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banzai
31 Aug 2006, 19:26
Just on 7 news that Kellaway has been told by the club to consider retirement and that he isnt guarenteed a spot on the list next season. It was mentioned that he was offered a farewell game on saturday.

TheBacko
31 Aug 2006, 19:30
i don't know what is going thru the minds of terry & co., but kellaway is a player that we must have on our list for 2007.

Calcium Man
31 Aug 2006, 19:31
excuse me if i dont take Craig "Hutchy" Hutchison's word for gospel.

Would be disappointing if they got rid of AK he still offers a lot.

If he was to be moved on would his surfing incident have anything to do with it??

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 19:41
i don't know what is going thru the minds of terry & co., but kellaway is a player that me must have on our list for 2007.


Maybe as they have a younger backman ready to go .

Calcium Man
31 Aug 2006, 19:45
Maybe as they have a younger backman ready to go .
Who???

AK is the tiger version on Basset for the crows. Will go where angels fear to tred, and then offload to a Bowden or Raines. I think he is a very important member of our backline still.

jackson_rules
31 Aug 2006, 19:46
im looking at this 2 day atm, the polak rumours could be true and terry thinks polak will replace him. Or hutchy read these boards last nite and saw a couple of threads on here

Calcium Man
31 Aug 2006, 19:51
im looking at this 2 day atm, the polak rumours could be true and terry thinks polak will replace him. Or hutchy read these boards last nite and saw a couple of threads on here

I reackon Hutchy has been reading our board. AK is a third tall, can pinch hit as KPP backman, but at his best as the third tall. So replacing him directly with Polak makes little sense.

banzai
31 Aug 2006, 19:51
im looking at this 2 day atm, the polak rumours could be true and terry thinks polak will replace him. Or hutchy read these boards last nite and saw a couple of threads on here

Raines Thursfield Newman
P Bowden Polak J Bowden

They might keep Gaspar for one more in case Thursfield doesnt recover in time. We will have awesome run out of defence. Also Hartigan and JON can run off half back, Joel on the 3rd tall, it looks ok.

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 20:11
im looking at this 2 day atm, the polak rumours could be true and terry thinks polak will replace him. Or hutchy read these boards last nite and saw a couple of threads on here


Really we have to ask ourselves. If Polak was to be at tigerland next year inplace of Kellaway. Would you then take it. As who knows it may already be a done deal?

rfctigerarmy
31 Aug 2006, 20:13
Getting rid of a true Tiger who isnt the worst on our list (COUGH RAY HALL COUGH) is absolutely disgraceful. I cant believe Kellaway's name even came back. He's been quite good this year, I thought.

Hutchy can go jump in the lake aswell ;)

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 20:19
Getting rid of a true Tiger who isnt the worst on our list (COUGH RAY HALL COUGH) is absolutely disgraceful. I cant believe Kellaway's name even came back. He's been quite good this year, I thought.

Hutchy can go jump in the lake aswell ;)

How high do you want him to Jump? As face it there is truth in this which will most likely come out tomorrow.

Kellaway an Emergency will come in for the final game.

The Dice Man
31 Aug 2006, 20:29
:( but inevitable.

We better be holding onto 1 or 2 of AK or Gas for next year, but reading between the lines it's pretty clear Richmond believe they have some KP backmen lined up and all but signed.


I hope it's not the end for Andy, but if it must be thanks for the memories, for all your courage and all the blood you bled for the RFC.

You're a champ:thumbsu:

tigerdan
31 Aug 2006, 20:32
Will believe it when I see it.

Silly to go axing a player when nothing can be certain about proposed deals.

Polak could break his leg.
We could get fined picks for being over the cap.
Freo could get a better offer somewhere else.

Surely Gaspar has less of an up side than AK at this moment in time.

If we have hung him out to dry I will be shat off if the master plans behind the scenes do not come to fruition. Perhaps just a ploy to get him to agree to minimal payments for next year. Risky strategy...

banzai
31 Aug 2006, 20:41
Surely Gaspar has less of an up side than AK at this moment in time.

Gaspar plays KP though, AK hasn't since Wallace came to the club. I also believe that Gaspar can go onto the veterans list, therefore not taking up a spot for a young kid, i dont think Kellaway qualifies for the veterans list (will stand corrected). This would have been factored in when deciding which of them to keep.

The Dice Man
31 Aug 2006, 20:52
AK debuted in 98, making 2007 his tenth season at the club.

Not sure how that relates to veteran list qualification....???

Richo83
31 Aug 2006, 20:54
Raines Thursfield Newman
P Bowden Polak J Bowden

They might keep Gaspar for one more in case Thursfield doesnt recover in time. We will have awesome run out of defence. Also Hartigan and JON can run off half back, Joel on the 3rd tall, it looks ok.

Can't see Polak being our CHB, especially as he expressed his wish not to play there. Why would we play a player at CHB that is iffy as a player and a person and doesn't want to play there?

Madtiger2006
31 Aug 2006, 21:03
Kellaway is one our best players. I'll be angry if we delist him

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 21:04
I can't believe the club would feel they have a done deal to bring someone in already, there are just too many variables and therefore too much risk to be telling someone to pack their bags at this stage.

Crumden
31 Aug 2006, 21:21
Paddy Bowden's form in the backline has effectively been the death knell for Kellaway. Bowden is not as courageous or as strong in the air, but he creates a lot more offensive opportunities. Thanks for being a great clubman Chubba, but time and the team move on. There's only so many "third talls" you can have in the team.

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 21:28
Paddy Bowden's form in the backline has effectively been the death knell for Kellaway. Bowden is not as courageous or as strong in the air, but he creates a lot more offensive opportunities. Thanks for being a great clubman Chubba, but time and the team move on. There's only so many "third talls" you can have in the team.

Even with Kellaway and Bowden and Bowden and Thursfield and Gaspar we are lacking depth. We've seen what happens when we get a couple of injuries.

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 21:32
Kellaway is one our best players. I'll be angry if we delist him

He wont be delisted. He will Retire there is a difference :P

Darth_Tiger
31 Aug 2006, 21:32
Can't see Polak being our CHB, especially as he expressed his wish not to play there. Why would we play a player at CHB that is iffy as a player and a person and doesn't want to play there?

maybe he has been told that when richo 'retires' to the goal square that they will move him to chf. everybody reckons shulz is a forward but i still reckon he could be a damn good centre half back.

Darth_Tiger
31 Aug 2006, 21:34
Even with Kellaway and Bowden and Bowden and Thursfield and Gaspar we are lacking depth. We've seen what happens when we get a couple of injuries.

getting rid of him would be madness. hutchinson is full of crap anyway.

Crumden
31 Aug 2006, 21:43
Even with Kellaway and Bowden and Bowden and Thursfield and Gaspar we are lacking depth. We've seen what happens when we get a couple of injuries.That's why we'll probably be stuck with keeping Hall. Kellaway isn't going to want to be a depth player, playing at Coburg until we get some injuries. He's too good a player for that. Someone like Hall, on the other hand, isn't going to keep a good player out of the team but can fill in when called upon. When Gaspar and Bowden were both fit our backline got unbalanced because we had Gaspar, the Bowdens, Kellaway all in. At one stage I think we also had Hall in with all those others. If Kellaway was prepared to play on at a low wage and on the understanding that he may not be getting a game each week, then maybe. But I'd rather make the cuts to the list to the players who are close to the end rather than the ones who are starting out.

Madtiger2006
31 Aug 2006, 21:56
He wont be delisted. He will Retire there is a difference :P

you mean he is being told to retire 3 years too early or he will get delisted? This sounds like a poor rumour. If it was true it would be as stupid as telling Richo to rest every 2nd game, so we can give some young forwards some game time

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 21:58
That's why we'll probably be stuck with keeping Hall. Kellaway isn't going to want to be a depth player, playing at Coburg until we get some injuries. He's too good a player for that. Someone like Hall, on the other hand, isn't going to keep a good player out of the team but can fill in when called upon. When Gaspar and Bowden were both fit our backline got unbalanced because we had Gaspar, the Bowdens, Kellaway all in. At one stage I think we also had Hall in with all those others. If Kellaway was prepared to play on at a low wage and on the understanding that he may not be getting a game each week, then maybe. But I'd rather make the cuts to the list to the players who are close to the end rather than the ones who are starting out.

I'd rather keep them based on talent.

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 22:03
I'd rather keep them based on talent.

Your not talking about Gasper here. As face is there is not much talent going his way. Run Gasper run, Chase him down dont bloody just stand there :(

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 22:08
Your not talking about Gasper here. As face is there is not much talent going his way. Run Gasper run, Chase him down dont bloody just stand there :(

And now in English?

cairo tiger
31 Aug 2006, 22:14
maybe got one good year left if lucky, it is part of tw plan...

Truetiger
31 Aug 2006, 22:16
And now in English?

you said the word Talent and I see Gaspers name up there? I hope you are not telling me that he has Talent as he dont.

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 22:27
you said the word Talent and I see Gaspers name up there? I hope you are not telling me that he has Talent as he dont.

Yes he does, you simply refuse to recognise it. But more importantly, if not Gaspar, who?

banzai
31 Aug 2006, 22:48
Yes he does, you simply refuse to recognise it. But more importantly, if not Gaspar, who?

Well if we keep him, who will come in when he's injured for half the season? He has struggled badly with injury this season, his form will steadily get worse each season as he gets older, he has to be replaced soon.

jezza
31 Aug 2006, 22:57
Well if we keep him, who will come in when he's injured for half the season? He has struggled badly with injury this season, his form will steadily get worse each season as he gets older, he has to be replaced soon.

If we get rid of him who will play for the whole season? Where is this magical replacement everyone is talking about?

banzai
31 Aug 2006, 23:18
If we get rid of him who will play for the whole season? Where is this magical replacement everyone is talking about?

Dont think there is a magical replacement unfortunelty, but they wont get rid of him unless they have a plan. We have won 9/13 games and this week we will make it 10/14 games when Gaspar has not played. Wallace likes players that can run and use the ball well, rather than key position players. If Thursfield doesnt come up and we dont get Polak, i guess we will play the same as this season with Joel at FB.

metallichris
31 Aug 2006, 23:34
Maybe as they have a younger backman ready to go.
Clearly we don't.

jezza
1 Sep 2006, 00:00
Which FF's has Joel played on this year? I can only think of a couple. And how much does playing at FB detract from his attacking game? And who will replace Bowden if there's an injury? The point I keep trying to make is we don't have enough depth right now and there isn't a natural succession in place at the club already. So why would we weaken our position further? We should be looking to bring someone else in on top of keeping Gaspar if anything.

It probably won't happen, but keeping Gaspar makes perfect sense to me. Should come reasonably cheap, won't take a spot on the list away from anyone else, provides us with the depth and cover that we need in that position and can help to bring on the young guys that will eventually take over.

I agree that we need to go forward as a club and Gaspar isn't part of the long term future. But the problem is poor list management in the past has left us where we aren't really in a position to cut these guys and still be able to move up. Until I see a plan in place to go forward without these guys I won't be convinced.

I look at our list and with no Kellaway and Gaspar, I see only the Bowden, Bowden, Hall, Thursfield, Schulz, McGuane and Moore as key defenders. With no Stafford next season, I think we're really going to need Schulz as a forward otherwise we'll be back to the dark old days of Richo double-teams. Thursfield coming back from a knee, no guarantees there. P. Bowden has shown some glimpses this year like the Brisbane game, but in the vast, vast majority of games he is a flanker, not a key defender. Hall? If we're relying week in week out on Ray to be a key defender we're not going forward. A squad player for depth, that is all. Moore? No guarantees he'll be around, let alone be healthy and make an impact. McGuane? A forward naturally, and still not ready physically for AFL.

Shows how limited we are and what impact an injury or two would have. Add Kellaway and Gaspar to that list for one more season and suddenly things look a bit better.

local
1 Sep 2006, 00:04
Just on 7 news that Kellaway has been told by the club to consider retirement and that he isnt guarenteed a spot on the list next season. It was mentioned that he was offered a farewell game on saturday.

Is named as a emergency.

Infamy
1 Sep 2006, 00:22
I'll consider not getting a membership next year if Kellaway goes. Gaspar's knee is clearly not going to hold up to a full season as he's 30 with cartilidge problems. We'll be back in the bottom 4-6 next year without Chubba & Gas.

diggler
1 Sep 2006, 00:41
As brave as Kellaway and Gaspar have been, they have been prime offenders in a decade of misery at that club.
If the club wants to move forward and remove itself from mediocrity, I say farewell and good riddans!!!

Rancid_Beasties
1 Sep 2006, 01:10
You are so full of shyte if you think Kellaway and Gaspar have not been the prime offenders in a decade of misery! As crud as Gaspar is now, we all forget how good he was at the start of last year, and that before that he was even better, at one stage (2001) undoubtedly the best full back in the league hence AA selection....let me name a few players that, in the last 10 years or so have been prime offenders:

Royce Vardy, Clinton King, Billy Nicholls, Tim Fleming, Marc Dragacevic, David Bourke, Ben Holland, Aaron James, Justin Plapp, Aaron Fiora, Ty Zantuck, Craig Biddiscombe, Rory Hilton, Justin Blumfield, Adam Houlihan, Shane Morrison, Simon Fletcher, Ben Marsh....the names go on.

All these guys were either complete hacks we drafted from other clubs, or we kept them on too long, or had reoccuring injuries and yet we kept them. Meanwhile, Gaspar and Kellaway were both standouts in our darkest moments. So well may you tie them to an era of failure, but keep in mind that they are both AA players, they are both champions, and a decision to get rid of them must be made carefully and with regard to exactly how much these guys do contribute...just because they aren't playing as well as they used to doesnt mean they aren't better than half of our youngsters at this stage. Giving the young guys games without pressure will eventually backfire.

Now as to whether to keep them both...I think the answer is to keep both, Gaspar to go onto the veterans list, too tempting to pass up, and Chubb still has alot to offer even as a 3rd tall.

Wally Matera
1 Sep 2006, 03:40
Getting rid of a true Tiger who isnt the worst on our list (COUGH RAY HALL COUGH) is absolutely disgraceful. I cant believe Kellaway's name even came back. He's been quite good this year, I thought.

Hutchy can go jump in the lake aswell ;)

Agree 100%!

If Kellaway goes and Hall, Roach, Gasper and Rodan do not... then Wallace is retarded. Simple as that.

What gets me and rubs me up the wrong way is that on Wallace's arrival he states clearly that he wants to build a team of 10 year servants to the club. Drafting our own and watching them grow. There is only one bloke l would pay more respect to on their retirement (The Big Galoof - Richo) than Kellaway.

Weaver
1 Sep 2006, 08:56
If Kellaway goes so that Moore can be offered a new deal I would be devastated. Kellaway has played good footy this year and is clearly still capable.

The Dice Man
1 Sep 2006, 11:58
So its come to this.

This is minefield territory for Terry I feel, as keeping certain players on the list while Chubba gets a steady push out the door will not go down too well with large sections of the Tiger fanatical.

The Match Committee know better than most of us, probably all of us and it is inevitable that some will have to clear out for the influx of new draftees next season.

I believe there's a year left each for Gas and AK, maybe Terry does too, but perhaps he's caught between a rock and a hard place by the need to free up 6 or 7 spots on the list.

Absolute tragedy if AK goes, while a Rodan keeps his spot simply because we caved in to a 2 year contract last season.

Both AK and Gas have more to offer our list than Rodan.... MUCH, much more IMO.

Interesting to see Tommy Roach named too. Im presuming this to be his do-or-die match?

tigerdan
1 Sep 2006, 12:13
So its come to this.

This is minefield territory for Terry I feel, as keeping certain players on the list while Chubba gets a steady push out the door will not go down too well with large sections of the Tiger fanatical.

The Match Committee know better than most of us, probably all of us and it is inevitable that some will have to clear out for the influx of new draftees next season.

I believe there's a year left each for Gas and AK, maybe Terry does too, but perhaps he's caught between a rock and a hard place by the need to free up 6 or 7 spots on the list.

Absolute tragedy if AK goes, while a Rodan keeps his spot simply because we caved in to a 2 year contract last season.

Both AK and Gas have more to offer our list than Rodan.... MUCH, much more IMO.

Interesting to see Tommy Roach named too. Im presuming this to be his do-or-die match?

Agree with you DM.

At least with line ball guys like Jackson we have the option to delist and rookie (provided they are not too old).

I don't mind games being played in trade week, but if we show our hand in Rd 22 and retire AK (and to a lesser extent Gaspar) we leave ourselves open to being outflanked by other teams in trade week.

Worst case scenario we'd not be able to get anyone to replace them for next year, or have to embarassingly beg them to re-sign.

I can only hope this is a silly little game they are playing to get them to re-sign on minimal salaries. I'm not so fussed about offering Gaspar little (because he has been very well looked after by Richmond) but it is an insult to AK to string him along like this.

The Dice Man
1 Sep 2006, 12:19
Agree, AK deserves alot better.

tugga
1 Sep 2006, 12:23
I, for one, would be absolutely shatted if Chubba got shoved. he is clearly capable of playing on, and in a year where we have made strides forward, I would consider this a slap in the face to a true tiger warrior.

itsintheblood
1 Sep 2006, 12:30
I, for one, would be absolutely shatted if Chubba got shoved. he is clearly capable of playing on, and in a year where we have made strides forward, I would consider this a slap in the face to a true tiger warrior.

Terry is clearly targeting players who cannot hit a target. Sadly, chubba is only a slightly better version of his brother in terms of disposal.

I for one am glad we're flushing out the culprits.

jezza
1 Sep 2006, 12:31
Terry is clearly targeting players who cannot hit a target. Sadly, chubba is only a slightly better version of his brother in terms of disposal.

I for one am glad we're flushing out the culprits.

Kellaway's kicking is underrated.

Bojangles17
1 Sep 2006, 12:38
Terry is clearly targeting players who cannot hit a target. Sadly, chubba is only a slightly better version of his brother in terms of disposal.

I for one am glad we're flushing out the culprits.

thats actually bullsh$#, if you refer to a recent footy record his effective disposals would rank higher than league average.

He is a terrific backman that reads the play exceptionally well and matches it with the courage of a lion.

Ive said many times before that premierships are built on blokes like Kellaway, it dissapoints me greatly to see him leave the game too soon and I have NO doubt that a club will pick him up for a year or so.

With little in the way of options coming through, I sincerely hope that common sense prevails and he remains a tiger for another year

The Dice Man
1 Sep 2006, 12:41
Kellaway's kicking is underrated.


Not that he's lined up for too many goals, but I cant ever recall him missing a set shot on goal.

I remember this because I always expect him to miss because of a perception, but he always nails em from what I recall.

Long Live Chubba!:D

tugga
1 Sep 2006, 12:45
Terry is clearly targeting players who cannot hit a target. Sadly, chubba is only a slightly better version of his brother in terms of disposal.

I for one am glad we're flushing out the culprits.
So we target blokes who can't kick and just get rid of them with nobody being able to step up in his absence?
Who is going to come in to fill the void? To back into packs and put his body on the line? McGuane? Don't make me laugh. Thursfield? Has played a handful of senior games. I'll rate this kid when he strings some games together and shows ME that he is capable of playing at AFL level long-term. Everyone here talks Thursfield up like he's played 60 games already and has finished top 5 in our B&F.
Why push a bloke out who is clearly capable of playing two more good seasons? And as far as his kicking is concerned, everyone just lumps Chubba into the D. Kellaway and Gaspar category. His kicking is not that bad. Also, never misses a goal from a set shot.
So by all means, let's just get rid of Gaspar and Kellaway immediately and have Hall, Thursfield and McGuane holding up our defence next year.

ata40
1 Sep 2006, 13:01
Kellaway has been probably the only veteran defenders who has tried to learn our new run and carry football. His courage and overhead marking has been further highlighted this year however this may not be enough.

I think TW is thinking that Gasper on the veterans list is a no brainer. He will be handy just as an old fashioned full-time stopper on the likes of the 195cm FF. This releases B1 to take the second forward or if up to it Thursfield. With B1 and B2 plus Raines all playing attacking roles in defence there is only one spot left to be shared between Newman, Hartigan, McGuane, JON, Polo, Shultz, Hall etc.

Depth and experience may still be an issue, but at best with the ongoing development Kellaway would become obsolete by the end of next year anyway, and if we recruit the likes of a Polak then this argument gets louder.

Fair………no, Visionary………..yes!

Bojangles17
1 Sep 2006, 13:18
So by all means, let's just get rid of Gaspar and Kellaway immediately and have Hall, Thursfield and McGuane holding up our defence next year.

spot ON tugg, that prospect should be enough for TW to wake in fright, for petes sake, we'll take 10 paces back with that as our last line of defence....Gherig, tredrea, LLoyd, Hall & Fev , come on down, will be just like yesteryear with Johnny "rotten" Manton at FB, party time the opposition would say

Parabola
1 Sep 2006, 13:34
He would be a great role model for the younger backmen coming through next year.
He's still one of the toughest, hardest and most disciplined defenders in the comp. Players like the Kellaway brothers don't come by very often. If TW does delist him at the end of the year I think it will be a mistake.
I understand he will have to go at some point or another, but he deserves to go out on his own terms.
The courage and sacrifice this man has given to the Richmond footy club can't be measured. An absolute travesty if he is simply dropped from sight.

sante
1 Sep 2006, 14:30
If it has to be one of Gaspar and Kellaway, I would like to see AK stay on cause I believe Gaspar's injuries will haunt him if he goes on but for structure Gas is the man IMO. We don't have many tall backmen and AK is a 3rd tall, Gas can play on the bigger forwards.

AK has more to offer us in 2007 but if Gaspar retires we only have Hall and Joel as tall defenders and we want Joel to play AK's role. It will definately be one or the other and it will be sad no matter who retires.

Both have been great players over the years for us...good luck in the future to them both, whether they retire or not in 2006.

Big Punt
1 Sep 2006, 16:18
This does not sound good for AK...........

Kellaway future unclear
1:18:14 PM Fri 1 September, 2006
Jason Phelan
Sportal for afl.com.au
Senior players Mark Chaffey and Greg Stafford will bid farewell to the Tiger faithful when Richmond takes on West Coast at the MCG on Saturday, but the future of Andrew Kellaway still hangs in the balance.

Terry Wallace refused to buy into the speculation surrounding the 30-year-old and fellow tall defender Darren Gaspar on Friday, but admitted Kellaway's future in the yellow-and-black was far from assured.

"We've had a conversation and I said that I couldn't guarantee him a contract for next season and we needed to see how things pan out - you've got to wait until after round 22 for these situations," Wallace said after training at Punt Road.

"I haven't seen any other coaches speaking publicly about the future of their players, so I don't see why I should be doing exactly that. There's been speculation obviously in the press, but we go through a process.

"We had two blokes retire this week and we'll respect (they've) gone down that pathway and then the other guys, we'll deal with them early next week. It's a normal process that takes place and we'll stick with that process."


Kellaway was named as emergency for the match, but has not played since a surfing mishap outed him over a month ago. Andrew Krakouer continues to struggle with an ankle injury, but even if he is a late withdrawal, Kellaway is no certainty to come in for a possible last hurrah.

"I'm not sure even where Andy's at - he hasn't played for five weeks - he's got through his training sessions, but (I don't know) whether he's been able to get up to full steam training," Wallace continued.

"Until I go in and speak to the medical staff and speak to him as well, I don't know whether he'd be putting his hand up to play if there was a change or whether he won't until I have that chat with the medical staff."

Darth_Tiger
1 Sep 2006, 16:18
i reckon ak could hold down full back. i have never seen him not stand up to a challenge and it seems the greater the challenge he is given the better he plays. would prefer him over gaspar as his attacking ability is one of his strengths as a player. and yes he is a good kick.

jezza
1 Sep 2006, 16:36
i reckon ak could hold down full back. i have never seen him not stand up to a challenge and it seems the greater the challenge he is given the better he plays. would prefer him over gaspar as his attacking ability is one of his strengths as a player. and yes he is a good kick.

I'm not so sure, when Gaspar was out with his knee Chubb was forced to play more on the 1st forward and his own form suffered a bit.

archibald
1 Sep 2006, 17:39
Have to keep Kellaway. If we dont its a disgrace. Why arnt we talking about Ray Hall here? i really dont understand, we need chubb and gasper for that matter until the young guys (thursfield, hughes, shultz, mcguane) develop properly. People have to remember Thursfield wont be the messiah next year or even the year after. If chubb goes, i go!

Bojangles17
1 Sep 2006, 17:51
i reckon ak could hold down full back. .

No he couldnt , not quite quick enough off the mark and one on one isnt his strength....

rfctigerarmy
1 Sep 2006, 17:54
If chubb goes, i go!
You wont go... :cool:

archibald
1 Sep 2006, 22:35
You wont go... :cool:
Unfortunately your right, im not a man of my word but i do like to sound like a big tough guy...:D

Wally Matera
2 Sep 2006, 02:51
Kellaway is GAWN!

Think about it, TW has categorically stated that he will not guarentee Chubba's spot. After the service the he has (and continues to!!!) provided the RFC, why the hell would the poor bloke want to stay.

If l was treated like that, l'd be ringing other clubs as we speak. Could see him fitting perfectly into a Geelong or Melbourne side. Paul Roos loves backmen like AK, wouldnt be surprised if he gets a call from the Swannies.

Tell you what, TW has acted poorly in this case. He wasnt even on my radar (not even close) for not being part of the club in 2007.

You want to start a clean TW, start with this joker -

TOMMY ROACH

Here we are kicking one of the most couragous blokes we've ever had out and keeping this soft little pansy!

mini_me316
2 Sep 2006, 04:04
I think that Thomas Roach is lined up to play in the backline next year.
He will play as a tagger tommorow against the Eagles but has been tried in the backline a few times in the VFL, so with all of you people saying that maybe we have found a backman maybe its Tom.

And for all of you people bagging him he will turn 21 tommorow against the Eagles so give him a break he isn't an old player for christ sake, Moore got longer than he has and Moore is a dud.

Terry Tan
2 Sep 2006, 09:24
I wouldn't believe everything that jerk "Hutchy" says. Remember how wrong he got it with Kosi and the rape allegations. "Hutchy" is a fat bull crap artist, just listen to his garbage on AW.

As for AK aka Chubba aka The Killer, he will be at Tigerland next year. TW is too smart to realise that injuries occur (refer this year) and a player like AK is gold.

There's plenty that should go before AK - try Moore, Rodan, Knobel, Tivendale, Jackson.

But I don't think we'll be hearing an apology from "Hutchy" when AK stays.

The Dice Man
2 Sep 2006, 11:04
In today's HUN Terry says...


Wallace said Kellaway wasn't the only Tiger whose tenure at Punt Rd was unclear.

"We've got a couple of blokes . . . Tommy Roach is probably playing for his footy survival to stay on the list," he said.

"You've got Cam Howat who has come off a rookie list, so where does he sit?


Surely he isnt implying that Howat's position isnt secure?

rfctigerarmy
2 Sep 2006, 11:11
He might just want to give Cam a bit of a rev up.

I'm sure Howat will be on the list next year.

jezza
2 Sep 2006, 11:16
re Howat, it's all about whether we promote him or keep him on the rookie list for another season. That's the only decision to be made.

The Dice Man
2 Sep 2006, 11:17
He better bloody be! Love the cut of Howat's gib!

Does anyone else get the vibe that this is the most important trade and draft period since TW arrived at the club?

Before now it was pretty obvious who had to go, but now there's contraversy and potential minefields all over the shop.


The careers, and decision to be made re Gas and AK is a minefield.

Polak is one hell of a smokey, cloudy minefield.

Aker is a minefield.

Tommy Roach is a minefield... in that he hasnt had much of a chance to show what he's got this year, we could delist or trade and he could do a 'Rainsey' or a 'Tucky' at another club next year.