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Yes, you know, you're right.
A simple message of support to a young fella experiencing some emotional issues with a relationship back in 2003, using my own experiences as a result, was all it took to bring upon myself 3 years worth of vile, disgusting abuse.
How could I be so foolish not to realise this???Put simply, you took on the role of victim. If you had simply ignored what those idiots had said to you initially, it would have died down. Surely you know that.
So you don't like my style. No drama. No reason for you to make personal comments though.
And that is where the problems start.Yeah, right. So it's ok for you to demean an ENTIRE STATE AND ITS INHABITANTS in one fell swoop, including friends and family of mine (which I could understandbly take personally - a word you are so enamoured of trotting out), and yet when I point out that the fault may be primarily in the way you conduct yourself, that's getting personal.
I did not refer to your person at all. I didn't call you names or say you are such-and-such a type of person. I criticized the way you conduct yourself on here. If you can't handle that, or think it's personal, tough ****.
I, like Mr. Meaner am rapidly tiring of this infantile discussion.
Frank Spencer Clone
22 Aug 2006, 00:24
[QUOTE]'Troglodytes, morons, uncivilised': these are getting beyond the pale.Disagree. Not unless things have changed a hell of a lot since I left.
In the end, you have your prejudices. For some reason you think that it is a great lark to trot them out whenever the issue of the another club's supporters' behaviour comes up or when 'defending' SA. The rest of us just see you for your ignorance and find it tiresome.
You see, this is where a lot of these things go skewiff.
You are quite happy to take a piece of me for this sort of thing, but the myriad imbeciles on this forum who post derogatory rubbish about SA, and Adelaide, and those of us who live here, well, you quite happily seem to let that go without comment. And they let fly with their crud much, much more frequently than I do. And that kind of gets my nose out of joint.
If my views are ignorance, are not theirs equally so? What makes my views different?
The fact is I have lived in both places. And thus am qualified to comment on the strengths and weaknesses of each. And the weaknesses are massively slewed on your side, I'm afraid.
I'm sick to the back teeth of shtstirrers who have never lived here slagging off about the place or referring to the people as some sort of lower life form.
Simply put - if Victoria is so bloody great, why did I - and many other SA expats - come back to SA?? Why do so many Pricktorians scoot off to Queensland every year?
One final thing, if you're tired of giving oxygen, then don't keep stirring the pot. Simple.
Frank Spencer Clone
22 Aug 2006, 00:37
]Put simply, you took on the role of victim. If you had simply ignored what those idiots had said to you initially, it would have died down. Surely you know that.
Victim, my arse.
I quite rightly challenged the low lifes who flung the abuse and questioned their ethics. I also did what the mods here keep repeatedly suggesting should be done in these circumstances and reported the abuse. No action was taken - which basically gave the scum who perpetrated the incidents carte blanche to continue their abuse ( which the cheeky bastards are now coming onto the PA board to do )- and that has now seen me engender a hostile persona ready to rip anyone's head off at a minute's notice. You reap what you sow, I believe is the appropriate saying.
I'd like to see how you would react if someone posted vile, disgusting, derogatory comments directed at you if you were in the same position. Easy for you to point the finger when you're not on the receiving end.
And on this line - it makes me feel ill that you actually seem to think by your comments above that these tactics are quite acceptable. Tells me a lot about you as a person.
Yeah, right. So it's ok for you to demean an ENTIRE STATE AND ITS INHABITANTS in one fell swoop, including friends and family of mine (which I could understandbly take personally - a word you are so enamoured of trotting out), and yet when I point out that the fault may be primarily in the way you conduct yourself, that's getting personal.
I did not refer to your person at all. I didn't call you names or say you are such-and-such a type of person. I criticized the way you conduct yourself on here. If you can't handle that, or think it's personal, tough ****.
Guess what. I have family in Melbourne myself. My ex wife of 16 years is there. So are some of my best friends.
So what?
And regarding me taking things personally, you don't know me personally so you have no right to judge. End of story.
I, like Mr. Meaner am rapidly tiring of this infantile discussion.Ha. I tired of it years ago. Perhaps if such as you didn't perpetrate it, and carry it on.......??????
reported the abuse. No action was takenNot good.
I'd like to see how you would react if someone posted vile, disgusting, derogatory comments directed at you if you were in the same position. Easy for you to point the finger when you're not on the receiving end.I've been on the receiving end from time to time in my life - guess what...I'm still breathing.
And on this line - it makes me feel ill that you actually seem to think by your comments above that these tactics are quite acceptable. Tells me a lot about you as a person.So sorry to make you feel ill. Better go have a lie down, Sarah Bernhardt. You assume I think that kind of abuse is ok. I don't. But being of an age where I recognise that the world can be a cruel place, but you must help yourself, I would say that while they are wrong, yes, you do yourself no favours by constantly biting back. That is the only reason they continue. Surely a fellow of your age and experience must realise that?
Guess what. I have family in Melbourne myself. My ex wife of 16 years is there. So are some of my best friends. So what?So what? So you think it's fine to demean your family, your friends, your ex-wife, with ridiculous sweeping statments? That's your business, I suppose, but the trouble is that you also demean OUR family and friends at the same time.
So don't.
Frank Spencer Clone
22 Aug 2006, 02:02
[QUOTE]I've been on the receiving end from time to time in my life - guess what...I'm still breathing.
I understand the point you're trying to make. But I think the point you're missing is that in a situation like that, when you're grappling with self doubts and a lot of other emotional issues - and internet forums represent a fair chunk of your contact with the outside world as you struggle to readjust to life - the last thing you need is a group of low life cretins rubbing your face in the muck.
Such people really need to take a good hard look at themselves.
:So sorry to make you feel ill. Better go have a lie down, Sarah Bernhardt. :confused:
You assume I think that kind of abuse is ok. I don't. You must, otherwise you'd have the same views on it as I do. And you certainly wouldn't have made the flippant response to Northbhoy's post that you did a few days back.
you do yourself no favours by constantly biting back. That is the only reason they continue. No. They continue because the admin / mods are too weak to remove them. All it takes is an example to be made of one. The rest will soon get the message.
So what? So you think it's fine to demean your family, your friends, your ex-wife, with ridiculous sweeping statments? That's your business, I suppose, but the trouble is that you also demean OUR family and friends at the same time.
So don't.It would be a lot easier if one didn't keep running across archetypal examples. Sadly though, it's pretty much always the case.
MrMeaner
22 Aug 2006, 10:03
You see, this is where a lot of these things go skewiff.
You are quite happy to take a piece of me for this sort of thing, but the myriad imbeciles on this forum who post derogatory rubbish about SA, and Adelaide, and those of us who live here, well, you quite happily seem to let that go without comment. And they let fly with their crud much, much more frequently than I do. And that kind of gets my nose out of joint.
If my views are ignorance, are not theirs equally so? What makes my views different?
At the risk of further 'stirring the pot' I feel I need to answer this. The simple answer is that they very rarely post that kind of stuff on this board. I don't have the time or inclination to trawl the various boards for anti-SA comments. When I have seen them, they are usually those in which you have been engaged. My impression of those is that all parties were doing their best to look stupidly ignorant and thus my input was not necessary.
Basically, the difference is that I and many others come to this board to read and contribute to threads concerning the club in some way (whether that be because they are about the club or just because we are interested in the views of fellow PAFC supporters on other topics). The problem arises when thread after thread gets hijacked with the kind of crap that provoked my OP on this.
Put simply, you took on the role of victim. If you had simply ignored what those idiots had said to you initially, it would have died down. Surely you know that.
Yeah, right. So it's ok for you to demean an ENTIRE STATE AND ITS INHABITANTS in one fell swoop, including friends and family of mine (which I could understandbly take personally - a word you are so enamoured of trotting out), and yet when I point out that the fault may be primarily in the way you conduct yourself, that's getting personal.
I did not refer to your person at all. I didn't call you names or say you are such-and-such a type of person. I criticized the way you conduct yourself on here. If you can't handle that, or think it's personal, tough ****.
I, like Mr. Meaner am rapidly tiring of this infantile discussion.
Mr Meaner and Pred - It's a never ending battle - Totally bewildered and exasperated I gave up a while ago - for now
Mr Meaner and Pred - It's a never ending battle - Totally bewildered and exasperated I gave up a while ago - for now
Please don't as it helps to pass away my idle time. :thumbsu: :)
Please don't as it helps to pass away my idle time. :thumbsu: :)
You won't be idle - there is enough entertainment on your own board with knobs like Dirty Stupid Retard and jmorg - those two post absolute tripe so it should make for good reading for you.:D
Mr Meaner and Pred - It's a never ending battle - Totally bewildered and exasperated I gave up a while ago - for now
The solution is quite simple Natman. If you dont like what anyone posts, dont read it.
There, how easy was that.
The solution is quite simple Natman. If you dont like what anyone posts, dont read it.
There, how easy was that.
Until I read a post how will I know if I don't like it.:confused:
Thanks for the advice - but I will read what I like and comment as I wish.
Until I read a post how will I know if I don't like it.:confused:
Thanks for the advice - but I will read what I like and comment as I wish.
Well then, dont take offense when the poster has a go back at you. You complain about the way that certain individuals post but you continually read and reply.
I will change what I originally posted. If you dont like the way some posters put their case across and you find them offensive, dont read the posts.
Frank Spencer Clone
22 Aug 2006, 23:24
At the risk of further 'stirring the pot' I feel I need to answer this. The simple answer is that they very rarely post that kind of stuff on this board. I don't have the time or inclination to trawl the various boards for anti-SA comments. When I have seen them, they are usually those in which you have been engaged. My impression of those is that all parties were doing their best to look stupidly ignorant and thus my input was not necessary.
Basically, the difference is that I and many others come to this board to read and contribute to threads concerning the club in some way (whether that be because they are about the club or just because we are interested in the views of fellow PAFC supporters on other topics). The problem arises when thread after thread gets hijacked with the kind of crap that provoked my OP on this.
Alright. I give up. I'm the bad guy.
Happy now?
Just in response to the argument regarding Victoria.
I have spoken to a few people that have lived there. (these people dont know each other and have not been told what the other has said).
On questioning them on the state, they have all told me that they are glad to of used their brains and got the hell out of there.
They have all told me that its dirty and well, im not going to repeat the exact words that were used to describe the place, but I think you get my drift.
None will ever live there again and one lived there for over 20 years. Saw the light of day and moved to SA. Said it was the best decision that he has ever made. ( and no, its not FSC either in case you were wondering.)
So, you can bag me for this I really dont care. Im only going on what I have been told by numerous individuals that have lived there sometime in their life.
Toots Hibbert
23 Aug 2006, 09:23
Shaz do you realise that blind loyalty is making you sound like a hillbilly who's never travelled further from home than the next village? :cool:
RogerRabbit69
23 Aug 2006, 09:50
Im only going on what I have been told by numerous individuals that have lived there sometime in their life.
There are plenty of factors that need to be taken into consideration.
Where did they live? What kind of job did they have?
I lived in Melbourne for a couple of years. I've also lived in New York, Stockholm and London and travelled a reasonable amount. I still reckon Melbourne's one of the best cities in the world. If it wasn't for family considerations, I'd move back there in a heartbeat.
But I can understand how some wouldn't enjoy it if they had **** jobs and lived in **** suburbs. But I'd reckon that would apply wherever you live.
If you want to live somewhere peaceful and relatively safe, then Adelaide's a great city. But they also roll up the pavements at 5.30pm every night.
wharfie_1870
23 Aug 2006, 10:50
Shaz, as Toots and Rog have indicated, you are doing yourself no favours continuing this line of argument. All your last post does is highlight that you have friends who are just as xenophobic as you are sounding.
No regular poster on this board would doubt that you are a true and passionate Port Adelaide supporter. Please don't damage your credibility with this small minded Vic bashing.
Shaz, as Toots and Rog have indicated, you are doing yourself no favours continuing this line of argument. All your last post does is highlight that you have friends who are just as xenophobic as you are sounding.
No regular poster on this board would doubt that you are a true and passionate Port Adelaide supporter. Please don't damage your credibility with this small minded Vic bashing.
Im just stating what I have been told about a place that some seem to nothing but praise and others have nothing but comtempt for.
Damaging my credibility?? Why I have already been advise that I did that awhile back by associating with a particular poster of BF.
No, Im not here to stir trouble. Everyone feels the need to blast people that have nothing negative to say about the State that lies East of the border. Yes, I have been there and no, I personally didnt like it. Have been there quite a few times and agreed with my husband. The only decent in Vic, is the road out.
RogerRabbit69
23 Aug 2006, 11:26
I personally didnt like it.
And I personally loved it.
There's no right or wrong answer here.
MrMeaner
23 Aug 2006, 11:26
You just don't get it do you? I (and others taking issue with comments posted here) don't care whether you, FSC or anyone else likes Victoria. My issue comes from the next step, which is moving from expressing a dislike and making bigoted comments about the people who populate the state.
Personally, from the short periods of time I've spent there, I've concluded that I don't think much of Sydney. I think that the city lacks character. However, I would hope that I would never prejudge someone from Sydney based on my view. It's a similar type of prejudgment that I take issue with in this case.
Sandola
23 Aug 2006, 11:31
Im just stating what I have been told about a place that some seem to nothing but praise and others have nothing but comtempt for.
Damaging my credibility?? Why I have already been advise that I did that awhile back by associating with a particular poster of BF.
No, Im not here to stir trouble. Everyone feels the need to blast people that have nothing negative to say about the State that lies East of the border. Yes, I have been there and no, I personally didnt like it. Have been there quite a few times and agreed with my husband. The only decent in Vic, is the road out.
Shaz, if you ever have to come over here for any reason (our next GF, for example), please let me know. I'd love to show you around for a couple of days, let you see the really wonderful parks, beaches, funny little off-the-beaten path shops of all sorts, diverse and interesting nightlife (well, I'd have to send you off to that, not being a nightlife sort of person), maybe even the zoos and a couple of museums, if you're into that sort of thing -- all sorts of possibilities, depending on what you're interested in. Seriously.
Toots Hibbert
23 Aug 2006, 11:39
Here's a few things I like about Victoria:-
The Grampians
The MCG
The trams
Lygon Street
The museums
The South Bank
Friendly people
The snowfields
The Snowy River
Jo Jo Zep and the Falcons
The Black Sorrows
LABJACD
Hunters and Collectors...
Shaz, if you ever have to come over here for any reason (our next GF, for example), please let me know. I'd love to show you around for a couple of days, let you see the really wonderful parks, beaches, funny little off-the-beaten path shops of all sorts, diverse and interesting nightlife (well, I'd have to send you off to that, not being a nightlife sort of person), maybe even the zoos and a couple of museums, if you're into that sort of thing -- all sorts of possibilities, depending on what you're interested in. Seriously.
Cheers Sandola. I am interested in parks and things like that. Not a nightlife person. (past all that with age, will leave that sort of thing to my son).
Im just going on what I remember of the place when visiting quite often with the ex husband and by what Ive been told.
People have their own opinions on each state. Yes, I would sit up and defend WA in an instant. Lived there for a number of years and yes, there are a lot of places that are not the nicest and would stay well clear of them. WA has been bagged out to me and even though Im born and bred South Aussie, I would pack up and move back to WA in a heartbeat. Family and very good friends are what are keeping me here.
Here's a few things I like about Victoria:-
The Grampians
The MCG
The trams
Lygon Street
The museums
The South Bank
Friendly people
The snowfields
The Snowy River
Jo Jo Zep and the Falcons
The Black Sorrows
LABJACD
Hunters and Collectors...
I'm no expert when it comes to Melbourne, but the restaurant scene is something different to anything I have experienced in other places I have been to in Australia.
Absolutely loved it. :thumbsu:
Here's a few things I like about Victoria:-
The Grampians
The MCG
The trams
Lygon Street
The museums
The South Bank
Friendly people
The snowfields
The Snowy River
Jo Jo Zep and the Falcons
The Black Sorrows
LABJACD
Hunters and Collectors...
Great list Toots. I thought I would add a few more things I love about Melbourne...
Chapel Street
WestField Southland - a shopping centre that has the Nepean Highway running through it :D (well it goes underneath it)
My wonderful friends and family who live there
Georgios - great place to eat
The Stamford Suites beautiful place to stay
Healesville wildlife sanctuary
Puffing Billy
Multiple lane highways
I could go on...
Melbourne is indeed a fanatstic place and I love visiting at least 3 to4 times a year. Looking forward to moving there in 2008:)
Paralowiepower
23 Aug 2006, 12:34
Don't forget the Sports bars in the Casino, and Docklands stadium.
Great place to visit, wouldn't live there though.
Paralowiepower
23 Aug 2006, 12:39
I forgot the Aquarium on the Yarra, if you have kids, this place is a must.
No regular poster on this board would doubt that you are a true and passionate Port Adelaide supporter.
Yes, I am a very passionate Port supporter and have been since I can remember. The family all have their favourite teams and two siblings and myself love the black and white. Others tried to drag us away and support the Central Bulldogs. Didnt work even though I had family connections within the club and still do. :p
When I moved to WA the first thing I did was ask who the black and white footy team were in the WAFL. So Swan Districts became the team that I supported there but always kept up with how Port were going.
Will admit to backing the Eagles when they entered the AFL but said that as soon as Port is granted an AFL licence, my head will follow my heart. Sure enough, the year that I moved back, I was estastic to sit back and watch my beloved Power run onto the ground for the first time.
Just a pity that one of my siblings that also is a passionate Port Maggies supporter follows that the Eddie McGuire team.:mad:
The other, well she is watching the Power from a great height. The team can never have too many guardian angels.
Sandola
23 Aug 2006, 12:50
It's not possible to hijack this thread. That's the beauty of it.
It's not possible to hijack this thread. That's the beauty of it.
Yeah, finally someone has come out and said that this thread cant be hijacked. Thanks Sandola.
Lets hope that others finally agree with you.
Toots Hibbert
23 Aug 2006, 13:08
I forgot the Aquarium on the Yarra, if you have kids, this place is a must.
Yep went there with the family the day after the Port flag. Did you go on that ride thingy they've got? I had to shut my eyes. :o
Yeah, finally someone has come out and said that this thread cant be hijacked. Thanks Sandola.
Lets hope that others finally agree with you.I think you may have misunderstood Sandola's point. He/she? is only saying that this thread is the place where all the usually off-topic stuff now goes. So of course it can't be derailed - no-brainer.
I think you may have misunderstood Sandola's point. He/she? is only saying that this thread is the place where all the usually off-topic stuff now goes. So of course it can't be derailed - no-brainer.
Pred, dont want or need to get into a dispute with you but there have been others that have accused me and others for hijacking this thread.
Yes, I know its about anything not related to footy or where all the posts that start going off topic end up eventually, but as I said, we have been accused of hijacking this particular thread.
Now to throw this thread right into another direction. This Friday is daffodil day. The day that is set aside each year as a major fundraiser for the Cancer Council.
Please everyone, go and buy some daffodils or other merchandise specifically made for this fundraiser. All monies raised to go a good charity to hopefully find a cure for cancer.
The cancer council do a lot of good things for sufferers of cancer such as the cancer motel where people from the country can stay whilst in Adelaide for treatment or just a regular appointment at the hospital. The other things they do are endless.
As you would probably gather from me posting about this day, it is a disease that has affected me greatly and I try to help out with this every year where I can.
So please everyone, dig deep and purchase some beautiful yellow daffodils to help out a very worthy cause.
Thanks
Shaz
Frank Spencer Clone
24 Aug 2006, 00:02
[QUOTE]There are plenty of factors that need to be taken into consideration.
Where did they live? What kind of job did they have?
I lived in Melbourne for a couple of years. I've also lived in New York, Stockholm and London and travelled a reasonable amount. I still reckon Melbourne's one of the best cities in the world. If it wasn't for family considerations, I'd move back there in a heartbeat.
But I can understand how some wouldn't enjoy it if they had **** jobs and lived in **** suburbs. But I'd reckon that would apply wherever you live.
I actually think RR that your post is quite well balanced and for this reason I wish to add my own 2c worth.
There are some decent parts to Victoria. My football involvement in coaching actually allowed me to regularly spend time in arguably one of the best areas of the State, as I coached in the Bellarine Peninsula league and places like Queenscliff, Port Arlington, St Leonards, Ocean Grove and Torquay do have a lot of appeal.
My ex wife and I also ate out regularly in Williamstown which is a very pleasant suburb, not unlike Glenelg in a way, and quite often made the drive to Mordialloc to a favourite restaurant there. The long drive back along Beach Road by the water was a pleasant way to spend a cruisey evening, especially after a decent meal and couple of wines.
I also enjoyed looking at the buildings and architecture in the South Melbourne - Albert Park area and still miss the weekly gathering at Bells Hotel with ' the boys ' watching Port thump all comers during our golden years.
The big problem with Melbourne is the ' satellite cities ' - outer suburbs like our Elizabeth. Watchers of the Footy Show would be familiar with Frankston, one such example. Dandenong, Werribee, Melton et al really are not the most salubrious places.
If you want to live somewhere peaceful and relatively safe, then Adelaide's a great city. But they also roll up the pavements at 5.30pm every night
Not true. There's plenty of night life in Adelaide if you know where to look!! But life is about more than night life and sport, and it is for this reason I believe Adelaide offers a far better lifestyle.
RogerRabbit69
24 Aug 2006, 00:12
FSC, don't get me wrong - I really like Adelaide as a city. We can afford a nice house in a nice area. For the same money in Melbourne, we'd have a pretty average house in a so-so suburb.
I guess it depends what you're after (which I suppose is dependent to some degree on the stage of life you're at).
I found Melbourne vibrant, exciting and lots of fun. But I can see how others would consider it too busy, too expensive and noisy.
We were fortunate when we lived in Melbourne that we had a pretty good income - and therefore could enjoy a very good lifestyle. We did pretty much what we wanted, so my view of Melbourne is, admittedly, through somewhat rose-coloured glasses.
People's views of cities and countries are so subjective. You know what they say about "one man's rubbish" ......
Frank Spencer Clone
24 Aug 2006, 00:29
FSC, don't get me wrong - I really like Adelaide as a city. We can afford a nice house in a nice area. For the same money in Melbourne, we'd have a pretty average house in a so-so suburb.
I guess it depends what you're after (which I suppose is dependent to some degree on the stage of life you're at).
I found Melbourne vibrant, exciting and lots of fun. But I can see how others would consider it too busy, too expensive and noisy.
We were fortunate when we lived in Melbourne that we had a pretty good income - and therefore could enjoy a very good lifestyle. We did pretty much what we wanted, so my view of Melbourne is, admittedly, through somewhat rose-coloured glasses.
People's views of cities and countries are so subjective. You know what they say about "one man's rubbish" ......
I can agree with all of this. I live in one of Adelaide's most gorgeous, picturesque coastal suburbs and I absolutely love it here, being close to the sea, having sea views, and so close to all the best spots like Glenelg, Henley, Victor Harbour etc.
That said I grew up in Fullarton and liked the foothills too, and the closeness to town.
When I lived in Melbourne myself and my ex wife were lucky enough to get into the property market before the boom and had a small mortgage. We both had very good incomes and enjoyed a comfortable lifestyle, albeit in a pretty ratty area.
You've tapped into my thoughts pretty well. Melbourne for me is way too busy, noisy and crowded.
The area of Adelaide I live in now suits my lifestyle to a tee. Peace and quiet, views, plenty of open spaces and convenience.
At my stage of life, where I just want to relax and watch the world go by - this environment is ideal.
wharfie_1870
24 Aug 2006, 12:00
It's not possible to hijack this thread. That's the beauty of it.http://www.sengokudaimyo.com/webpix/godKillsKittens-hijack.jpg
Paralowiepower
24 Aug 2006, 12:09
I hate cats :D
wharfie_1870
24 Aug 2006, 12:13
I hate cats :DMe too :thumbsu:
I hate cats :D
Remind me never to invite you and the family around for a bbq then Shane. Troy and I have one each and or course his is black and white.
What other colour would you expect Troy to own. :p
Macca19
24 Aug 2006, 19:51
Now to throw this thread right into another direction. This Friday is daffodil day. The day that is set aside each year as a major fundraiser for the Cancer Council.
Please everyone, go and buy some daffodils or other merchandise specifically made for this fundraiser. All monies raised to go a good charity to hopefully find a cure for cancer.
The cancer council do a lot of good things for sufferers of cancer such as the cancer motel where people from the country can stay whilst in Adelaide for treatment or just a regular appointment at the hospital. The other things they do are endless.
As you would probably gather from me posting about this day, it is a disease that has affected me greatly and I try to help out with this every year where I can.
So please everyone, dig deep and purchase some beautiful yellow daffodils to help out a very worthy cause.
Thanks
Shaz
I agree. Go and buy some Daffs everyone. Especially from Woolworths.
Originally posted by Frank Spencer Clone
PS: Shaz 63
All lights look green and all boxes ticked bar one - the South American geography question remains unanswered
Arrow gives the big tick. All looks good.
More research required Steve. :p
http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/images/ibc_map_brazil_en.gif
Sandola
27 Aug 2006, 13:48
Just on that, in the Sunday Age the crossword wants a maritime region in Western South America (just realised I can't write "S.A.") that has long been disputed by Chile and Peru. Two 5-letter words. My otherwise reasonable atlas doesn't help.
Frank Spencer Clone
27 Aug 2006, 20:09
Originally posted by Frank Spencer Clone
More research required Steve. :p
http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/images/ibc_map_brazil_en.gif
Sharon,Sharon, Sharon.........
You lose many points for that. You should know me well enough to know that I'm not fond of overseas travel.
I much prefer to stay within the confines of my own country and travel domestically.
To wit, I think I would much prefer Tasmania......
Obviously you didn't invest any time staying up watching the recent soccer World Cup tournament.
I'm usually not one for making blatantly racist statements - but Brazilians are absolutely grotesquely ugly........
wharfie_1870
30 Aug 2006, 11:37
This must be the Bermuda Triangle of threads. Posts appear to disappear without trace, or are they simply moved to a more "off topic" thread. :confused:
Good work mods :thumbsu: ;)
Can the mod that deleted posts from here explain why and tell us exactly what is allowed on this thread PLEASE.
Nothing abusive was posted and if it was taken the wrong way by a few over sensitive members......................
I will just have to post my favourite three words of the month................
REALITY CHECK REQUIRED :D
Can the mod that deleted posts from here explain why and tell us exactly what is allowed on this thread PLEASE.
Nothing abusive was posted and if it was taken the wrong way by a few over sensitive members......................
...
If I can jump to the mods defence as this has popped up in the past.
As we have young kids that can and do come onto these forums, mods have to ... well moderate with that in mind. Personal opinion would not necessarily have come into it.
As you said it was not abusive or way over the top etc, at least not what I had seen, but thems the rules and that is their job as moderators.
Sandola
30 Aug 2006, 13:14
Can the mod that deleted posts from here explain why and tell us exactly what is allowed on this thread PLEASE.
Nothing abusive was posted and if it was taken the wrong way by a few over sensitive members......................
Heh. If I were you, I'd be grateful to the mods in this case! Why not just post what you want to, and then don't worry about it. It was hardly deathless prose that needs to be archived for posterity.
Oh, dear. Whatever.
If I can jump to the mods defence as this has popped up in the past.
As we have young kids that can and do come onto these forums, mods have to ... well moderate with that in mind. Personal opinion would not necessarily have come into it.
As you said it was not abusive or way over the top etc, at least not what I had seen, but thems the rules and that is their job as moderators.
PAF. I know that the mods are here for a reason but they gave us this thread to post anything not concerning footy.
Yes. I know that young kids do log on and read the boards, but still, there is worse on the limbo and general discussion boards then what was posted here.
My guess is that it was taken the wrong way by an over sensitive person and I have done a check to see who logged on last night that would take offensive to some of the posts..............
Presto, that person has just waved their magical powers over a mod and the posts have been deleted.
Like I said.............. those persons really do need to get a reality check if they think that we have nothing better to do then come on here and make fun of them or even discuss them..........
PAF. I know that the mods are here for a reason but they gave us this thread to post anything not concerning footy.
Yes. I know that young kids do log on and read the boards, but still, there is worse on the limbo and general discussion boards then what was posted here.
My guess is that it was taken the wrong way by an over sensitive person and I have done a check to see who logged on last night that would take offensive to some of the posts..............
Presto, that person has just waved their magical powers over a mod and the posts have been deleted.
Like I said.............. those persons really do need to get a reality check if they think that we have nothing better to do then come on here and make fun of them or even discuss them..........
Perhaps someone did complain, I have no idea from that side of things but I thought they just tidied it up a bit just like in the past.
Then again pehaps there are more posts missing than I noticed.
Perhaps someone did complain, I have no idea from that side of things but I thought they just tidied it up a bit just like in the past.
Then again pehaps there are more posts missing than I noticed.
My guess its the same person that considers that term "reality check" verbal abuse.
I was informed by DK that fun banter is permitted on here.
So where do they draw the line and why arent we permitted to see when all three port mods are on line?
I know that they are also members of BF but they should have their profile set so that we know which ones are on line at any given time so that we can pm them if required.
blackdiamond
30 Aug 2006, 16:05
My guess its the same person that considers that term "reality check" verbal abuse.
I suggest you have a reality check yourself as what you have 'guessed' would be incorrect and no its was not me who deleted the posts before you carry on.
As *PAF has stated, this is also a place for young kids so we would like to make this place as user friendly as possible.
As Im sure you are aware there are other means for communicating this kind of information, email, PM or MSN for a start.
I suggest you have a reality check yourself as what you have 'guessed' would be incorrect and no its was not me who deleted the posts before you carry on.
As *PAF has stated, this is also a place for young kids so we would like to make this place as user friendly as possible.
As Im sure you are aware there are other means for communicating this kind of information, email, PM or MSN for a start.
Ok, so you tell me who and why deleted posts that were neither abusive or obscene.
Seems to me that if you had assumed that I was referring to you and another poster here complaining about the content of the posts, then looks as if someone has a guilty conscience then.
RoosterLad
30 Aug 2006, 16:20
BigFooty is Rated G.
As Im sure you are aware there are other means for communicating this kind of information, email, PM or MSN for a start.
Oh so now we cant come on to Big Footy and post what could be seen as personal communications?? What a joke this is.
About time that you realised this place is for any member to post and that this particular thread was set up for us to discuss issues that are not concerning footy. So now all of a sudden, fun discussions are now banned as well.
Really, what the hell is happening with this website????
BigFooty is Rated G.
There was nothing R Rated posted. Nothing wrong with a bit of fun banter between posters.
As I have said in a previous post here, there is worse posted on the general and limbo boards.
There was nothing R Rated posted. Nothing wrong with a bit of fun banter between posters. Sorry shaz. I am as liberal as they come but one or two of the posts crossed the line.
And no, I didn’t report any of them, although I did think they were a bit gross, I’m not the reporting posts type - cep once when someone posted a picture that went waaaay over mine and everyones limits.
As I have said in a previous post here, there is worse posted on the general and limbo boards.Yeah, but our mods don’t control those boards, they control these ones and IMO they acted appropriately. Its all about jursitiction.
fair dinkum. who would want to be a mod.
damned if you do, damned if you dont
fair dinkum. who would want to be a mod.
damned if you do, damned if you dont
Morell, I have no prob with DK or Macca19. I due have a problem with BD though.
He never practices what he preaches.
Morell, I have no prob with DK or Macca19. I due have a problem with BD though.
He never practices what he preaches.That may well be true, I don’t know nor care.
I am only commenting on this situation, and if BD removed the inappropriate posts (although he stated he didn’t), than IMO he acted dutifully.
Ewww, I just realised it sounds like I’m sucking up to the mods, I feel ... so ... dirty ... An act of dissention should correct the imbalance.
HEY BD! YOU SUCK! :eek:
That may well be true, I don’t know nor care.
I am only commenting on this situation, and if BD removed the inappropriate posts (although he stated he didn’t), than IMO he acted dutifully.
Ewww, I just realised it sounds like I’m sucking up to the mods, I feel ... so ... dirty ... An act of dissention should correct the imbalance.
HEY BD! YOU SUCK! :eek:
Yeah, never crawl, give it to them scumbag mods morrey, after all they do get paid for being mods.
When was the last time any of them paid for an Avatar hey hey?. :D :D
Yeah, never crawl, give it to them scumbag mods morrey, after all they do get paid for being mods.
Scumbags. :D :D
:eek: You're joking!
hahahah! that is hilarious. How much? Is there ever any "Mod Pay Disputes". Does Macca get more than DK?
c’mon Mods, spill the beans, how much are you on! I want to see a fully transparent board report with breakdowns on earnings. What’s the mod budget? Can we hire and fire them? So many questions!
And here I was just thinking they were just founding members or something. BigFooty just keeps on surprising.
Toots Hibbert
30 Aug 2006, 19:18
Well done mods on cleaning up this thread and removing the juvenile nonsense. :thumbsu:
In case anyone is wondering I did not report any posts although I think anyone who may have would have been correct to do so. I think the two individuals involved may have been acting out some feelings of defiance.
I posted my disapproval in a quiet way by suggesting that sort of nonsense is better discussed over the phone. I would have been happy to see those posts stay by way of taking responsibility.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:20
Can the mod that deleted posts from here explain why and tell us exactly what is allowed on this thread PLEASE.
Nothing abusive was posted and if it was taken the wrong way by a few over sensitive members......................
I will just have to post my favourite three words of the month................
REALITY CHECK REQUIRED :D
Yes you do seem to require a REALITY CHECK given this is a site for all ages..............
I deleted the posts due to their suggestive nature as we have quite a few kids that read/post on the site.
Sure there was no abuse in any of the posts but the suggestive nature of the posts is something we have no interest in seeing on Bigfooty Team boards which are primarily for discussing the game and our clubs.
As a reminder you may want to re-read through the Forum Rules you agreed to abide by when you joined this site and can be found at
Forum Rules (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_forum_rules)
There are plenty of other websites around that will suit banter like that including The Limbo Club (http://www.limboclub.com/forum/index.php) which is much more appropriate for the type of posts that have been removed.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:26
PAF. I know that the mods are here for a reason but they gave us this thread to post anything not concerning footy.
As long as it still conforms to the site rules..........your posts clearly didn't.
Yes. I know that young kids do log on and read the boards, but still, there is worse on the limbo and general discussion boards then what was posted here.
As we've said over and over again we do not have any control over other boards and we control this board based on how the majority of Port posters here want it run.
My guess is that it was taken the wrong way by an over sensitive person and I have done a check to see who logged on last night that would take offensive to some of the posts..............
No it was clearly suggestive and we are not interested in seeing posts like that on this board.
Presto, that person has just waved their magical powers over a mod and the posts have been deleted.
Still making this garbage up as it's not based on any facts at all.
Like I said.............. those persons really do need to get a reality check if they think that we have nothing better to do then come on here and make fun of them or even discuss them..........
Perhaps you should look at what this site is primarily for and re-read the rules and conditions you agreed when you joined the site..........we're not interested in wasting our time on garbage like this.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:30
My guess its the same person that considers that term "reality check" verbal abuse.
Again your guesses are wrong..........
I was informed by DK that fun banter is permitted on here.
Fun banter is as long as it abides by the site rules......suggestive adult talk isn't and has been removed.
So where do they draw the line and why arent we permitted to see when all three port mods are on line?
Common sense normally covers it on top of the rules you agreed to abide by when you joined Bigfooty.
I know that they are also members of BF but they should have their profile set so that we know which ones are on line at any given time so that we can pm them if required.
Wrong again as we can't have our profile set to off line so we always are showing up as online when we are here..............
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:33
Ok, so you tell me who and why deleted posts that were neither abusive or obscene.
Seems to me that if you had assumed that I was referring to you and another poster here complaining about the content of the posts, then looks as if someone has a guilty conscience then.
Stop guessing and posting incorrect speculation.......
If you have an issue with the mods pm us and we will deal with it
If you don't like how we deal with things you can contact the site owner by clicking on the Contact Us link at the top of each page or go to other sites like suggested above that are more tolerant to posts like we had to delete for breaking the site rules.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:38
Oh so now we cant come on to Big Footy and post what could be seen as personal communications?? What a joke this is.
Bigfooty was never designed for personal discussions in the nature of the removed posts......Bigfooty was designed to discuss footy........there are plenty of other sites and software that will allow you to post like the deleted posts.
About time that you realised this place is for any member to post and that this particular thread was set up for us to discuss issues that are not concerning footy. So now all of a sudden, fun discussions are now banned as well.
No only posts that break the rules as the ones deleted clearly did.
Really, what the hell is happening with this website????
We're running it how it's been run for quite a few years as the majority of posters on the Port board are NOT interested in personal banter or topcis that are clearly covered on other boards.
If the majority of Port posters want that changed it will be addressed at the end of the year when we review the year and ask for input on what they want to see on our board.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:40
There was nothing R Rated posted. Nothing wrong with a bit of fun banter between posters.
The suggestive nature of the posts was clearly not G rated...........
As I have said in a previous post here, there is worse posted on the general and limbo boards.
And we're not stopping you from posting on those boards..........
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:45
Morell, I have no prob with DK or Macca19. I due have a problem with BD though.
Well BD had nothing to do with what happened here as I deleted the posts........also by having a problem with how one of us does things means you have a problem with all of us as we agree on all decisions made.
He never practices what he preaches.
Perhaps you should re-read the site rules that you agreed to when you signed up here..........no-one is forcing you to post here so if you don't like how we run things on the Port board there are plenty of other forums on the internet.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 19:49
Yeah, never crawl, give it to them scumbag mods morrey, after all they do get paid for being mods.
Have they been sending my weekly cheque to you........
When was the last time any of them paid for an Avatar hey hey?. :D :D
Plenty of others haven't/don't pay for avatars either if they have won a competition or helped the administrators out in some way.
Sandola
30 Aug 2006, 19:51
Have they been sending my weekly cheque to you........
Plenty of others haven't/don't pay for avatars either if they have won a competition or helped the administrators out in some way.
I think they're joking, DK. God knows you earn your avatars. (btw you should update yours to accurately reflect current haircuts.)
It’s the DK wrecking ball!
man, do you get a bonus for complete and utter destruction or something?
Like your work though and I am in complete agreement that the posts you deleted were inappropriate.
How much do you get for being a mod dk? C’mon... out with it! It’s ok, we won’t tell anyone.
Macca19
30 Aug 2006, 19:58
Shaz - Check out point 3 in the Bigfooty Rules. Ill highlight the appropriate bit here:
"Keep it topical. Keep your posts on the topic of the thread. If there is a new subject you want to cover search for a thread in progress on that topic or start a new one. Idle back-and-forth chit chat is best left for chat rooms. Avoid it on this discussion board except for in The Limbo Club board."
Leaving insular personal discussions to PM, MSN etc. has been one of the rules of Bigfooty since the very start.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 20:03
I think they're joking, DK. God knows you earn your avatars. (btw you should update yours to accurately reflect current haircuts.)
I knew that as *PAF is in our local supporters group up here........I'll be joking back at him on Saturday night when we give everyone else in our group free drinks at half time........:D
I just get sick of the pettiness and childish behaviour of a few of our adult posters on here given it takes up time when I would prefer to be joining in discussions on our board.......
Unfortunately over the last month TOO many hours have been spent dealing with adults acting worse than kindegarten kids on our board which I am totally sick of and if it continues I'll happily walk away from the site permanently.
I knew that as *PAF is in our local supporters group up here........I'll be joking back at him on Saturday night when we give everyone else in our group free drinks at half time........:D
I just get sick of the pettiness and childish behaviour of a few of our adult posters on here given it takes up time when I would prefer to be joining in discussions on our board.......
Unfortunately over the last month TOO many hours have been spent dealing with adults acting worse than kindegarten kids on our board which I am totally sick of and if it continues I'll happily walk away from the site permanently.
egads! Obviously whatever wicket you're on it isn't enough. :(
I think it’s time for a Moderator Strike!
Together! ... United! ... The Mods Will never be defeated! ... Together!...
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 20:10
It’s the DK wrecking ball!
Pity it's manual work and not with a wrecking ball...........:D
man, do you get a bonus for complete and utter destruction or something?
Like your work though and I am in complete agreement that the posts you deleted were inappropriate.
The bonus we get is the actual footy discussions on the board which we enjoy getting involved with...........unfortunately we've had to put up with petty garbage recently which has me close to walking away from the site completely.
How much do you get for being a mod dk? C’mon... out with it! It’s ok, we won’t tell anyone.
All the lottery tickets each week that don't win a prize.........:D
Have they been sending my weekly cheque to you........
...
Ha, next you'll tell us you're doing it for the love, just like you said when you worked as a bouncer at the local ... well shall we call it "happy house" to keep it 'G' rated. :p :D
egads! Obviously whatever wicket you're on it isn't enough. :(
I think it’s time for a Moderator Strike!
Together! ... United! ... The Mods Will never be defeated! ... Together!...
^^^ Hehe.
Spoken like a true wharfie. :D :D
Frank Spencer Clone
30 Aug 2006, 22:13
Fair comment that some of the posts got a little suggestive. No problem with that. Obscure references to South American geography might be sufficiently oblique to slip under most peoples' radar, but the following posts did get a little , er, let's say, grown up.....
What makes me laugh though is that this banter had been going back and forth since very late Saturday night.
Suddenly, a remark appears about ' puppy dogs ' three days later - and , voila! Out comes the censor.
Doesn't make a lot of sense. Or maybe it does. But rather than get myself embroiled in another fracas with the mods, I'll simply just say Mum's the word.
What do you reckon, Shaz?:D
Again your guesses are wrong..........
Wrong again as we can't have our profile set to off line so we always are showing up as online when we are here..............
Sorry but you are wrong on this occasion DK. If you look at BD's profile, he has it set so that no-one can see when he is on-line. If you look at the members list and want to see when he was last, it states N/A.
So there fore, us members do not no when BD is on line or not.
dreamkillers
30 Aug 2006, 23:08
Sorry but you are wrong on this occasion DK. If you look at BD's profile, he has it set so that no-one can see when he is on-line. If you look at the members list and want to see when he was last, it states N/A.
So there fore, us members do not no when BD is on line or not.
Well that is the fault of the administrators that we will follow up on...........that said I really don't see why you need to see if we are online or not.
When you send a pm we also get notified in other ways so if you want us to do something you should always send it to all 3 of us and it will be dealt with ASAP..........pretty simple really.
Paralowiepower
1 Sep 2006, 22:06
Now on ABC 2
Quarter time Swift 13 Thunderbirds 10
Paralowiepower
1 Sep 2006, 22:23
Swift 28 Thunderbirds 19
Half time :(
Pinepower
1 Sep 2006, 22:40
Score Swifts 65 Thunderbirds 36 :thumbsd:
I do not have ABC2 so have been following the live score
Always a hard game for us.
Just didnt think we would be getting beaten like this though :mad:
Frank Spencer Clone
2 Sep 2006, 09:14
You guys won't be discussing this subject at the club tonight, now, will you?
They also lost the coach as well.
After year 10's of being the coach of the Thunderbirds, Marg Angove called it quits.
ADELAIDE Thunderbirds lost a grand final - and a coach - last night.
The undefeated and merciless Sydney Swifts, playing at home, crushed the Thunderbirds by 29 goals in the grand final.
The 65-36 loss provided a sad farewell to Marg Angove, who made the shock decision to end her 10-year reign at the helm of the Thunderbirds.
She told the players of her decision after the grand final, but had already decided not to seek another contract.
"I think it's time to move on," Angove said.
"I have thought about this decision for a while but did not want to disrupt our preparation for the grand final.''
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,20334167-5006301,00.html
You guys won't be discussing this subject at the club tonight, now, will you?
Why??? Do you have a sudden interest in the game??
Since we are there to watch the Power take on Freo, Im sure that the game wont be mentioned unless someone enquires about the game.
portentous
7 Dec 2006, 09:13
So what do you have for Xmas morning breakfast? I just reread this thread and was after some cinamon toast-type recipes.
Carn guys, make me hungry.
missionpossible
9 Dec 2006, 06:29
So what do you have for Xmas morning breakfast? I just reread this thread and was after some cinamon toast-type recipes.
Carn guys, make me hungry.
Oysters Killpatric
Seafood Cocktails
Cold chicken platter
and some clear bubbly stuff that we use to call leg opener
Having BBQ over the road with most of the neighbours.
Prawns, snags, croissants with homemade strawberry jam, pancakes and
yes Nat..............Cinnamon toast.
Plus lots of grog........:p
Then home for the lunch time bbq.
Oh, mustnt forget my homemade Tiramisu with one hell of a kick to it.:D
portentous
9 Dec 2006, 19:24
Oysters Killpatric
Seafood Cocktails
Cold chicken platter
and some clear bubbly stuff that we use to call leg opener
You have that for breakfast?? Leaves no room for lunch and dinner then. :(
snap-shot
10 Dec 2006, 13:15
You have that for breakfast?? Leaves no room for lunch and dinner then. :(
I didn't even know there was such a thing as "xmas breakfast"... :eek: too busy opening gifts to think of food until a big lunch/dinner!! ha!:D
Toots Hibbert
11 Dec 2006, 10:54
After the early morning gift giving at home we generally go down to the Bay to friends and have a huge breakfast of scrambled eggs, sausages, bacon, fruit etc etc. We catch up with a few people we haven't seen for twelve months.
Then it's back home to finish preparing lunch which most years consists of pork, turkey and roast vegetables etc.
It used to be that we would then front up to my sisters for my family's do. Thankfully we put a stop to two family do's on the one day.
Best thing about Christmas food is picking through the leftovers for the next few days. No need to cook with a hangover. Just adopt the horizontal position in front of the telly with beer at the ready and enjoy the cricket and Sydney Hobart yacht race.
portentous
11 Dec 2006, 10:59
That was one of the worst parts of having Christmas in Melbourne Toots-no Boxing Day Test on telly! Christmas just wasn't the same if you couldn't watch the cricket while scoffing leftovers the day after.
MannumPower
21 Dec 2006, 07:40
I was at the Palmer pub last night for an 8 ball competition and found out the pub is now owned by Russell Eberts brother. Will certainly be supporting that pub more often now, great little place :thumbsu:
missionpossible
22 Dec 2006, 06:49
Being a mannum boy I gather you have seen young O'Malley play. Is he any good?