View Full Version : Thornton's Salary
astro_toby
28 Sep 2006, 21:15
Everyone is saving thornton is or isnt worth more than what is apparently being offered - what does everyone think a pplayer of his elk is worth - just the figures - No explanation!
$200K - ?
big_sav
28 Sep 2006, 21:19
$265K for 3 years
The Old Dark Navy's
28 Sep 2006, 21:23
That might get the deal done big sav. We have offered 220k per season over two years currently. Fev reckons he has been offered $1m over 3 years, which is 333k per year. I wonder if loyalty will see him re-sign for 68k less per season as long as he gets his third year.
marcmurphy3
28 Sep 2006, 21:29
I reckon 220K is fair, maybe boost it to 250k if need be. I would also give him a three year deal. He is definately not worth 300k per year though. If we are paying players like Thornton 300k there won't be anything left for the better players. We can't really pay Simpson 100k per year less than Thornton just because Thornton is a defender and we don't have many. It sets a bad precedent. I'm all for keeping Thornton but if he gets really greedy then he is not the type of player we want at the club.
TheGeneral
28 Sep 2006, 21:31
$265K for 3 years
:thumbsu:
I'll send him 20 cents if he does a Chris Grant and stays. ;)
The Old Dark Navy's
28 Sep 2006, 21:44
We can't really pay Simpson 100k per year less than Thornton just because Thornton is a defender and we don't have many. It sets a bad precedent.Yes we can and no it doesn't. Thornton has been there a year longer and has played consistent senior football for 3 years longer. There is a structure according to performance and longevity. Simmo would not be expecting as much as Thornton IMO.
Melbdave81
28 Sep 2006, 21:55
In the end the club has stated that young players are the future and that we wont sign anyone who is over 24. If they are serious, they will get their act together and sign up TBird and Fish for 3 years and the $ required, as they are both crucial in us becoming a competitive side again Then maybe we can start hearing some positive news coming out of the club, rather than negativity that we hear on a daily basis
CattyBossDog
29 Sep 2006, 00:04
In the end the club has stated that young players are the future and that we wont sign anyone who is over 24. Could it get any dumber? Really?
The likes of the Bradleys, the Tucks, the Bartletts, and Co. must shudder at comments like those.
"Sorry mate, you're over 24 years of age. You're a no go here."
Why don't they just tell players that if they want to come down then they can play, but they shouldn't expect a long and decorated career at the club - for once they pass the age of 24 then they're of no use to the Blues.
Who makes these statements anyway? They just seem too stupid to be true.
blues4flag
29 Sep 2006, 00:11
250k sounds fair to me, has to be a three year contract though.
barnesy
29 Sep 2006, 09:07
3 years
$400,000
$300,000
$200,000
Front end it slightly.
With what we have yes he is worth $300,000 per year.
With what other clubs have he probably is worth $250,000 - $275,000 per year at another club.
Butit is the demand for him that determines price.
But that's the way it is.
By front ending it means come end of of 2007 we have more room too negotiate with Murphy, Kennedy and hopefully a Gibbs for a contract extension.
I am not against the club as such being ope too offers, but given our situation, and the chances of an absolute eye opener of a trade I think we are better off just signing him up, making it a good news story and head too the draft.
celtic_pride
29 Sep 2006, 12:00
I may be in a minority, but I would think Kade Simpson should just as much cash, if not more, then Thornton.
Basically I would rather lose T-Bird then Simpson, as despite what people think, you could probably cover the loss of an tall defender, whereas Simpson is a rare talent that will become elite.
Can anyone seriously think that Thornton will become a elite player ???
marcmurphy3
29 Sep 2006, 12:23
I may be in a minority, but I would think Kade Simpson should just as much cash, if not more, then Thornton.
Basically I would rather lose T-Bird then Simpson, as despite what people think, you could probably cover the loss of an tall defender, whereas Simpson is a rare talent that will become elite.
Can anyone seriously think that Thornton will become a elite player ???
I agree. I could live with Thornton leaving but I would be distraught if Simpson left. He has the potential to be a superstar of the AFL. Simpson is definately worth more money than Thornton and he should definately be offered 3 years. In terms of our current players at the club I have him ranked fourth best.
blues4flag
29 Sep 2006, 14:16
I agree. I could live with Thornton leaving but I would be distraught if Simpson left. He has the potential to be a superstar of the AFL. Simpson is definately worth more money than Thornton and he should definately be offered 3 years. In terms of our current players at the club I have him ranked fourth best.
I would rather Simpson stay than Thornton, because Simpson has more potential and could be a star, but IMO Thornton is more important to our structure. We need both and cannot afford to lose them.
I may be in a minority, but I would think Kade Simpson should just as much cash, if not more, then Thornton.
Basically I would rather lose T-Bird then Simpson, as despite what people think, you could probably cover the loss of an tall defender, whereas Simpson is a rare talent that will become elite.
Can anyone seriously think that Thornton will become a elite player ???
I think both are definately essential players for the future. Yes Simmo has more potential than Thornton but he has only really been in the seniors for a year and a half maybe less. Thornton has been in our best 22 for quite some time and deserves some reward for his efforts.
Johnny_3
29 Sep 2006, 14:44
That might get the deal done big sav. We have offered 220k per season over two years currently. Fev reckons he has been offered $1m over 3 years, which is 333k per year. I wonder if loyalty will see him re-sign for 68k less per season as long as he gets his third year.
the guy seems loyal but then again first year where clubs have shown interest definently 250-300k for 3 years. top 3 or 4 fb in the comp and is still only 22:eek: last year i thought he wouldve been 25 and only a filler until we get another quality full back but this year the 22yo has shown potential and with his pace/strength/skill will stop richo gherig lloyd and others next year
ShlomoGlickstein
30 Sep 2006, 21:21
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.
BlueWorld
1 Oct 2006, 01:22
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.
If that's what you think he'll definitely be going elsewhere.
XXX KINGS
1 Oct 2006, 01:49
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.
no way, I love him like i love marc murphy, what a champion!
Please resin t-bird, what will i do without you? please stay because i love you
Funkalicous
1 Oct 2006, 11:49
no way, I love him like i love marc murphy, what a champion!
Please resin t-bird, what will i do without you? please stay because i love you
You're quite emotional when on the piss, aren't you? :D
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.
The avg player now avgs 200k. He is worth much more than 120k!
The Old Dark Navy's
3 Oct 2006, 01:00
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.Must be difficult to continually up the ante on silly comments.
blues4flag
3 Oct 2006, 01:08
Thronton isn't worth more than $120K per year, until he starts to have more influence on a game.
Have you ever posted anything positive about Carlton? Ever? I mean honestly, Thornton is worth much more than 120k, probably half our list get over that. He is our most valuable defender (Whitnall might be good at setting up play and blocking the space, but is no where near Thornton in terms of actual defending), and deserves around 250,000 easily.
The Kipster
3 Oct 2006, 16:57
IMO T-Bird has passion beyond reproach this alone is worth $?....ex GST of course....I can't see you guy's trading him when youth is the path that has been set and 90 game players over the next couple of years are going to be hard to find for you blokes anyway.
We'd love to have him, but when is your board and footy department going to get there sh*t together......It is a disgrace to the members and past players etc the way things are going now....
SurreyBlue
3 Oct 2006, 18:01
Traffic has increased substantially around here with opposition supporters.
Must be difficult to continually up the ante on silly comments.
Stop it (elaine bennese from seinfeld type push in the chest).....thats very funny.,...still grinning.
Thornton is worth more than we was in 2005. He is our second best defender (behind whitnall) and since Walker played a lot of defence this year 2006, he was actually our third. Thornton, as a third defender is one of the best going around is worth that amount, what ever it is.
Funkalicous
3 Oct 2006, 22:39
Thornton is worth more than we was in 2005. He is our second best defender (behind whitnall) and since Walker played a lot of defence this year 2006, he was actually our third. Thornton, as a third defender is one of the best going around is worth that amount, what ever it is.
With those other players mentioned, you could say he is our 3rd best defender. - He did finish behind Whitnall and Walker in the B&F afterall. But in terms of actual 'defence' he is number 1. Our backline is clearly structured around him, which is why I'm so perplexed as to why we'd risk losing him.
I like 265K for 3 years. It's a very good amount of money and it also provides the security of 3 years.
If he improves over the next 3 years, he'll get another pay rise. Don't sell out now T-bird.
Blue Thunder
3 Oct 2006, 22:59
With those other players mentioned, you could say he is our 3rd best defender. - He did finish behind Whitnall and Walker in the B&F afterall. But in terms of actual 'defence' he is number 1. Our backline is clearly structured around him, which is why I'm so perplexed as to why we'd risk losing him.
I like 265K for 3 years. It's a very good amount of money and it also provides the security of 3 years.
If he improves over the next 3 years, he'll get another pay rise. Don't sell out now T-bird.
I know the club are positioning themselves to be in the box seat regarding T-Bird, in that they are stating they want to keep him but are just not coming to the party in terms of the $$$.
Question to ask is why? - Is it because they will assess what his trade value is worth? If we were to get a top 10 pick for him then maybe they would be prepared to off-load him. It could be the difference between getting Gibbs and Selwood rather than just Gibbs.
If the trade value is not in our favour then I am sure we will sign him up pretty quickly.
Bear in mind that our Key Backs next year will be from: Whitnall, O'Hailpin, Bower, Hartlett, Saddington and Waite (yes J.Waite will be considered for CHB).