View Full Version : Who do you want as the new one day Skipper?
Warnie for mine just ahead of Boof.
Dippers Donuts
14 Feb 2002, 14:16
Gilly for me, Warney is no longer a certain one day starter. Although I would make Warney vice captain...much easier to drop the vice captain...
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
Gilly for me, Warney is no longer a certain one day starter. Although I would make Warney vice captain...much easier to drop the vice captain...
True but I've gone for Warne based on his excellent efforts last time he captained the one day squad.
Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 14:19
Michael Bevan for me!:D
PowerGirl36
14 Feb 2002, 14:33
Adam Gilchrist for me because he has great leadership skills and would be a suitable long term captain :cool:
Dippers Donuts
14 Feb 2002, 14:37
Originally posted by BT
True but I've gone for Warne based on his excellent efforts last time he captained the one day squad.
That's why I would make Warney VC - utilise his undoubted tactical skills...
Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
That's why I would make Warney VC - utilise his undoubted tactical skills...
It's a tough one but I still think Warnie would produce the best results if he was named captain. He has a chequered past which counts against him but he's still my choice.
I do see your point though Dip.
Lehmann would do a good job but i'd make him V.C., let him establish himself in the team before heaping too much pressure on him.
Ponting, well they call him punter & he'd be a risk for many reasons
Gilly, he's not been a great V.C. I reckon but he'll probably get the nod & be replaced by Warne at the end of the S.A. tour. I just think he's a bit soft to be the skipper. Handy keeper, awesome batsman.
Warnes shouldnt be playing in every one dayer and could still be a bit immature....
Too soon for Punter
Gillys got enough on his plate
Boofs to old.....but if i had to pick one of the 4 i'd pick him.
Which leaves Bevan, Martyn or McGrath. Bevo!!!!
Bevan's definitely the best batsman in the team but I can't see him motivating a side to be honest. Does he captain N.S.W.?
McGrath is our best bowler and is a better option I belive. I have some doubts about his temperament (can't remember why he was suspended & inelligible for the A.B.) but i've seen him get riled up over nothing a few times, so not him for mine either.
Martyn, had experience with Australia A & did OK but he bowled himself too much. Nope!
Goldenblue
14 Feb 2002, 15:23
I think the man for the job should be Ponting....If we are serious about the world cup there needs to be changes.
If Steve Waugh got the chop, I think Mark Waugh as well as Shane Warne both needed to be dropped from the ODI side too.
Mark Waugh is no longer the player he was, Shane warne gets belted a lot in the one day game and has been worked out.
Both players should be retained for the test side, but when comes the world cup, SW wont have the same influence he once did unless there are 11 Daryll Cullinans in the side.....
Warne is past his best and if Ponting is passed over because of his misdemenours, then why should Warne get the job?
After all, he has not got a good track record himself...
Michele
14 Feb 2002, 15:24
Ricky! ;)
Come on Breidis, Rick should be captain and Michael his deputy.
Michele:)
Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 15:27
Originally posted by Michele
Ricky! ;)
Come on Breidis, Rick should be captain and Michael his deputy.
Michele:)
Yes OK Michele! The rule from now on should be that only North supporters can captain Australia!;)
Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 15:31
Originally posted by BT
Bevan's definitely the best batsman in the team but I can't see him motivating a side to be honest. Does he captain N.S.W.?
He certainly does and very well too I might add!
I'd give Gilly the nod! I mean really, are there any other choices?
Warne and Ponting - Come on guys, do you think we could keep them out of the pubs long enough to be good captains.
Lehmann - a bit old to start blooding him for the top spot.
Bevan - wrong personality type
Originally posted by Briedis
He certainly does and very well too I might add!
Sorry Briedis, can't have him he's not convincing for mine.
And to you and Michelle I doubt if he supports North ;)
For mine, the candidates are Gilchrist, Warne, Lehmann, Ponting, Bevan and Martyn.
Martyn was a poor captain of WA and Australia A, and didn't last the season. If a leadership role beckoned, he'd be eased in as VC or DVC.
Bevan is captain of NSW when not on ODI duty, and is the best batsman in the team. Along with Gilchrist, possibly the only automatic selection in the XI.
Ponting's maturity is under a bit of scrutiny and, like Bevan, his state level captaincy doesn't have much experience due to international commitments.
Gilchrist and Warne are both experienced campaigners and have captained and vice-captained at international levels. Similar leadership experience there. Gilchrist has had one poor series, but did OK in the Tests so his form slump isn't drastic. Being keeper also helps him retain his spot. Warne might have his reputation holding him in the side a little, but he is a quality bowler and will probably regain form. Maybe the captaincy will inspire him.
Lehmann has done a good job with limited talent for SA, and has also captained Australia A this summer. There seems to be little doubt that Lehmann has his foot in the door as Steve Waugh's batting replacement, and in his current form Katich & co. would need a bulldozer to move him.
Maybe it's all an elaborate plot. Waugh was an adequate but hardly brilliant skipper, Lehmann might be better. On batting alone, Waugh is no better than anyone else vying for his spot, and doesn't bowl. Time for a change? Let's include someone who can add leadership and maybe even take over the captaincy.
Crikey, I'm starting to sound like Dr Coco Pops with that conspiracy theory. Is that a lone gunman behind the sightscreen? :p
I'd like to see Lehmann get it, but find it hard to go past Gilchrist. Warne may be a better choice than Gilchrist, but he appears under a bit more pressure to retain his spot in the XI.
SeinDude
14 Feb 2002, 17:08
Ricky Ponting should be the One-Day Captain in my opinion, especially if the ACB have him in mind to take over from Steve Waugh in the tests when Tugger retires.
I would then make Warne & Gilchrist Vice-Captains to give Ricky the experienced leaders around him.
It will be interesting to see what the ACB does when they name the One-Day squad for South Africa. Does anyone know when this decision is supposed to be?
SeinDude
gPhonque
14 Feb 2002, 17:10
Lehmann.
He's the only one there who isn't in danger of being dropped!
The Hitman
14 Feb 2002, 17:14
Punter.
The Hitman
Kane McGoodwin
14 Feb 2002, 19:14
Lehmann clearly has the best credentials as a leader with SA & will keep his place in the team if given a fair go by the selectors. He is my choice as ODI captain (& test captain when Steve Waugh retires).
I would have said Warne if he was in any decent form, but there must be a little bit of doubt of him actually making world cup squad if he keeps up his poor ODI form (as opposed to his test form against the Proteas).
Gilchrist is likely to get get the job & probably wouldn't be a bad choice. However, it takes away the opportunity (like Steve Waugh had) to blood a new captain in the ODI's before the tests, as it would be too much for a keeper to take on the job in the tests. Also, It would require some flexibility in the batting order if the Australians fielded first, as asking Gilly to open after keeping/captaining the side could affect his form.
I don't rate Ponting as the most stable person around & his form with the bat has been average this season. May well be a future captain, but I would like to see him captain Tasmania for a few more season yet.
I will concede that Warne had an ordinary summer, in particular his one day series. However I don't think he's finished yet!
Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 19:24
Originally posted by BT
Sorry Briedis, can't have him he's not convincing for mine.
And to you and Michelle I doubt if he supports North ;)
I think Michele was refering to Punter, who certainly does support the Roos. And Bevo being a Canberra-grown could be persuaded to support the Roos, at least for time being it seems...:confused:
Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 19:25
Originally posted by gPhonque
Lehmann.
He's the only one there who isn't in danger of being dropped!
Only because he can't get a regular game anyway! Hard to drop a bloke you don't pick. ;)
What about Mark Waugh? He'd make a good captain don't you reckon?:D
Originally posted by Briedis
Only because he can't get a regular game anyway! Hard to drop a bloke you don't pick. ;)
What about Mark Waugh? He'd make a good captain don't you reckon?:D
I'm sure he could get some effective captaincy tips off Hansie. :p
Originally posted by Briedis
I think Michele was refering to Punter, who certainly does support the Roos. And Bevo being a Canberra-grown could be persuaded to support the Roos, at least for time being it seems...:confused:
Yeah mate I know punter is a rooboy. And Bevo might support North Sydney, would that do? ;).
Mark Waugh is skating on thin ice for mine, just chugging along doing OK. He's no certainty for the world cup unless he really starts to perfom.
NICK THE PIE MAN
14 Feb 2002, 19:30
Gilly for me.
Definatly not Warne.
RoosLuver
14 Feb 2002, 20:16
Gilly should be captain with Warney as his Vice!!
Gilly for me with Ponting as VC
GoEagles
14 Feb 2002, 23:04
Gilchrist for me. Warne wouldn't even be in my one day team if I was selector. Ponting might get lucky if the ACB are looking for the long term future.
Goldenblue
15 Feb 2002, 06:13
Originally posted by SeinDude
Ricky Ponting should be the One-Day Captain in my opinion, especially if the ACB have him in mind to take over from Steve Waugh in the tests when Tugger retires.
I would then make Warne & Gilchrist Vice-Captains to give Ricky the experienced leaders around him.
It will be interesting to see what the ACB does when they name the One-Day squad for South Africa. Does anyone know when this decision is supposed to be?
SeinDude
This seems the most logical........
Jars458
15 Feb 2002, 09:04
For me it has to Gilchrist or Lehmann
Warne is over the hill and his form in the ODI's have been ordinary. His behaviour hardly leads by example.
Potning - too imature _ i am sorry but getting married doesn't just suddenly turn you into a wise elder. Again he does not lead by example.
Martyn - has proven to be an ordinary captain and will be the mainstay of the batting so needs to concentrate on that.
Bevan - a very interesting one that. Has teh experience and the skill and his spot in the side is cemented, but his name never seems to surface
Lehmann - has the most capticany experience all be it at the level down. The fact that Yorkshire appointed him as Captain for this year says a lot about the high regard he is held in. Not so long ago they would not even let non Englishman play for them.
Against him is that he is older and has no cemented his sport in the team - he can't have after only one game althougth the dropping of S Waugh makes him a lot more solid a bet.
My tip is they could make him vice captain to give that back up expreinece and brilliant technical nouse that he has.
So the Winner is
GILCHRIST
He is the vice captain and is a very good public face and always does teh right thing on and off the field which makes him a good leader.
He will bat down the order and leave much of the work on the field to his vice captain who should be Lehmann
I voted for Lehmann 'cause I love him - but I think it will be Gilly
At least he is a leftie!
Michele
15 Feb 2002, 09:26
Originally posted by BT
Sorry Briedis, can't have him he's not convincing for mine.
And to you and Michelle I doubt if he supports North ;)
You mean to say, that you missed Ricky decked out in a North jumper :D on a 'overseas tour' - (possibily the Ashes).
From memory ;) all players were asked which team did they followed.
Geoff Marsh, then coach or something also followed North (and for quite sometime), but being a Wacker, when Freo entered he reverted to Freo. Neither he nor Freo have been heard from since. :p
Can't see Lehmann being chosen over Warne or Gilly, (hell, imagine the team chaos, Waugh dropped and then a player selected AHEAD of the current playing Australian VCs :eek: But the selectors DO have to look to the future and that is why I think Ricky would be outstanding.
Michele
Michele
15 Feb 2002, 09:28
Originally posted by Briedis
Yes OK Michele! The rule from now on should be that only North supporters can captain Australia!;)
Glad you agree! :D :D
We have the BEST footballer - bar none and Ricky won an award for the BEST one-day cricketer this year.
Jars458
15 Feb 2002, 09:34
Originally posted by Michele
But the selectors DO have to look to the future and that is why I think Ricky would be outstanding.
Michele
"But the boy is dangerous. They all sense it. Why can't you."
Briedis
15 Feb 2002, 10:05
Originally posted by BT
Yeah mate I know punter is a rooboy. And Bevo might support North Sydney, would that do? ;).
There's no way a Manly grade player would ever consider supporting North Sydney....anyway, there'd be no point these days considering they only play First Division NRL.;)
Briedis
15 Feb 2002, 10:06
Originally posted by Michele
Glad you agree! :D :D
We have the BEST footballer - bar none and Ricky won an award for the BEST one-day cricketer this year.
I don't know if Stuey Cochrane is the BEST footballer in the league.... :D :D
Or did you mean someone else? ;)
The Hitman
18 Feb 2002, 08:58
Originally posted by The Hitman
Punter.
The Hitman
One word said it all... ;) :D :p
The Hitman
SeinDude
18 Feb 2002, 18:23
Originally posted by The Hitman
One word said it all... ;) :D :p
The Hitman
The Hitman,
Great minds think alike!!! Do we know who the 3rd person was to vote for Ricky Ponting apart from us??
SeinDude :)
Jeez, Boof got a lot more votes that I expected. Did any non Sth Aussies have him as their first choice?