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OT; It's nearly cricket season.
The Poms are-a-coming ;)
Porthos
16 Aug 2006, 12:21
Awesome, a whole thread I can completely ignore!
One other thing, I have been told numerous times that what is said on these boards stays on these boards. About time the people that have said this to me live up to what they preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What no reply??? Im shocked :eek:
Seems to me that some people here really dont practice what they constantly preach.
Awesome, a whole thread I can completely ignore!
But you're still here.
wharfie_1870
16 Aug 2006, 13:37
Awesome, a whole thread I can completely ignore!
But you're still here.Exactly what I thought when I read his post. :eek:
blackdiamond
16 Aug 2006, 13:47
Im sure he is just qualifying absence but Im sure we will be able to get his posts in this thread one way or another. :D
Anyone watching the soccer tonight?
Paralowiepower
16 Aug 2006, 21:29
Anyone watching the soccer tonight?
Yes, Australia are rubbish. Stinks too much of Sydney fc.
Dodd looks like the most dangerous, Muscat is class at the back, Carney too greedy, Archie Thomson just not good enough. The rest blahhh
Santos L Helper
16 Aug 2006, 22:19
Getting this thread back on track, you bunch of miscreants.
Does this mean that ANY criticism of the club, or another poster (who probably desrves it because they're an idiot) means the post will simply be deleted?
I guess if it is in the context of the thread, and isn't the fued that pops up on a weekly basis (we are all aware of the parties), then it should remain. At least that's the way I'd like to see such things treated.
You don't pop up often enough to be subject to that, ya girl's rudey bit.
Paralowiepower
16 Aug 2006, 22:31
Yes, Australia are rubbish. Stinks too much of Sydney fc.
Dodd looks like the most dangerous, Muscat is class at the back, Carney too greedy, Archie Thomson just not good enough. The rest blahhh
Better second half, as from my first half review, Travis Dodd best, daylight
2nd.
Aussies win 2-0
I guess if it is in the context of the thread, and isn't the fued that pops up on a weekly basis (we are all aware of the parties), then it should remain. At least that's the way I'd like to see such things treated.
You don't pop up often enough to be subject to that, ya girl's rudey bit.
LOL - never heard that one before and I've been around a while.
Geez - it's bloody boring on the board without any infighting going on.
Better second half, as from my first half review, Travis Dodd best, daylight
2nd.
Aussies win 2-0
I only saw bits and pieces, but good result. Asia here we come. :thumbsu:
ps Even though I only saw bits and pieces you are right about Dodd, he stood out more often than not.
Macca19
16 Aug 2006, 22:45
Getting this thread back on track, you bunch of miscreants.
Does this mean that ANY criticism of the club, or another poster (who probably desrves it because they're an idiot) means the post will simply be deleted?
You can criticise whatever you like about the club, whenever you like and you can call whoever you want an idiot.
Its the off topic thread hijacking and the off topic back and forth arguing that will be moved here.
Paralowiepower
16 Aug 2006, 22:48
I hate all you Port supporters, you are all cocky bastards.....
Nahhhhh just kidding :D
Toots Hibbert
17 Aug 2006, 00:45
You can criticise whatever you like about the club, whenever you like and you can call whoever you want an idiot.
Its the off topic thread hijacking and the off topic back and forth arguing that will be moved here.
What will happen to posts that label people as Nazis, pigs, vultures, beer swillers on the terraces, panhandlers, arse lickers, blind chocophiles, etc.?
Will they get moved here so we can make an informed judgement when we hear complaints from the author of these comments that he is being unfairly treated?
blackdiamond
17 Aug 2006, 01:41
What will happen to posts that label people as Nazis, pigs, vultures, beer swillers on the terraces, panhandlers, arse lickers, blind chocophiles, etc.?
Will they get moved here so we can make an informed judgement when we hear complaints from the author of these comments that he is being unfairly treated?
That is basically the deal, at times posts like these may stay in the intended thread but this is all dependent on the context of the post.
If we believe the post has been written with no other intention than to inflame a situation, it is at this time we will move the post and other posts related to the situation into this thread.
If greater action is required the post would either be edited or deleted (deleted posts can still be seen by mods).
As per normal the moderation team will decide as a group on all penalties handed out to posters.
Note - posters wasting moderators time will be penalised.
What will happen to posts that label people as Nazis, pigs, vultures, beer swillers on the terraces, panhandlers, arse lickers, blind chocophiles, etc.?
Will they get moved here so we can make an informed judgement when we hear complaints from the author of these comments that he is being unfairly treated?
Just dont tell someone that they need a reality check. Apparently that is abuse! WTF.
Seems to me that if anyone constitutes that as abuse, they really do need a reality check.:D
A side from the continual dribble being posted in this thread I thought that I would post a positive comment. Some of the esteemed and intelligent members of this board took out the first prize in the Port Club quiz last night. We also won fifty bucks for the jackpot round. I knew that watching Dawson's Creek would come in handy at some stage;) :D Thanks to Powerstuff, Little Miss Powerstuff, BD and Benny for a fantastic night full of footy talk and political conversation. It is nice to spend time with such quality individuals:D :D
blackdiamond
17 Aug 2006, 13:49
Just dont tell someone that they need a reality check. Apparently that is abuse! WTF.
Seems to me that if anyone constitutes that as abuse, they really do need a reality check.:D
Did I miss something?
Where exactly did she accuse you of personal abuse?
Did I miss something?
Where exactly did she accuse you of personal abuse?
No names were mentioned in my post so someone must have a guilty conscience then.
Paralowiepower
17 Aug 2006, 14:40
Can everyone give it a rest, common even McLeod and Edwards have sorted out their dirty laundry................maybe :D
blackdiamond
17 Aug 2006, 14:46
No names were mentioned in my post so someone must have a guilty conscience then.
So the below post has no relation to what you are talking about? :rolleyes:
To both you and GBear. One game proves nothing. For once the team came out and played some decent football not this constant ******** game that he has been instructing them to play.
We will go back and play the chippy chippy crap game again again and be thrashed by our cross town rivals and the young guys will have the confidence knocked out of them again.
You both need a huge reality check. Choco is not the coach to take us to a premiership.
Just dont tell someone that they need a reality check. Apparently that is abuse! WTF.
Seems to me that if anyone constitutes that as abuse, they really do need a reality check.:D
Originally posted by BlackDiamond
Did I miss something?
Where exactly did she accuse you of personal abuse?
Now, you tell me where abouts in the above post that I mentioned anyones name. Like I said, someone must have a guilty conscience to assume that the above was directed at them.
All I said was, dont tell someone to get a reality check as its classed as abuse.
Now why dont you all just grow up, move on and get a life.
End of ****ing story
blackdiamond
17 Aug 2006, 17:37
Im still miffed as to how you arrived at 'apparently', something must have brought that on.
Paralowiepower
17 Aug 2006, 17:42
Do you guys know how to use the PM feature?
If not I will be doing a training seminar tomorrow night at 7.15pm :D
Frank Spencer Clone
17 Aug 2006, 19:17
What will happen to posts that label people as Nazis, pigs, vultures, beer swillers on the terraces, panhandlers, arse lickers, blind chocophiles, etc.?
Will they get moved here so we can make an informed judgement when we hear complaints from the author of these comments that he is being unfairly treated?
You really are one sad individual.
Worse than my ex wife for carrying baggage and using history as weapons.
But if you want to look at things this way, I can play your game too.
What about the comments labelling that particular poster as ' supercoach ' in a snide and derisive manner, the comments suggesting that their football experience over 12 years / 97 games at a fairly high standard is not worth dogsht, their practical coaching experience equates to bugger all, and just their general modus operandi of attacking anything that person posts with the intent of pyssing them off?
Two sides to every coin, chuckey boots, and you'd find - as I have tried to tell so many brain dead amoebas on this forum, with no success - if you don't kick the dog, it won't growl.
Simple really. Perhaps too simple.
And for a simple lesson in the use of language, in context:
Nazis - Used to describe people behaving in an over officious, heavy handed fashion, usually in an indiscriminate manner or towards an individual in an unnecessary and unwarranted manner.
Pigs: See above
Vultures: Used to describe those lowlifes who hang around ( or in Internet parlance, ' troll ' ), on the lookout for a particular species to attack venomously
Beer swillers on the terraces: Knowalls who think they know more than the professionals, or those with professional training and practical experience, whose knowledge knows no bounds and who have all the answers despite having none of the training or experience.
Panhandlers: Those scabs who survive on enforced charity from others, disrespectful lifeforms who continually bite the hand ( and spit in the face ) of those who feed them.
Arse lickers: Sycophants who haven't got the balls to speak out against the majority view for fear of being howled down
Blind Chocophiles: See above to a degree, also those who have a robotic sense of blind loyalty and cannot se the faults of the person upon whom this loyalty is bestowed, even when these faults are glaringly obvious.
Hope that is now cleared up.
Frank Spencer Clone
17 Aug 2006, 19:21
Geez - it's bloody boring on the board without any infighting going on.
Then why not start some? You're pretty good at that.
Then why not start some? You're pretty good at that.
I've never started a fight with anyone on this board - my offerings have been restricted to general PAFC talk and responses to biased, subjective, vindictive and unwarranted criticism of the PAFC and its servants - whoever it may come from.
As a PAFC supporter for a long time I will not let that happen without defending the club as best as I can. It deserves better than that for the unsurpassed performances over the past 130 years.
I've never started a fight with anyone on this board - my offerings have been restricted to general PAFC talk and responses to biased, subjective, vindictive and unwarranted criticism of the PAFC and its servants - whoever it may come from.
So this comment made by you regarding FSC prediction of the Power V Bulldogs game was merely restricted to general chit chat without trying to get a bite?? Like hell. You knew that would spark off a war.
Originally posted by Natman
I predicted this type of comment
So this comment made by you regarding FSC prediction of the Power V Bulldogs game was merely restricted to general chit chat without trying to get a bite?? Like hell. You knew that would spark off a war.
Originally posted by Natman
The prediction was in accordance with my definition - biased and subjective.
Frank Spencer Clone
17 Aug 2006, 22:15
[QUOTE]I've never started a fight with anyone on this board
Whose chain do you think you're yanking????
- my offerings have been restricted to general PAFC talk and responses to biased, subjective, vindictive and unwarranted criticism of the PAFC and its servants - whoever it may come from.
Biased? Bollocks.
Subjective? No. Simply, an opinion based on what is being presented out there on the arena.
Vindictive? Oh, please, give me a break!
Unwarranted? I don't think so. Unless you're the sort of bloke who accepts mediocrity.
You don't lose games against laughing stock clubs like North Melbourne, Footscray, Fremantle and Richmond on your own deck - especially by cricket score margins - without giving a yelp.
You can't continually select underachieving players and players who are years past their use by date ( or duds to begin with ) without expecting to cop a bake.
You can't expect not to be criticised if you can't cope with opposition strangling tactics or devise a game plan to counteract them.
And if you continually play players out of position, fail to utilise their strengths, and obliterate their confidence as a result, you deserve to be castigated - vehemently.
As a PAFC supporter for a long time I will not let that happen without defending the club as best as I can. It deserves better than that for the unsurpassed performances over the past 130 years.
I've been a supporter probably longer than you but I'm not so naive or thick in the head as to not realise that the club is at a critical stage in it's AFL life.
It has had a great list for 5 - 6 years but grossly underachieved due to poor coaching and list management and that list is quickly dismantling.
We now have a list predominantly full of very talented kids. Unless these kids are manged and mentored properly, we could see these players fail to realise their potential and those unsurpassed performances will remain stuff of history that you'll dust off to show your grand kids.
People in official positions at the club - coaches etc - deserve to be criticised when they underperform. It's how things get better.
And let's not forget, at Port Adelaide, we have always prided ourselves on the ethos ' the club is bigger than the individual ' .
Nepotism, in the form of being Fos Williams' son - does not override this, AFAIAC.
Isn't this new thread great? :thumbsu:
You can walk past, have a sticky beak and then GTFOOH quickly if they're at it again. :p
Isn't this new thread great? :thumbsu:
You can walk past, have a sticky beak and then GTFOOH quickly if they're at it again. :p
I had a good laugh at that - sarcasm at its best.:p
Frank Spencer Clone
17 Aug 2006, 22:50
The prediction was in accordance with my definition - biased and subjective.
How in the ******* name of Nebuchadnezzar was this prediction biased and subjective??
I expected us to get thrashed based on the fact we were playing a side who thrashed us at home early in the year - a side whose side is full of pacy runners, a side who have an adaptive game plan, and several other areas of assessment.
Also the fact our form leading up to this game didn't inspire much confidence had a lot to do with my prognostication of a huge loss.
So we won. Yay team!
I was wrong. Been wrong before.
he one thing I wasn't wrong about was the comments I made at the table when we won, which a few people here can attest to - the comments that this forum will be hell again now with all the WIlliams arse lickers coming out of the woodwork....and sure enough........
Toots Hibbert
18 Aug 2006, 00:33
...What about the comments labelling that particular poster as ' supercoach ' in a snide and derisive manner, the comments suggesting that their football experience over 12 years / 97 games at a fairly high standard is not worth dogsht, their practical coaching experience equates to bugger all, and just their general modus operandi of attacking anything that person posts with the intent of pyssing them off?
Two points:-
Let's see the quote where I said that. I'll guarantee you won't be able to produce it because I never use that sort of language. I'll also make a prediction that you will either a) ignore this post or b) say you can't be bothered digging up the post.
Secondly who in their right mind calls moderators nazis, pigs and vultures and then expects there won't be consequences. You trowel on the abuse to all and sundry then act surprised when you get a response you don't like.
BTW I admit if I used the term supercoach then I hate myself for it. Compared to that, "brain dead amoeba" and "arse licker" are mere fleabites. :rolleyes:
Sandola
18 Aug 2006, 11:17
Isn't this new thread great? :thumbsu:
You can walk past, have a sticky beak and then GTFOOH quickly if they're at it again. :p
Yes! I like it a lot. It's like a Robert Altman movie. D'you think everything will make sense in the end?
Frank Spencer Clone
18 Aug 2006, 11:32
Two points:-
Let's see the quote where I said that. I'll guarantee you won't be able to produce it because I never use that sort of language. I'll also make a prediction that you will either a) ignore this post or b) say you can't be bothered digging up the post.
Secondly who in their right mind calls moderators nazis, pigs and vultures and then expects there won't be consequences. You trowel on the abuse to all and sundry then act surprised when you get a response you don't like.
BTW I admit if I used the term supercoach then I hate myself for it. Compared to that, "brain dead amoeba" and "arse licker" are mere fleabites. :rolleyes:
I should really ignore this post as I have just received another threatening PM telling me to ' shut up or else ' and will probably find myself excommunicated again for having the temerity to have an opinion and daring to respond - but I'm not going to.
You are right about the other bit though. I can't be bothered trawling through pages and pages of twaddle to find the remarks above, and besides, it's not like the comments above were actually said verbatim - it's the inference that was drawn from your venomous attacks put into my own words.
You did, however, use the word ' supercoach ' in the manner alleged. And you know it.
Now let's look at some home truths - if you're up for it.
I do not trowel on the abuse. That is nonsense. I am a verbose person who uses very descriptive language to describe what I mean.
Anyone on this forum who has worn a bake from me has thoroughly deserved it, and it has usually been delivered after numerous instances of personal abuse and insulting, derogatory comment that I have let go through to the keeper, has become too wearing to ignore any longer. The sort of garbage posted a while back by Northbhoy and Angry Dragon for an example. That has been going on since 2003, and those posters are still around.
People get the rough end of my tongue if they come looking for it, or they do something to warrant it. I don't go looking for flame wars and I never instigate them. I've got better things to do with my time. For the 10'000th time, if you don't kick the dog, it won't growl. Amazing how no one ever seems to practice this very simple bit of logic!
WRT calling moderators ' Nazis ' - if they behave like Nazis then I reserve the right to call a spade a spade.
The practice of threatening PMs, bans, global ignore, etc etc issued against a person who, in the main, is responding to and defending themselves against vicious and puerile personal attacks as opposed to dealing appropriately with the posters dishing out the abuse that elicits the response, to me is fully deserving of the term. If the offending material / posters were removed and the response still came, or was launched against the other person( s ) unprovoked, then there would be justification for their action. As it stands, the action is totally unjustified. The term ' Nazi ' is used colloquially to describe a person whose behaviour is ' unjustifiably heavyhanded, overly officious and abusive of the power bestowed in them ' . Given this, and their continual harassment of particular individuals for no reason ( coupled with incredible leniency to others ) , I think the term is more than appropriate.
I don't believe I have ever referred to them as ' pigs ' - I reserve that term strictly for members of the police force - and the term ' vultures ' I use exclusively to describe people like yourself, Angry Dragon, Northbhoy etc - people who swoop on any opportunity to have a whack at an individual purely for the purpose of eliciting a hostile response. Not moderators.
Brain dead amoebas and the other term , well, if you're going to come on here and attempt to debunk well thought out and logical reasoning about why our club is bleeding and failing on the oval with a mindless, robotic Hare Krishnaesque chant such as ' Choco is Messiah ' , or by living in the past glories of 2004 and hanging on grimly to them rather than looking forward - AFAIAC those terms are also well deserved.
The afterglow only lasts so long before the cold light of day kicks in. As any Don Juan will tell you - you either back it up, or hit once and move on.
A one hit wonder doesn't hang around to suffer the possibility of losing face.
Paralowiepower
18 Aug 2006, 11:44
D'you think everything will make sense in the end?
You mean it ends? Thank god for that, I thought this was going to be the never ending story.
MrMeaner
18 Aug 2006, 12:35
You mean it ends? Thank god for that, I thought this was going to be the never ending story.
But even the Neverending Story ended! Who can I sue for that?
Hodges 153!
18 Aug 2006, 13:02
Well, Aaron Keating is going for AFC and DR Brian Sando, for The Neverending Injury, so maybe try them.
:)
Yes! I like it a lot. It's like a Robert Altman movie. D'you think everything will make sense in the end?
To me it reminds me more of the tale ............................
"The knights who say nee". :p
Choco reckons that we got screwed last night. My guessing is that McGuire followed through with his promise to Buckley and dealt out some deep penetration for the win. :D
If you are easily offended. Dont check out the following website.
Nah. Better not. Will get booted for it :D
Im still miffed as to how you arrived at 'apparently', something must have brought that on.
Yes, I know that GBear is *****ed off with me for telling her to get a reality check and with my posting on the boards towards certain posters.
Now, If telling someone in particular GBear to get a reality check is classed as abuse, then yes I guess must be guilty of posting abusive comments on the boards.
There have been other things said on the boards that are far worse than that comment so why make a big deal out of it??
This post is done as requested by BlackDiamond.
Frank Spencer Clone
19 Aug 2006, 23:04
Rubbish. We have a large number of young players who are all playing with confidence, guts, skill and even flair. If it were one or two, it may be a coincidence. If they played like that only every few weeks or so, maybe coincidence. But to have so many playing so well reasonably consistently says a lot for the coaching.
To have Pearce come on so quickly, to have Shaun Burgoyne develop the way he is, to have Chaplin develop into a rock in the backlines, you must attribute some of this development to good coaching. FFS, the players themselves have been saying as much in interviews.
If young players became great automatically, there wouldn't be much need to coach them, would there.
Exactly. Noone has said skill has been 'transplanted'. But by crikey it's being well honed down at Alberton at the moment.
I do apologise. I momentarily forgot I know nothing about the personalities and makeups of footballers.
Thank you so much for setting me straight by imparting your professional expertise.
I do apologise. I momentarily forgot I know nothing about the personalities and makeups of footballers.
Thank you so much for setting me straight by imparting your professional expertise.
For frigs sake ease it up Frank.
No just because you probably played at a higher level than most or even all around here doesn't mean others are not allowed to disagree with you. It also does not mean your opinion is always the right one. Ease up and let everyone on here including yourself enjoy the place.
Frank Spencer Clone
19 Aug 2006, 23:26
For frigs sake ease it up Frank.
No just because you probably played at a higher level than most or even all around here doesn't mean others are not allowed to disagree with you. It also does not mean your opinion is always the right one. Ease up and let everyone on here including yourself enjoy the place.
Bit touchy, aren't you?
Pinepower
19 Aug 2006, 23:27
For frigs sake ease it up Frank.
No just because you probably played at a higher level than most or even all around here doesn't mean others are not allowed to disagree with you. It also does not mean your opinion is always the right one. Ease up and let everyone on here including yourself enjoy the place.
Thanks for saying that so well.
Bit touchy, aren't you?
Yeah, when we have mods (and good ones at that) talking about quitting the place then yes it has gone a bit far.
As paralowiepower said, unfortunately this place is becoming like the Crows board used to be and a few of us used to pick on them about.
Time to let bygones be bygones and get back on track wouldn't you agree?
Porthos
19 Aug 2006, 23:40
I remember back in the day when people used to just not respond to people posting silly over-the-top comments.
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 00:09
Yeah, when we have mods (and good ones at that) talking about quitting the place then yes it has gone a bit far.
As paralowiepower said, unfortunately this place is becoming like the Crows board used to be and a few of us used to pick on them about.
Time to let bygones be bygones and get back on track wouldn't you agree?
I agree that DK talking about quitting is pretty bad. The fact is though, I can unsderstand where he's coming from for different reasons.
I'm sick to the back teeth of childish, puerile nonsense here myself, but moreover I'm even more sick to the back teeth of being hassled by DK's compatriots while the backside wipings who stir up the trouble - and we all know who they are - get away scot free.
I don't think it's time to let bygones be bygones. What I think is it's time to get rid of the garbage, or , if that's not going to be done, for the turkeys with the petty little personal issues to get themselves a life and start showing a modicum of respect.
I agree that DK talking about quitting is pretty bad. The fact is though, I can unsderstand where he's coming from for different reasons.
I'm sick to the back teeth of childish, puerile nonsense here myself, but moreover I'm even more sick to the back teeth of being hassled by DK's compatriots while the backside wipings who stir up the trouble - and we all know who they are - get away scot free.
I don't think it's time to let bygones be bygones. What I think is it's time to get rid of the garbage, or , if that's not going to be done, for the turkeys with the petty little personal issues to get themselves a life and start showing a modicum of respect.
Mate, keep that up and you'll have the place here to yourself.
I've noticed others like Toots have stopped and it's time for yourself to do the same.
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 00:13
[QUOTE=*PAF] keep that up:confused:
[QUOTE=*PAF] keep that up:confused:
Posts like your last one.
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 00:20
[QUOTE=Frank Spencer Clone]
Posts like your last one.
Why? Just telling it as it is.
I don't think you quite get it, bud.
* One poster here has been responsible for the vast majority of the issues - but still remains free to post her garbage and personal attacks.
* Trolls from other boards must think this board is a hoot. They can come here and abuse a poster on this board with some of the most vile, disgusting material and escape a penalty, but if the recipient of that abuse even THINKS about responding - they get harassed.
* Some people here have had their glass jaw sensitivities or inadequacy complexes rattled a little hard and can't let it go - and take every little opportunity to square the ledger in their own pathetic minds.
I think that's more than sufficient explanation as to why my mood is less than charitable.
[QUOTE=*PAF]
Why? Just telling it as it is.
I don't think you quite get it, bud.
Perhaps more than you think, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter does it. What does is that this board is getting "polluted" a bit too much by a select few because of personal issues and it now has gone on for a very long time.
* One poster here has been responsible for the vast majority of the issues - but still remains free to post her garbage and personal attacks.
* Trolls from other boards must think this board is a hoot. They can come here and abuse a poster on this board with some of the most vile, disgusting material and escape a penalty, but if the recipient of that abuse even THINKS about responding - they get harassed.
* Some people here have had their glass jaw sensitivities or inadequacy complexes rattled a little hard and can't let it go - and take every little opportunity to square the ledger in their own pathetic minds.
I think that's more than sufficient explanation as to why my mood is less than charitable.
I'll reply to the edited bit.
As DK has said in the past, every poster gets a couple of chances except for extreme cases and rightfully so. We had a bit of a vote on this (more than once) and I was one of the main instigators of it as I am against bannings except for personal abuse and extreme cases.
If the crap happens on other boards there is not much our mods can do and neither they should.
If the abuse happens on this board I have no doubt our mods will deal with it appropriately regardless of who it is.
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 00:45
If the abuse happens on this board I have no doubt our mods will deal with it appropriately regardless of who it is.
I bet you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy too.
Leave it alone. Let's not continue this discussion any further. It's not you that will get the nasty PM.
I bet you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy too.
...
Good one. :rolleyes:
...
Leave it alone. ...
Yeah, time to do so as I am now doing the same thing most of us have had enough of. :o
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 13:44
I'm not one for having a go on here about oposition supporters, but I can confirm that did happen, and a couple did get kicked out.
We had plenty of police around behind the goals down the Southern End because some of the Collingwood fans were carrying on like clowns.
The group that Shane & Sharon are referring to was about half a dozen late teens - early 20s bogan types who looked like they were zonked out on smack or something similar from the start of the game.
They were creating a nuisance right from the start using abusive and crude language and an incident was inevitable once the air horn that one of them had was confiscated.
Seriously though, do we expect any better from Victorians? It's a bit silly to expect uncivilised Neanderthals to behave like sophisticated, civilised people just because they happen to be in a civilised environment and not in their own cesspool.
Use the Ignore poster function people. If you do not continually reply to those posters who continually spout dribble and pick on other posters perhaps the guilty individuals may get tired of writing crap and give it a rest. Here's hoping that is the case:rolleyes:
Seriously though, do we expect any better from Victorians? It's a bit silly to expect uncivilised Neanderthals to behave like sophisticated, civilised people just because they happen to be in a civilised environment and not in their own cesspool.Do you seriously believe that?
Use the Ignore poster function people. If you do not continually reply to those posters who continually spout dribble and pick on other posters perhaps the guilty individuals may get tired of writing crap and give it a rest. Here's hoping that is the case:rolleyes:
If you dont like what is posted on this thread, dont bother coming and checking it out. Quite simple isnt it!:D
Troy Wingate
20 Aug 2006, 21:40
I bet you still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy too.
Leave it alone. Let's not continue this discussion any further. It's not you that will get the nasty PM.
Dont forget the Easter Bunny. :p
He brings lots of caramello choc filled eggs to all good boys who love caramel. :D
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 22:10
If you dont like what is posted on this thread, dont bother coming and checking it out. Quite simple isnt it!:D
Sharon. Get a reality check.
Frank Spencer Clone
20 Aug 2006, 22:26
Do you seriously believe that?
After living there for 20 odd years, 'fraid so. Sadly, that small group referred to by Sharon and Shane were by and large archetypal examples of the troglodytes that exist east of Bordertown
Toots Hibbert
20 Aug 2006, 22:26
Hah at last my bookcase is finished. Has taken me about 6 weeks in between a heap of other stuff. To reward myself I want to show it off here.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8190/bookcase00433zm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4901/bookcase01033ff3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4834/bookcase01133cw3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5610/bookcase01333jo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I can now see why you have been relatively quiet on the board - looks like a good piece - how much do you charge!!!!
Paralowiepower
21 Aug 2006, 00:26
Nice firewood toots :p
SouthSwans
21 Aug 2006, 00:28
That's sensational!
After living there for 20 odd years, 'fraid so. Sadly, that small group referred to by Sharon and Shane were by and large archetypal examples of the troglodytes that exist east of BordertownYeah, well Frankly, that's an enormous load of frog shyte. Having several friends and acquaintainces from Melbourne, I guarantee that what you are saying is a ridiculous assertion. Let's run with it for a moment though. Is it the being born in Melbourne which makes one a tosser, or the living there? If one is born in Melbourne but immediately commences living in SA, do they become more palatable? Perhaps even human?
You know, you really bring on most of the pain and reprisals you experience with the crap you trot out, for example this most recent load.
twosheds
21 Aug 2006, 01:44
Yeah, well Frankly, that's an enormous load of frog shyte. Having several friends and acquaintainces from Melbourne, I guarantee that what you are saying is a ridiculous assertion. Let's run with it for a moment though. Is it the being born in Melbourne which makes one a tosser, or the living there? If one is born in Melbourne but immediately commences living in SA, do they become more palatable? Perhaps even human?
You know, you really bring on most of the pain and reprisals you experience with the crap you trot out, for example this most recent load.
Agree entirely, most people that spew out interstate vitriol are the lowest common denominator ( on both sides ) that ****ers like Sam Newman cater for, sheep who think they are some exclusive intelligentsia with original thoughts. It would be so much better to have purely football discussion here but John Lennon wrote some words that seem to fit that hope.
Use the Ignore poster function people. If you do not continually reply to those posters who continually spout dribble and pick on other posters perhaps the guilty individuals may get tired of writing crap and give it a rest. Here's hoping that is the case:rolleyes:
Writing crap hey??? Get a reality check. Oh sorry, I forget. That is deemed as abuse. :rolleyes:
Agree entirely, most people that spew out interstate vitriol are the lowest common denominator ( on both sides ) that ****ers like Sam Newman cater for, sheep who think they are some exclusive intelligentsia with original thoughts. It would be so much better to have purely football discussion here but John Lennon wrote some words that seem to fit that hope.
The discussion was regarding footy and the way the collingwood bogans carried on Friday night. Someone just made an observation from what he knows first hand of Victorians, they are all the same. If others wish to carry on and argue the point, well they are the ones to blame in this and every other case.
Its clear that no matter what is posted by a few of us it is searched by other individuals and hijacked everytime. If you dont want the debate to continue leave it alone now. Simple isnt it!!!!!!!!!!
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 10:02
Yeah, well Frankly, that's an enormous load of frog shyte. Having several friends and acquaintainces from Melbourne, I guarantee that what you are saying is a ridiculous assertion. Let's run with it for a moment though. Is it the being born in Melbourne which makes one a tosser, or the living there? If one is born in Melbourne but immediately commences living in SA, do they become more palatable? Perhaps even human?
What about the thousands of South Australians who, like me, were born and grew up in SA but choose to live in Melbourne? Obviously, we'd all have to be morons and turncoats for daring to do that.
Melbournites have nothing on centrals supporters for feralness. ;)
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 10:07
Someone just made an observation from what he knows first hand of Victorians, they are all the same. If others wish to carry on and argue the point, well they are the ones to blame in this and every other case.
No, FSC made an extremely bigotted comment expecting a bite. And, true to form, you come trotting in to defend the indefensible.
Stop for a minute and think about how you would feel if someone like NorthBhoy or someone similar made a comment about all South Australian's being troglodytes or suggesting that loutish behaviour is all that can be expected from South Australians. I'm sure that you would be up in arms. Rightly so too.
Melbournites have nothing on centrals supporters for feralness. ;)
Something tells me that I must agree with that comment after hearing the way they carry on at the Central V Port games.
Central District supporters = Collingwood supporters in feralness :p Well, nearly anyway.
No, FSC made an extremely bigotted comment expecting a bite. And, true to form, you come trotting in to defend the indefensible.
Stop for a minute and think about how you would feel if someone like NorthBhoy or someone similar made a comment about all South Australian's being troglodytes or suggesting that loutish behaviour is all that can be expected from South Australians. I'm sure that you would be up in arms. Rightly so too.
Defend FSC! Oh thats right. Im allowed to defend anyone on here but FSC. He originally came out to reply to a post of mine to say yes, the collingwood supporters up the southern end of the stadium were all smacked off their faces and causing hassles.
Northbhoy are all just trolls that come on here and sprout personal insulting comments and deserve everything that they get.
Im going to end up banned from this board for my comments and to be honest, I dont really care as I have been asked by a poster via pm how can I defend FSC. Simple, would you defend your friends?? Yes, of course you will. I have also been told that I have bought everything upon myself for replying and sticking up for FSC. Now that comment came from a mod who wants to know where the Shaz63 of 5 months ago went. Well guess what, Im here and unless Im booted from the board, will continue to hang around and state my views and defend who I damn well please regardless what the mod and other regular poster on here think or say.
Now, if you wish to continue this debate I suggest that you ask the mods to transfer all these posts to the "just not footy" thread before Im accused again for hijacking threads.
pffft!
As much as I hate Victorian football, Victoria and Melbourne as actual places are absolutely fantastic.
I have lived in the CBD of Melbourne for 2 years and you could not ask for a better place to live. Lots of sport, lots of great places to eat and go out. Lots of errr... talent. Rural Victoria is also amazingly beautiful. The snow fields, the Grampians. It’s all good, and may I say its much better than Sydney.
The people are also, on the whole, great. Love their sport and I have had no problems with any Vic over anything except their contempt for SA footy. Even then most of them respect the history and admire Port Adelaide for what they have achieved.
To taint all Vics with the same brush is typical of the inferiority some complex Adelaidians have. Vics are arright, just they follow pooey footy teams.
wharfie_1870
21 Aug 2006, 16:15
The discussion was regarding footy and the way the collingwood bogans carried on Friday night. Someone just made an observation from what he knows first hand of Victorians, they are all the same.........So FSC knows ALL Victorians and can verify that they are all the same :rolleyes:
Unfortunately all clubs have their bogan supporters but I have first hand knowledge of many non-bogan Victorians.
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 16:21
So FSC knows ALL Victorians and can verify that they are all the same :rolleyes:
Now, leave him alone. I, for one, was walking around in ignorance, thinking that there are many good Victorians. I now look around me with the right degree of suspicion and thus avoid harm from the troglodytes.
Unfortunately all clubs have their bogan supporters but I have first hand knowledge of many non-bogan Victorians.
What? Are you saying that that approach is wrong now? I'm confused. How can all these people on the interweb have conflicting opinions? Now I don't know who to believe. I might just stick to my well thumbed copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that's never led me astray in the past...now, I wonder what it says about North supporters?
wharfie_1870
21 Aug 2006, 16:37
...To taint all Vics with the same brush is typical of the inferiority complex Adelaidians have.........Errrrrr, shouldn't that be "some Adelaidians have" :confused:
wharfie_1870
21 Aug 2006, 16:39
.....I might just stick to my well thumbed copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that's never led me astray in the past...I'm not familiar with the Zionist protocols. Is that similar to TCP/IP ;)
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 16:42
I'm not familiar with the Zionist protocols. Is that similar to TCP/IP ;)
Yep. Exactly like that.
Toots Hibbert
21 Aug 2006, 16:58
Protocols of Zion pffft. The real classic is "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" by Garry Allen.
http://reactor-core.org/pics/nonedare-199ae4c4.jpg
TABLE OF CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
1. DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH FACTS
2. SOCIALISM — ROYAL ROAD TO POWER FOR THE SUPER-RICH
3. THE MONEY MANIPULATORS
4. BANKROLLING THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION
5. ESTABLISHING THE ESTABLISHMENT
6. THE ROCKEFELLERS AND THE REDS
7. PRESSURE FROM ABOVE AND PRESSURE FROM BELOW
8. YOU ARE THE ANSWER
FOURTEEN SIGNPOSTS TO SLAVERY
WHAT WILL YOU DO?
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS NOMINATED AND APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT NIXON TO GOVERNMENT POSTS
OPERATION COUNTERATTACK
"NDCC is an admirable job of amassing information to prove that communism is socialism and socialism (a plot to enslave the world) is not a movement of the downtrodden but a scheme supported and directed by the wealthiest of people.
If enough Americans read and act upon NDCC, they really can save the Republic from the conspirators — whose plans for the destruction of our country are galloping fast toward completion."
Dan Smoot — Former Assistant to J. Edgar Hoover
What_the
21 Aug 2006, 16:59
Nice bookshelf, Toots!!!!!!
Toots Hibbert
21 Aug 2006, 17:03
Thankyou, thankyou. Very gratifying.
I'm definitely in my wife's good books now. The problem is that there is a statute of limitations on brownie points and the time will be at hand when the question will arise "What have you done for me lately?" :p
wharfie_1870
21 Aug 2006, 17:03
.....
1. DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH FACTS
.....So many zealots stand by that creed :eek:
Errrrrr, shouldn't that be "some Adelaidians have" :confused:
hmmm, what is the word im looking for?
I think "Touché" will fit nicely. :thumbsu:
Sandola
21 Aug 2006, 17:16
Thankyou, thankyou. Very gratifying.
I'm definitely in my wife's good books now. The problem is that there is a statute of limitations on brownie points and the time will be at hand when the question will arise "What have you done for me lately?" :p
No, you've set yourself up for life with that one: every time you need credit, just buy her another book!
Brilliant bookcase, Toots. I'm going to be showing those photos to the family craftsman.
Sandola
21 Aug 2006, 17:19
Yep. Exactly like that.
Except with carrier pigeons. Or maybe Model T's.
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 17:23
My father does all that kind of stuff for me. I think that I am a disappointment to him as I have no patience for manual labour. Also, I'm no good to him when it comes to wills etc. He's wondering why he supported me through uni since I can give him nothing of benefit back to him.
wharfie_1870
21 Aug 2006, 17:24
hmmm, what is the word im looking for?
I think "Touché" will fit nicely. :thumbsu:Cheers ;)
Paralowiepower
21 Aug 2006, 17:42
I was just kidding about the firewood toots :o
Toots Hibbert
21 Aug 2006, 17:50
I was just kidding about the firewood toots :o
Never complain, never explain! :D
I took it as a compliment btw.
Frank Spencer Clone
21 Aug 2006, 22:40
pffft!
[QUOTE] Victoria and Melbourne as actual places are absolutely fantastic.
Mate, yuo'd have to be yanking your chain, surely?
It's a filthy, overpopulated, dilapidated, backward, traffic congested cesspit.
Everything is overpriced, overrated and overhyped.
It's full of crime, gangs and drugs. The streets are ankle deep in litter.
Yep, frigging lovely place.
I have lived in the CBD of Melbourne for 2 years and you could not ask for a better place to live. Lots of sport, lots of great places to eat and go out. Lots of errr... talent. Rural Victoria is also amazingly beautiful. The snow fields, the Grampians. It’s all good, and may I say its much better than Sydney.
Got absolutely jack you know what on the southern and coastal suburbs of Adelaide, the Hills, Victor Harbour etc etc.
Talent? You're kidding. Make sure you employ the ' lump feel test ' before making any serious moves.
Great places to eat and go out? Yeh. Lygon Street. Go cop a bullet in the middle of a gangland war while feeding your face on spag bol. Just brilliant.
Or get your brains bashed in by a bouncer at a St Kilda pub. Sounds like a great night out.
Ever been to places like Werribee, Dandenong and Frankston, mate? If not, go take a look. They make Elizabeth or Christie Downs look like Norwood or Burnside.
The people are also, on the whole, great.
This is the juncure where your argument really falls over. The people are the most arrogant, unfriendly, uncivilised, and just plain ignorant morons on the planet. I'd be surprised if there was a single brain cell between the lot of them.
Their utter contempt for anything or anyone from any other part of the country shows the level of intellect these simians operate on.
And you think my attitude shows an inferiority complex? I don't think so.
Just sick of having the ' everything's bigger and better in Texas ' attitude rammed down my throat.
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 22:56
FSC, I'm sorry that you had experiences cauing you to have such a jaundiced view of a group of people. I'm even sorrier (if that's a word) that you have to live with such prejudices. However, please refrain from trying to ram them down our throats. It is offensive and does not accord with the experiences of the great majority of us.
For someone who rails against abuse, you seem to like dishing it out.(nb I know that you will make the distinction between 'personal abuse' and abusing a group of people but I really don't care about that. Abuse is abuse.)
Frank Spencer Clone
21 Aug 2006, 23:02
Yeah, well Frankly, that's an enormous load of frog shyte. Having several friends and acquaintainces from Melbourne, I guarantee that what you are saying is a ridiculous assertion. Let's run with it for a moment though. Is it the being born in Melbourne which makes one a tosser, or the living there? If one is born in Melbourne but immediately commences living in SA, do they become more palatable? Perhaps even human?
You know, you really bring on most of the pain and reprisals you experience with the crap you trot out, for example this most recent load.
Yes, you know, you're right.
A simple message of support to a young fella experiencing some emotional issues with a relationship back in 2003, using my own experiences as a result, was all it took to bring upon myself 3 years worth of vile, disgusting abuse.
How could I be so foolish not to realise this???
Seriously, you are full of crap.
So you don't like my style. No drama. No reason for you to make personal comments though.
And that is where the problems start.
Frank Spencer Clone
21 Aug 2006, 23:12
[QUOTE]please refrain from trying to ram them down our throats.
No one is ramming anything down anyone's throat. It's called having an opinion. Yes, even I'm entitled to one of thise. Whether it tallies with the majority or not.
For someone who rails against abuse, you seem to like dishing it out
Having an opinion is abuse? That's funnier than what Sharon was told that telling someone to get a reality check is abuse.
MrMeaner
21 Aug 2006, 23:23
Let's see:
I'll give you arrogant, unfriendly and ignorant. Your experiences may have led you to form those 'opinions'.
'Troglodytes, morons, uncivilised': these are getting beyond the pale. They are unsupportable and if you were to use any of these to describe an inividual they would rightly be seen as abuse. The fact that you are using it against a group of people instead of an individual does not render it any less abusive.
In the end, you have your prejudices. For some reason you think that it is a great lark to trot them out whenever the issue of the another club's supporters' behaviour comes up or when 'defending' SA. The rest of us just see you for your ignorance and find it tiresome.
Anyway, I'm sick of giving you oxygen.