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Hawthorn '06
27 Aug 2006, 12:19
Leroy Jetta?
Jack Riewoldt?
James Sellar?

Or anyone else?

Personally id like leroy jetta..but i would like to know what other hawk fans would want..because atm..i doubt lachlan hansen and thorpe would fall to pick 6..who would you think bucky would be looking at, at the moment?

Unfulfilled Potential
27 Aug 2006, 12:45
Jetta looks to be very exciting, but is Pick 6 too big a price to pay?
He certainly won't be there for our next pick, unless Pelchin and the crew do something very clever if/when spida leaves.
Would prefer a tall - Hansen would have been perfect...
It depends on whether Sellar can play KP, if not maybe Riewoldt.
maybe go Jetta, then use our 2nd rounder to pick up one of the Brown brothers (sounds like a Winery) from Ballarat.
Let's hope Thorp slides... time will tell.

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mattyc2422
27 Aug 2006, 13:23
Still too early to tell. People thought Hurn would go top 4 and he went 13. Alot changes.

matsta1975
27 Aug 2006, 13:34
Jetta looks to be very exciting, but is Pick 6 too big a price to pay?
He certainly won't be there for our next pick, unless Pelchin and the crew do something very clever if/when spida leaves.
Would prefer a tall - Hansen would have been perfect...
It depends on whether Sellar can play KP, if not maybe Riewoldt.
maybe go Jetta, then use our 2nd rounder to pick up one of the Brown brothers (sounds like a Winery) from Ballarat.
Let's hope Thorp slides... time will tell.

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2nd round brown brothers? Myles sewell has been an absolute standout this year for north ballarat and has not got any media coverage which baffels me, he can make the grade make no mistake

philhawk
27 Aug 2006, 13:41
Mitch Thorp, Jack Reiwoldt or James Sellar will slip to our pick, i'll be happy with any of them. :)

Hawthorn '06
27 Aug 2006, 13:43
Myles Sewell?What type of player is he?is he the same size as our sewell?

Unfulfilled Potential
27 Aug 2006, 14:02
2nd round brown brothers? Myles sewell has been an absolute standout this year for north ballarat and has not got any media coverage which baffels me, he can make the grade make no mistake

Let's hope the lack of media works in our favour, we may be able to get him cheaply - Brad has certainly come on.

It mentions on the net his details below:

Myles SEWELL 10/2/88 183 70 Nth Ballarat

I mentioned the Brown brothers as second rounders due to their height and the fact that most "mock" drafts people have thrown up seem to have them in the mid 20's, if we can get a gun KPP with our first pick then a fast midfielder would certainly be the go for our 2nd rounder.

If Myles Sewell pulls on the brown and gold and he makes the grade i'll be wrapped!!!

Alex_au
27 Aug 2006, 14:24
Leroy Jetta has been described as similar to Akermanis and Ashley Sampi. I think he could have the potentual to be a star, or maybe just a forward pocket dudd like David Rodan.

My pick would go with Jack Riewoldt, I think he will become better then his cousin Nick and the signs are so far good on what I have seen on him playing for Tassie. He is lightning fast for his size and reminds me of a player similar to Lance Franklin. Could be suited to Centre Half Back or a player who could pinch hit up forward or even take the ruck.

Nightwolf
27 Aug 2006, 15:09
Time for come devils advocate..

Im a tad disappointed we won yesterday (although we did our best not to). Yes, im a disgrace, but what exactly was the incentive to win? We just lost a top line KPP for the left overs of the 'top picks'...

But what can ya do. I also think the wins this season flatters us and we are still a fair way off (we beat Essendon and Carlton 2 times)...

But that said, im hoping Thorp can slip to us..

And i love winning yes, but when youve lost the whole season and start winning the games that means absolutely nothing, i tend to think, "why bother?" which is why the system is flawed.

Back Pocket Rocket
27 Aug 2006, 16:49
Make that pick 5 with Port beating the Crows.

Hawthorn '06
27 Aug 2006, 16:52
make that pick 5?hehe..you think thorpe or hansen would last to number five?

Heropsychodreamer
27 Aug 2006, 18:43
make that pick 5?hehe..you think thorpe or hansen would last to number five?

We got a win, and kept in the top 5 at the draft. I rate 5 players at the moment... gibbs, hansen, thorpe, Gummybear and sellar... i hear they are all going to be champions... and the bloke going to geelong. Riewolds cuz looks the goods as well... but everyone says he will still b elucky to make top 10... could be a surprise packet.

Most likely finish with pick 5... shouws we have jumped 2 places this yr, won 3 more games and got a ripper kid in the process

Hawk0373
27 Aug 2006, 19:12
Time for come devils advocate..

Im a tad disappointed we won yesterday (although we did our best not to). Yes, im a disgrace, but what exactly was the incentive to win? We just lost a top line KPP for the left overs of the 'top picks'...

But what can ya do. I also think the wins this season flatters us and we are still a fair way off (we beat Essendon and Carlton 2 times)...

But that said, im hoping Thorp can slip to us..

And i love winning yes, but when youve lost the whole season and start winning the games that means absolutely nothing, i tend to think, "why bother?" which is why the system is flawed.

Thats right, the system is flawed. The sooner they somehow stop rewarding teams for "resting" players the better.

I'm rapt we've won our last 3, the draft is strong enough for us to get a quality kid (Franklin was 5) but the winning culture amongst the young blokes, no matter what end of the season, is invaluable.

Dr_Mutley
27 Aug 2006, 19:21
Thats right, the system is flawed. The sooner they somehow stop rewarding teams for "resting" players the better.

I'm rapt we've won our last 3, the draft is strong enough for us to get a quality kid (Franklin was 5) but the winning culture amongst the young blokes, no matter what end of the season, is invaluable.

Maybe draft positions should be defined by wher eu are on the ladder at round 16 or 18? would solve that problem...

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cschreuder61
27 Aug 2006, 19:23
I'm kinda leaning towards a midfielder, a high quality one. The games we've been shut-down this year have been when Hodge, and Mitchell have gotten the heavy tags. If we can get another into our midfield rotation, meaning we can be more flexible with hodge (play half back with bursts in the middle) I think we would have a more balanced side and harder to match-up on.

Selwood is apparently quite a bit better than his brothers (who are pretty good anyway) so he could be an option. Jetta is explosive and could add something different to our side.

Thorp is a player I'd like to get if we go tall, may not be as ready made as the others but is still quality.

Hawk0373
27 Aug 2006, 20:02
Maybe draft positions should be defined by wher eu are on the ladder at round 16 or 18? would solve that problem...
yeah not bad, or...

9th - pick 1
10th - pick 2
16th - pick 3
15th - pick 4
11th - pick 5
12th - pick 6
13th - pick 7
14th - pick 8

easy fix - problem solved.

Nightwolf
27 Aug 2006, 20:47
Well done Port!:thumbsu:

philhawk
27 Aug 2006, 20:58
I'm kinda leaning towards a midfielder, a high quality one. The games we've been shut-down this year have been when Hodge, and Mitchell have gotten the heavy tags. If we can get another into our midfield rotation, meaning we can be more flexible with hodge (play half back with bursts in the middle) I think we would have a more balanced side and harder to match-up on.

Selwood is apparently quite a bit better than his brothers (who are pretty good anyway) so he could be an option. Jetta is explosive and could add something different to our side.

Thorp is a player I'd like to get if we go tall, may not be as ready made as the others but is still quality.

See I disagree with that cshreuder. It's an exaggeration, but midfielders are 'a dime a dozen' in my opinion, whereas quality KPP's are harder to find, particularly down the order. We should opt for the best KPP with our first pick and then go for the best available afterwards.

Without making any generalisations, we should also aim to recruit a quality young aboriginal midfielder with one of our later picks/rookie draft as we've seen in recent times with Pearse and Davey, they're invaluable to team structure.

If Nathan Djerukka slips low enough I say grab him with a 4th round pick. ;)

OneEyedHawk
27 Aug 2006, 21:19
See I disagree with that cshreuder. It's an exaggeration, but midfielders are 'a dime a dozen' in my opinion, whereas quality KPP's are harder to find, particularly down the order. We should opt for the best KPP with our first pick and then go for the best available afterwards.

Without making any generalisations, we should also aim to recruit a quality young aboriginal midfielder with one of our later picks/rookie draft as we've seen in recent times with Pearse and Davey, they're invaluable to team structure.

If Nathan Djerukka slips low enough I say grab him with a 4th round pick. ;)
I'd prefer a strong pack-marking tall also, with the best available mid with our second pick. I know the game is changing, but I still prefer a good tall over a small any day of the week. We've picked up some quailty talls the last 2 years, but those blokes aside, I see Croady as our only real genuine KPP, so I'd definately like to grab another one.

Is looking more like pick #5 now. Usually there's at least one surprise in the top 5, hopefully that's the case this year and we can still snare one of Gumbleton (highly unlikely), Hansen or Thorpe.

mulhollanddrive
28 Aug 2006, 00:36
I think the only area we've got covered ATM is inside midfielders, we've got Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis who all average or will average 20-25+ poss a game. So I don't think Selwood is necessary, even though he is right in our draft pick range.

I'm hoping that now we're going to get either pick 5-6 most likely that the top 4 isnt as concrete as it appears. (EG last year Hurn, Ryder, Clark drop down after being in the top bracket)

Was sceptical about Buckernara when he got appointed by the old board, but he's done his job very well as much as we can tell at this stage. I'd like either a KPP, or a quick A grade outside mid. Jetta doesn't appear to be rated top 6 atm, so maybe Sellar, Thorp, Riewoldt would be the go.

Albo's opinion
28 Aug 2006, 13:55
yeah not bad, or...

9th - pick 1
10th - pick 2
16th - pick 3
15th - pick 4
11th - pick 5
12th - pick 6
13th - pick 7
14th - pick 8

easy fix - problem solved.
imo, any system that has designated picks for positions is a problem and can be manipulated. I'm no expert but does the NBA have a lottery system? perhaps the teams that finish 16-13 could raffle picks 1-4, 12-9 raffle 5-8, 8-5 raffle 9-12, 4-1 raffle 13-16???
of course this means a team finishing 12th (us this year) could end up with pick 8 etc. but we may end up with a good one in the second round.
thoughts?

The TACHawks
29 Aug 2006, 14:07
yeah not bad, or...

9th - pick 1
10th - pick 2
16th - pick 3
15th - pick 4
11th - pick 5
12th - pick 6
13th - pick 7
14th - pick 8

easy fix - problem solved.

OR....
Do what they do in the US...raffle picks 1-8 for the botton 8???

Dr_Mutley
29 Aug 2006, 14:22
OR....
Do what they do in the US...raffle picks 1-8 for the botton 8???

i think the AFL should pay us for our ideas ;)




Without making any generalisations, we should also aim to recruit a quality young aboriginal midfielder with one of our later picks/rookie draft as we've seen in recent times with Pearse and Davey, they're invaluable to team structure.


agreed, although we havent had much luck in this regard yet have we? Bring back Willi Rioli i say lol...

would love to see harry miller make the step up... hes exciting when hes going.. albeit when hes going its usually for about 3mins a game :) /end sarcasm (just so u know phil)

having said that i am very glad we grabbed roughie and budy, and overlooked richard tambling.. i dont think he wouldve added anywhere near what these 2 will in the future...

Roughie
29 Aug 2006, 14:30
Jetta looks like he will be a Betts/Krakour being a small forward and then getting the occaisonal run in the middle, it seems like a big price to pay for a toss up position. Im sure we could use a 6th round pick for a small forward seeing they are not a high demand position.

I would like us to get Sellar/Thorp they both might be there at pick 6, or we could take a risk with Selwood who is touted to be the best midfielder in the draft but injury rubbed him out of the NAB championships.

Personally I would rather go tall with our first pick, then a good midfielder with our second pick like a Daniel Connors or a Brock O'Brien if they are still available.

Dixie Flatline
29 Aug 2006, 16:42
Take the best available with our pick.

Having said that, I'm leaning towards picking another KPP, because you can never have too many tall players (for example, handy for trades down the track if we have too many).

Jack-Packenham
29 Aug 2006, 16:47
OR....
Do what they do in the US...raffle picks 1-8 for the botton 8???

The hawks would get pick 1 if Spida was drawing the raffle !!!!

philhawk
29 Aug 2006, 16:49
Any way you look at it, we're in for a very, very good draft.

If we pick Jetta, we pick a pacy midfielder/crummer, something the team has genuinely missed for quite some time now.

If we pick Selwood, we possible pick the best pure midfielder in the draft who will, as the years go by (injury permitting), take the stress off Mitchell, Lewis, Ellis and Hodge make our midfield one of the best in the competition.

If we pick Sellar, we have a player with a huge scope for improvement (based on reports from others). A 195cm+ giant who is very, very mobile and not only could be an able replacement for Spida, but could allow Cambell to solely become a ruckman while Sellar moves up forward, occasionally pinch-hitting in the ruck.

If we pick Thorp, we could have a player who could hold down the Full-Back spot for the next 10 years and become a very, very integral part of the team.

In the words of Big Kev, "I'm excited!"