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Merv
25 Aug 2006, 11:57
A lot of these articles don't carry much weight, but this one does name names, so hopefully is on the money, so to speak.

GOD i hope so.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/08/24/1156012674658.html

Darealrath
25 Aug 2006, 12:48
Same thing reported in the H/S. Glad they've come to an agreement because it's obviously in both parties interests.

Hopefully he does a few special things tomorrow night to leave us with.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 12:51
One more spear tackle, please Deano.

Glad it's all worked out and good luck to him.

DaSawx
25 Aug 2006, 13:27
The winning goal from a tight angle ;)

go_the_bombers
25 Aug 2006, 13:30
One more spear tackle, please Deano.

Glad it's all worked out and good luck to him.

Which Tiger player would you want him to plant it on Longy?;) :p

go_the_bombers
25 Aug 2006, 13:31
The winning goal from a tight angle ;)

That would be great;)

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 13:34
Which Tiger player would you want him to plant it on Longy?;) :p

I'm not fussy, unless Scotty Turner is going to make a come-back.

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 13:42
One more spear tackle, please Deano.

Glad it's all worked out and good luck to him.

Not sure if you are serious or just playing around.
IF you are serious you want to have a hard look at yourself.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 13:48
Not sure if you are serious or just playing around.
IF you are serious you want to have a hard look at yourself.

Huh?

Darealrath
25 Aug 2006, 13:50
One more spear tackle, please Deano.


Or an attempted one, whatever that is.

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 14:13
Huh?

Do you actually want him to Spear tackle someone?
ie pick them up and drive their head into the ground?

DaSawx
25 Aug 2006, 14:15
Do you actually want him to Spear tackle someone?
ie pick them up and drive their head into the ground?

Calm down mate, more like a spinebuster, they land on their back

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:19
Do you actually want him to Spear tackle someone?
ie pick them up and drive their head into the ground?

Not familiar with Dean Rioli's tackling technique?

Crave
25 Aug 2006, 14:20
Do you actually want him to Spear tackle someone?
ie pick them up and drive their head into the ground?

Lighten up, mate! He's not asking him to decapitate another player....just something physical out there for us to remember him by.

go_the_bombers
25 Aug 2006, 14:25
Calm down mate, more like a spinebuster, they land on their back

:thumbsu: good old spinebuster:p Wonder if Rioli been watchin Batista lately;)

stander
25 Aug 2006, 14:27
Lighten up, mate! He's not asking him to decapitate another player....just something physical out there for us to remember him by.
We know Rioli can tackle well- he doesn't need to leave the game with a reportable spear tackle.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:30
We know Rioli can tackle well- he doesn't need to leave the game with a reportable spear tackle.

Another one unfamiliar with Rioli's tackling technique.

Head down, shoulder driven into the opponents chest.

That isn't reportable.

Crave
25 Aug 2006, 14:30
We know Rioli can tackle well- he doesn't need to leave the game with a reportable spear tackle.

Here we go...blowing something out of proportion

go_the_bombers
25 Aug 2006, 14:31
Another one unfamiliar with Rioli's tackling technique.

Head down, shoulder driven into the opponents chest.

That isn't reportable.

Correct

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 14:31
Lighten up, mate! He's not asking him to decapitate another player....just something physical out there for us to remember him by.

NO what he asked for was a spear tackle, that is why i actually asked the question we he joking or serious.

You guys are answering for him saying this is what he meant, that is what he meant, well if he meant something physical why didnt he say, shirtfront for example?

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 14:32
Another one unfamiliar with Rioli's tackling technique.

Head down, shoulder driven into the opponents chest.

That isn't reportable.

That also isnt a spear tackle.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:33
NO what he asked for was a spear tackle, that is why i actually asked the question we he joking or serious.

You guys are answering for him saying this is what he meant, that is what he meant, well if he meant something physical why didnt he say, shirtfront for example?

Dean Rioli has a trademark tackling technique, which I described above.

Spear tackle may not be the most appropriate title for it, but it seems most other people knew what I was talking about.

It's fair, it's physical and it's damn well exciting.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:36
That also isnt a spear tackle.

There isn't a clear definition of a spear tackle, not in our rules, not in Rugby.

From what I can gather, what you described is normally refered to as a dangerous throw, in Rugby anyway.

It's open to interpretation.

Crave
25 Aug 2006, 14:39
NO what he asked for was a spear tackle, that is why i actually asked the question we he joking or serious.

You guys are answering for him saying this is what he meant, that is what he meant, well if he meant something physical why didnt he say, shirtfront for example?


Here we go, Ill give you something to reply to. I want Rioli to grab his nearest opponent by the head and ram it in the the nearest turnbuckle. As his opponent gets slung back, I want Dean to scoop him up, hold him and point to the stands, then drive the poor sap into the ground for one earth shattering piledriver. To finish off, I want him to tear his guernesy down the middle to the sounds of Hulkamania from the loudspeakers. A spear tackle will pale in comparison to this finale.

Wonder how the tribunal system will view this incident....

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 14:41
There isn't a clear definition of a spear tackle, not in our rules, not in Rugby.

From what I can gather, what you described is normally refered to as a dangerous throw, in Rugby anyway.

It's open to interpretation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear_tackle

Darealrath
25 Aug 2006, 14:42
It's fair, it's physical and it's damn well exciting.

Last time i saw him do it (vs st kilda last season) he had free paid against him despite getting the guy in the chest. Hit the bloke so hard the umpire felt sorry for him and gave him a free. Crowd were might ****ed off.

go_the_bombers
25 Aug 2006, 14:42
Here we go, Ill give you something to reply to. I want Rioli to grab his nearest opponent by the head and ram it in the the nearest turnbuckle. As his opponent gets slung back, I want Dean to scoop him up, hold him and point to the stands, then drive the poor sap into the ground for one earth shattering piledriver. To finish off, I want him to tear his guernesy down the middle to the sounds of Hulkamania from the loudspeakers. A spear tackle will pale in comparison to this finale.

Wonder how the tribunal system will view this incident....

Don't know about the tribunal system but I think Rioli will be getting a phone call from the WWE;) :p

stander
25 Aug 2006, 14:43
Another one unfamiliar with Rioli's tackling technique.

Head down, shoulder driven into the opponents chest.

That isn't reportable.

There are not many unfamiliar with Riolis' tackling technique- even he would be loathe to assocoiate it remotely with a spear tackle, which you have done. You may withdraw your description at any time. .

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:45
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear_tackle

"There is no definition/description of a spear-tackle in the Laws of the Game. Because there is no definition/description, the term is open to interpretation and loose talk."

http://www.rugbyrugby.com/Laws_Referees/Law_Discussions/story_44533.shtml

Wikipedia is a user based site, not an official source of information.

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 14:47
There are not many unfamiliar with Riolis' tackling technique- even he would be loathe to assocoiate it remotely with a spear tackle, which you have done. You may withdraw your description at any time. .

Judging by Wikipedia, it appears I'm not the first.

I've got nothing to retract because I was not portraying Dean in a negative light. It was meant in good jest and it seems it was taken in that light by the majority of posters in this thread.

If you're not happy with it, report it to the mods and they can remove it. Email it to the club or Dean Rioli, block me, or just shutup.

stander
25 Aug 2006, 14:53
Judging by Wikipedia, it appears I'm not the first.

I've got nothing to retract because I was not portraying Dean in a negative light. It was meant in good jest and it seems it was taken in that light by the majority of posters in this thread.

If you're not happy with it, report it to the mods and they can remove it. Email it to the club or Dean Rioli, block me, or just shutup.

Someone told you to lighten up the other day, looks like you took his advice and it wasn't picked up by some- unfortunately it didn't last long.

koc#41
25 Aug 2006, 14:59
Its a sad day!

koc#41
25 Aug 2006, 15:06
Not many people know this, but the rioli came from a rugby background, and was fairly talented... He got selected for both Rugby and AFL representative sides and had to make the choice of which to follow due to the fact the team trips were held at the sme time, the only reason he chose AFL was because the Rugby team was going to sydney, where he had already been to. The AFL team was coming to melbourne, where he had not been to - so he chose AFL

Thank god he chose AFL! and that probably shows you where he gets his tackling style from also

Crave
25 Aug 2006, 15:12
Now Im having a laugh....a simple rev up for some Deano tackling has become a discussion topic.

DaSawx
25 Aug 2006, 15:14
Some people need to get over themselves. Why tell someone to lighten up when his tongue in cheek comment was totally taken out of context.

These threads aren't making me laugh, they're making me shake my head

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 15:15
Someone told you to lighten up the other day, looks like you took his advice and it wasn't picked up by some- unfortunately it didn't last long.

I get impatient waiting for answers.

I'll try and work on it.

zafa23
25 Aug 2006, 15:21
Quite possibly the worst thread on Bigfooty...ever!

Longy413
25 Aug 2006, 15:23
Quite possibly the worst thread on Bigfooty...ever!

I have to agree, and I'm the major contributor.

Crave
25 Aug 2006, 15:32
Some people need to get over themselves. Why tell someone to lighten up when his tongue in cheek comment was totally taken out of context.

These threads aren't making me laugh, they're making me shake my head


Well, it was yours truly who suggested he lighten up, but I felt I had to put my two bobs worth in when a simple comment referring to Rioli's brand of tackling became an issue for some. I stated my opinion as this is after all...a forum for opinions

zafa23
25 Aug 2006, 15:51
I have to agree, and I'm the major contributor.Well not really your fault in the first place. It was obvious your reference to a spear tackle was in fact a reference to Rioli's trademark tackle and not a call for blood.

Perhaps the person who criticised your comment in the first place has other issues with you. Just throwing this out there but perhaps that person doesnt agree with your view on say avoiding the wooden spoon, and felt the need to take you on in another unrelated issue. Hypothetical of course. *nudge*

Merv
25 Aug 2006, 16:07
Well not really your fault in the first place. It was obvious your reference to a spear tackle was in fact a reference to Rioli's trademark tackle and not a call for blood.

Perhaps the person who criticised your comment in the first place has other issues with you. Just throwing this out there but perhaps that person doesnt agree with your view on say avoiding the wooden spoon, and felt the need to take you on in another unrelated issue. Hypothetical of course. *nudge*

I started this thread and questioned Longys comment on a spear tackle.
Not sure if you are serious or just playing around.
IF you are serious you want to have a hard look at yourself.

It was a question based on the request for a spear tackle.
It's obvious now that Longy didn't mean what most would think a spear tackle is.
I don't have any issues with Longy at all and find he makes quite a lot of sense and generally presents quite a well balanced discussion, although we dont agree on everything.

As for the spoon argument i have made my views clear as have many others here. The difference between me and a lot of them, not all, is they refuse to see it from another point of view and label it a disgrace etc wheres i don't agree with them but can see justification in their view point.

I don't hold any grudges from guys on the internet and if i did Longy wouldnt be one of them.But i'm also not going to be one of the ones to agree with him or any one else if i feel they are wrong or i have a different point of view.

I think this was just a case of interpriatation on a spear tackle definition and i didnt accuse Longy i only asked for clarification if he was saying what i thought he was saying.

I'm sure hes got broad shoulders.

wazzabp
25 Aug 2006, 17:30
Congratulations to Dean Rioli on his 100th game. I'm also glad that both Dean and the Essendon Football Club came to terms on his retirement agreement. Well done to both parties and all the best for the future Deano after Saturday night!:thumbsu:

Sam the RAMA fan
25 Aug 2006, 19:23
Well Done Rioli! :D
Enjoy life after footy with the kids! :thumbsu:
CONGRATS!

stander
25 Aug 2006, 20:43
Well not really your fault in the first place. It was obvious your reference to a spear tackle was in fact a reference to Rioli's trademark tackle and not a call for blood.

Perhaps the person who criticised your comment in the first place has other issues with you. Just throwing this out there but perhaps that person doesnt agree with your view on say avoiding the wooden spoon, and felt the need to take you on in another unrelated issue. Hypothetical of course. *nudge*

Other issues are irelevant- the guy said he wanted Rioli to lay one of his spear tackles and the other guy deemed it inappropriate; which was fair enough.

Toasta
25 Aug 2006, 20:58
Hey Merv...I hope he pile drives some bloke.

D*<k head.

stander
25 Aug 2006, 21:00
Hey Merv...I hope he pile drives some bloke.

D*<k head.

Maybe you could get in his way clown.

Toasta
25 Aug 2006, 21:02
What is a 'way clown'??

stander
25 Aug 2006, 21:07
What is a 'way clown'??

Do you have any intelligence ?

Toasta
25 Aug 2006, 21:17
This is bigfooty mate, you should know by now that this is no place for intelligence.

Try to take things less seriously.

DaSawx
26 Aug 2006, 09:07
I can't believe this crap is still going, if it wasn't for some nice things said about Deano this thread would be deleted.

P.S. 1 more 'Dean Rioli style tackle' would be very nice

stander
26 Aug 2006, 10:04
I can't believe this crap is still going, if it wasn't for some nice things said about Deano this thread would be deleted.

P.S. 1 more 'Dean Rioli style tackle' would be very nice

Sanity prevails- well defined there Moderator.

Merv
26 Aug 2006, 12:28
I can't believe this crap is still going, if it wasn't for some nice things said about Deano this thread would be deleted.

P.S. 1 more 'Dean Rioli style tackle' would be very nice

Agreed DeSawx

Toasta, there are actually many people on here that show plenty of intelligence and present well constructed arguments, you are just not one of them [insert clown icon here]

DeSawx, Delete away

Crave
26 Aug 2006, 20:10
Would it be appropriate to include the phrase 'Only in America' ? Its gone froma spear tackle, to a piledriver (my mistake) to a clown' and now a ********. Smells like chinese whispers to me. Id say delete this thread before an opposing team's poster sees this and evaluates our intelligence based on this disaster.

Dr Moose
26 Aug 2006, 23:11
And after all that crap for a bruised elbow to rob him of the chance!

Hawk0373
26 Aug 2006, 23:44
Would it be appropriate to include the phrase 'Only in America' ? Its gone froma spear tackle, to a piledriver (my mistake) to a clown' and now a ********. Smells like chinese whispers to me. Id say delete this thread before an opposing team's poster sees this and evaluates our intelligence based on this disaster.

Too late.

Jex
27 Aug 2006, 10:51
Id say delete this thread before an opposing team's poster sees this and evaluates our intelligence based on this disaster.

This is actually pretty sophisticated stuff for BigFooty.

MrAaron
27 Aug 2006, 11:02
what disaster ?