Carlton's Best Side atm

[Kenneth]

Hey i thort tht i'd start a thread showing everyoe that carlton does hav a pretty descent side if pagan wuld put these players in these possitions. Here is my side:
B: Setanta O'hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Jason Saddington??

HB: Ryan Houlihan, Lance Whitnall, Andrew Walker

C: Nick Stevens, Anthony Koutoufides, Kade Simpson

HF: Eddie Betts, Jarrad Waite, Matthew Lappin

F: Bradley Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Josh Kennedy

FOLL: M.Leunbeurger??, Heath Scotland, Marc Murphy

I/C: Bryce Gibbs??, Andrew Carrazzo, Dylan McLaren, Adam Bentick

EMG: Luke Blackwell, Chris Bryan, Ryan Jackson

Feel free to let us know what changes you wuld do to this side

[marcmurphy3]

This would be my side for next year based on our current players current abilities + Gibbs who is probably the only draftee that we could already pencil into our side.

B: Setanta O'hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Bower

HB: Heath Scotland, Lance Whitnall, Nick Stevens

C: Bryce Gibbs, Anthony Koutoufides, Kade Simpson

HF: Bradley Fisher, Jarrad Waite, Matthew Lappin

F: Eddie Betts, Brendan Fevola, Josh Kennedy

FOLL: Chris Bryan, Andrew Walker , Marc Murphy

I/C: Luke Blackwell, Ryan houlihan , Dylan McLaren, Adam Bentick

[butchyboy]

Hey i thort tht i'd start a thread showing everyoe that carlton does hav a pretty descent side if pagan wuld put these players in these possitions. Here is my side:
B: Setanta O'hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Jason Saddington??

HB: Ryan Houlihan, Lance Whitnall, Andrew Walker

C: Nick Stevens, Anthony Koutoufides, Kade Simpson

HF: Eddie Betts, Jarrad Waite, Matthew Lappin

F: Bradley Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Josh Kennedy

FOLL: M.Leunbeurger??, Heath Scotland, Marc Murphy

I/C: Bryce Gibbs??, Andrew Carrazzo, Dylan McLaren, Adam Bentick

EMG: Luke Blackwell, Chris Bryan, Ryan Jackson

Feel free to let us know what changes you wuld do to this side

Exactly how are we getting both os these??:confused:

Cheers

[butchyboy]

Hey i thort tht i'd start a thread showing everyoe that carlton does hav a pretty descent side if pagan wuld put these players in these possitions. Here is my side:
B: Setanta O'hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Jason Saddington??

HB: Ryan Houlihan, Lance Whitnall, Andrew Walker

C: Nick Stevens, Anthony Koutoufides, Kade Simpson

HF: Eddie Betts, Jarrad Waite, Matthew Lappin

F: Bradley Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Josh Kennedy

FOLL: M.Leunbeurger??, Heath Scotland, Marc Murphy

I/C: Bryce Gibbs??, Andrew Carrazzo, Dylan McLaren, Adam Bentick

EMG: Luke Blackwell, Chris Bryan, Ryan Jackson

Feel free to let us know what changes you wuld do to this side

lol needed a laugh, Bower surely is much better already.

CHeers

[Kenneth]

Exactly how are we getting both os these??:confused:

Cheers

I neva sed we are goin to get both gibbs and leunberger but we culd get either wit pik 1 dats why i put a question mark next to their names:p

[NWTYRX]

i dont think Bryce Gibbs will be starting on the pine

[Kenneth]

lol needed a laugh, Bower surely is much better already.

CHeers

Bower needs at least a year in the gym lol he hasnt got enough muscle on him to play in da backline, this is the same with O'Hailpin he needs to put some muscle on as welll

[waitey]

This is the team i would like to see for round 1, obviously we will blood more kids and new draft picks throughout the year and the team will change as a result of injuries etc.
B: Bower, Thornton/Hartlett, O'hAilpin

HB: Walker, Whitnall, Scotland

C: Gibbs, Kouta, Simpson

HF: Fisher, Waite, Lappin

F: Betts, Fevola, Kennedy

FOLL: Bryan/Mclaren/Deluca/Renouf(we are screwed), Stephens, Murphy

Interchange: Carazzo, Houlihan, Jackson, Russell

Obviously in the ruck department we are very very rusty. I think maybe O'hAilpin can ruck just to give someone like Bryan or whoever is the main ruck a rest.

We have enough key position talls with four talls in the forward line, so if O'hAilpin was to go into a short stint on the ruck, we could throw someone like Waite back, and put Kennedy at CHF.

Footy nowadays is just becoming more of a midfielders game, and i have no talls on the bench. Hopefully we pick up someone like a collard, o'brien, petterd etc and as the year goes on they can also claim a spot in the team at maybe the expense of someone like houlihan or carazzo.

I really like Jackson, i think we got him for a bargain and i liked what i saw against Sydney. We MUST rotate, we have to continually throw guys like Walker onto the ball and off the half back line where guys like Stevens can replace him in a sweepers role or maybe a jackson or Russell, which would allow Walker loose for little 10 min breaks in the midfield.

Walker's disposal still has some question marks, and i still don't think yet he should be placed on the ball for the entire game. He can be used in his role that he was this year across half back, and then be let loose where he can use his magic and hopefully be an impact midfielder for 10 min bursts. He can also be used as an athletic rebounding defender when not killing opposition teams in the midfield.

We just have to continually rotate guys like simpson, gibbs, murphy, stevens, scotland, walker, carazzo, russell, houlihan, lappin, jackson, kouta, and even maybe waite to throw around the oppositions matchups. When we can have a fitter team, with continual rotations, i will start to respect pagan more. The game doesn't have as many talls, but i think our side has enough talls ( a lot compared to other teams), but also enough runners and guys we can throw into the midfield.

I still believe next year Russell can make it, he reminds me of Simpson, who also took time. But hopefully we draft some good midfielders as well in this draft, which may mean guys like houlihan and carazzo have to start really earning their spot. I would love to see us with say a midfielder we get with pick 17 or 19 really pushing for selection next year. We need to start really letting the kids onto the park now.

Hartlett will get his chance, definately in the wizard cup, and a lot depends on whether Thornton is still on the list next year. If thornton leaves, Hartlett must step up or we are in big trouble.

Throughout the year, as a result of injuries and loss of form etc, i would love to see guys like raso and edwards come in. We just have to start playing the kids and everyone on the list, even the new draftees next year, to really start seeing who can be a part of our next premiership fighting side. We just have to blood as much talent as we can.

I really think we can get good use out of stevens and scotland setting up the play from the half back line. They are good play makers and i see them using gibbs and simpson through the wings a lot. Waite seems to play well each odd year, so i expect a big one from him. Obviously he needs to play well on odd and even years, but a lot of that was a result of injuries in 2004 and 2006. I think he is going to prove a lot of people wrong lately who have doubted him, and i can see him producing what we expect him too. If fish can stay on the park as well, we really have a good forward line, they just need to work with each other. If Fish can lead up one flank/wing, and waite up the middle or to the other wing where he can then give it off to guys like murphy/simpson/gibbs running by who can then put it on the chest of fev. Kennedy must stay out of Fevs way and we must become less predictable and use our forwards like Waite, Fisher, and Kennedy who all have good hands as well. When our forward line works itself out, and we use all of the talls down there, with good delivery from guys up the ground, the opposition won't know what to do.

I think our defence will also look a lot better when the midfield becomes more competetive. We really are close to jumping the ladder very quickly i think. Along with Gibbs, i think we need just one more quality midfielder which hopefully we snare with say pick 17, a tall defender, and a RUCKMAN. Obviously maybe we won't need a defender, i can see Bower or Hartlett and o'hAilpin really devloping, and if that happens, we just need a ruckman and one more quality midfielder and our team could be rising up the ladder VERY VERY quickly.
GO BLUE BOYS!

[waitey]

just realised i forgot BENTICK! what was i thinking. Slot bentick in there at the expense of one of the guys on the bench, probably Jackson, but dont worry, Jackson will come good im sure. He can also be rotated through the midfield obviously

[gandaal]

B O'hAilpin, Thornton, Bower
HB Walker, Whitnall, McGrath
C Simpson, Scotland, Houlihan
HF Murphy, Waite, Fisher
F Betts, Fevola, Wiggins
R McLaren, Stevens, Bentick
Int Koutoufidies, Bryan, Kennedy, Blackwell

Making this side has made me so depressed. :(

In bold are the players who have either question marks over their careers or are just kids starting out who'll be in and out of the side.

[Bluebear]

B S O'hAilpin, Thornton, Bower
HB Walker, Whitnall, Scotland
C Simpson, , Houlihan, Murphy
HF , Waite, Fisher, Kennedy
F Betts, Fevola, Wiggins
R Deluca, Stevens, Gibbs
Int Koutoufidies, A O'hailpin, Bentick, Blackwell

Took a punt on a couple.
I hope and pray that Aisake makes huge quantum leaps and rucks his heart out in the ants, to be called up mid season to ruck in the ones.......dream a little dream

[Johnny_3]

Hey i thort tht i'd start a thread showing everyoe that carlton does hav a pretty descent side if pagan wuld put these players in these possitions. Here is my side:
B: Setanta O'hAilpin, Bret Thornton, Jason Saddington??

HB: Ryan Houlihan, Lance Whitnall, Andrew Walker

C: Nick Stevens, Anthony Koutoufides, Kade Simpson

HF: Eddie Betts, Jarrad Waite, Matthew Lappin

F: Bradley Fisher, Brendan Fevola, Josh Kennedy

FOLL: M.Leunbeurger??, Heath Scotland, Marc Murphy

I/C: Bryce Gibbs??, Andrew Carrazzo, Dylan McLaren, Adam Bentick

EMG: Luke Blackwell, Chris Bryan, Ryan Jackson

Feel free to let us know what changes you wuld do to this side
B: Sentanta Thorton Carazzo
HB: Scotland Waite Walker
C: Bentick Murphy Simpson
HF: Lappin Whitnall Gibbs
F: Fisher Fevola Kennedy
FOLL: Bryan Houlihan Stevens

I/C: Betts Kouta Jackson Bower

i think that kouta will play off the bench
bower will play outta the back pocket
jackson will get more of a run
and waite will swap with whitnall is best for the club imo
stevo and houla in the middle for sure

[marcmurphy3]

B: Sentanta Thorton Carazzo
HB: Scotland Waite Walker
C: Bentick Murphy Simpson
HF: Lappin Whitnall Gibbs
F: Fisher Fevola Kennedy
FOLL: Bryan Houlihan Stevens

I/C: Betts Kouta Jackson Bower

i think that kouta will play off the bench
bower will play outta the back pocket
jackson will get more of a run
and waite will swap with whitnall is best for the club imo
stevo and houla in the middle for sure

I don't think you want 2 soft players in the middle in Houla and Stevens. Maybe stevens but definately not Houla.

[SurreyBlue]

No trades or picks included:

Carrazzo Thornton Bower
Lappin O'hAilpin Scotland
Simpson Murphy Waite
Houlihan Whitnall Fisher
Kennedy Fevola Betts
McLaren Walker Stevens
Koutoufides Blackwell Bentick Russell

That is it so far .... I think we can all see where our deficiancies are.

[BlueWorld]

I don't think you want 2 soft players in the middle in Houla and Stevens. Maybe stevens but definately not Houla.

No you want HARD players who can win the HARD ball. I don't suppose you know that the 2 you mention are in our top 3 for HARD ball gets!

[Dj Chriss]

lol setanta, biggest dud around, even jason cloke has better skills than him :D

[TheGeneral]

lol setanta, biggest dud around, even jason cloke has better skills than him :D
Then it's a pity you drafted all of those hacks for the price of a third round pick and the Pies were after Setanta. :cool:

Idiot.

Jason Cloke couldn't run out of sight on a dark day or get a kick in a bar fight with Tarrant.

Now who was that Irishmen the Pies recruited? :rolleyes:

[Bluebear]

lol setanta, biggest dud around, even jason cloke has better skills than him :D

Chris Grant and Barry Hall would disagree. Not bad scalps for a second year player, three years total football experience.
Oh, just thought I'd let you know, its called a scalp if you beat your opponent - you might want to let the Clokes know. They've probably never had to come up with a name for it.........nah, forget it....they never will. Actually I hear Manangatang 3rds are looking for a water boy.

[HBF]

For mine, this would be our best 22 right now:

Backs: Carrazzo Thornton O'hailpin
H-Backs: Lappin Whitnall Bower
Centres: Walker Stevens Simpson
H-Forwards: Fisher Waite Scotland
Forwards: Betts Fevola Kennedy
Rucks: McLaren Koutoufides Murphy
I/C: Bryan Blackwell Wiggins Houlihan

[mediumsizered]

lol setanta, biggest dud around, even jason cloke has better skills than him :D
I see you are a relative newbie. Keep this up and you won't survive to be an oldie. Please close the door on the way out. You have already overstayed your welcome.

[HBF]

I see you are a relative newbie. Keep this up and you won't survive to be an oldie. Please close the door on the way out. You have already overstayed your welcome.

Is that your first mediumsizered?

[philhawk]

Is that your first mediumsizered?

Ah, who doesn't remember their 'first'. :p

[mediumsizered]

Is that your first mediumsizered?
Yes, and it felt so good. Just carving the first notch on my belt now.

[murph#3]

B O'hAilpin Thornton Russell
HB Walker Whitnall Bower
C Simpson Scotland Gibbs(?)
HF Lappin Waite Fisher
F Betts Fevola Koutoufidies
R McLaren Stevens Murphy
Int BryanKennedy Blackwell Houlihan
emg bentick carrazzo pick 17

[blueboys1]

2007 team

B Russell Draft/Hartlett, Thornton
HB Bower, Waite, Lappin
C Simpson, Murphy, Scotland
HF Fisher, Kennedy , Walker
F Whitnall, Fevola, Betts
R Bryan, Bryce Gibbs , Stevens
Int, Blackwell, Bentick, Kouta, Draft Brooks Height198cm



O'hAilpin,Carrazzo,Jackson,Batson,Harlett

I think Waite will be a better player running off H/B and Whitnall going to the forward Line
Houlihan we can trade him to a club that needs him has got some ability but there are better players and much harder at it than him

As we get Picks 1, 17, 19 and can not use any of our early picks for trading Plus PSD 1

This draft is very good and we need to get the right team balance

[btdg]

Its the off-season. The less I have to think about the joke that is our current list the better. In all rights there should be 20-25 changes to that list this year, after draft picks and trades.

So for me:

b: Carazzo, Thornton, ?
hb: Walker, Whitnall, ?
c: Simpson, ? , Waite
hf: Blackwell, ? , ?
ff: Betts, Fevola, ?
Foll: ?, ? , Murphy
Int: Koutoufides , Russell , Bannister , ?

Trade: Fisher, Stevens, McGrath, Houlihan, Bentick, Wiggins, Prendergast, Sporn, Lappin, Wiggins

Too young to play at this point: Kennedy, Bower, Hartlett, O'Hailpin x 2, Jackson, Edwards,

Delist: Bryan, McLaren, Smith, Batson, Flint, DeLuca, Raso, Chambers, Davies, Livingstone, Longmuir, Saddington, Teague

By my reckoning, that gives us 20 players and 20 roster spots. I'd try and fill 5 in the PSD, get 5-6 with trades, leaving 7-8 draft picks for a list of about 36.

[Aussie Joe]

B Carrazzo S O'hAilpin Thornton
HB Walker Whitnall Lappin
C Simpson Stevens Blackwell
HF Fisher Kennedy Murphy
F Betts Fevola Houlihan
R Mclaren Scotland Gibbs
Int Koutoufidies Bentick Bower Waite

[Bluebear]

Yes, and it felt so good. Just carving the first notch on my belt now.

Nice one MS!:thumbsu:

[bluegal1983]

Its the off-season. The less I have to think about the joke that is our current list the better. In all rights there should be 20-25 changes to that list this year, after draft picks and trades.

So for me:

b: Carazzo, Thornton, ?
hb: Walker, Whitnall, ?
c: Simpson, ? , Waite
hf: Blackwell, ? , ?
ff: Betts, Fevola, ?
Foll: ?, ? , Murphy
Int: Koutoufides , Russell , Bannister , ?

Trade: Fisher, Stevens, McGrath, Houlihan, Bentick, Wiggins, Prendergast, Sporn, Lappin, Wiggins

Too young to play at this point: Kennedy, Bower, Hartlett, O'Hailpin x 2, Jackson, Edwards,

Delist: Bryan, McLaren, Smith, Batson, Flint, DeLuca, Raso, Chambers, Davies, Livingstone, Longmuir, Saddington, Teague

By my reckoning, that gives us 20 players and 20 roster spots. I'd try and fill 5 in the PSD, get 5-6 with trades, leaving 7-8 draft picks for a list of about 36.

We can't trade the likes of Prenda and Sporn because they are both duds and nobody will want them. We may as well delist them too!

Trading good players like Fisher, Stevens, Lappin and Houlihan won't get us anywhere, if anything it will send us backwards.

I would delist all players you mentioned except McLaren, Bryan, Smith, Batson, Flint and Raso. McLaren & Bryan because we need a ruckman. Bryan has a big tank and just needs to be given a go. Smith has only played a couple of games so we can't throw him away yet and Batson, Flint and Raso haven't even been given a go yet!!