View Full Version : Phantom Draft Discussion
sinepari
12 Sep 2006, 23:37
Figured we could prevent the phantom draft from becoming 3,000 pages long by adding this for our useless, miscellaneous chat.
:thumbsu:
Calcium Man
12 Sep 2006, 23:39
I'm suspecting that philhawk will pick up Jack Riewoldt with the tigers first pick.
sinepari
12 Sep 2006, 23:42
I'm convinced their are mind games going on in order to protect real interests for the official draft
;)
Calcium Man
12 Sep 2006, 23:54
Guess we could speculate who LH15 will take.
I would think Proud as the hawks really lack midfield pace. Selwood is very similar to a lot of their current midfielders, they dont want to end up with something similar to saints who have quality midfielders but no quality pace.
sinepari
12 Sep 2006, 23:57
I reckon he might go Leuenberger
Would have though Leuenberger & Selwood will go before Proud
Calcium Man
13 Sep 2006, 00:05
I reckon he might go Leuenberger
That was my other thought, but i felt they would look for midfield pace more.
sinepari
13 Sep 2006, 00:07
they could probably get mid pace with 2nd pick, chances are they won't get a v.good ruckman then.
Calcium Man
13 Sep 2006, 00:12
they could probably get mid pace with 2nd pick, chances are they won't get a v.good ruckman then.
Yeah but i never think that far ahead. :D
philhawk
13 Sep 2006, 00:26
Well, seeing how i'm randomly doing Richmond, i'll outline my intentions here (feel free to agree or disagree Richmond fans).
Obviously, the players i'll be looking at will be,
Sellar, Selwood (doubt either will last till nine), Leunberger, Reiwoldt (slim chance that they'll remain) and then players in Proud, Jetta, Collard, Benjamin and even McKenzie/Reid.
The way I see it, Richmond really, really need KPP's. Reiwoldt would be a good option in that regards, but if Pick 9 comes about and I feel there is a player left with more 'talent', then i'll pick the other player.
If all the decent KPP prospects are gone, i'm thinking of tall midfielders in Benjamin/Proud/Collard who would all fit in very well into Richmonds 'style' of drafting in recent years (IMO).
I dno, just a thought.
macca69
13 Sep 2006, 00:28
I'm guessing LH15 will go with Jetta.
missionpossible
13 Sep 2006, 00:50
He was going to take thorp
diablo14
13 Sep 2006, 00:53
im not giving anything away till my pick comes around ;)
Gilly1972
13 Sep 2006, 01:00
and i don't think i'm giving anything away until the'real' phantom draft :D
LukeHodge15
13 Sep 2006, 07:50
I'm convinced their are mind games going on in order to protect real interests for the official draft
;)
its just so early, many things could change after more watching and draft camp results come out.
very happy with jetta at 6 though :p
The way I see it, Richmond really, really need KPP's. Reiwoldt would be a good option in that regards, but if Pick 9 comes about and I feel there is a player left with more 'talent', then i'll pick the other player.
Richmond will follow the Dogs model. Run, run, run - pace, pace, pace. Everyone thinks we need KP players but our definition of KP player includes Joel Bowden, Pat Bowden and Kayne Pettifer. Everyone thinks we took a midfielder last year, but Jarrod Oakley-Nicholls will play CHB for us.
Unless someone is top-5 in the sprint / agility / leap tests we won't be getting him.
B-grade KP don't interest us. Why recruit a 190cm Reiwoldt when you can recruit a 190cm Hawksley? Reiwoldt MIGHT hold down a forward pocket. Hawksley can play flanks, wings, key position.
Pharaoh
13 Sep 2006, 20:08
very happy with jetta at 6 though :p
And I'm very happy you're not our recruiting manager.
sinepari
13 Sep 2006, 21:02
I understand what you say Pharoah, but you could definitely do worse than Jetta. Classy.
philhawk
13 Sep 2006, 21:24
Richmond will follow the Dogs model. Run, run, run - pace, pace, pace. Everyone thinks we need KP players but our definition of KP player includes Joel Bowden, Pat Bowden and Kayne Pettifer. Everyone thinks we took a midfielder last year, but Jarrod Oakley-Nicholls will play CHB for us.
Unless someone is top-5 in the sprint / agility / leap tests we won't be getting him.
B-grade KP don't interest us. Why recruit a 190cm Reiwoldt when you can recruit a 190cm Hawksley? Reiwoldt MIGHT hold down a forward pocket. Hawksley can play flanks, wings, key position.
190cm? From all reports i've read he's 193/194, with the possibility of adding another 4 cm like his cousin after being drafted. You do realise Weaver that Nick was 191/192 when he was drafted?
sinepari
13 Sep 2006, 21:44
Anyone think Dawes might go earlier than anticipated?
macca69
13 Sep 2006, 21:52
Anyone think Dawes might go earlier than anticipated?
I rate him, but he did his knee or something didn't he?
laurens_vdS
13 Sep 2006, 22:19
I think Richmond will go Pace as well!
We have deledio, tambling, JON & hopefully we can pick up a good player this year two like with Raines!:thumbsu:
Pharaoh
14 Sep 2006, 07:09
I understand what you say Pharoah, but you could definitely do worse than Jetta. Classy.
I would love to have Jetta on our list, but not at the expense of Leuenberger or Selwood.
I rate him, but he did his knee or something didn't he?
I've heard ACL and out for 12 months.
190cm? From all reports i've read he's 193/194, with the possibility of adding another 4 cm like his cousin after being drafted. You do realise Weaver that Nick was 191/192 when he was drafted?
Riewoldt was 193cm when drafted and still listed at 193m in the media guide. He may have grown a cm or two but is hardly the sort of thing you gamble on unless you have bone-scans than confirm how tall he will grow to.
Richmond will follow the Dogs model. Run, run, run - pace, pace, pace. ... Unless someone is top-5 in the sprint / agility / leap tests we won't be getting him.Boy, have we got a recent medal-winner for you! (http://canberra.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=sport&subclass=afl&story_id=508209&category=Afl&m=9&y=2006)
In all seriousness, though, Spriggs has apparently improved his disposal (which was the reason why he couldn't keep a place in the league team in 2005) substantially this year. It's just that there isn't a place for him at Sydney any more with midfield youngsters Moore and Schmidt (among others) coming through and being given priority.
So he's a likely delisting at the end of the year, but on his current form would press for selection at almost any club, and at only 25yo there's not a worry that you wouldn't get enough value out of him before retirement. One of those rare guys who actually deserves a 3rd chance, albeit he's not terribly likely to get it.
(For those who don't know, Spriggs has always been a consistent winner of pretty much every intra-club run, over any distance, ever held. I think he held the 'all-time fastest something-or-other' record at draft camp for a few years, too.)
Supertiger
14 Sep 2006, 17:16
Unless one of Hansen, Gibbs, Gumbleton or Thorp drops down to 8, which they wont, then its a 99% certainty Richmond will go with Clinton Benjamin. What weaver has said is spot on.
foot_ball13
14 Sep 2006, 17:40
I think Leigh Adams from Vic metro and Eastern ranges has been much under rated for the captain of the winning metro side and all australian rover. I wouldn't be suprised if he went top 20.
B-grade KP don't interest us. Why recruit a 190cm Reiwoldt when you can recruit a 190cm Hawksley? Reiwoldt MIGHT hold down a forward pocket. Hawksley can play flanks, wings, key position.
Where do you see Hawksley going in the draft Weaver? I had him in the mid 30's myself.
Where do you see Hawksley going in the draft Weaver? I had him in the mid 30's myself.
High. Put it this way - Tom Williams went top-10 because he is tall, athletic and can run like the wind. The fact that he can't kick didn't matter at all. Hawksley is tall, can run, can kick and has an elite junior resume as an AFL/AIS scholorship holder. Hawksley ticks all the boxes for what AFL clubs get excited about.
I have him over Benjamin who I see as too light-weight and timid, and lacking in impact. Benjamin plays lots of lousy games amongst the good ones. If Richmond stick to type I can see Hawksley a candidate at 8. Particularly if he tests well at camp. Everyone wants a 190cm guy who can run and kick.
In all the discusion about who is or isn't a KP player I think a lot of people are being a bit too 'inside the box' (if ya get what I mean). I can see Hawksley being a fullback in time. The kind of Matthew Scarlett fullback who can get 20 touches and steal forward for the occasional goal.
Calcium Man
14 Sep 2006, 20:15
I have him over Benjamin who I see as too light-weight and timid, and lacking in impact. Benjamin plays lots of lousy games amongst the good ones. If Richmond stick to type I can see Hawksley a candidate at 8. Particularly if he tests well at camp. Everyone wants a 190cm guy who can run and kick.
Would these two be the ones you reckon we would be most likely to pick up at no. 8?? And will it just come down to who has more speed and agility at draft camp??
Jimmy Gwilt
14 Sep 2006, 20:22
Would these two be the ones you reckon we would be most likely to pick up at no. 8?? And will it just come down to who has more speed and agility at draft camp??
someone start up a phantom draft now
im keen for it but not smart enough to run it
Calcium Man
14 Sep 2006, 20:29
someone start up a phantom draft now
im keen for it but not smart enough to run it
Theres already one running
http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267582
sinepari
14 Sep 2006, 21:05
C'mon guys, there already is a phantom draft thread, isn' that enough? Especially considering that most of the guys doing it have seen plenty of the kids live and have been following the draft all season.