View Full Version : Well done Teddy...
Was unlucky not to get more games at the Dons, and now he's off to a Preliminary Final. All the best.
Bomberz_pacers07
9 Sep 2006, 23:25
good on him....im more happy that we got a 1st rnd pick(Dempsey) for him though. Still dont know how we got away with that
philhawk
9 Sep 2006, 23:39
Richards is a GUN!
Definitely worth a first rounder. :thumbsu:
Williams02
10 Sep 2006, 01:03
Richards is a GUN!
Definitely worth a first rounder. :thumbsu:
Massive Call
The Dustbin
10 Sep 2006, 08:52
Was unlucky not to get more games at the Dons, and now he's off to a Preliminary Final. All the best.
Thanks Teddy for Courtenay Dempsey. Teddy at best was a good VFL player, he was given plenty of opportunity at Essendon to establish himself.
He had to compete with Solly, Wellman, Fletch, Lucas and even Bradley for the KPP. Wasn't up to it.
Hasn't set the world on fire this year at Sydney, has been no great loss.
Great work by EFC to get Dempsey..... :thumbsu:
Jimmy Gwilt
10 Sep 2006, 11:10
Was unlucky not to get more games at the Dons, and now he's off to a Preliminary Final. All the best.
yes good point magrim everyone loves teddy at bomberland still and i along with u wish him all the best
Jimmy Gwilt
10 Sep 2006, 11:12
Richards is a GUN!
Definitely worth a first rounder. :thumbsu:
i thinku will find philhawk was takin the pis5 - lol
if not then:eek: :eek:
Was unlucky not to get more games at the Dons, and now he's off to a Preliminary Final. All the best.
I dont go along with the unlucky B.S , Ted wasnt ready physically before last season to play every week. He only played ten games last year but he cost himself 4 by squibbing it against the Lions when Brown was running at him.
I like Ted , i was annoyed that he left because he showed in the last 8 weeks and the VFL finals that he was going to be ok as a second/third tall. Overall we did well from it as Ted wasnt really worth a first rounder even though he was what the Swans needed.
Good on him for playing most of the year. He hasnt been a star and he still makes some errors but he has done well.At the end of the day if he stayed we still would have had 3 1/2 wins for the year.
philhawk
10 Sep 2006, 12:00
I'll explain,
In my mind, a first round pick being traded is worth as much as what the player offers to the team in contrast. Richards has been a very good acquisition for the Swans - and has even provided another Ruck option when the Swans have been struck down with injury.
Obviously i'm not saying Dempsey wont be a good player, but Richards is worth the pick Sydney traded him for.
Audemars Piguet
10 Sep 2006, 15:25
I'll explain,
In my mind, a first round pick being traded is worth as much as what the player offers to the team in contrast. Richards has been a very good acquisition for the Swans - and has even provided another Ruck option when the Swans have been struck down with injury.
Obviously i'm not saying Dempsey wont be a good player, but Richards is worth the pick Sydney traded him for.
Yeh, and Hay was worth 2 picks aswell.
Yes, Sydney needed a player like Richards at the time.
But who is to say they wont need a player like Dempsey in 5 years when they lack onballers?
If they win the premiership again with a significant contribution from Richards, then the sacrifice is justified. However, this is almost impossible.
I dont go along with the unlucky B.S , Ted wasnt ready physically before last season to play every week. He only played ten games last year but he cost himself 4 by squibbing it against the Lions when Brown was running at him.
I like Ted , i was annoyed that he left because he showed in the last 8 weeks and the VFL finals that he was going to be ok as a second/third tall. Overall we did well from it as Ted wasnt really worth a first rounder even though he was what the Swans needed.
Good on him for playing most of the year. He hasnt been a star and he still makes some errors but he has done well.At the end of the day if he stayed we still would have had 3 1/2 wins for the year.
I'm not saying he would have been a great difference for us, or that he's been a world-beater at Sydney... just a simple, honest congrats for him finally finding some sort of niche in the footy world.
GrayNicolls
10 Sep 2006, 16:43
has improved out of sight in the past month
still plenty of room for improvement but he's proving to be a very handy player for our team balance at the moment - has just got to back himself a bit more and not have that "rabbit in the headlight" look when he has the pill
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 20:07
Thanks Teddy for Courtenay Dempsey. Teddy at best was a good VFL player, he was given plenty of opportunity at Essendon to establish himself.
He had to compete with Solly, Wellman, Fletch, Lucas and even Bradley for the KPP. Wasn't up to it.
Hasn't set the world on fire this year at Sydney, has been no great loss.
Great work by EFC to get Dempsey..... :thumbsu:\
You cannot be fair dinkum.
He couldnt get a game at your club.
Played everygame at the swans and will probably play in a grand final.
Cannot see the likes of Solly and co playing in a grand Final let alone a final in the next 5 years! Sheedy crusified him !
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 20:28
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You cannot be fair dinkum.
He couldnt get a game at your club.
Played everygame at the swans and will probably play in a grand final.
Cannot see the likes of Solly and co playing in a grand Final let alone a final in the next 5 years! Sheedy crusified him !
I'm amazed that you've watched every Essendon and Bendigo game over the past few years.
Bombers_Forever
10 Sep 2006, 21:09
Does not do a lot but his style of play suits the Swans
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:12
I'm amazed that you've watched every Essendon and Bendigo game over the past few years.
For what its worth , Longy ,yes I have actually.
You never know who is on the net!
Richards was repeatedly played out of position and moved around like a chess piece, or have you all forgotten that .
33 games in 5 years at the Bumbers
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:13
You mean played forward, back and in the ruck at times?
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:21
You mean played forward, back and in the ruck at times?
Has played in one position since joining the swans.
Amazing what a switched on coach can do.
If you had a good look at last nights game. Roos out coached Worsfold.
When was the last time you watched a game with a 2 man forward set up and win !
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:24
Has played in one position since joining the swans.
Amazing what a switched on coach can do.
If you had a good look at last nights game. Roos out coached Worsfold.
When was the last time you watched a game with a 2 man forward set up and win !
Ted has played forward, back and in the ruck at Sydney.
He was settled down back last year at Essendon, played the last 10 games.
Prior to that he Wellman, Fletcher and McPhee keeping him out of the backline and Lucas, Lloyd, Hird and the like keeping him out of the forward line.
He got dropped last year for squibbing a contest, something that purely wasn't good enough.
In 2004 he was in our finals side.
In the end he wanted to leave, we wanted to keep him.
Good luck to him, I wish him all the best. We'll take Dempsey. But at the end he's an incredibly average footballer playing in a very, very good side.
Oh and have a look at Essendon v Richmond, Round 21 2006.
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:30
Round 21 against Richmond. Wasnt that the night that Bradley tried to play on Richo ???:eek:
Richmond won didnt they.
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:32
That would be the night a team with a two man forward set up won.
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:34
Yeah good coaching from Kev wasnt it. Similiar to worsfold last nite:thumbsd:
Dempsey had six kicks and six handballs in that game.
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:37
The only reason the game was even close was because of the tactics we employed in manning up the players Richmond pushed behind the ball. We were getting carved before we did that.
Yep, what was that, Dempsey's 4th game?
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:39
Yeah , A player by the name of Dean Polo had 25 possesions in his first game, you guessed it , against the bombers in the ""Dream time Game "":rolleyes:
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:40
I presume there is a point to that?
Jon Brown had donuts.
droppuntkick23
10 Sep 2006, 21:44
Hey Longy, been a good debate. You have to admit you never got the best out of Ted. I hope he plays in a premiership. Good luck to him I say !:thumbsu:
Longy413
10 Sep 2006, 21:46
That was a debate?
Ted's playing no better now than he did with us. And is it not normaly for a KPP to develop and progress a bit later than normal?
Yep, good luck to him.
Richards, handy player for us at best. Pick #17, laffing. Anyway, not hard to look half decent when you have Roberts-Thompson next to you.
Good luck to him in Sydney, I hope he does well. He looks to be playing the same as with us. Can be handy as a 22nd player picked in a strong side, but two factors weighed against him - we were trying to find more than that and we're not a strong side at the minute.
Broady Poker Tour
11 Sep 2006, 10:55
Can't believe how many Essendon fans are having a crack at him. Fact is that when Wellman retired, Teddy had already shown enough to warrant regular senior football and a spot in our backline.
Unfortunately the Essendon coaching staff felt that we needed a recruit a good role model to the club who can play in our backline. Welcome to Windy Hill- Ty Zantuck. What a joke of a decision that was?
Fact is that if Teddy's name was Bolton, Reynolds or Henneman- he would have been given ample opportunity to become a good player and prove himself. I dare say he probably would have done a good job for us at CHB this year also.
Good luck Teddy, and hope you win a premiership this year.
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 10:59
Ted was given opportunities at CHB last year.
And I don't think anyone is having a crack at him. He's an average footballer, we got a first rounder for him and everyone has wished him good luck. That's about as good as it gets from Essendon supporters for players that leave/walk out on the club.
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 11:01
Ted was given opportunities at CHB last year.
And I don't think anyone is having a crack at him. He's an average footballer, we got a first rounder for him and everyone has wished him good luck. That's about as good as it gets from Essendon supporters for players that leave/walk out on the club.
Essendon supporters don't usually wish players the best when they walk out on the club ;)
stander
11 Sep 2006, 12:09
Unfortunately the Essendon coaching staff felt that we needed a recruit a good role model to the club who can play in our backline. Welcome to Windy Hill- Ty Zantuck. What a joke of a decision that was?
Good luck Teddy, and hope you win a premiership this year.
Good point Broady, the decision to recruit Zantuck and play him ahead of Richards made no sense. Both are average footballers, however, one was clean cut, the other came with baggage that we didn't need. Ted has moved on and so has EFC. Zantuck is doing what he does best.
Broady Poker Tour
11 Sep 2006, 12:38
Can anyone think of players who have left/ or been traded who have actually made us regret losing them?
Wanganeen and Hardwick come to mind. Can anyone think of others?
Can anyone think of players who have left/ or been traded who have actually made us regret losing them?
Wanganeen and Hardwick come to mind. Can anyone think of others?
We didn't have much of a choice with those players, although Fish did very well for Hawthorn Wellman was equally if not handier for us
stander
11 Sep 2006, 13:25
We didn't have much of a choice with those players, although Fish did very well for Hawthorn Wellman was equally if not handier for us
Number 25 for EFC went to Brisbane Bears - initilas R.M.
Number 25 for EFC went to Brisbane Bears - initilas R.M.
He did help us win 2 flags, did we have a choice when he left I can't really remember I was quite young did he do well for Brisbane?
Stephen Milne's one we sorta let go who's done well for himself, cancelled out by getting NLM from the Pies
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 14:15
Milne was his own worst enemy at his time at Essendon, and he wasn't ever on our list anyway. We still had to draft him.
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 14:24
Stephen Milne's one we sorta let go who's done well for himself, cancelled out by getting NLM from the Pies
Was Lovett-Murray at the pies? :confused:
Was Lovett-Murray at the pies? :confused:
Rookie list at one stage
Thought Milne was but was mistaken
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 14:25
He was on the rookie list at Collingwood.
Pretty sure he was injured most of the time though.
stander
11 Sep 2006, 14:25
He did help us win 2 flags, did we have a choice when he left I can't really remember I was quite young did he do well for Brisbane?
Roger was a legend at both clubs. He was given little encouragement to stay at EFC after carrying an elbow injury for most of 87, and didn't like the smell at the Club after Sheedy recruited Raines and Richardson. Probably cost us a flag.
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 14:26
He was on the rookie list at Collingwood.
Pretty sure he was injured most of the time though.
Oh ok thanks for that Longy :thumbsu:
stander
11 Sep 2006, 14:41
Can anyone think of players who have left/ or been traded who have actually made us regret losing them?
Wanganeen and Hardwick come to mind. Can anyone think of others?
Caracella.
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 14:44
Caracella.
Wasn't as good at Brisbane or Collingwood as he was with us.
Was in and out of both sides at the time and I'm not sure he's out performed McPhee, who did win a B&F with us.
The Ted Richards thing reminds me very much of the Cory McGrath situation. Cory was loved by Essendon fans, but in the end he's turned out to be an average battler.
Yeah, the Wanganeens and Caracella's ect are a little different as they were either traded for salaray cap relief or the go home factor, a harder question would be have we discarded any players that have gone on to have good careers, Roger Merrit was a good example
stander
11 Sep 2006, 14:54
Yeah, the Wanganeens and Caracella's ect are a little different as they were either traded for salaray cap relief or the go home factor, a harder question would be have we discarded any players that have gone on to have good careers, Roger Merrit was a good example
Caracella went on to have a good career- in fact he played in a premiership for the Lions who had a team for three years that fell just short of the 1985 Essendon premiership side.
Caracella went on to have a good career- in fact he played in a premiership for the Lions who had a team for three years that fell just short of the 1985 Essendon premiership side.
He was good, but not the same as when he played for EFC, he was in and out at Collingwood and Brisbane and never performed as consistently as he used to. Like I said he wasn't just discarded, we would have loved him to continue to play for us but got too close to the salary cap. It was a little different to Ted, sure if he wanted to stay we would have kept him but we didn't mind at all trading him to Sydney.
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 15:04
Blake was only at Brisbane in one of their Premiership years, he was at Essendon for the other two. In that year he kicked 17 goals in 18 games, hardly great form.
His best year since leaving Essendon would have been at Collingwood in 2005.
stander
11 Sep 2006, 15:07
Blake was only at Brisbane in one of their Premiership years, he was at Essendon for the other two. In that year he kicked 17 goals in 18 games, hardly great form.
His best year since leaving Essendon would have been at Collingwood in 2005.
Do I take it you mean he did not have a good career after leaving EFC ?
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 15:10
Do I take it you mean he did not have a good career after leaving EFC ?
I don't think he did
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 15:13
Do I take it you mean he did not have a good career after leaving EFC ?
No, I didn't say that.
The original question asked for players that people regret losing. I don't regret losing Blake, he went onto good things but never reached his best again and we got McPhee, Cupido and Pick 17 out of the deal.
Hard to regret that.
stander
11 Sep 2006, 15:22
No, I didn't say that.
The original question asked for players that people regret losing. I don't regret losing Blake, he went onto good things but never reached his best again and we got McPhee, Cupido and Pick 17 out of the deal.
Hard to regret that.
Caracella leaving was very regrettable- and a product of some poor decision making by the club. Who was pick 17 by the way ?
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 15:26
Caracella leaving was very regrettable- and a product of some poor decision making by the club. Who was pick 17 by the way ?
Pick 17 was Darren Walsh I think I could be wrong
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 15:30
Caracella leaving was very regrettable- and a product of some poor decision making by the club. Who was pick 17 by the way ?
Pick 17 was Nick Smith, later became pick 15 after Carlton lost their picks.
It was traded to Melbourne with Chris Heffernan for Pick 12, which later became Jason Laycock.
g_t_b - Walsh was draft in the early 20's.
The happenings surrounding Caracella leaving is regretable, the AFL going back on their word, the club taking the AFL's word and not managing the list better and Blake not being prepared to take cuts when others were. The whole thing was a sham.
But actually losing him, no regrets there. It didn't go on to hurt us because he never reached his best footy again and we got a B&F winner who can still go on to greater things.
Really the only regretable thing is the way Blake's career came to an end.
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 15:49
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g_t_b - Walsh was draft in the early 20's.
OOPS my bad :o
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 15:52
Actually, I was a little off as well.
Just looked it up, he was pick 27. Cartledge was pick 28 (the pick we got for Blumfield).
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 15:56
Actually, I was a little off as well.
Just looked it up, he was pick 27. Cartledge was pick 28 (the pick we got for Blumfield).
Yeah thats right cause in that draft we had picks 10,11,27,28
Longy413
11 Sep 2006, 15:56
Yeah spot on.
go_the_bombers
11 Sep 2006, 16:01
Yeah spot on.
At last I got something right 2day:p
stander
11 Sep 2006, 17:36
Yeah, the Wanganeens and Caracella's ect are a little different as they were either traded for salaray cap relief or the go home factor, a harder question would be have we discarded any players that have gone on to have good careers, Roger Merrit was a good example
Merv Neagle had a good career at the Sydney Swans from 1986. The money was huge too.
Merv Neagle had a good career at the Sydney Swans from 1986. The money was huge too.
Yeah, at least Sheeds stayed