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According to the ever relaible Hutchy on Seven news.
Apparently Sheeds is in Perth 'courting' Gardiner to Essendon?
He's one player that i really am trying to work out why we would need?
mcphee_is_a_gun
15 Sep 2006, 19:36
According to the ever relaible Hutchy on Seven news.
Apparently Sheeds is in Perth 'courting' Gardiner to Essendon?
He's one player that i really am trying to work out why we would need?
Laycock and Cartledge leaving?
surely not, i would be dam annoyed if he was in red&black next year
go_the_bombers
15 Sep 2006, 19:37
According to the ever relaible Hutchy on Seven news.
Apparently Sheeds is in Perth 'courting' Gardiner to Essendon?
He's one player that i really am trying to work out why we would need?
Properly just wanted to meet him to see how his going and stuff
DonsRule
15 Sep 2006, 20:05
According to the ever relaible Hutchy on Seven news.
Apparently Sheeds is in Perth 'courting' Gardiner to Essendon?
He's one player that i really am trying to work out why we would need?
Reading Bomber Blitz earlier, Sheeds was on the Radio this mornin, amoungs other things he said he was going to have a chat to Gairdner to "see what he was about"
There is absolutely no harm in talking to ALL prospective recruits.
just because you are meeting with some , doesnt mean you will draft/trade for them.
I would be disapointed if after the season we have had, we were not looking at EVERY player who is available.
I also think that if we were really keen on him, Sheeds wouldn't be announcing it, but trying to keep it quiet
DonsRule
15 Sep 2006, 21:09
There is absolutely no harm in talking to ALL prospective recruits.
just because you are meeting with some , doesnt mean you will draft/trade for them.
I would be disapointed if after the season we have had, we were not looking at EVERY player who is available.
I also think that if we were really keen on him, Sheeds wouldn't be announcing it, but trying to keep it quiet
Agreed.
Depends on exactly what else Sheeds has in store, too. If as some have said above, Sheeds is considering trading Laycock and/or Cartlige, it could be a reason to speak to him.
I hope not, i cant see how we need a washed up ruckman who spends most of his time playing forward. But i suppose Bendigo will be a better side with another tall forward target .........
The Dustbin
15 Sep 2006, 22:31
There is absolutely no harm in talking to ALL prospective recruits.
just because you are meeting with some , doesnt mean you will draft/trade for them.
I would be disapointed if after the season we have had, we were not looking at EVERY player who is available.
I also think that if we were really keen on him, Sheeds wouldn't be announcing it, but trying to keep it quiet
Second that. :thumbsu:
Bender The Offender
15 Sep 2006, 22:41
i wouldn't care if gardiner comes to essendon:cool:
Darealrath
16 Sep 2006, 10:57
We'd probably have to take him in the ND because Carlton would be just about certainties to go for him in the PSD at this stage.
We'd probably have to take him in the ND because Carlton would be just about certainties to go for him in the PSD at this stage.
It will all unfold after trade week.Spider could be in the PSD, so Carlton would take him i would imagine.
I would be surprised if we were genuinly interested in Gardiner
dave_27
16 Sep 2006, 15:38
Given Sheedy's recent recruiting of 'good guys' to the club and clearing out of the likes of zantuck last year I wouldnt Gardiner fits the criteria.
What a scoop Hutchy!!! :eek:
Shame Sheeds said so himself (on SEN yesterday morning) that he was flying to Perth to meet with Gardiner "to get to know the person".
SydneyBomber
16 Sep 2006, 21:55
no thanks
Kangaboy
17 Sep 2006, 13:55
According to the ever relaible Hutchy on Seven news.
Apparently Sheeds is in Perth 'courting' Gardiner to Essendon?
He's one player that i really am trying to work out why we would need?
This is true. If you were watching the 5th quater on channel 10 you would have seen footage of sheedy and gardiner meeting.
go_the_bombers
17 Sep 2006, 13:58
This is true. If you were watching the 5th quater on channel 10 you would have seen footage of sheedy and gardiner meeting.
I didnt watch it
red+black
17 Sep 2006, 14:35
surely not, i would be dam annoyed if he was in red&black next year
i too would be annoyed if he was in me next year.
be terrible if we did pick him up, but maybe he'd be more prone to take the ruck at the start of each quarter, something that captain hille shies away from.
Longy413
17 Sep 2006, 14:45
If we are going to get him, why wouldn't we just offer West Coast a late pick for him?
They're getting rid of him anyway, then we can target someone else with our PSD pick.
sput1956
17 Sep 2006, 15:10
Does anyone else have the feeling that this is just a play to pressure Carlton regarding Gardiner and Leunberger?
Essendon securing Gardiner before the draft could see Gibbs drop to pick 2 as Carlton then make a preference for Leunberger.
I think the old master is at it again.
go_the_bombers
17 Sep 2006, 15:12
Does anyone else have the feeling that this is just a play to pressure Carlton regarding Gardiner and Leunberger?
Essendon securing Gardiner before the draft could see Gibbs drop to pick 2 as Carlton then make a preference for Leunberger.
I think the old master is at it again.
It wouldnt surprise me
Does anyone else have the feeling that this is just a play to pressure Carlton regarding Gardiner and Leunberger?
Essendon securing Gardiner before the draft could see Gibbs drop to pick 2 as Carlton then make a preference for Leunberger.
I think the old master is at it again.
That is certainly a possibility, but with Keating and Spider available, i think it's unlikely.
I think we will need to wait until trade week to see the true story
Im very hesitant on Gardiner....if we get him for nothing and pay him bottom dollar, could be worth a punt...but a 2 year contract at best. Very cautiously tho, Id hope they're looking at other discarded ruckmen first before zeroing in on Gardiner...much more riskier than some of our other senior pickups i.e Zantuck, Cupido, Allan, etc
Ruddiger
17 Sep 2006, 17:59
He can be a good player, but can't say I'm sad to see him leave.
Maybe he can focus more on his game in Melbourne and Hille could do with some help.
wazzabp
18 Sep 2006, 07:43
I'd take him on based on a decent medical report. Give him a 2 year deal on a performance based contract and see how he goes.
blumfieldisback
18 Sep 2006, 10:48
nah too injury prone. we should be targeting polak who isn't getting a game a freo.
dodgyJim
18 Sep 2006, 10:50
Don't know how I would feel about Gardy coming to Windy Hill.
If the club don't think Cartledge has it and Laycock is playing hardball with his contract, god knows why because he hasn't done much to give him any bargaining power, then we could lose 2 rucks.
That would leave Hille, Ryder and McKinnon. The club have big wraps on McKinnon and by picking up Gardiner that could give a few vital years of development to those two.
I reckon there is a possibility that Cartledge might stay as a backup ruck, obviously this depends on Laycock signing on though.
go team
18 Sep 2006, 11:03
I reckon Sheeds will wait till Gardy's played up a couple of years at Blues, before trading a third round pick in a few years.
kelvin_sheedy
18 Sep 2006, 11:30
nah too injury prone. we should be targeting polak who isn't getting a game a freo.
Polak is still a bit green as a CHB so I wouldn't want to take him. Seems a bit too chilled and laidback on the field.
Gardiner - No. Not sure why sheeds is sniffing around Perth for palyers we don't need or want.
sput1956
18 Sep 2006, 11:57
I actually think Gardiner could be a steal if youcan get him right. He has played some good footy in the past.
go_the_bombers
18 Sep 2006, 12:03
nah too injury prone. we should be targeting polak who isn't getting a game a freo.
Rodney Eade said Freo were not intrested in trading Polak!
blumfieldisback
18 Sep 2006, 13:36
Rodney Eade said Freo were not intrested in trading Polak!
yeah have u read Craig hutchisons gossip column on www.theage.com.au today
tales129
18 Sep 2006, 14:17
kevin sheedy is a mastermind......
this is the best plan that kevin has unveiled in years! in saying that the dons are looking at trying to pick up gardiner with a late national draft pick this will bluff carlton into picking up Luenberger with pick number one for two reasons 1. they desperatley need a ruckman
2. they wont be able to pick up gardiner with their number one pick in the preseason draft.
by bluffing carlton to take luenberger at number one this effectively gifts bryce gibbs to essendon!
very smart man is sheeds
blueheart
18 Sep 2006, 14:19
kevin sheedy is a mastermind......
this is the best plan that kevin has unveiled in years! in saying that the dons are looking at trying to pick up gardiner with a late national draft pick this will bluff carlton into picking up Luenberger with pick number one for two reasons 1. they desperatley need a ruckman
2. they wont be able to pick up gardiner with their number one pick in the preseason draft.
by bluffing carlton to take luenberger at number one this effectively gifts bryce gibbs to essendon!
very smart man is sheeds
Yep Denis is sure to take the bait:rolleyes:
go_the_bombers
18 Sep 2006, 14:28
yeah have u read Craig hutchisons gossip column on www.theage.com.au today
Nah i havent any good?
mcphee_is_a_gun
18 Sep 2006, 14:31
Nah i havent any good?
Polak position
FREMANTLE young gun Graham Polak appears certain to ask for a trade the moment the Dockers' campaign is over. Polak has struggled to hold down a spot this season, and was a late withdrawal from Friday night's clash against Melbourne. He has played just once since round 14. Hawthorn appears one possible destination given Polak lived with Trent
Croad while he played at the Dockers, but lowly Carlton and Essendon — with a dearth of key position players — will back themselves in to push him through to the
December draft.
go_the_bombers
18 Sep 2006, 14:34
Polak position
FREMANTLE young gun Graham Polak appears certain to ask for a trade the moment the Dockers' campaign is over. Polak has struggled to hold down a spot this season, and was a late withdrawal from Friday night's clash against Melbourne. He has played just once since round 14. Hawthorn appears one possible destination given Polak lived with Trent
Croad while he played at the Dockers, but lowly Carlton and Essendon — with a dearth of key position players — will back themselves in to push him through to the
December draft.
Thanks for that mate :thumbsu:
Intresting since Freo told Eade they didnt want to trade him!
Why is Sheedy involved? We have a recruiting department and surely it is their job to seek out young players. Sheedy is senior coach in the last year of his contract. He should not have a heavy involvement in this years draft picks IMO. Carlton wont fall for the silly Gardiner crap. They will select Gibbs pick 1- its as certain as taxes, feral collingwood supporters fighting EACH other, hair on Ron Jeremys back and Carlton continuing to implode.
kevin sheedy is a mastermind......
this is the best plan that kevin has unveiled in years! in saying that the dons are looking at trying to pick up gardiner with a late national draft pick this will bluff carlton into picking up Luenberger with pick number one for two reasons 1. they desperatley need a ruckman
2. they wont be able to pick up gardiner with their number one pick in the preseason draft.
by bluffing carlton to take luenberger at number one this effectively gifts bryce gibbs to essendon!
very smart man is sheeds
Doubt very much that will happen.
As stated in an earlier reply, there may also be spider and Keating available, so Carlton will have options.
Luenberger is an extremely talented ruckman, and really looks very impressive from what i have seen of him, but he wont solve Carltons Immediate ruck issues.
I would say that Carlton will probably pick Gibbs.
I'm not that disapointed now after seeing some of Gumbleton in the u18 championships.He looks a gun to me
Yep Denis is sure to take the bait:rolleyes:
Agree . Carlton are really going to draft an 18 year old ruckman with their first pick to solve next years ruck problems.
Longy413
18 Sep 2006, 17:27
Agree . Carlton are really going to draft an 18 year old ruckman with their first pick to solve next years ruck problems.
I've heard they are extremely interested in him and the word seems to be growing. We're a huge chance to get Gibbs at two.
I've heard they are extremely interested in him and the word seems to be growing. We're a huge chance to get Gibbs at two.
Would make for intersting news if it happened. :)
I am still 60/40 in favour of taking a good KP player first so im a little indiferent about Gibbs.
Philzsay
18 Sep 2006, 17:42
If we recruit Gardiner and Polak we may as well try to get Toby Thurstans as well :eek:
mcphee_is_a_gun
18 Sep 2006, 17:43
I've heard they are extremely interested in him and the word seems to be growing. We're a huge chance to get Gibbs at two.
I can see that happening, Leunberger is a very good talent. Im not even sure that Sheedy would pick Gibbs.
djharps
19 Sep 2006, 03:12
fellas please with the acusations!
gards is simply helping sheeds out with some charlie :p , plain a simple as that
blumfieldisback
19 Sep 2006, 11:10
kevin sheedy is a mastermind......
this is the best plan that kevin has unveiled in years! in saying that the dons are looking at trying to pick up gardiner with a late national draft pick this will bluff carlton into picking up Luenberger with pick number one for two reasons 1. they desperatley need a ruckman
2. they wont be able to pick up gardiner with their number one pick in the preseason draft.
by bluffing carlton to take luenberger at number one this effectively gifts bryce gibbs to essendon!
very smart man is sheeds
um what would stop carlton offering a better pick then ours, there one in front?????????????? and i would thin that carlton midfield kpp would be high on their priorities rather then another ruckman who is going to take 6 years to develop??? midfielders give more service and earlier too, to a club over a number of years then say a ruckman who may have an impact for 3-4 years.
e.g how long did matty primus, steven king, gardiner, jeff white, sandilands and cox take to have an impact on the afl field? then ask how many seasons they have made an impact. Jeff white is the only player who has consistently played well for a few years and even he had injury problems.
Ruckman are a huge risk with todays game, they certainly help win premierships but im not sure carlton could afford that expense over a gumbleton, hansen or gibbs.
Pevers-Legend
19 Sep 2006, 13:14
If we recruit Gardiner and Polak we may as well try to get Toby Thurstans as well :eek:
hmm - why would those three be linked. I wonder?:confused: :D
um what would stop carlton offering a better pick then ours, there one in front?????????????? and i would thin that carlton midfield kpp would be high on their priorities rather then another ruckman who is going to take 6 years to develop??? midfielders give more service and earlier too, to a club over a number of years then say a ruckman who may have an impact for 3-4 years.
e.g how long did matty primus, steven king, gardiner, jeff white, sandilands and cox take to have an impact on the afl field? then ask how many seasons they have made an impact. Jeff white is the only player who has consistently played well for a few years and even he had injury problems.
Ruckman are a huge risk with todays game, they certainly help win premierships but im not sure carlton could afford that expense over a gumbleton, hansen or gibbs.
Not really a fair comparison
Primus,King,Gardiner have all had a lot of injuries.
Primus played a massive role in Port being a top 4 team for years on end.
Cox has been a very good player for 3 years on end now and Sandilands for 2 in a row, but he is also quite young for a ruckman and just starting out.
I doubt Carlton would take Luenberger unless they traded for another top 6 pick, but the kid is a massive talent.