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Grimreepah
22 Sep 2006, 15:43
The 2005 draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_Draft)
Pick 9 Mitch Clark
Pick 25 Wayde Mills
Pick 41 Rhan Hooper
Pick 56 Joel Patfull
Obviously the players are still in the early stages of their development, but we have been fortunate enough to see all of them in action this year and can make some sort of assessment. Here are some questions to mull over, but feel free to add your own comments.
1. Who has impressed/disappointed? In hindsight what pick are they really worth?
2. Which players did we mistakenly overlook and with which pick should we have taken him?
3. What experiences from the 2005 draft can we learn from going into the 2006 draft?
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I wanted Swallow.
I was surprised that we picked up Wayde Mills at 25.
I had Andrew Swallow in the top 5. When he slipped and we did not pick him up with our pick 25 considering our need for hard running inside midfielders I thought Kenear Beatson will have a lot to answer. It is not surprising to me that 12 months later he was out the door. However only those on the inside will know the full story.
In 5 years time IMO it will emerge that North got the bargain of the 05 draft.
Picking Swallow with their pick 43.
Warwick
22 Sep 2006, 16:55
It is obviously very early to make a judgement on that group, but so far so good. If Murphy had decided to come to us it would have made that year outstanding. No doubt Clark will be player to watch, and hopefully he plays all of his football for the lions. I've been impressed with Patfull and Hooper has shown some very promising signs. Mills was drafted for need and should get more of a go in the backline next year.
If you look at the players that went after Mills, and before Hooper, i don't think we missed out on a genuine star. We have seen a lot more of the Brisbane players because of our injuries, and have seen a little bit of the others especially Lower and Vince, due to injury concerns at their clubs.
Andrew Swallow has played a fair bit this year and he went a couple of picks after Hooper. Although he looks like a decent player, i'm not going to slit my wrists because we got Hooper over him.
One player we should have nabbed was Clint Bartram. I'm also surprised we didn't go with Lucy, but i suppose Mills plays the same role.
If we had our time again, i would have gone:
9 - Clark
25 - Mills
41 - Swallow
56 - Bartram
I reckon Hooper would have lasted until the rookie draft.
No point to slit your wrists and I agree with you Hooper IMO would have been available for the rookie list. I don't believe he was on any other club's wanted list, however this is pure conjecture.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180648
interesting reading back.
konstas_87
22 Sep 2006, 17:28
hard to tell at this stage...
its funny that the lower 2 of the 4 have got the most game time :rolleyes:
hopefully mitch clark can get out on the park next year.
sherminator
22 Sep 2006, 17:54
1. Who has impressed/disappointed? In hindsight what pick are they really worth?
Impressed-
Mitch Clark- Stellar NAB Cup matches had me excited. His fitness, height, strength and smarts has CHAMPION written all over him. Unlucky to be struck down with OP.
Wayde Mills- Mills played directly from CHB this season. In his first match he broke even with S. Lucas (1.1, 17pos to Lucas. 14 posessions Mills). he had trouble containing Riewoldt in the next match. But in Rd 5, against WCE, he collected 12 makrs, 12 kicks, 6 handballs for a total of 18 disposals V. Staker.
Borderline-
Patfull- Has had some veyr good games as a defender this season. Maybe it is the fact that the midfield isn't flooding back to apply pressure or maybe it is his in experience because a majoirtyof his opponents have gotten the better of him.
Hooper- I can't decide with Hooper (or patfull) if I am dissapointed with him. He had a ripper game against St Kilda (kicked 4 goals 1 behind I think) but in other matches he ahs looked like a child in a mans game (getting 3 disposals and doing nothing with them). His tackling brings out the happier me. Once he has bulked up he'll be a mean, indigenous, tackling machine.
2. Which players did we mistakenly overlook and with which pick should we have taken him?
Andrew Swallow was pick 45, Hooper was pick 41 for Brisbane. I think Swallow would've been a good addition to our youn midfielder. Not sure though, i think Hooper will develop into a better play once he is bigger.
3. What experiences from the 2005 draft can we learn from going into the 2006 draft?
Take a gamble on injure players. Mitch Clark had mennigacoccal (sp?) scare befor the draft. He recovered well and was one of the favourites (Equal Murphy and Ryder) at Rd 1. Too bad he suffered from OP into the season.
Hypothetically, who would we have taken if Clark wasn't available at our pick? Difficult to say because you don't know who he would have replaced in the top 8 but I would have been pretty happy with any of Drum, Higgins, Jones and Hurn.
On the point of taking injured players, sometimes you roll the dice and win - Judd and hopefully Clark are prime examples. Other times though, it is a risky proposition. FWIW, I don't think Clark slid as far as he did because of injury. Imagine the flak the club would have copped if he turned out to be another Spaanderman!
Hypothetically, who would we have taken if Clark wasn't available at our pick?
Unofficially the word was, one of Birchil or Higgins,
brisbane1
24 Sep 2006, 12:17
No point to slit your wrists and I agree with you Hooper IMO would have been available for the rookie list. I don't believe he was on any other club's wanted list, however this is pure conjecture.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180648
interesting reading back.
Hooper was ineligable for the rookie draft as he was a bottom age player. have to be 18 or over.
sherminator
24 Sep 2006, 14:34
He'd have been very, very good this year (In U18) if we hadn't pick him up, but he'd have slipped to 56 anyways last year.
Vipertooth
25 Sep 2006, 00:06
The 2005 draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_AFL_Draft)
Pick 9 Mitch Clark
Pick 25 Wayde Mills
Pick 41 Rhan Hooper
Pick 56 Joel Patfull
Obviously the players are still in the early stages of their development, but we have been fortunate enough to see all of them in action this year and can make some sort of assessment. Here are some questions to mull over, but feel free to add your own comments.
1. Who has impressed/disappointed? In hindsight what pick are they really worth?
2. Which players did we mistakenly overlook and with which pick should we have taken him?
3. What experiences from the 2005 draft can we learn from going into the 2006 draft?
1) Clark, Hooper, Patfull all impressed me, Hooper needs to get to the ball more tho, but some of the 1 percent things he did was really good, very good at tackling as well, hard at the game! Also he showed he can mark well.
Clark Showed great marking and kicking for goal skills and will be awsome in his development next year!
Patfull, I thought was good since he did not really have much help from midfeilders throughout the season. He should develop into a good backman, not great but good enough to be a solid player.
Mills, I havnt really decided he had a few good games but he was too slow.
2) Andrew Swallow (Reasons already stated)
3)High picks arnt always the best players, it is possible to get good players further down if the draft is played smart!