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Bender The Offender
18 Sep 2006, 13:21
Which of the above is the best going around at the moment

Barnsey3150
18 Sep 2006, 13:31
You should have had Lucas in there and not Lloyd as Lucas kicked 69 goals for a career best and 4th on the leaderboard this year and Lloyd has been injured since round 3

Bender The Offender
18 Sep 2006, 13:32
some of these full forwards i was not sure about such as Brad Johnson, Mark Williams, Justin Longmuir, Warren Tredrea, Scott Welsh, Daniel Bradshaw,
i thourght that maybe Chris Grant, J.Brown could of gone instead of Bradshaw and Johnson
Some of these ideas maybe stupid

Bender The Offender
18 Sep 2006, 13:33
You should have had Lucas in there and not Lloyd as Lucas kicked 69 goals for a career best and 4th on the leaderboard this year and Lloyd has been injured since round 3

lloyd is essendon's FF they can still of not played many games:)
Lucas is really our CHF

Yello Mit
18 Sep 2006, 13:37
Justin Longmuir. Oh yeah!

goal sneak
18 Sep 2006, 13:39
Dead heat between Kingsley and longmuir

Bender The Offender
18 Sep 2006, 13:40
:o even though lloyd has been injured for the season i still think he is the best going around because he was awesome before he got injured

Barnsey3150
18 Sep 2006, 13:41
Lloyd was at the start of the session till injury.
Fev was most consistant but only goal kicker Carlton had...prob still the best though

Cynic
18 Sep 2006, 14:26
Longmuire?

Also Fevola and Lloyd were the only two options needed.

Bourky23
18 Sep 2006, 14:30
All Aboard!!!! Wooo Wooo

delirious1
18 Sep 2006, 14:51
Tarrant is not a full forward, neither is lucas, hes a center half forward

blues4flag
18 Sep 2006, 14:51
Can't go past the Coleman medalist.

TigerGlory
18 Sep 2006, 15:05
Cant go past big Richo...

Bender The Offender
18 Sep 2006, 15:15
Tarrant is not a full forward, neither is lucas, hes a center half forward

who is there FF

Snuka
18 Sep 2006, 17:03
some of these full forwards i was not sure about such as Brad Johnson, Mark Williams, Justin Longmuir, Warren Tredrea, Scott Welsh, Daniel Bradshaw,
i thourght that maybe Chris Grant, J.Brown could of gone instead of Bradshaw and Johnson
Some of these ideas maybe stupid

Nah, your right on Bradshaw, plays FF, even when Brown is in the team but occasionally swaps. Tredrea and Hall are a little iffy too as to where they play.

I went with Lloyd, the guys amazing, kicks goals no matter what. Maybe Fev in a couple of years.

delirious1
18 Sep 2006, 17:08
who is there FF
lloyd and rocca

delirious1
18 Sep 2006, 17:09
Fevola
Hall
Lloyd
Williams/Johnson


would be my top 5

KING-JAMES
18 Sep 2006, 17:35
LLoyd is clearly the best in my opinion his kicked over 70 goals in over a long period compared to Fevs one year.

judburyjets
18 Sep 2006, 17:38
You should have had Lucas in there and not Lloyd as Lucas kicked 69 goals for a career best and 4th on the leaderboard this year and Lloyd has been injured since round 3
He kicked 67, but i am hearing you.

SnowyCasanova
18 Sep 2006, 17:48
fevola has had one very good year and one good year - llyod on the other hand has been stellar his whole career - ignore the 'cheap free kicks' and look in the goals column - LLOYD

Drummond
18 Sep 2006, 18:13
Welsh.

Easy.

Cassius_Clay
18 Sep 2006, 18:16
Tarrant is a HFF

When will people realise this?

Drummond
18 Sep 2006, 18:18
Tarrant is a HFF

When will people realise this?
Whatever he is, isn't much good. ;)

matty_hawk
18 Sep 2006, 18:23
Strauchanie... no seriously. this year a man has a medal as proof. over all... out of the full forwards playing. llyod has had the best career.
on another note i can see about 6 choices that are not full forwards. thats if u count kingsly as an AFL player let alone a full forward.

footy_rulz
18 Sep 2006, 18:25
Kent Kingsley...WTF???

blues4flag
18 Sep 2006, 18:55
fevola has had one very good year and one good year - llyod on the other hand has been stellar his whole career - ignore the 'cheap free kicks' and look in the goals column - LLOYD

Fev's last four seasons:
63 goals in 03
66 goals in 04
49 goals in 05
84 goals in 06
262 goals in 82 games (3.2 per game)

Lloyd's last four (disregarding 06 b/c of injuries):
47 goals in 02
93 goals in 03
96 goals in 04
59 goals in 05
295 in 82 games (3.6 per game)

Although Lloyd is on top (not by a hell of a lot), Fev has had two very good years, and one excellent year. Also, Lloyd is almost 3 years older than Fevola, whilst Lloyd has had much better delivery over the course of his career. And, IMO, Lloyd is past his best (not saying he won't be good, far from it, but I doubt he'll ever get back to his best and kick 90+ goals in a season) while Fev still hasn't reached it and still has improvement left in him. Undoubtedly Lloyd has had a better career, but the thread is about who is best at the moment, and IMO Fev is better now and will be going into the future.

The_Flying_Egg
19 Sep 2006, 12:01
Fevola
Hall
Lloyd
Williams/Johnson


would be my top 5

You've got Mark Williams and Brad Johnson level :confused: I dunno if Johnson should be in this thread, cos he's not neccesarily a full forward, but if you're gonna include him on your list do everyone a favour and don't have the All Australian captain level with a guy who got dropped during the season. Please, above all it reflects poorly on you

ManWithNoName
19 Sep 2006, 12:48
Lloyd is still easily the best FF in the comp.

Jeremias
19 Sep 2006, 13:17
The poll asks who is the best going around at the moment.

Hard to go past Fev, the Coleman medallist. Whilst Lloyd has been better, there is no guarantee he will ever be as good again as he once was, so at the moment the best FF is Fev without a doubt.

demonfire
19 Sep 2006, 19:10
the last 5 weeks neitz has been in awesome form. so id say neitz. over the whole year you cant go past fevola

Bombers1234
19 Sep 2006, 19:16
Fev's last four seasons:
63 goals in 03
66 goals in 04
49 goals in 05
84 goals in 06
262 goals in 82 games (3.2 per game)

Lloyd's last four (disregarding 06 b/c of injuries):
47 goals in 02
93 goals in 03
96 goals in 04
59 goals in 05
295 in 82 games (3.6 per game)

Although Lloyd is on top (not by a hell of a lot), Fev has had two very good years, and one excellent year. Also, Lloyd is almost 3 years older than Fevola, whilst Lloyd has had much better delivery over the course of his career. And, IMO, Lloyd is past his best (not saying he won't be good, far from it, but I doubt he'll ever get back to his best and kick 90+ goals in a season) while Fev still hasn't reached it and still has improvement left in him. Undoubtedly Lloyd has had a better career, but the thread is about who is best at the moment, and IMO Fev is better now and will be going into the future.

in both 02 and 05 Lloyd missed the best part of the season due to injury

Bender The Offender
19 Sep 2006, 21:25
in both 02 and 05 Lloyd missed the best part of the season due to injury

agreed lloyd is better than fev

sherminator
19 Sep 2006, 22:27
I am surprised Bradshaw wasn't picked much. He kicked 59 goals and in the absence of Brown was usually double to triple teamed, because the rest of the forward line had no idea what to do :p

I also recall him been quadriple teamed in one quarter later in the season.

Bourky23
19 Sep 2006, 22:28
nah nah its all about the train

Boris_Bewick
20 Sep 2006, 00:26
Poor Warren Tredrea, can't even manage a joke vote

whippersnipper
20 Sep 2006, 07:23
Ian Prendergast

Bender The Offender
22 Sep 2006, 10:46
i don't see how some people are saying Fev is better than Lloyd:eek:

trueblue_91
22 Sep 2006, 15:33
i don't see how some people are saying Fev is better than Lloyd:eek:

THis is probbly because of his injury. No one knows how well he will play next season so thats why many people are voting fev.
IMO I reckon Loyd is still the better forward but there both guns

jnash196
22 Sep 2006, 17:36
I have noticed when it comes to a debate between Fev and Lloyd, Carlton fans use the argument that Fev has worse delivery from midfield and is thus the better forward at all other discussions and threads when one bags Carlton's midfield the Carlton fans bag Essendon's midfield saying that the two are similar meaning that Lloyd, in their opinion, also has crappy delivery. It is time for Carlton supporters to make up their mind and stop twisting details to make them look like a better team.

In Round 1 this year Lloyd kicked more goals than the whole Carlton team did in Round 22.

Thrawn
23 Sep 2006, 01:59
I have noticed when it comes to a debate between Fev and Lloyd, Carlton fans use the argument that Fev has worse delivery from midfield and is thus the better forward at all other discussions and threads when one bags Carlton's midfield the Carlton fans bag Essendon's midfield saying that the two are similar meaning that Lloyd, in their opinion, also has crappy delivery.

Where so?

Lloyd would've done similar if we were not injuried this year and has had the better career. From what I've seen most are depending on future output for their argument.

Serious hamstring injuries are hard to recover from, and can affect your kicking accuracy and running. Some are doubtful that Lloyd can maintain his form he shown before injury.

In Round 1 this year Lloyd kicked more goals than the whole Carlton team did in Round 22.

In Round 19 this year Fevola kicked more goals than the whole Essendon team did in Round 10.

This has no bearing on the argument at all. Most irrelevant sentence ever.

The best FF this year has been Fevola. He will be the reigning Coleman medalist and will have stiff competition next year from Lloyd, Hall and possibly a few other names.

Thrawn
23 Sep 2006, 02:00
i don't see how some people are saying Fev is better than Lloyd:eek:

Lloyd's better but people are going to doubt his future output due to his injury. Fevola's got more time than him too, and dare I say it, maybe enough time when Murphy, Gibbs and co are at their peak. ;)

Ed_Gein
23 Sep 2006, 02:01
10 votes for Lynch? :confused: Some of you need your head checked.

jnash196
23 Sep 2006, 09:43
In Round 19 this year Fevola kicked more goals than the whole Essendon team did in Round 10.

This has no bearing on the argument at all. Most irrelevant sentence ever.

The best FF this year has been Fevola. He will be the reigning Coleman medalist and will have stiff competition next year from Lloyd, Hall and possibly a few other names.

In Round 1 Essendon played Sydney and in Round 22 Carlto played Sydney. In Round 19 Carlton played Hawthorn and in Round 10 Essendon played Adelaide. Do you see the relevance of my comment because I don't see the releveance in yours.

Yes Fev is the reigning Coleman medallist so technically he is the best full forward but that means that in 2000 the best FF was Cummings.

If the were both to play today Fev would be better.

Catnip
23 Sep 2006, 11:16
Lloyd is the best full forwad
Fevola the best full forward this year
Hall is the best full forward in the finals

and we aint got any of em DOH!

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 11:39
[quote=Catnip]Lloyd is the best full forwad
Fevola the best full forward this year
Hall is the best full forward in the finals

i agree with you fully on that one:thumbsu:

Keithy George
23 Sep 2006, 11:48
How has Mark Williams got more votes than Hall, Gehrig, Neitz????? :eek: :confused:

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 12:47
How has Mark Williams got more votes than Hall, Gehrig, Neitz????? :eek: :confused:

williams is not even close to being as good as them:eek:

blues4flag
23 Sep 2006, 12:53
in both 02 and 05 Lloyd missed the best part of the season due to injury
And your point is? He only missed 2 games in 05 anyway, and each played an equal amount of games over the four years (82).

Picador
23 Sep 2006, 13:06
When Lloyd is fit daylight is second. Fev is a gun but not as good as Llyod.

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 13:27
And your point is? He only missed 2 games in 05 anyway, and each played an equal amount of games over the four years (82).

fev will never be as good as lloyd
never has, never will:cool:

Thrawn
23 Sep 2006, 14:00
In Round 1 Essendon played Sydney and in Round 22 Carlto played Sydney. In Round 19 Carlton played Hawthorn and in Round 10 Essendon played Adelaide. Do you see the relevance of my comment because I don't see the releveance in yours.

My comment simply showed that I can play the same game as you and that your comment adds nothing to the argument at all.

DaSawx
23 Sep 2006, 14:27
FWIW Lloyd is feeling better than ever and is extremely pleased with his recovery, he'll be fine next year.

Sure Lloydy has had a better career, goes without saying but Fev has also turned into one hell of a player

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 14:45
Sure Lloydy has had a better career, goes without saying but Fev has also turned into one hell of a player[/quote]

true

jnash196
23 Sep 2006, 15:13
My comment simply showed that I can play the same game as you and that your comment adds nothing to the argument at all.

But Sydney and Sydney are the same team. Adlaide in Round 10 was 1000 times better than Hawthorn in Round 19

westdog54
23 Sep 2006, 15:22
some of these full forwards i was not sure about such as Brad Johnson, Mark Williams, Justin Longmuir, Warren Tredrea, Scott Welsh, Daniel Bradshaw,
i thourght that maybe Chris Grant, J.Brown could of gone instead of Bradshaw and Johnson
Some of these ideas maybe stupid

No you're right, I'd leave Hall off the list as well, is he more of a CHF? I'll leave this open to debate

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 19:50
No you're right, I'd leave Hall off the list as well, is he more of a CHF? I'll leave this open to debate

yeah thats what i was thinking he does play up the ground alot

blues4flag
23 Sep 2006, 20:01
fev will never be as good as lloyd
never has, never will:cool:
Lloyd has certainly had a superior career, but still a long way to go. Fev will probably never have as good a career as Lloyd, because Lloyd was great as a kid. But I don't recall ever saying Fev was as good as Lloyd? However, I will say that they're not as far apart at the moment as you might think. I guess next season will tell (barring injury) who is the best at the moment? No doubt Lloyd has been better to date.

Bender The Offender
23 Sep 2006, 20:09
Lloyd has certainly had a superior career, but still a long way to go. Fev will probably never have as good a career as Lloyd, because Lloyd was great as a kid. But I don't recall ever saying Fev was as good as Lloyd? However, I will say that they're not as far apart at the moment as you might think. I guess next season will tell (barring injury) who is the best at the moment? No doubt Lloyd has been better to date.

we'll have to wait and see
next year will be interesting

Tyrone Biggums
23 Sep 2006, 23:46
I'm voting Fev cause hes more exiting. Lloyd is a great full forward ,but all he does is lead mark and kick goals . While Fevola kicks goals from 60-65m ,takes speccies and kicks some amazing goals from snaps.

Bender The Offender
24 Sep 2006, 09:58
I'm voting Fev cause hes more exiting. Lloyd is a great full forward ,but all he does is lead mark and kick goals . While Fevola kicks goals from 60-65m ,takes speccies and kicks some amazing goals from snaps.

but does that make him better
or just your favourite:confused:

Bender The Offender
24 Sep 2006, 20:26
lloyds had the better career for sure:thumbsu: