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FieldsOfOmar
14 Feb 2002, 05:10
Lets face it b4 the season had started the aussie public and media built this team to be invincible..Where are all the arrogant skips now????????? I am listening to 927 and the excuses for australia not making the vb series are laughable...Mind you the world cup victory was a fluke and they beat a team that was half drunk and threw away the game...So how good is it to see aussie cricket heading to glorious days of the 80's..I love it...oi oi oi.....Keep up the sooking and and the oi oi oi chants....

Cyclops
14 Feb 2002, 06:44
You shall have a fishy,
On a little dishy,
You will have a fishy,
When the boat comes in...

dogboy23
14 Feb 2002, 07:27
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
Lets face it b4 the season had started the aussie public and media built this team to be invincible..Where are all the arrogant skips now????????? I am listening to 927 and the excuses for australia not making the vb series are laughable...Mind you the world cup victory was a fluke and they beat a team that was half drunk and threw away the game...So how good is it to see aussie cricket heading to glorious days of the 80's..I love it...oi oi oi.....Keep up the sooking and and the oi oi oi chants.... Official world champions of test cricket and official world champions of one day cricket.Whos sooking?Nothing to sook about.We are the best and will be for a long time.Yes I have been baited.;)

Briedis
14 Feb 2002, 08:36
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
Lets face it b4 the season had started the aussie public and media built this team to be invincible..Where are all the arrogant skips now????????? I am listening to 927 and the excuses for australia not making the vb series are laughable...Mind you the world cup victory was a fluke and they beat a team that was half drunk and threw away the game...So how good is it to see aussie cricket heading to glorious days of the 80's..I love it...oi oi oi.....Keep up the sooking and and the oi oi oi chants....

Hey, at least they have been sucessful...unlike our soccer team who we should all just expect to lose the important games ....

SeinDude
14 Feb 2002, 14:11
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
Lets face it b4 the season had started the aussie public and media built this team to be invincible..Where are all the arrogant skips now????????? I am listening to 927 and the excuses for australia not making the vb series are laughable...Mind you the world cup victory was a fluke and they beat a team that was half drunk and threw away the game...So how good is it to see aussie cricket heading to glorious days of the 80's..I love it...oi oi oi.....Keep up the sooking and and the oi oi oi chants....


FieldsOfOmar,

Well, our record speaks for itself so there's no need for me to say anything!!!

However, if you're in any doubt about Australia's standing as the best cricket team in the world, take a tour to the MCG and get someone to show you the World Cup, the Ashes, the Sir Frank Worrell Trophy, the Trans-Tasman trophey, etc etc etc... ;);)

SeinDude

FieldsOfOmar
14 Feb 2002, 16:01
im an mcc member so i dont need a tour..i never said they werent the best did i? keep crying like u r now..lol..back to wonderful 80's we go...

SeinDude
14 Feb 2002, 17:02
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
im an mcc member so i dont need a tour..i never said they werent the best did i? keep crying like u r now..lol..back to wonderful 80's we go...

FieldsOfOmar,

The mistake you make "pal" is that not all Aussie cricket fans are crying over what happened this summer. I for one am looking at the bigger picture, and that is building up to next year's World Cup. Sure, I was disappointed we didn't perform better this summer, but such is life, we cant win all the time!!

For you to suggest that our past victories are "flukes" such as in the 1999 World Cup, is downright disrespectful and stupid on your part and just shows how little understanding you have for the game of cricket. ;);)

SeinDude

Player
14 Feb 2002, 18:41
Originally posted by SeinDude



FieldsOfOmar,

Well, our record speaks for itself so there's no need for me to say anything!!!

However, if you're in any doubt about Australia's standing as the best cricket team in the world, take a tour to the MCG and get someone to show you the World Cup, the Ashes, the Sir Frank Worrell Trophy, the Trans-Tasman trophey, etc etc etc... ;);)

SeinDude

Then fly them to Joberg to show them the VB trophy and Christchurch for the ICC World Knockout trophy.

New Zealand v Australia Summer 2001-02
Played 7, Won 3, Drawn 3, Lost 1.

SeinDude
14 Feb 2002, 21:04
Originally posted by Player


Then fly them to Joberg to show them the VB trophy and Christchurch for the ICC World Knockout trophy.

New Zealand v Australia Summer 2001-02
Played 7, Won 3, Drawn 3, Lost 1.


Player,

Yep, no doubt about it... New Zealand played very well this summer and I really enjoyed seeing them test Australia in areas they hadn't for a while. Areas such as tactics, planning and patience, it was very impressive and full credit must go to Stephen Flemming and his side for the way they played and their attitude. :)

SeinDude

FieldsOfOmar
15 Feb 2002, 17:41
Sein dude lets face it..the arrogancy of the people here in oz is a joke..Fair enough test cricket.>Australia is teh best team by a mile and well deserevd too..But as for one day i think the team needs a change but to sack the captain isnt the way to go..M.Waugh will be next and maybe warne..Pointing record is avg..Is there any more depth to the one day squad? mmmm

SeinDude
15 Feb 2002, 20:14
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
Sein dude lets face it..the arrogancy of the people here in oz is a joke..Fair enough test cricket.>Australia is teh best team by a mile and well deserevd too..But as for one day i think the team needs a change but to sack the captain isnt the way to go..M.Waugh will be next and maybe warne..Pointing record is avg..Is there any more depth to the one day squad? mmmm

FieldsOfOmar,

Lets look at Ponting's stats shall we...

Matches: 131
Innings: 131
Not Outs: 15
Runs: 4800
Highest Score: 145
Average: 41.37
Runs per 100 balls: 75.48
50's 28
100's 8
Catches: 42

I dont think Ricky Ponting's record is that bad do you??? To put it in perspective, the only Australian players with a better batting average then Ponting with more than 1000 runs are:

Michael Bevan: 5635 runs @ 56.91
Dean Jones: 6068 runs @ 44.61

SeinDude

FieldsOfOmar
16 Feb 2002, 03:33
i meant his recent record..it was funny watching him bat in india..

mrboy
16 Feb 2002, 08:02
its fun watching you be an idiot

The_Flying_Egg
16 Feb 2002, 12:20
Originally posted by Player


Then fly them to Joberg to show them the VB trophy and Christchurch for the ICC World Knockout trophy.

New Zealand v Australia Summer 2001-02
Played 7, Won 3, Drawn 3, Lost 1.

I suppose that outweighs the fact we're the current World Cup holders and the greatest test team in the world does it?? :confused: :confused:

BomberBoy
16 Feb 2002, 14:46
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
i meant his recent record..it was funny watching him bat in india..

Yeh its also funny that he was our best ODI player for the year :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Player
16 Feb 2002, 15:26
Originally posted by The_Flying_Egg


I suppose that outweighs the fact we're the current World Cup holders and the greatest test team in the world does it?? :confused: :confused:

So you don't claim Australia are the greatest One Day team in the world, didn't take long to concede that mantle did it.

FieldsOfOmar
16 Feb 2002, 17:00
Australia arnt the best one day in the world..what a load of crap..there is a least 4 teams that are on equal terms..and australia is the greatest test team..Pull out your stats about the winnign streak ... But beating the West Indies was a joke...The aussies will never be compared to the might of the West Indies in 80's and thats a fact

SeinDude
16 Feb 2002, 17:25
Originally posted by FieldsOfOmar
Australia arnt the best one day in the world..what a load of crap..there is a least 4 teams that are on equal terms..and australia is the greatest test team..Pull out your stats about the winnign streak ... But beating the West Indies was a joke...The aussies will never be compared to the might of the West Indies in 80's and thats a fact

FieldsOfOmar,

Who says anything about comparing teams from different eras???

There is no dount that the West Indies teams of the 1980's were awesome... I'm not arguing against that although interestingly, they never won a World Cup in that decade!! ;);)

India beat West Indies in 1983
Australia beat England in 1987

I guess we could be here for hours arguing over who is the best, I could bring out stat after stat but the bottom line is that it's all about winning the World Cup, the holy grail of International One-Day cricket. That is where teams are judged, under the extreme pressure of a tournament that decides the World Champions for the next 4 years. Everything else that happens in between those 4 years is in preparation for the next World Cup.

In the current day, the "present", Australia are the best one-day team in the world until we are no longer the World Cup holders. :):)

SeinDude ;)

Player
16 Feb 2002, 18:38
Originally posted by SeinDude
I could bring out stat after stat but the bottom line is that it's all about winning the World Cup, the holy grail of International One-Day cricket. That is where teams are judged, under the extreme pressure of a tournament that decides the World Champions for the next 4 years. Everything else that happens in between those 4 years is in preparation for the next World Cup.

In the current day, the "present", Australia are the best one-day team in the world until we are no longer the World Cup holders. :):)

SeinDude ;)

Do you actually believe any of this?

If so :eek: if not ;)

Dipper
16 Feb 2002, 19:56
Originally posted by SeinDude

However, if you're in any doubt about Australia's standing as the best cricket team in the world, take a tour to the MCG and get someone to show you the World Cup, the Ashes, the Sir Frank Worrell Trophy, the Trans-Tasman trophey, etc etc etc... ;);)

SeinDude


Well mate go & have a look round the MCG but I'd be VERY surprised if you can find the Ashes anywhere.;)

SeinDude
16 Feb 2002, 21:56
Originally posted by DIPPER



Well mate go & have a look round the MCG but I'd be VERY surprised if you can find the Ashes anywhere.;)

DIPPER,

Yeah, the real "Ashes" are kept at Lords in England. Lets hope they look at that arrangement in the near future although I guess that's the only way England get to keep them hey!! ;);)

SeinDude :)

Goldenblue
17 Feb 2002, 09:44
Originally posted by SeinDude


DIPPER,

Yeah, the real "Ashes" are kept at Lords in England. Lets hope they look at that arrangement in the near future although I guess that's the only way England get to keep them hey!! ;);)

SeinDude :)


SeinDude,

Me thinks that will never happen, it has been a topic discussed for many years even back in the days of the 48 Invincibles.

Back in 1910, South Africa, Australia and England all played for the Ashes and the Southern Africans even stated back then if they won the ashes, they would want to take them home too....

The_Flying_Egg
17 Feb 2002, 13:38
Originally posted by Player


So you don't claim Australia are the greatest One Day team in the world, didn't take long to concede that mantle did it.

No, no, I still think we're the greatest one day team in the world. The fact that for once we were actually beaten means very little. We hadn't lost in about 20 games at home, before this series, and after the bad start we won 3 of our last 4 games

As well as that every team won the same amount of games in the World Series, we had the best net run rate and we still didn't make the final. What a joke. We did no worste than New Zealand or South Africa. We were just very unlucky

The World Cup is where it matters and we'll most likely win that (again)

Groucho
17 Feb 2002, 14:31
Before this season Australia had won 18 out of their previous 21 ODI's. I don't know what other teams' records are over the same period but they would have to be pretty good to even match that. I think they can still lay a fair claim to being the best One Day team.

Player
17 Feb 2002, 15:01
New Zealand lost 4-1 to Sri Lanka, lost 2-1 to Zimbawae, were swept in South Africa and finished last in a tri-series with Sri Lanka and India.

Puts the Australian performance this summer into perspective wouldn't you think.

blurton
17 Feb 2002, 16:13
Originally posted by Player
New Zealand lost 4-1 to Sri Lanka, lost 2-1 to Zimbawae, were swept in South Africa and finished last in a tri-series with Sri Lanka and India.

Puts the Australian performance this summer into perspective wouldn't you think.
In case you've forgotten, Australia beat SA 3 zip in the tests and drew with NZ. NZ showed their true colors in the last part of the 1 day series. NZ must be the most injury prone side going around - why is that?

Player
18 Feb 2002, 14:14
Your right, New Zealand were completely outclassed by South Africa, but had no trouble being more than competitive against Australia.

Everybody has been slapping New Zealand around recently, except this "greatest team in the world" Australian side.

And injuries, how would your body be after 14 years of test/English county/first class cricket (Cairns), A life threatening car crash (Vettori), a serious back injury from rugby (Allott), a decade of stress fractures in the back (Nash).

Broken arsed they may be but more than keen to bowl, and they have to be, because there has never been any depth in New Zealand cricket.

SeinDude
18 Feb 2002, 18:10
Originally posted by Player
Your right, New Zealand were completely outclassed by South Africa, but had no trouble being more than competitive against Australia.

Everybody has been slapping New Zealand around recently, except this "greatest team in the world" Australian side.

And injuries, how would your body be after 14 years of test/English county/first class cricket (Cairns), A life threatening car crash (Vettori), a serious back injury from rugby (Allott), a decade of stress fractures in the back (Nash).

Broken arsed they may be but more than keen to bowl, and they have to be, because there has never been any depth in New Zealand cricket.


Player,

I was very impressed with Shane Bond and James Franklin in the one-day series. Shane Bond could be the next "big thing" in New Zealand bowling since the great Sir Richard Hadlee!! I know that's a big call, but he has the pace and the ability to move the ball off the pitch and in the air to trouble the better batting line-ups around world cricket and actually can bowl genuine wicket taking deliveries.

I hope for New Zealand's and also the game's sake that he doesn't get any serious injuries as he could be the man that bowls the Kiwis to many more wins in the future. :)

I see New Zealand lead 2-0 against the Poms with 3 to play in their one-day series in New Zealand and bowled them out for 80 odd last match. :)

SeinDude