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blumfieldisback
27 Aug 2006, 23:56
How good could this kid be in the next few years, we could have a team that could be compared to Port Adelaide of 2004. When he gets some size about him and his skills improve just a tad we will have lovett and lovett murry, dempsey, cole, dyson, stanton gee theres some speed there, then ofcourse my fav monfries who is devloping game by game, expect big things from him if he has a good pre season.
Walls talks about opposition teams taking us on and over running us, well if we get a couple more midfielders then we will have the depth that todays teams need, we wont be overun come 2008.
wazzabp
28 Aug 2006, 00:33
Yeah hes got a bit of speed and confidence, will be great when hes got a reliable target to kick to also when Lloyd gets back next year.
Yeah hes got a bit of speed and confidence, will be great when hes got a reliable target to kick to also when Lloyd gets back next year.
He's definitely got the speed (I was very happy to see him spend a bit of time on Tambling, in which he matched him for pace), but at the moment I think his decision making could be a bit better. There were a couple of times when he seemed to panic and pass it to another one of our blokes who were under pressure.
But he's young, still plenty of time to develop that extra bit of poise.
wazzabp
28 Aug 2006, 01:42
He's definitely got the speed (I was very happy to see him spend a bit of time on Tambling, in which he matched him for pace), but at the moment I think his decision making could be a bit better. There were a couple of times when he seemed to panic and pass it to another one of our blokes who were under pressure.
But he's young, still plenty of time to develop that extra bit of poise.
Yeah have to agree with you. His panicing seemed to be because he couldn't see anyone leading and the forward line was crowded, so sort of got lost. Should have just banged it to the hot spot.
thebigboy
28 Aug 2006, 09:23
The guy's got some serious talent on him. Just needs to add some bulk to his frame IMO, and he will be a gun for us...
Longy413
28 Aug 2006, 10:31
He's definitely got the speed (I was very happy to see him spend a bit of time on Tambling, in which he matched him for pace), but at the moment I think his decision making could be a bit better. There were a couple of times when he seemed to panic and pass it to another one of our blokes who were under pressure.
But he's young, still plenty of time to develop that extra bit of poise.
I almost reckon he's been told to run with the ball at every opportunity and at times he ran himself into trouble.
Reminds me very much of what Brent Stanton was doing in his first 10-20 games. Bit of experience and he'll rectify that.
Darealrath
28 Aug 2006, 12:44
I like. I'm hoping he can be something like Pearce at Port. Both have very good agility and pace.
go_the_bombers
28 Aug 2006, 12:46
I like. I'm hoping he can be something like Pearce at Port. Both have very good agility and pace.
I was thinking the same Darealrath
blumfieldisback
28 Aug 2006, 12:55
yeah pearce or the burgoynes from port. He actually reminds me of michel long in 1989. I was a young fella back then but i remember a skinny kid who looked like he would get killed, getting the ball screaming down the wing and passing when he should have been having shots at goals. Seriously our team with a couple more additions will have pace to burn.
It took long 4 years to explode so im not placing any pressure on dempsey to perform yet, decision making comes with experience.
kelvin_sheedy
28 Aug 2006, 13:02
Yep, pace to burn, agile..etc
All he has to do is bulk up and learn how to kick the ball on the run.
You would think at the age of 19 that he could actually run at pace and kick the ball. I'm hoping that he can improve in that area allthough i have some reservations.
Longy413
28 Aug 2006, 13:04
He did something very, very special in a practice match against Sydney at Princes Park this year that I've seen few kids do in their first season, be it at practice match level or in the big time.
He's got something, actually he's got a lot.
How good could this kid be in the next few years, we could have a team that could be compared to Port Adelaide of 2004. When he gets some size about him and his skills improve just a tad we will have lovett and lovett murry, dempsey, cole, dyson, stanton gee theres some speed there, then ofcourse my fav monfries who is devloping game by game, expect big things from him if he has a good pre season.
Walls talks about opposition teams taking us on and over running us, well if we get a couple more midfielders then we will have the depth that todays teams need, we wont be overun come 2008.
add winderlich, jolley and aker:) to that also, we wont be overun come 2007
dodgyJim
28 Aug 2006, 13:37
He did something very, very special in a practice match against Sydney at Princes Park this year that I've seen few kids do in their first season, be it at practice match level or in the big time.
He's got something, actually he's got a lot.
That was an awesome run wasn't it.
That was an awesome run wasn't it.
It's also hard to finish the way he did sometimes when you run that far
He'll be the fleet footed gazelle we've been dreaming about. How skinny is the runt...feed the kid chicken and juice him up on protein. And while theyre at it, introduce another meal between breakfast and brunch.:thumbsu:
stander
28 Aug 2006, 14:18
He'll be the fleet footed gazelle we've been dreaming about. How skinny is the runt...feed the kid chicken and juice him up on protein. And while theyre at it, introduce another meal between breakfast and brunch.:thumbsu:
Make sure its not turtle meat.
daveyboy3
28 Aug 2006, 14:29
It's also hard to finish the way he did sometimes when you run that far
How long was his run?
How long was his run?
Straight through the middle of the ground from one 50m line to the other with about three swan midfielders trailing after him before slamming it through for a goal.
He looked on Saturday night like he did for Bendigo early in the season, before continuing with steady improvement throughout the season. I think he takes a little time to find the pace of the game at each level. His pace and agility are astonishing, he's got that extra bit of height that could make him interesting too.
jules101
28 Aug 2006, 14:52
He did something very, very special in a practice match against Sydney at Princes Park this year that I've seen few kids do in their first season, be it at practice match level or in the big time.
He's got something, actually he's got a lot.
yeah ran from back 50 through the midfield and kicked a goal from 50 not bad at all.
dodgyJim
28 Aug 2006, 15:25
I thought he ran from about the defensive 25 mark.
Then again everytime I talk about it he is further back each time :D
In a few weeks he will be taking the kick in and playing on :p
There was video footage of it floating around somewhere
blumfieldisback
28 Aug 2006, 15:38
add winderlich, jolley and aker:) to that also, we wont be overun come 2007
im sorry about this but no way is jolley going to be on our list next year, that guy is way to slow for AFL, good vfl player but theres a big difference between VFL and AFL, lonergan will be better then jolley.
The Dustbin
28 Aug 2006, 15:57
im sorry about this but no way is jolley going to be on our list next year, that guy is way to slow for AFL, good vfl player but theres a big difference between VFL and AFL, lonergan will be better then jolley.
Agree.
Agree.
You'd hope so. I think we really nailed a good 4th round pick with Lonergan, will add quite a bit to the midfield in a year or two
We still havent seen him at full tilt yet, he glides along in third gear and every know and then reaches for fourth. Even in that pratice game against sydney earlier this year he was only running as fast as he had to. I can't wait until he's forced to use those extra couple of gears he has up his sleeve.
Saint Corin
28 Aug 2006, 18:14
winderlich will be a very good player I think, very lean but if he slapped on the odd kg (not too many) could be very very good.. I'd be happy with Dempsey gettin more of the ball consistantly before i would offer fenesse about his use, but seems a likely type, but im on the winderlich bandwagon, even if i do go for saints...:D
Make sure its not turtle meat.
Just in case you split your own sides with this nugget of hilarity, I’m sorry to inform you that it has no comic merit.
blumfieldisback
28 Aug 2006, 22:46
winderlich will be a very good player I think, very lean but if he slapped on the odd kg (not too many) could be very very good.. I'd be happy with Dempsey gettin more of the ball consistantly before i would offer fenesse about his use, but seems a likely type, but im on the winderlich bandwagon, even if i do go for saints...:D
yeah u can have him then, you need him along with fiona
mcphee_is_a_gun
28 Aug 2006, 22:48
yeah u can have him then, you need him along with fiona
Winderlich will be a gun. Just needs an injury free run next year...
Longy413
28 Aug 2006, 22:49
yeah u can have him then, you need him along with fiona
If it's all the same to you, I reckon we should keep him.
blumfieldisback
29 Aug 2006, 10:45
If it's all the same to you, I reckon we should keep him.
yeah of course thats ok its your opinion and they have signed him to a 2 year deal didnt they which means they cant trade him but i dont think he will help us go forward but hey i was wrong with NLM
yeah of course thats ok its your opinion and they have signed him to a 2 year deal didnt they which means they cant trade him but i dont think he will help us go forward but hey i was wrong with NLM
You'll eat those words soon enough. When he's right, he works incredibly hard and even with his slight frame, does his utmost to cut through opposition lines...not to mention can kick a decent distance also.:thumbsu:
stander
29 Aug 2006, 14:33
Just in case you split your own sides with this nugget of hilarity, I’m sorry to inform you that it has no comic merit.
Thanks for taking the time out to respond Jexi.
No worries big fella, I trust you'd do the same for me.
blumfieldisback
30 Aug 2006, 14:23
You'll eat those words soon enough. When he's right, he works incredibly hard and even with his slight frame, does his utmost to cut through opposition lines...not to mention can kick a decent distance also.:thumbsu:
We Shall see who eats who's words for i think winderlich doesnt know how to get the ball, doesnt know what spots to run into and uses his speed to cover these flaws. If he wasnt quick and we didnt need more midfielders with quick feet he imo wouldnt be on our list. I just dont rate him, dont know why??? yet after seeing dyson and stanton in their first games i said they would be good, my richmond mate thought otherwise but he is eating his words now about them.
We Shall see who eats who's words for i think winderlich doesnt know how to get the ball, doesnt know what spots to run into and uses his speed to cover these flaws. If he wasnt quick and we didnt need more midfielders with quick feet he imo wouldnt be on our list. I just dont rate him, dont know why??? yet after seeing dyson and stanton in their first games i said they would be good, my richmond mate thought otherwise but he is eating his words now about them.
I'm sure if he didn't have feet he wouldn't be on our list either, so talking about him missing his major asset and how he wouldn't be on the list without it is kind of irrelevant - since he does have it.
We Shall see who eats who's words for i think winderlich doesnt know how to get the ball, doesnt know what spots to run into and uses his speed to cover these flaws. If he wasnt quick and we didnt need more midfielders with quick feet he imo wouldnt be on our list. I just dont rate him, dont know why??? yet after seeing dyson and stanton in their first games i said they would be good, my richmond mate thought otherwise but he is eating his words now about them.
Pretty hard to run into those correct spots when hes out for whatever reason...I like his workrate and the fact he never drops his head. Will take many on, regardless of their status in the comp and backs himself in for that long kick into our forward 50....just like Stanton. I would also imagine being on our list for a few years that he'd set a good example for players like Dyson to kick long and back themselves in.
blumfieldisback
31 Aug 2006, 16:24
on that logic if a guys the best handball or kicker you would have him in the side, regardless of him being able to get the actual ball??? thats pretty silly logic to me.
The only reason he got some of the ball this year is because the game has evolved to rebound footy where players run around like headless chooks, they dont have any footy brains, when and is someone pays him atention he wont have a clue what to do. Scott West is the opposite, not fast but knows wheres to run and get the ball to cause maximum damage
He was getting the ball, using well and using his pace before he got injured, hence the 2 year deal, will be quite handy in the future
Longy413
31 Aug 2006, 16:39
Winderlich also wins his own ball, which is why he is so important going forward.
He can win his own ball and has pace, it's rare.
on that logic if a guys the best handball or kicker you would have him in the side, regardless of him being able to get the actual ball??? thats pretty silly logic to me.
The only reason he got some of the ball this year is because the game has evolved to rebound footy where players run around like headless chooks, they dont have any footy brains, when and is someone pays him atention he wont have a clue what to do. Scott West is the opposite, not fast but knows wheres to run and get the ball to cause maximum damage
Poor comparison...Scotty West gets most of his possessions in and under packs....feeds them out to this running teammates...sure, he's not speedy, but with his disposals...he's the best in the business in terms of speed.
Be that as it may with the game evolving...you just contradicted yourself in that the game is tailored to his running ability. He actually does have a football brain and when he finally has an injury free season...he'll be every it as useful as Watson is to us...make no mistake about that.
Theres an article you might want to read in the Bomber magazine on Winders and Quinn makes some interesting points about this kid's potential.
Philzsay
31 Aug 2006, 16:48
I thought he ran from about the defensive 25 mark.
Then again everytime I talk about it he is further back each time :D
In a few weeks he will be taking the kick in and playing on :p
There was video footage of it floating around somewhere
The footage of it is still on bombertv. Go to Channel 2, last page Ess V Syd 4th Quarter, his run and goal occurs at the 3 minute mark. The goal was as how Jules101 described it, recieved the ball at the defenseive 50, ran to the forward 50 where he slotted the goal. It was exciting to watch on the day!