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chapmanmagic35
20 Aug 2006, 22:29
All reports are that he had a stellar morning/afternoon yesterday. Will he get his shot?
Reg Hickey
20 Aug 2006, 22:31
All reports are that he had a stellar morning/afternoon yesterday. Will he get his shot?
If Mooney the D***head is out again then I reckon its probably between him and Playfair. I'd be unhappy if Playfair got another go so soon.
hyperswivel
20 Aug 2006, 22:34
There are those close to Nathan that suggest that he has no desire to play at the top level. That he prefers his grass roots football. If the passion isn't there then there's no point pushing.
Reg Hickey
20 Aug 2006, 22:43
There are those close to Nathan that suggest that he has no desire to play at the top level. That he prefers his grass roots football. If the passion isn't there then there's no point pushing.
1. That's not what his brother says, and I'd suggest he's about as close as you can get.
2. If that was really the case, he wouldn't still be at the club after 2 years.
3. His endeavour on the field especially in recent weeks says otherwise.
Troll.
CatmanForever
20 Aug 2006, 22:58
all we can do is hope the midfield players actually kick it to him, if he gets a shot this week.
I think you summed up hyperswivel nicely there: TROLL! ha ha ha
Mr Sensitive
20 Aug 2006, 23:00
mooney will get rubbed out so Nathan should be played for these last two matches... Playfair has no right to be recalled after being given so many chances... The future is N.Ablett.
hyperswivel
20 Aug 2006, 23:02
Yes that's right... everything I say is a troll. I'm not trying to actually create a conversation, I just want people to hurl abuse at me. I'm such a masochist.
Actually, I hope he does find his feet and have a great career (preferabbly as a Hawk ;) ) I'm just trying to contribute some knowledge.
Yes that's right... everything I say is a troll. I'm not trying to actually create a conversation, I just want people to hurl abuse at me. I'm such a masochist.
Actually, I hope he does find his feet and have a great career (preferabbly as a Hawk ;) ) I'm just trying to contribute some knowledge.
How come hyperdermic has been unbanned from the Geelong board ? :confused:
Playfair has no right to be recalled after being given so many chances
No need to worry - he's injured.
thegerman
21 Aug 2006, 09:09
mooney will get rubbed out so Nathan should be played for these last two matches... Playfair has no right to be recalled after being given so many chances... The future is N.Ablett.
Playfair has had only 8 games this season, had a serious jaw injury last year, then came back to play extremely well at season's end. He then tore his hamstring (slight), which deprived him of a good start to the year. He then came back too early to tear a ligament in his shoulder and sat out 5-6 weeks.
Get off the guys back, I would love to see most of the idiots on this forum to come back to work after such serious injuries.
You guys are a joke at times. Totally losing reality most of you lot here. Some of you are so fickle that you forget what happened last year, H did quite well at the end of the year and puts in each week. At least we can say he doesn't get reported every second week for useless and undiciplined acts like our other CHF.
H will most likely miss out anyway, injured again with a groin strain.
Sure Ablett is ok, but he isn't a world beater either. He has only played one game where we can say he has some skills, that being against the Eagles - LAST YEAR.
I'm not saying he will be a bad player, most likely not, but there is so many deficiencies in his game. He is way too slow for the AFL level. Therefore if playing at CHF he will be run around by someone who likes to run off, leaving him behind. All our CHF's need a good pre-season, along with the rest of the team with a new fitnes coach.
Please, give the guys who have been injured a break, they have reasons for not playing well, there is others who have not been injured yet no-one seems to give a toss. Our bad season isn't reason to pick on guys who have been injured and the match committee has brought them back too soon.
thehoff
21 Aug 2006, 09:47
Playfair has had only 8 games this season, had a serious jaw injury last year, then came back to play extremely well at season's end. He then tore his hamstring (slight), which deprived him of a good start to the year. He then came back too early to tear a ligament in his shoulder and sat out 5-6 weeks.
Get off the guys back, I would love to see most of the idiots on this forum to come back to work after such serious injuries.
You guys are a joke at times. Totally losing reality most of you lot here. Some of you are so fickle that you forget what happened last year, H did quite well at the end of the year and puts in each week. At least we can say he doesn't get reported every second week for useless and undiciplined acts like our other CHF.
H will most likely miss out anyway, injured again with a groin strain.
Sure Ablett is ok, but he isn't a world beater either. He has only played one game where we can say he has some skills, that being against the Eagles - LAST YEAR.
I'm not saying he will be a bad player, most likely not, but there is so many deficiencies in his game. He is way too slow for the AFL level. Therefore if playing at CHF he will be run around by someone who likes to run off, leaving him behind. All our CHF's need a good pre-season, along with the rest of the team with a new fitnes coach.
Please, give the guys who have been injured a break, they have reasons for not playing well, there is others who have not been injured yet no-one seems to give a toss. Our bad season isn't reason to pick on guys who have been injured and the match committee has brought them back too soon.
Oh god. What garbage. I swear we've been through this before. Playfair is a hack. Nath is the future!
The jaw excuse is really pathetic now. IT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO!
Mr Sensitive
21 Aug 2006, 10:44
Oh god. What garbage. I swear we've been through this before. Playfair is a hack. Nath is the future!
The jaw excuse is really pathetic now. IT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO!
Spot on... German did you even see the match against the saints? The bloke is built like a brick s hit house but he is terrified to actually go hard for the footy... that effort in the third quarter was deplorable... There's still an outside chance he'll come good but right now he doesn't warrant selection, especilly since Ablett is in good nick in the VFL.
Turbocat
21 Aug 2006, 14:03
I heard it said before and read it in the GA interview the other day that Nathan is more comfortable at the club now and has his own group of friends/mates.
Who are these mates of his?Are they guys that are playing VFL or players that are in the A's. He seems to be a guy who lives for the mateship of a footy club, after all wasn't this one of the reasons he wanted to stay at Moda in the first place. For mine I dont think we will see the best of Nathan untill he is playing with his mates in the A's and I dread the thought of him budding up with guys who end up being delisted etc. I can only hope he becomes strong mates with the likes of Tom Hawkins , some kids destined to proceed and to be around the club for a long period of time.
thegerman
21 Aug 2006, 15:04
Oh god. What garbage. I swear we've been through this before. Playfair is a hack. Nath is the future!
The jaw excuse is really pathetic now. IT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO!
I am not using the jaw injury as an excuse, as I stated he did have this injury last year, in which he came back and proved his worth going into the finals. This year he has torn a hamstring and blew out his AC joint, both of those were serious injuries this year. The AC ligament damage put him out for 6-7 weeks. A bit hard to pick up form and fitness in that period, especially with the debarcle going on in the fitness department, i.e. Barto 'please someone punch me in the gob' lacci.
We have so many others on the list who haven't performed yet haven't been through injuries as bad as big H. The likes of KK spring to mind, along with Lonergan and Macca.
I actually stand corrected, the game where he did show his form was against Brisbane, he had 15 disposals with 8 marks. That also was not playing the full game at CHF, some major time was spent on the bench.
Nathan will be a good player, but he isn't the future you dream of. So far in his short career he has played only one good game. ONE !! That is it. Is this the future ??? We all don't know due to the selection panel dropping the CHF possie like a hot potato. You need time to get to fitness and skill at that level, especially when we do not have anyone who has the natural talent to fill that possie.
To date, Nathan's high in career marks within one game is 6, with his game high posessions raining in at 11.
Whilst I don't want to bag him out, he hasn't had the opportunity either. Not through injury as H has put up with, but also the match committee's inability to stick with players for more than a game or two. In fact both players have been put through the ringer on this exact effect.
LongBomb
21 Aug 2006, 15:58
I'm just trying to contribute some knowledge.
Your 'knowledge' contradicts what Nathan's brother said in an interview last week so I'd suggest it counts for very little.
dirty_dizz
21 Aug 2006, 16:49
N Ablett = bigggggggg flop
how many times have you been told to get the **** out dizz? :confused:
thegerman
21 Aug 2006, 17:36
N Ablett = bigggggggg flop
He will be good, just to say again, once the match committee stick with guys for longer than a game, guys like NAblett, Henry and co will develop. It is hard doing so getting injuries and then get thrown in the deep end and dropped thereafter.
It just doesn't work. The match committee at Geelong needs to have a hard look at themselves, their inability to stick with players so they can get some time to develop has been woeful.
Everyone of the forwards (except Ottens) has gone through this crap all year. Their form is all related to the crap passing that we have out of our midfield and the inability of the match committee to stand by them for longer than a game.
cat in sydney
21 Aug 2006, 17:42
He will be good, just to say again, once the match committee stick with guys for longer than a game, guys like NAblett, Henry and co will develop. It is hard doing so getting injuries and then get thrown in the deep end and dropped thereafter.
It just doesn't work. The match committee at Geelong needs to have a hard look at themselves, their inability to stick with players so they can get some time to develop has been woeful.
Everyone of the forwards (except Ottens) has gone through this crap all year. Their form is all related to the crap passing that we have out of our midfield and the inability of the match committee to stand by them for longer than a game.
Yeah, I agree. Pick a forward and give them more time to come up to speed.
This would have happened to Ottens as well at different points based on his 'forward' form, but remained in the side due to his important and flexibility in the ruck. If Nablett and co had the extended stint that Otto has had, then they would most likely develop the same consistency he has at seasons end (however, I think Nablett is really the only one at present that has a future hope - Playfair and Macca both have flaws that are beyond just giving them time to fix up).
chapmanmagic35
21 Aug 2006, 17:44
N Ablett = bigggggggg flop
He's played a handful of games - and shown talent. Imagine how many guns we may nopt have seen if we chopped them after about 10 games?
Hell, we would have never heard of a guy called Gary Ablett Snr.
N Ablett = bigggggggg flop
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he's played a handful of games - and shown talent. Imagine how many guns we may nopt have seen if we chopped them after about 10 games?
Hell, we would have never heard of a guy called Gary Ablett Snr.
Didn't players like Michael Tuck and Gary O'Donnell play somewhere between 50-100 reserve games before they became regular senior players ?
It might've even before they played seniors.
dirty_dizz
21 Aug 2006, 18:33
My bad, forgot anyone with the surname 'Ablett' isn't criticised at Geelong, despite failing to live up to even conservative expectations!
*Waits for ban from Geelong board* :D
*Waits for ban from Geelong board* :D
Don't wait.Just feck off and play on the train tracks.
Jim Boy
21 Aug 2006, 21:48
My bad, forgot anyone with the surname 'Ablett' isn't criticised at Geelong, despite failing to live up to even conservative expectations!
*Waits for ban from Geelong board* :D
Oh well, seeing as I can only ban on a site-wide basis, that'll have to do.
Oh well, seeing as I can only ban on a site-wide basis, that'll have to do.
Hi Fives all round.
Top Work.
chapmanmagic35
21 Aug 2006, 22:51
Didn't players like Michael Tuck and Gary O'Donnell play somewhere between 50-100 reserve games before they became regular senior players ?
It might've even before they played seniors.
Yeah, Tucky played about 100 reserve games.
My bad, forgot anyone with the surname 'Ablett' isn't criticised at Geelong, despite failing to live up to even conservative expectations!
*Waits for ban from Geelong board* :D
Pretty much nathan is still young and has some development to go but it can take kpp some time to develope the body size to compete for contested ball. One key forward that was disappointing this year was that warren tredrea guy. I know some ppl are saying he dislocated his knee etc but he really didn't show much at all this year so I conclude he must be a dud :P
shahla_selena
22 Aug 2006, 05:50
he's gonna be a great player, just give him a few years. worth sticking with in my opinion
scottydeewah
22 Aug 2006, 06:47
interesting to read that at the same age as Jnr, Snr had only played 6 games. So by that measure Nathan is also probably ahead of his old man in the development region. So when you think Jnr is about to rack up 100 and is a very good player we can really hold on to Nath for about 3 more seasons before we decided to cut him.
The thing Nathan also brings to the game is the buzz. That game against WC he tore the game apart, KP was rocking and the whole team lifted. There are only a few players in the league that can do that, and they arent always the "best of the best" but they have that factor and when they are on everyone around them rises as one.
I also think he has been restricted because we have thought we were in the hunt for a flag. Take for example the two boys from Hawthorn. Both have had some big matches, but more noticable both have been f*cking destroyed more times than not. They are both good players though and may become guns, but Hawthorn can afford to play them as they dont think they are going finals. Because we THOUGHT we were we had to try and play the best 22, and really on experience alone there are players ahead of Nathan. I would like to see us draft next year, cull our list a bit and play Hawkins and Nathan as much as possible next year. I think really we should be aiming at 2008.
Partridge
22 Aug 2006, 14:52
My bad, forgot anyone with the surname 'Ablett' isn't criticised at Geelong, despite failing to live up to even conservative expectations!
*Waits for ban from Geelong board* :D
Wrong.
But if you delisted every player who had 10 quiet games at the start of their career you'd cut a lot of greats out of the game.
Michael Tuck - 50 reserves games (I think). Dipper played 99 in the 2s.
By your astounding logic Hawthorn should have got rid of them right genius?
Turbocat
22 Aug 2006, 21:07
interesting to read that at the same age as Jnr, Snr had only played 6 games. So by that measure Nathan is also probably ahead of his old man in the development region. So when you think Jnr is about to rack up 100 and is a very good player we can really hold on to Nath for about 3 more seasons before we decided to cut him.
The thing Nathan also brings to the game is the buzz. That game against WC he tore the game apart, KP was rocking and the whole team lifted. There are only a few players in the league that can do that, and they arent always the "best of the best" but they have that factor and when they are on everyone around them rises as one.
I also think he has been restricted because we have thought we were in the hunt for a flag. Take for example the two boys from Hawthorn. Both have had some big matches, but more noticable both have been f*cking destroyed more times than not. They are both good players though and may become guns, but Hawthorn can afford to play them as they dont think they are going finals. Because we THOUGHT we were we had to try and play the best 22, and really on experience alone there are players ahead of Nathan. I would like to see us draft next year, cull our list a bit and play Hawkins and Nathan as much as possible next year. I think really we should be aiming at 2008.
Good point on games played. Nathan would be far closer to dad than Gary in disposition. On top of that he is a bigger player than the other two in a game thats getting quicker. He at least deserves the time given to some of our other project talls. Gardiner/ McCarthy/Playfair - 01 Draft.
The two boys from the Hawks?Do you mean Roughead and Franklin? Franklin has alreaedy shown enough to make me think they can handle the level,love to have him at the Cats. Not so sure that just pumping games into young players , whether they are handling the tempo or not, is the way to go.
On the whole I'd say this is an area have been pretty good at down here. Nathan to my mind will always be a player that will require to use his strength of body to ensure he drags a bigger bodied,slower defender. Another year or two of preseason gym work and he will be a fearsome sight , in the meanwhile some agility work and 50M sprint work would be good for him. I think this would advantage him more than just games.
Wrong.
But if you delisted every player who had 10 quiet games at the start of their career you'd cut a lot of greats out of the game.
Michael Tuck - 50 reserves games (I think). Dipper played 99 in the 2s.
By your astounding logic Hawthorn should have got rid of them right genius?
Shane Tuck also was with the Hawks for a couple of seasons but couldn't break into the 1sts... went to SA and came back a gun.
Travis Tuck The Hawks are going to be a lot more patient with and let him mature. No way we are letting him slip through like his brother.
Luke Ablett also worked hard to get picked up by Sydney on a very late pick. Took a couple of years to show his hardness.
There is no way I'd be giving up on Nathan. He still has to mature both physically and mentally. Once he does I reckon you've got a champ on your hands.
interesting to read that at the same age as Jnr, Snr had only played 6 games. So by that measure Nathan is also probably ahead of his old man in the development region. So when you think Jnr is about to rack up 100 and is a very good player we can really hold on to Nath for about 3 more seasons before we decided to cut him.
The thing Nathan also brings to the game is the buzz. That game against WC he tore the game apart, KP was rocking and the whole team lifted. There are only a few players in the league that can do that, and they arent always the "best of the best" but they have that factor and when they are on everyone around them rises as one.
I also think he has been restricted because we have thought we were in the hunt for a flag. Take for example the two boys from Hawthorn. Both have had some big matches, but more noticable both have been f*cking destroyed more times than not. They are both good players though and may become guns, but Hawthorn can afford to play them as they dont think they are going finals. Because we THOUGHT we were we had to try and play the best 22, and really on experience alone there are players ahead of Nathan. I would like to see us draft next year, cull our list a bit and play Hawkins and Nathan as much as possible next year. I think really we should be aiming at 2008.
The only reason he had only played 6 games at that age (for the Hawks) was because he didn't turn up to training most of the time and Alan Jeans at the time wouldn't stand for it. SNR had more talent than his older brothers Graham and Kevin... just had a lot of attitude.. and ended up getting the boot from Jeans. Nath and his dad are similar in the way that they don't like the spotlight... but they just want to play footy without the responsibilities attached.
Its got me how Geelong managed to get SNR to turn up to training...
Mr.Chicken
25 Aug 2006, 20:01
I think Nathan Ablett is very skilled but would be best as a full foward, he just doesnt have the agility of a CHF. However more games into him is good, better than wasting them on Kingsley.
Reg Hickey
25 Aug 2006, 20:20
NA probably has one or two things he needs to work on, but the boy's not even 21 yet so I would definitely give him at least two more years.
He and a few others (Hawkins, Varcoe, Gamble, Blake, Stokes, Prismall) might get a few games in 2007, but are not going to be world beaters. However, if they develop like we hope they will, then 2008-9 is looking awesome ...
The premiership window is close to opening ...
scottydeewah
26 Aug 2006, 08:51
I jus think right now out of our players at FF that NAB and Otto are the only two who can pull it off regulary. Having said that Otto doesnt belong at FF. He needs to play forward, as a bloke to stand up when our usual FF cant. When the FF is struggling Otto will kick 4. Sometimes he will kick that anyway. Nathan is the only player that looks like he can play footy. The others look like athletic sort of dudes, some big blokes, guys that can run and catch. Not guys that can stamp their mark on a game, guys with the ability to put someone in their place.
NAB might not either. But in 1 game he did. And in a couple I thought it was more inexperience and the ability to quiet pull it off just yet. I think he can, I ****ing hope so. Give him a ****ing go.
scottydeewah
26 Aug 2006, 08:51
There is no other FF at our club except KK. We cant do it with Kent.
Okay maybe we can, but it is like pushing **** up hill.
I hate ****
patdman
27 Aug 2006, 03:46
looks like he went alright today? Did he play in the midfield?
And so it was that the match did not truly start till after half-time. A bake from Mark Thompson fired the Cats and their midfield, led by Gary and Nathan Ablett, Cameron Ling and Bartel, started to run. In contrast, Melbourne, which had had winners in the likes of Cameron Bruce, Travis Johnstone, Daniel Bell, James McDonald and Brad Green, became stagnant and indecisive.