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whippersnipper
13 Sep 2006, 19:40
Hey Sainters,
Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Thoughts?
Dr.Jekyll
13 Sep 2006, 19:43
Goddard will captain St. Kilda.
trueblue_91
13 Sep 2006, 19:45
Hey Sainters,
Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Thoughts?
That wouldn't happen.
Goddard will stay at the saints.
Axcellence
13 Sep 2006, 20:43
Hey Sainters,
Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Thoughts?
Get ****ed
whippersnipper
13 Sep 2006, 20:47
Get ****ed
Take a chill pill dude. Does it look like I'm trolling? All I asked was whether or not he was out of contract that all- you dont need to make stupid remarks like that. I suggest you take your head out of your ar$e next time.
nicko016
13 Sep 2006, 21:17
I'm not sure where his contract is at but he might have 1 year left. I cant remember whether he signed a 2 year or 3 year deal after his initial 2 year deal. Even, if he was out of contract I don't think he would want to leave as this ywar he has just established himself as a player. He was probably more vulnerable last year when there were a few doubts on him.
Kildonan
13 Sep 2006, 21:42
Goddard is a pick #1 with three years of match conditioning and three preseasons under his belt. Still has 10 + years as an elite of the AFL.
You would need a pick #1 plus another first round pick and a second or third round pick.
You can't afford him.
What could Carlton offer any top footballer except years of pain and promises of paper bags that they never pay?
whippersnipper
13 Sep 2006, 21:54
Goddard is a pick #1 with three years of match conditioning and three preseasons under his belt. Still has 10 + years as an elite of the AFL.
You would need a pick #1 plus another first round pick and a second or third round pick.
You can't afford him.
What could Carlton offer any top footballer except years of pain and promises of paper bags that they never pay?
Goddard certainly is not worth the number 1 pick in this years draft. Agree he probably isnt worth 19 and Holihan, but thats going too far. He has been serviceable, but not spectacular. Give me some statistics to prove he is worth even the number 1 pick. Doesn't look like a matchwinner yet. Your idea of pick 1, plus another first round pick, plus a second or third round pick is one of the single most laughable ideas I have ever heard anyone, let alone a mod, ever post. What could we offer him? The chance to be a part of a midfield in his boyhood team consisting of Murphy, Walker, Simpson, (soon to be) Gibbs and him. In four or five years time, when we have switched places, you will see what I mean.
nicko016
13 Sep 2006, 21:59
Goddard certainly is not worth the number 1 pick in this years draft. Agree he probably isnt worth 19 and Holihan, but thats going too far. He has been serviceable, but not spectacular. Give me some statistics to prove he is worth even the number 1 pick. Doesn't look like a matchwinner yet. Your idea of pick 1, plus another first round pick, plus a second or third round pick is one of the single most laughable ideas I have ever heard anyone, let alone a mod, ever post. What could we offer him? The chance to be a part of a midfield in his boyhood team consisting of Murphy, Walker, Simpson, (soon to be) Gibbs and him. In four or five years time, when we have switched places, you will see what I mean.
Don't kid yourself. Goddard won't be leaving. He's already part of a midfield including Ball, Dal Santo, Hayes, Harvey and Montagna.
whippersnipper
13 Sep 2006, 22:04
Don't kid yourself. Goddard won't be leaving. He's already part of a midfield including Ball, Dal Santo, Hayes, Harvey and Montagna.
Didnt say he was. But if he is out of contract it ceertainly doesnt stop us from trying to entice him, and that was all I was asking. Yeah, I would expect Goddard to stay at St Kilda for sure, why wouldnt he?
Post edited due to personal abuse
Kildonan
13 Sep 2006, 22:09
Goddard certainly is not worth the number 1 pick in this years draft.
If you believe that - then there is no point in chasing him - because just pick #1 won't get you on the bargaining table.
Jimthegreat
13 Sep 2006, 22:35
Had a pretty good year this year, and use the ball really well, but plays without an opponent and tends to get easy kicks. We already have enough of those types without getting another one. Much happier picking up Simmo at 45 in the same draft, a young player who runs hard, breaks lines, hits the ball hard and can actually use it well (something in small commodities in our club) who we might not have got under different circumstances. Will be a leader in the shorter term rather than the longer term.
goal sneak
13 Sep 2006, 22:51
From a neutral point of view i would say Goddard is worth anywhere between pick 1 an pick 3 , probably the later in this years draft. Having said that i don't think the saints would be looking to trade him and if they were it would not be draft picks they are after considering they have just sacked GT to persue a premiership.
Brad Pearce
13 Sep 2006, 23:08
pick 17, fisher and stevens?
A Warrior named Lica
13 Sep 2006, 23:27
Take a chill pill dude. Does it look like I'm trolling? All I asked was whether or not he was out of contract that all- you dont need to make stupid remarks like that. I suggest you take your head out of your ar$e next time.
YES! Of course you are trolling!!! Weak effort too.
Goddard wont be going anywhere...he is a GUN.
I say well done to the Sainters for sticking by him when all and sundry bagged him. His 2006 has been first class.
Would love him at Pies but acknowledge that he would be in the top 5 or so down at Morrabin!
Axcellence
14 Sep 2006, 07:49
Take a chill pill dude. Does it look like I'm trolling? All I asked was whether or not he was out of contract that all- you dont need to make stupid remarks like that. I suggest you take your head out of your ar$e next time.
How about you pack your crap picks and players and move off this board? You're plainly trolling - how many brendon goddard threads started by carlton supporters do we have? Everytime his contract is up for grabs or something happens, eg Grant Thomas... people like you come streaming in looking for him... THIS IS NOT A FISH MARKET! And he is NOT FOR SALE!
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195002&highlight=brendon+goddard
Bourky23
14 Sep 2006, 10:42
pick 17, fisher and stevens?
i'd probably accept that
And he is NOT FOR SALE!
Just about anyone has a price mate, don't kid yourself
kolchak
14 Sep 2006, 11:21
If you believe that - then there is no point in chasing him - because just pick #1 won't get you on the bargaining table.
You have got to be joking............
I would rather have pick 1 in this draft anyday....and to say hes worth more than that...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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whippersnipper
14 Sep 2006, 11:55
How about you pack your crap picks and players and move off this board? You're plainly trolling - how many brendon goddard threads started by carlton supporters do we have? Everytime his contract is up for grabs or something happens, eg Grant Thomas... people like you come streaming in looking for him... THIS IS NOT A FISH MARKET! And he is NOT FOR SALE!
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=195002&highlight=brendon+goddard
Read my question nuff-nuff, I was merely inquiring as to whether or not he was out of contract, that is all. Believe it or not, I am not a part of the recruiting department at Carlton, it was merely to assist with a discussion on our board. You need to understand what a troll is before you can accuse me of one.
Bluebear
14 Sep 2006, 12:11
He is out of contract.
Hasn't signed yet as IMO they are waiting on Harvey to decide his playing furture so the club knows what their salary cap is before making him an offer.
Given the year he has had they MAY find it difficult given that MANY other clubs, including Carlton could probably offer him more. Just an opinion.
For what its worth I think he will stay at the saints.
Axcellence
14 Sep 2006, 19:05
Read my question nuff-nuff, I was merely inquiring as to whether or not he was out of contract, that is all. Believe it or not, I am not a part of the recruiting department at Carlton, it was merely to assist with a discussion on our board. You need to understand what a troll is before you can accuse me of one.
Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Let me get this.. you were here to assist US.
I might as well go on the blues board and start posting about taking nick stevens for pick #52?
He is out of contract.
Hasn't signed yet as IMO they are waiting on Harvey to decide his playing furture so the club knows what their salary cap is before making him an offer.
Given the year he has had they MAY find it difficult given that MANY other clubs, including Carlton could probably offer him more. Just an opinion.
For what its worth I think he will stay at the saints.
Harvey's isn't much and half doesn't count, Carlton could offer more no doubt whether he actually gets paid is another matter
whippersnipper
15 Sep 2006, 15:41
Let me get this.. you were here to assist US.
I might as well go on the blues board and start posting about taking nick stevens for pick #52?
You really aint very quick there, are ya mate?
Why would I come here to assist you??? And again- ??? and ???. Look closely- I follow CARLTON. I came onto the board to get a simple question answered, not to have morons like you attack me
As for mentioning that he might be worth hunting, well by jeez, what a relevation that is! Thats what clubs DO at the end of the year- they go after quality stock at other clubs, that's what St Kilda did to us at the end of 2000 and thats what we might do at the end of this year.
As for going onto our board about Stevens, or Simpson, or Bentick or whoever- one of your brethern has already done so, and I for one, don't give a fat rat's clacker.
The Punter
15 Sep 2006, 16:24
To answer the original question, there is little chance of Goddard going to Carlton. Why?
1. Generally, the most important thing to an AFL player is a premiership. I cannot forsee a time, at the moment, when Carlton will win another premiership. They are clearly not "on the rise" just yet, but I would entertain an argument that that is about to happen.
2. Few players changes clubs, and much fewer good, young players change clubs. Goddard will probably finish in the top 5 in the B&F, and the better the player, the more likelihood of that player not changing clubs.
3. Normally once an player enters an AFL club old childhood loyalties fly out the window. Goddard is not homesick, and a move to Carlton wouldn't solve this problem even if he was.
4. There is very little Carlton could offer St Kilda in a trade. St Kilda wouldn't accept any draft pick for Goddard, even #1, because it sets St Kilda's progression back four years in one spot on their list. Of Carlton's current list, St Kilda would probably accept Murphy for Goddard, and that's about it. Waite gets injured too much, and others simply are not of the same standard as Goddard.
Answered seriously enough? Now get off our page.
C4[2]Yo`DooR
15 Sep 2006, 16:34
4. There is very little Carlton could offer St Kilda in a trade. St Kilda wouldn't accept any draft pick for Goddard, even #1, because it sets St Kilda's progression back four years in one spot on their list. Of Carlton's current list, St Kilda would probably accept Murphy for Goddard, and that's about it. Waite gets injured too much, and others simply are not of the same standard as Goddard.
You make it sound as if its your decision - its not.
Pre Season Draft.
Bluebear
15 Sep 2006, 16:38
To answer the original question, there is little chance of Goddard going to Carlton. Why?
1. Generally, the most important thing to an AFL player is a premiership. I cannot forsee a time, at the moment, when Carlton will win another premiership. They are clearly not "on the rise" just yet, but I would entertain an argument that that is about to happen.
2. Few players changes clubs, and much fewer good, young players change clubs. Goddard will probably finish in the top 5 in the B&F, and the better the player, the more likelihood of that player not changing clubs.
3. Normally once an player enters an AFL club old childhood loyalties fly out the window. Goddard is not homesick, and a move to Carlton wouldn't solve this problem even if he was.
4. There is very little Carlton could offer St Kilda in a trade. St Kilda wouldn't accept any draft pick for Goddard, even #1, because it sets St Kilda's progression back four years in one spot on their list. Of Carlton's current list, St Kilda would probably accept Murphy for Goddard, and that's about it. Waite gets injured too much, and others simply are not of the same standard as Goddard.
Answered seriously enough? Now get off our page.
So supporters of other clubs aren't welcome to discuss (vs Troll) any topics here.
Allow me to adress some points:
1. Correct. I agree that the blues haven't risen yet, but maybe he thinks with the injuries to Gehrig, Kosi, Max, etc that the Saints may have had their chance.
2. Aaron Hamill
3.Irrelevant, despite what some of my colleagues think
4. Unless you sign him we won't need to offer the Saints anything. We just convinve Goddard that he'll be better off with us (this being the big challenge of the whole deal) and he'll go into the PSD.
I don't think he will be a blue, but only point 1 supports your case here, and money has been known to overcome this - see point 2. (from GF and Prelim to wooden spooner for cash and leadership role etc.).
The Punter
15 Sep 2006, 16:41
No, it's not my decision. But having followed footy for a while, and gained some experience of how people behave during my 26 years on the Earth, I have proffered that opinion.
Brendon Fevola barracked for St Kilda as a kid. No mention of us last year when you were shopping him around, was there?
So far this week we have copped plenty on this site from, of all people, Carlton supporters.
You have an inferior side and an incompetent administration. As this has been our situation for many years, but not now, I revel in your discomfort. If now it only happened to Essendon.
If Goddard leaves St Kilda, of which, at very best, there is as much chance of happening as any other currently uncontracted player at St KIlda, then I will suggest he probably won't go to Carlton. You guys can offer him money, but little chance of success during his career.
If Goddard leaves St Kilda, of which, at very best, there is as much chance of happening as any other currently uncontracted player at St KIlda, then I will suggest he probably won't go to Carlton. You guys can offer him money, but little chance of success during his career.
Very short sighted considering at least eight or so more years of playing in him! You seem to think we won't have any success in that time? I seem to remember Saints winning another spoon in 2000 when we finished second in the regular season. Things can turn around quickly.
The only players at saints who have seen true success (ie premiership) are the 1966 side and those that have moved away from saints.
For what it is worth I don't think Goddard will end up at Carlton, not because he wouldnt want to, but because I can't see Saints losing him.
Bit strange not signed yet though I would have thought. At least then Saints may have some say if he did want to go.
AndrewJo
15 Sep 2006, 19:07
Hey Sainters,
Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Thoughts?
No one really answered the question as to whether he is under contract. If not and he wants to go to Carlton in the PSD there is nothing the Saints can do. Remember Nick Stevens from Port Adelaide.
Rumours abound but heard that the deal is already done. Can only be refuted when someone from Saints say that he is under contract....
u saint people dont get it do u
if hes out of contract and wants to leave to carlton then u get nothing hes certainly not worth a top 5 pick in this draft but its not a matter of if hes for sale or not if hes out of contract and he wants to go u cant stop him
C4[2]Yo`DooR
15 Sep 2006, 19:30
No one really answered the question as to whether he is under contract. If not and he wants to go to Carlton in the PSD there is nothing the Saints can do. Remember Nick Stevens from Port Adelaide.
Rumours abound but heard that the deal is already done. Can only be refuted when someone from Saints say that he is under contract....
he is out of contract. FACT
TheGeneral
15 Sep 2006, 19:33
Goddard is a pick #1 with three years of match conditioning and three preseasons under his belt. Still has 10 + years as an elite of the AFL.
You would need a pick #1 plus another first round pick and a second or third round pick.
Dream on.
You can't afford him.
What could Carlton offer any top footballer except years of pain and promises of paper bags that they never pay?
Pot calling the kettle black.
Timmy from Thomastown
15 Sep 2006, 20:48
Goddard certainly is not worth the number 1 pick in this years draft. .\
Yes he is.
whippersnipper
15 Sep 2006, 21:05
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Yes he is.
Not in this year's draft, not a player that hasn't really shown as much as say a Cooney, or even a Deledio. Top ten pick for sure, but the number one pick in a gun draft is simply asking too much.
sainter
15 Sep 2006, 21:08
Yes Blues fans. If BJ decides to walk he'll go to Carlton in the pre-season draft.
It just won't happen. :p
smelly cat
17 Sep 2006, 20:40
Goddard certainly is not worth the number 1 pick in this years draft. Agree he probably isnt worth 19 and Holihan, but thats going too far. He has been serviceable, but not spectacular. Give me some statistics to prove he is worth even the number 1 pick. Doesn't look like a matchwinner yet. Your idea of pick 1, plus another first round pick, plus a second or third round pick is one of the single most laughable ideas I have ever heard anyone, let alone a mod, ever post. What could we offer him? The chance to be a part of a midfield in his boyhood team consisting of Murphy, Walker, Simpson, (soon to be) Gibbs and him. In four or five years time, when we have switched places, you will see what I mean.
I know I'll cop abuse just for agreeing with this guy, but I think he is spot on.
evertonfc
17 Sep 2006, 23:57
pick 17, fisher and stevens?
Gee, now you're talking. I'd just about do that if Goddard baulks at a new deal.
We'd certainly ask for your Pick 1, but the above offer isn't the worst I've seen.
Goddard + 27 for 17, Stevens & Simpson/Waite is what we'd probably ask for.
Doubt you'd accept. But worth a thought.
Fehring
18 Sep 2006, 00:42
BJ is staying with the Saints. Roo is staying with the Saints. They're all staying with the Saints. Go home to your families.
The Punter
18 Sep 2006, 12:33
u saint people dont get it do u
if hes out of contract and wants to leave to carlton then u get nothing hes certainly not worth a top 5 pick in this draft but its not a matter of if hes for sale or not if hes out of contract and he wants to go u cant stop him
No, we get it. We just don't agree with you that he wants to go to Carlton. He did, once.
I don't think Carlton are winning a flag before Goddard retires, and I realise Goddard is only 21. Carlton are the worst on-field club since Fitzroy disappeared.
Aaron Hamill did leave a good club for a poor one for the money, but there is one factor you are forgetting: John Elliott.
I believe Goddard will sign a contract before trade week.
Bourky23
18 Sep 2006, 13:05
BJ is staying with the Saints. Roo is staying with the Saints. They're all staying with the Saints. Go home to your families.
amen to that
whippersnipper
18 Sep 2006, 13:17
No, we get it. We just don't agree with you that he wants to go to Carlton. He did, once.
I don't think Carlton are winning a flag before Goddard retires, and I realise Goddard is only 21. Carlton are the worst on-field club since Fitzroy disappeared.
Aaron Hamill did leave a good club for a poor one for the money, but there is one factor you are forgetting: John Elliott.
I believe Goddard will sign a contract before trade week.
He wont win one at St Kilda either.
Take a chill pill dude. Does it look like I'm trolling? All I asked was whether or not he was out of contract that all- you dont need to make stupid remarks like that. I suggest you take your head out of your ar$e next time.
About as much chance as you getting a root.
whippersnipper
18 Sep 2006, 14:06
About as much chance as you getting a root.
You North suppoerter are little weeds, aren't you? Just because your team's supporter have a beef with me on another board, you take it onto a completely different team's board and make nasty, classless statements like that. You are pathetic, just like your team. Enjoy the trip up to the Gold Coast.
You North suppoerter are little weeds, aren't you? Just because your team's supporter have a beef with me on another board, you take it onto a completely different team's board and make nasty, classless statements like that. You are pathetic, just like your team. Enjoy the trip up to the Gold Coast.
You're overrating your own importance a little by the bolded part.You have no chance of getting Goddard, unless you throw 'funny' money at him.Oh thats right, you haven't got anymore.My 'root' comment was more based on the fact that you're a knob, and that would be a highly irregular thing for you to achieve at the worst of times.But then you are Carlton, and f*ck the rest, even though oddly enough it is the rest of the competition who has f*cked you. ;)
HavUEvaSeenTheRain
18 Sep 2006, 15:36
if Goddard wanted to go to Carlton then St Kilda wouldnt get anything. Goddard would walk and get picked up in the PSD. why would he want to be traded to carlton when he wouldnt have to be all that would do is weaken his new club. still it doesnt matter Goddard is going nowhere. By the way Goddard has probaly the worst number 1 pick from the last five years and you are saying he is worth number 1 in this draft hahaha use are as biased as the Carlton board.
whippersnipper
18 Sep 2006, 15:37
You're overrating your own importance a little by the bolded part.You have no chance of getting Goddard, unless you throw 'funny' money at him.Oh thats right, you haven't got anymore.My 'root' comment was more based on the fact that you're a knob, and that would be a highly irregular thing for you to achieve at the worst of times.But then you are Carlton, and f*ck the rest, even though oddly enough it is the rest of the competition who has f*cked you. ;)
Why would a random Gold Coast Kangaroos supporter come on to a foreign , neutral board just to have a dig at me over something which has nothing to do with your team? Wait a couple of years mate, when you paupers are on the bottom of the ladder, we will see who's boss.
MCG-Unit
18 Sep 2006, 15:39
Take a chill pill dude. Does it look like I'm trolling? All I asked was whether or not he was out of contract that all- you dont need to make stupid remarks like that. I suggest you take your head out of your ar$e next time.
You've got a hide offering pick 17 and Houlihan for Goddard :eek: - that's a troll alright
What, offer someone expendable, that you don't really want, for a player who just had his best season and ready to bloom -
How would you feel if I put up pick 27 and Fiora for Murphy - Outraged, insulted ?? An okay outside player for a gun. Dreamer
At least poster 'Brad Pearce' offered something realistic - #17, Stevens & Fisher
Tyre kicker..........:thumbsd:
Why would a random Gold Coast Kangaroos supporter come on to a foreign , neutral board just to have a dig at me over something which has nothing to do with your team? I have been on this board several times.Ironically several times before BigFooty had ever had the dispeasure of knowing who Whackermyslapper was. :) Wait a couple of years mate, when you paupers are on the bottom of the ladder, we will see who's boss.
Oh, the ifs and buts retort? Hahaha pure class. :thumbsu: :eek: :thumbsd:
You've got a hide offering pick 17 and Houlihan for Goddard :eek: - that's a troll alright
No, I'd lay odds he was actually serious even though I know thats hard to believe.Some people are just that stupid mate. :)
MCG-Unit
18 Sep 2006, 16:20
No, I'd lay odds he was actually serious even though I know thats hard to believe.Some people are just that stupid mate. :)
Well I thought it was a lame troll, but you could well be right - maybe he is as dumb as s...:confused:
Next he might troll the Kangas board - find players Blues want to cull - then offer them up as trade -> say Chambers & Longmuir for one of Moran, Hale or McIntosh......:eek:
Orangewhip
18 Sep 2006, 17:48
I'd be stunned if Goddard went into the PSD.
garth p
18 Sep 2006, 19:32
Hey Sainters,
Just wanted to know whether Brendan Goddard is under contract for next year. Seems like he might be worth us hunting for if he isn't, the idea on our board is pick 19 and houlihan would do just nicely.
Thoughts?
Don't come on a Saints board and insult our intelligence. MORON.:mad: :mad:
MC_Gusto
18 Sep 2006, 21:58
goddard has signed
hardie hardie ha blue boys
The Old Dark Navy's
18 Sep 2006, 22:18
Gee, now you're talking. I'd just about do that if Goddard baulks at a new deal.
We'd certainly ask for your Pick 1, but the above offer isn't the worst I've seen.
Goddard + 27 for 17, Stevens & Simpson/Waite is what we'd probably ask for.
Doubt you'd accept. But worth a thought.If it were up to me, I wouldn't do the Simpson/Waite bit but I would consider doing the #17, Stevens and Fisher bit.
#17 is an unknown although we would be looking at a ruckman there. Stevens is jaded and I think he wants out. Was a frontrunner for the captaincy before this year and has been overtaken by Lance and Fev. Fisher is the best mark in our side and might be a chance to be reinvented as a half back. Gets the ball, is fearless but his kicking for goal is terrible. Might be able to overcome that because his field kicking is nowhere near as bad as his goalkicking.
We know Stevens is a good player when in a good side. We know Fisher is a great mark and finds the ball. We know that #17 is probably akin to #10 in this years draft.
For our part, Goddard is starting to show signs of reading the play very well as he was originally touted to do, is a good overhead mark, links well and is hard at it.
Fish could be squeezed out of our side as a forward because Kennedy, Waite, Fev and Betts can't really play anywhere else.
The Old Dark Navy's
18 Sep 2006, 22:56
Whippersnipper, if you were an opposition supporter on the Blues board, I would have banned you long ago. It's their board man, pull your head in.
goddard has signed
hardie hardie ha blue boys
Couldn't find anything on St.Kilda's website. Prepared to post a link to backup your claim?
sainter
18 Sep 2006, 23:44
Whippersnipper, if you were an opposition supporter on the Blues board, I would have banned you long ago. It's there board man, pull your head in.
Thanks ODN.
Consider this your first and last warning Whippersnipper. Sometimes I think we're too tolerant here.
dutchy12
19 Sep 2006, 00:20
saw all the st kilda boys out the other night drowning their sorrows. Intresting to note BJ was not there.
sainter
19 Sep 2006, 00:23
Keep that attitude Whippersnipper and it won't just be this board that you're banned from.
Jimthegreat
19 Sep 2006, 00:23
If it were up to me, I wouldn't do the Simpson/Waite bit but I would consider doing the #17, Stevens and Fisher bit.
#17 is an unknown although we would be looking at a ruckman there. Stevens is jaded and I think he wants out. Was a frontrunner for the captaincy before this year and has been overtaken by Lance and Fev. Fisher is the best mark in our side and might be a chance to be reinvented as a half back. Gets the ball, is fearless but his kicking for goal is terrible. Might be able to overcome that because his field kicking is nowhere near as bad as his goalkicking.
We know Stevens is a good player when in a good side. We know Fisher is a great mark and finds the ball. We know that #17 is probably akin to #10 in this years draft.
For our part, Goddard is starting to show signs of reading the play very well as he was originally touted to do, is a good overhead mark, links well and is hard at it.
Fish could be squeezed out of our side as a forward because Kennedy, Waite, Fev and Betts can't really play anywhere else.
Goddard, while he's certainly had a decent year, isn't that good I'd give up all that. Not for a guy that never has an opponent, picks up easy kicks and isn't that hard. We have enough of those in our side already. The very mention of the name "Goodard" produces this obsession and paralysis of the brain amongst Carlton supporters after 2002. When he's name comes up, our supporters just simply need to get hold of a cold spoon and settle down. They think he's something he's not. If we got him that year we may have missed out on Simmo, and I know who I'd want. Fisher, no way, he provides something a different with his marking. Why give him to someone else. Like Stewie Loewe, he can improve his goalkicking. He and Waite can rotate through the midfield or even in defence, if they have to. If Goddard comes through the PSD, terrific, but I don't want to be giving up players or picks for him.
garth p
19 Sep 2006, 10:27
Whippersnipper, if you were an opposition supporter on the Blues board, I would have banned you long ago. It's their board man, pull your head in.
Glad you said that otherwise you would have lost what little credibility you had with me.
You banned me from the Carlton board for getting offended that an offer of a burnt out Lappin and pick 30 something was offensive....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Will acknowlege that Lappin did play some good games this year after a terrible 05 though. Still BJ will be a future captain of the St Kilda football club and a 200 games plus player.
ps. He has re-signed..Badluck guys. Guess you will be back with the same old same old, next year. Losers.
AndrewJo
19 Sep 2006, 12:12
Glad you said that otherwise you would have lost what little credability you had with me.
You banned me from the Carlton board for getting offended that an offer of a burnt out Lappin and pick 30 something was offensive....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Will acknowlege that Lappin did play some good games this year after a terrible 05 though. Still BJ will be a future captain of the St Kilda football club and a 200 games plus player.
ps. He has re-signed..Badluck guys. Guess you will be back with the same old same old, next year. Losers.
Source? Are you sure it is not resigned?
Source? Are you sure it is not resigned?
it came from today's age. only in printed form not online it came from the article regarding thomas and the not signing Hille in 2003.
garth p
19 Sep 2006, 15:25
Source? Are you sure it is not resigned?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
MC_Gusto
19 Sep 2006, 19:19
Couldn't find anything on St.Kilda's website. Prepared to post a link to backup your claim?
http://saints.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=298785
Goddard a Saint to '08
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BarryBreensOnePoint
19 Sep 2006, 19:40
Fantstic news, great to hear! Go BG
Baz
http://saints.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=298785
Goddard a Saint to '08
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Kildonan
19 Sep 2006, 21:29
From the blues board thread: Could we pinch some Saints?? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267847)
There is no need to trade anything in order to obtain the services of Goddard. He is out of contract and Carlton will pick him up in the pre season draft. Mark my word, its a done deal
Marked, Blueboy43. You now have a lot of dignity riding on this call. ;)
BB43 this is the same thing I have heard. Seriously, lets hope our sources are right!!!!:thumbsu:
Deej, the kid still wants to come and we have told him we want him.
Deal has been worked out as money is not the issue, etc.. He sees the future.
We need to work it smartly though, so lets hope we don't stuff it up and you can buy the beers.
In lieu of recent announcement by the St Kilda FC, these claims show the credibility of some of the Carlton posters to be somewhat wanting.
garth p
19 Sep 2006, 23:31
From the blues board thread: Could we pinch some Saints?? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267847)
In lieu of recent announcement by the St Kilda FC, these claims show the credibility of some of the Carlton posters to be somewhat wanting.
Well deej and slurrey certainly know how to talk rubbish, but they never had much credibility.
glad you bookmarked those comments though.
'Bj wanting to go to carscum, sure. we believe you.:rolleyes: :thumbsd:
Thornton, Fisher at odds with Blues
Stephen Rielly
September 20, 2006
KEY-POSITION Blues Bret Thornton and Brad Fisher are in dispute with Carlton over new deals, with Thornton believed to be the primary target of several clubs who are looking to shore up their defences.
On the day that Carlton president Graham Smorgon announced a board edict forbidding the recruitment of players who are either over 24 or cannot be expected to play at least 100 games for the club, it emerged that the club had a genuine struggle on its hands to retain two of its better young players.
Anthony McConville, manager of both players, said he met club officials last week but got no closer to resolving an impasse that, for Thornton at least, has existed for several months. It is believed Thornton has been offered about $210,000 a season for two years by Carlton but has at least one financially superior three-year offer before him.
"At this stage, we're a long way apart and it's up to Carlton to bridge the gap. That's where it's at," McConville said. "There are two-year deals on the table for both but that's about as much as they've offered. If that's their call, that's their call, but I think the marketplace will make a different call."
:D
Fehring
20 Sep 2006, 12:33
As I said three days ago...
BJ is staying with the Saints. Roo is staying with the Saints. They're all staying with the Saints. Go home to your families.
Now, please. Take a wander back to the reality that is Princes Park.
sainter
21 Sep 2006, 04:50
Thanks for that Stkildonan. :D
I've got no problems with Blues fans wanting BJ to join their club. He supported them as a kid and he's coming off a career best season with stacks of improvement still to come.
You do have to wonder why people would go to the effort of claiming done deals when they really have no idea.
Now, Fisher or Thornton. I think most would lean towards Fisher but Thornton is a key defender that would thrive at a club where he could be third tall rather than be the #1 key defender. Brett Thornton to St Kilda. It's a done deal.
SpInNeR
21 Sep 2006, 19:16
i hate carlton supporters....
Axcellence
21 Sep 2006, 20:30
From the blues board thread: Could we pinch some Saints?? (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267847)
In lieu of recent announcement by the St Kilda FC, these claims show the credibility of some of the Carlton posters to be somewhat wanting.
I note the word "somewhat".
The tools have the guts to come in the day after grant thomas is sacked and look for Goddard for cheap. I am not a violent person - but I was damn pissed off!!!!
Well deej and slurrey certainly know how to talk rubbish, but they never had much credibility.
I was the one who said he was little to no chance to leave stkilda, or did you miss that?
I also said it wouldn't have surprised me if BJ signed to stkilda for life that day.
The only person with a credibility issue it seems is you.
i hate carlton supporters....
Then you need to get a life, AFL isn't that important, you do realise that dont you?
Kildonan
22 Sep 2006, 22:14
I was the one who said he was little to no chance to leave St Kilda, or did you miss that?
No - we didn't miss that - You and Funky both were realistic.
Kildonan
22 Sep 2006, 22:25
Then you need to get a life, AFL isn't that important, you do realise that dont you?
But AFL does manage to stir the passions, doesn't it?
(As long as it isn't all taken too seriously).
I'd probably have more in common with a Carlton supporter than a Newcastle Knights supporter or some "other sport" fanatic.
That said, Carlton has an infamous relationship with the Saints and, by virtue of the then incumbent Presidents' actions and words, have a huge karma deficit still to pay. :)
SpInNeR
23 Sep 2006, 00:17
Then you need to get a life, AFL isn't that important, you do realise that dont you?
what would you like for me to talk about on a forum called BIGFOOTY???
...you clearly didnt think about your reply when you postd it. Didnt you???
garth p
25 Sep 2006, 11:20
what would you like for me to talk about on a forum called BIGFOOTY???
...you clearly didnt think about your reply when you postd it. Didnt you???
Don't worry about him. The guys a tool. Always was, always will be. Just ask ythe guys and gals on" Talking Carlton".
And trolling this site shows him to be a fool as well.:D :thumbsd:
Don't worry about him. The guys a tool. Always was, always will be. Just ask ythe guys and gals on" Talking Carlton".
And trolling this site shows him to be a fool as well.:D :thumbsd:
I wasn't trolling i was making a comment on a topic that at the time i was interested in. In fact i'm not sure i'd even have commented in this forum had my name not been brought up by someone else first.
Re me being a tool, each to their own, everyone can make up their own mind. Mentioning talking carlton regulars though is hardly going to give me sleepless nights, i can assure you. Wow some internet tragics dont like me, woe is me, where's the razor....