Why we don't want to win the Minor Premiership

[Cat_flying_high]

Leave it for adelaide! The way the finals works, 1st position plays 4th position. WIth their last 3 games at home, the Docers have a decent chance of picking up fourth spot... in which case, we'd lose any advantage whatsoever of a home final.
Chances are, Sydney will finish third... I honestly feel much more confident playing the swans rather than freo at home!
So I hope adelaide find some form and start winning again... (until they play us in the finals of course!)

[Gunnar Longshanks]

What if St. Kilda finish 4th?

[Embers]

Couldnt care less who we play in all honesty. Bring them on.

Personally I think Saints will finish 4th.

[Embley]

Couldnt care less who we play in all honesty. Bring them on.
agreed

[bunsen burner]

Same. Bring them on. All teams pose a different threat:

- Swans don't suit our style of play
- Freo would negate our home advantage
- Saints have to big forwards plus possibly a Kosi who may stretch our defence on the day
- Same goes for Pies. All it takes is for Rocca and Taz to stand up and we have our hands full.

Whoever it is, I don't care. I think we can beat all of those teams at home anyway.

[Frizzo]

Aren't there 15 different threads on this already.

[luke ball14]

Same. Bring them on. All teams pose a different threat:

- Swans don't suit our style of play
- Freo would negate our home advantage
- Saints have to big forwards plus possibly a Kosi who may stretch our defence on the day
- Same goes for Pies. All it takes is for Rocca and Taz to stand up and we have our hands full.

Whoever it is, I don't care. I think we can beat all of those teams at home anyway.

I agree as a Saints fan I want A dselaide in the first week rather than you guys with Ball injured and Hayes out your midfield is way better than ours. But if we did play you at the G we would be a much better chance.

Anyway if Lynch continues to play well I reckon it's the Eagles year.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

- Swans don't suit our style of play
- Freo would negate our home advantage
- Saints have to big forwards plus possibly a Kosi who may stretch our defence on the day
- Same goes for Pies. All it takes is for Rocca and Taz to stand up and we have our hands full.
Bollocks.

Saints and Pies would be infinitely easier prospects at Subi than Fremantle or Sydney.

Don't pretend otherwise.

[Bestbird]

If we beat the Dockers in a couple of weeks we will more than likely play the Saints if we finish 1st.

having said that

I would prefer to play Melbourne based teams as they in general they struggle more coming to Perth but any team that makes the top 4 will be a tough

[Biggie]

Anyone except Freo.

Simple as that.

[isyoucallmeGranny]

Surely having 40,000 Eagles supporters to 2,000 Dockers would be some sort of advantage.

[Mrs. Cousins]

nope finals tickets open to both teams equally
will be almost impossible to get a ticket to a derby final, even for members

[Frizzo]

nope finals tickets open to both teams equally
will be almost impossible to get a ticket to a derby final, even for members

Rubbish. Eagles members will get a day or two of buying priority seats.

[Bestbird]

If it is a wCE v Freo final

I'm fairly certain tickets are allocated based on membership numbers, the same as last years Crows v Port game

[isyoucallmeGranny]

Yep i just checked on the AFL website and tickets will be allocated based on both clubs membership numbers with West Coast allocated slightly more due to their larger membership base. Will be hard to get tickets if this final eventuates but 3 weeks is a long time in football and imo Fremantle will be lucky to finish top four.

[Total_Juddshanks]

Logically, the us (1st) playing Freo (4th) scenario is a bit silly when you think about it.

-To win the minor premiership, we will almost certainly need to win our remaining three games, including the derby.

-For Freo to finish 4th (given that there are 3 teams on equal points competing for fourth, and Freo have a lot of ground to make up percentage-wise), they will almost certainly need to win at least one more game than St Kilda or Melbourne. Looking at the fixturing of these two teams, they are odds on to win at least 2/3 each. In other words, Fremantle will most probably need to win 3/3 to finish 4th.

In other words, to finish top we probably need to win the derby. For Freo to finish 4th, they probably need to win the derby. We can't both win it.

[Ruddiger]

There is a slight advantage in finishing first with an extra day break between H&A and QF and PF to GF, but that's not the reason to win the minor premiership. We'll aim to win all games this year purely for form and

I'd back us to win against anyone anywhere; I have a feeling the team is mentally much stronger and our second teir is really standing up.

[bunsen burner]

Bollocks.

Saints and Pies would be infinitely easier prospects at Subi than Fremantle or Sydney.

Don't pretend otherwise.Hey knob'ead, I didn't say they're all equal - I said they all have their cons.

Play Sydney in first week and beat them then we don't have to play them againunless we both make the GF. There's a hundred ways of looking at it, so who cares, bring em on I say.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Hey knob'ead, I didn't say they're all equal - I said they all have their cons.Are you in grade 5?

Looks to me like you were saying you don't have a preference.

Certain teams would be easier than others. Agreed?

Those are the ones most WC supporters would prefer to play.

Apparently, you don't see it that way.

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Logically, the us (1st) playing Freo (4th) scenario is a bit silly when you think about it.We could play Fremantle at Subi in a different scenario.

I think the most likely one is if we were to finish 2nd and lose in week 1 (to Sydney), with Freo finishing 6th and knocking some Victorian battler over at Subi.

That would see us play at Subi in week 2. Sudden death.

That would suck.

Equally, if Freo finish 4th and we finish 2nd, we could end up meeting Fremantle in a PF. It would be quite likely. We beat Sydney first-up. Freo lose to Adelaide. We get a week-off. Freo host the winner of 5 vs 8 and get over the line.

Suddenly we have a derby PF on our hands. Not ideal.

[bunsen burner]

Are you in grade 5?

Looks to me like you were saying you don't have a preference.

Certain teams would be easier than others. Agreed?

Those are the ones most WC supporters would prefer to play.

Apparently, you don't see it that way.
I don't have a preference. Doesn't mean I think they're all equal. Play the Swans first week and beat them then we don't have to play them again unless both teams make the granny. When you look at the big picture it's much of a muchness.

[Total_Juddshanks]

We could play Fremantle at Subi in a different scenario.

I think the most likely one is if we were to finish 2nd and lose in week 1 (to Sydney), with Freo finishing 6th and knocking some Victorian battler over at Subi.

That would see us play at Subi in week 2. Sudden death.

That would suck.

Equally, if Freo finish 4th and we finish 2nd, we could end up meeting Fremantle in a PF. It would be quite likely. We beat Sydney first-up. Freo lose to Adelaide. We get a week-off. Freo host the winner of 5 vs 8 and get over the line.

Suddenly we have a derby PF on our hands. Not ideal.

There is so many second and third week permutations and combinations that it's a bit silly to try and get into the 'if we win final x and they win final y' theorizing. No point worrying about what we can't control, which is the category all of the above falls into.

To a certain extent, we can control where we finish on the ladder. To have a chance of winning the minor premiership, we probably need to win the derby. If we win the derby, Fremantle are a lot less likely to encounter us in the first week of the finals.

Hence, we do want to win the minor premiership.

[Lach72]

We could play Fremantle at Subi in a different scenario.

I think the most likely one is if we were to finish 2nd and lose in week 1 (to Sydney), with Freo finishing 6th and knocking some Victorian battler over at Subi.

That would see us play at Subi in week 2. Sudden death.

That would suck.

Equally, if Freo finish 4th and we finish 2nd, we could end up meeting Fremantle in a PF. It would be quite likely. We beat Sydney first-up. Freo lose to Adelaide. We get a week-off. Freo host the winner of 5 vs 8 and get over the line.

Suddenly we have a derby PF on our hands. Not ideal.

Or we just keep winning...

[dugrene]

Leave it for adelaide! The way the finals works, 1st position plays 4th position. WIth their last 3 games at home, the Docers have a decent chance of picking up fourth spot... in which case, we'd lose any advantage whatsoever of a home final.
Chances are, Sydney will finish third... I honestly feel much more confident playing the swans rather than freo at home!
So I hope adelaide find some form and start winning again... (until they play us in the finals of course!)

Tank comming up. Get your money on Brissie. Paying $5 at the TAB.

[jorel6669]

What if the Eagles finished 2nd and beat 3rd placed Sydney, while Fremantle finished 4th and beat 1st placed Adelaide...? Both prelims would be hosted at Subi!!

[Mr Eagle]

If it is a wCE v Freo final

I'm fairly certain tickets are allocated based on membership numbers, the same as last years Crows v Port game
This is true in all cases, not just derbies. In the first round of ticket sales, members have to try to grab any seat they can within whatever proportion of the ground is allocated to the club.

From http://westcoasteagles.com.au/default.asp?pg=insidetheclub&spg=finalsinformation
How many tickets will be available?

The number of tickets available for on-sale is determined by the two clubs playing in the final and the number of adult reserved seated members each club has. For example, should the West Coast Eagles play the Western Bulldogs in a final, more tickets will be made available to West Coast Eagles members as that club has the higher number of adult reserved seated members.

[RogerMellie]

Surely having 40,000 Eagles supporters to 2,000 Dockers would be some sort of advantage.

We'd still be louder.

[West Coast 06]

We'd still be louder.

Loud AND purple, what a classy combination.

[Biggie]

We'd still be louder.

Ha thats a myth in itself.

Louder, I dont think so.

The only thing loud about Freo is those bloody drums and not to mention that friggin bell.