RDFL Thread 2007

[Doona2]

It would be great to play in a premiership side with hopefully some of these young blokes returning for a 2 or 3 seasons. They would still have plenty of time to go play in the Bigger Leagues around Vic, Intrinsic values are something i hold highly, My old man always talks about:
1. how strong the league was
2. The great rivalries with opposition sides, nothing better then beating sunbury and lancefield. Especially in 80s when he was president.
3. The great social events around the club.
4. The best players in the league
5. When he played in the very early 70s that they were paid only 10 bucks a week haha

When i look at the 87 premiership side i see the names dad talks so fondly about, Darren Kemp, The Dalgliesh brothers, Wayne George, Grant Kayll, Nick Monaghan, Hussey, Clancy etc. Or how he so easily remembers everything from the 71 flag and talks about Terry Mills, Ross Clark, Robert Reid, Geoff Briggs, John Green, Wayne Henderson, etc

I want to do the same thing in 30 yrs time and talk about how Blokes like Mcintrye webb huy robbo kemp cornish kingy burger and the rest play in a flag or two together. i know theres nothing better, just from winning a flag with some of those fellas at ACK in 05.
My dream Kilmore Team for next few yrs could read something like this(prob not likely and alot of ifs and buts)
Colliver Barnes Duff
Kempy Mcintyre Hardiman
Newham Robbo Barton
Hede Salter Still(Captain)
Cornish Mills King

Wittmar Colliss, Ramsdale Etc
Webb
Huy
Add unknown recruits at this moment and the squad would be very dangerous, i know this is all ifs and buts, it would be great to have a side like that.
Just would be awesome for the club and town n possibly the league
of course i forgot some people i just realised goudge n strayney but ya just have to wait n see what happens.

We aint here for the future lads, the future is determined by what we do today so play for the moment, play for today. Surround yourself with good people and good things will happen in time.

Talking about flags down the track is ok to dream about, but to insinuate the Blues are hoping of luring guys back for a better tilt at it later on is the ultimate kick in the guts to guys like me good mate Rysa and your older heads who think the list is good enough now.

A lot can happen between now and whenever then is gunna be and a lot of the above talk is hypothetical, who's gunna come, who's gunna go, who'll get injured during that supposed magical period.

They aint got forever, have tasted they success you strive - you young guys should be feeding off their knowledge, working harder on the track and having a red hot go at playing finals this year . . . . as I said earlier if you all play to your capabilities you will amaze yourselves (and your opposition).

It's starts on the track, two nights a week plus more, be the best you can, dont all try and be like Robbo, or Twitty just be the best you can as individuals and the rest will fall into place.

DO NOT WAVE THE WHITE FLAG AND TALK OF DOWN THE TRACK . . . . .Tez, Jamie and your older players deserve better get yourselves up for a big month and you'll be surprised at what momentum can do

[Doona2]

Harry, how about Darren Kemp. He played in 3 flags for Kilmore in 3 different decades (87, 94 and 01). on his day he would've been more dominant than Andy Stewart.

Yeah Kempy was a bloody gun broman :thumbsu:

[B.O.G]

why dont we stick to the players we know at your club, maybe even add the position they played so that we can match them against someone else. for example sims- midfield, belleville - midfield,
would make the peoples job of picking and sorting though this team alot easier.

this is wha i mean:
for example
woodend-heskett:
backline players:
player a
b
c
d
ect
midfielders:
a
b
c
d
fowards:
a
b
c
d
ect.
it then sorts out the players into catogories that everone can relate to and form an opinion on, if we keep throwing up names it will get to confusing.

just an idea

[catters078]

Harry, how about Darren Kemp. He played in 3 flags for Kilmore in 3 different decades (87, 94 and 01). on his day he would've been more dominant than Andy Stewart.

matty cox has to be a shoe in

[Halffullonfence]

what's Macedon's ground like for tomorrow? I assume it was trained on last night?

With such an important weekend of football here is the ground reports. This is not a go at clubs we all know everyone tries to get their grounds in the best possible condition. The ratings will be from Good 1 to Heavy 10 with Good 3 being ideal for footy .

Romsey's oval; Firm with good grass coverage, patchy at CHF Tennis club end with the FF area at that end a bit softer and patchy. Overall rating Dead 5.

Riddel's oval; Surprisingly firm, clubroom wing a bit patchy with some surface water in small areas at the old duck farm end. Plenty of Cape Weed on surface (needs spraying before it gets to woody) because of the cape weed (strap ankles). Overall rating Dead 6 some areas Heavy 7.

Lancfield's oval; Slippery with reasonable grass coverage club rooms area a bit patchy. Overall Rating Dead 6.

Macedon's oval; Very slippery clubrooms wing with not much grass, small areas of surface water but firm underfoot. Area of most concern would be centre square with little grass on clubrooms side of cricket pitch. Overall rating Heavy 8.

Woodend's oval; Extremely wet and in some places at golf course end allmost unplayable. Will be very cut up by seniors. Obviosly not trained on last night if at all this week. Overall rating Heavy 10+.

[bromanbomber]

We aint here for the future lads, the future is determined by what we do today so play for the moment, play for today. Surround yourself with good people and good things will happen in time.

Talking about flags down the track is ok to dream about, but to insinuate the Blues are hoping of luring guys back for a better tilt at it later on is the ultimate kick in the guts to guys like me good mate Rysa and your older heads who think the list is good enough now.

A lot can happen between now and whenever then is gunna be and a lot of the above talk is hypothetical, who's gunna come, who's gunna go, who'll get injured during that supposed magical period.

They aint got forever, have tasted they success you strive - you young guys should be feeding off their knowledge, working harder on the track and having a red hot go at playing finals this year . . . . as I said earlier if you all play to your capabilities you will amaze yourselves (and your opposition).

It's starts on the track, two nights a week plus more, be the best you can, dont all try and be like Robbo, or Twitty just be the best you can as individuals and the rest will fall into place.

DO NOT WAVE THE WHITE FLAG AND TALK OF DOWN THE TRACK . . . . .Tez, Jamie and your older players deserve better get yourselves up for a big month and you'll be surprised at what momentum can do

:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:well said doona. that was always the problem when times were tough in 02, 03 players would think about how good the side would be next year rather than worrying about what they can change now.
self belief is the biggest thing there. They can do it, but they have want to do it not only for themselves but also as a club as well. too many players have regrets after they have retired rather than treating every game as there last . for every game they play, they are one step closer to retirement. regardless of your age, who knows what tomorrow, next week or year can bring.

[Rodriguez]

With such an important weekend of football here is the ground reports. This is not a go at clubs we all know everyone tries to get their grounds in the best possible condition. The ratings will be from Good 1 to Heavy 10 with Good 3 being ideal for footy .

Romsey's oval; Firm with good grass coverage, patchy at CHF Tennis club end with the FF area at that end a bit softer and patchy. Overall rating Dead 5.

Riddel's oval; Surprisingly firm, clubroom wing a bit patchy with some surface water in small areas at the old duck farm end. Plenty of Cape Weed on surface (needs spraying before it gets to woody) because of the cape weed (strap ankles). Overall rating Dead 6 some areas Heavy 7.

Lancfield's oval; Slippery with reasonable grass coverage club rooms area a bit patchy. Overall Rating Dead 6.

Macedon's oval; Very slippery clubrooms wing with not much grass, small areas of surface water but firm underfoot. Area of most concern would be centre square with little grass on clubrooms side of cricket pitch. Overall rating Heavy 8.

Woodend's oval; Extremely wet and in some places at golf course end allmost unplayable. Will be very cut up by seniors. Obviosly not trained on last night if at all this week. Overall rating Heavy 10+.

Few blokes had a run on small parts of Woodend last night fair to say, cut up by the seniors is an understatement. Could be a soccer match first score could win. Dissapointing for a big match!

[Trueblueroo]

Few blokes had a run on small parts of Woodend last night fair to say, cut up by the seniors is an understatement. Could be a soccer match first score could win. Dissapointing for a big match!

Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......

[matt_nicholls]

Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......

They probably figure it'll help them get the four points ...

[bromanbomber]

They probably figure it'll help them get the four points ...
if the grounds as bad as people say, wouldn't the league look to shift it to an alternate venue??

[Hawker28]

if the grounds as bad as people say, wouldn't the league look to shift it to an alternate venue??

should make it an interesting contest.the ground is in awfull condition

[Trueblueroo]

All this mud will help Mongrel just punish Sipthorpe more in the mud!

[Halffullonfence]

Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......

Lesson for all football clubs with recycled water "Make sure drainage is able to cope with excess water during winter". Recycled water great for cricket clubs not so great for football clubs, make sure you know your winter useage allocations.

[Rodriguez]

Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......

Club stayed off the ground for 6 weeks and have already moved one game. Trained on the ground last week and tuesday was pretty soft under foot but very playable.

Unfortunately bucked down yesterday, I guess if not predicting weather conditions is terrible management than yes. Has full grass coverage and looks a picture. Will look OK for the 18's, but will be cacti by the 1's.

Conditions will be similiar to a final played at macedon in '02. I think Centrals won 2.3 to 1.12.

[footy mad 2]

Sorry Footy Mad 2 but I would have to disagree with three of your four nominations. Belville is a genuine chance, he has been a solid performer over the last 10 years, the others, Aaron James, only played 1 year, McInerny has only come into his own over the last 2 years, didn't have much impact on games prior to having better players around him and Spud, IMO, is still not anywhere near the likes of Cuffe (who he'd be up against in selection for the ruck). Just an observation, not an attack, I know it's your opinion, I'm just encouraging healthy debate to help fine tune the selection process:thumbsu:

My picks off the top of my head....

Luke Edwards (Romsey)
Mark "Bulldog" Strack (Romsey)
Lee James (Riddell)
Andy Stewart (Kilmore)
Michael Werner (Gisborne)
Brad Fox (Gisborne)
Matthew Cox (Romsey) - Stiffest bloke not to win a Bowen
Dean Helmers (Sunbury/Macedon) there you go Mongrel, I'll nominate you!
Fitzpatrick (Wallan)
Cuffe (Romsey)

I'll get to thinking about a few more....

Harry I did not see a minimum time limit anywhere therefore a james would have to be named. In your opinion L mc has come into his own in the LAST couple of year therefore they count. As for spud and cuff there would be far better judges than me. If not ruck could he squeeze in any where else as I believe he is a player of hu\ge quality.

[blues12]

Woodend's oval; Extremely wet and in some places at golf course end allmost unplayable. Will be very cut up by seniors. Obviosly not trained on last night if at all this week. Overall rating Heavy 10+.

Anybody got a pair of gum boots?

[blues12]

Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......

That is bullcrap, Some blokes need to deal with it, Football is a winter sport, you play the ground as it is, the only time a venue should be changed, is if it's a final or like earlier in the year dangerously hard.
Too many players complain about conditions, it is local footy, harden up or go and play something inside by your heater.:thumbsd:
No telstra dome in RDFL

[Halffullonfence]

Anybody got a pair of gum boots?


Post of the week:thumbsu::thumbsu:

[blues12]

Lesson for all football clubs with recycled water "Make sure drainage is able to cope with excess water during winter". Recycled water great for cricket clubs not so great for football clubs, make sure you know your winter useage allocations.

Next year the roos should have recycled water, Hume council install rain sensors at all grounds, so hopefully this problem doesn't happen.

[Trueblueroo]

Got no problem playing it, Blues just would have thought for a game with a bit at stakem, I would have thought Woodend may have looked at moving it, to catter for a bigger specticle. That's all.

[Halffullonfence]

Next year the roos should have recycled water, Hume council install rain sensors at all grounds, so hopefully this problem doesn't happen.

You will still have to use your allocation whether it rains or not. This is the problem for football ovals and recycled water.

What is the condition of Clarke oval in Sunbury???

[Harry Wilson]

Harry I did not see a minimum time limit anywhere therefore a james would have to be named. In your opinion L mc has come into his own in the LAST couple of year therefore they count. As for spud and cuff there would be far better judges than me. If not ruck could he squeeze in any where else as I believe he is a player of hu\ge quality.

I'm not saying L McInerny shouldn't be included and yes his form over the last couple of years definately counts, I'm just saying that there would be longer serving, better performers in the same time period. Where would he line up? If you say in the middle, then surely Fitzy from Wallan, Coxy or Luke Edwards from Romsey and Brad Fox would be more likely to get the nod. Remembering two of the four blokes I have just mentioned won Bowen medals playing in the middle. As stated earlier Matty Cox is probably the unlukiest bloke not to win a Bowen and Brad Fox played AFL. Fox's sheer size and ferocity at both the ball and the player saw him become the most dominant centre man in the league. As far as Aaron James is concerned, would you name him at Full Forward? If so, do you not think that Lee "Slugga" James has been the most consistant, dominant Full Forward in our league over the last 5 years? Surely he deserves to be named the Full Foward of the decade. Spud is a player of huge quality, I'm not doubting that, but he doesn't dominate the game the way Cuffe used to. I had the pleasure of playing with Cuffe and he was as dominant at ground level as he was in the Ruck and likewise around the ground, taking big contested marks. Like I stated earlier, just my opinion and of course you're entitiled to yours. Great to see some healthy debate about footy rather than the BS that gets bantied about sometimes on this thread:thumbsu:

[joeblow2]

I'm not saying L McInerny shouldn't be included and yes his form over the last couple of years definately counts, I'm just saying that there would be longer serving, better performers in the same time period. Where would he line up? If you say in the middle, then surely Fitzy from Wallan, Coxy or Luke Edwards from Romsey and Brad Fox would be more likely to get the nod. Remembering two of the four blokes I have just mentioned won Bowen medals playing in the middle. As stated earlier Matty Cox is probably the unlukiest bloke not to win a Bowen and Brad Fox played AFL. Fox's sheer size and ferocity at both the ball and the player saw him become the most dominant centre man in the league. As far as Aaron James is concerned, would you name him at Full Forward? If so, do you not think that Lee "Slugga" James has been the most consistant, dominant Full Forward in our league over the last 5 years? Surely he deserves to be named the Full Foward of the decade. Spud is a player of huge quality, I'm not doubting that, but he doesn't dominate the game the way Cuffe used to. I had the pleasure of playing with Cuffe and he was as dominant at ground level as he was in the Ruck and likewise around the ground, taking big contested marks. Like I stated earlier, just my opinion and of course you're entitiled to yours. Great to see some healthy debate about footy rather than the BS that gets bantied about sometimes on this thread:thumbsu:
Surely you would have to play more than 7 games to get into the team of the decade. A James did dominate when he played, but couldn't be considered.

[blues12]

Got no problem playing it, Blues just would have thought for a game with a bit at stakem, I would have thought Woodend may have looked at moving it, to catter for a bigger specticle. That's all.

I hope they have a good supply of hot water:D

[Hawker28]

The Top 55 Nominated Players Are

1.m.werner Gis
2.strack Rom
3.l.james Ridd
4.j.cuffe Rom
5.d.helmers Mac
6.g Langbourne Wal
7.i.kaakour Cra
8.b.fox Gis
9.witmar Kil
10.atkins Kil
11.simms Dig
12.niki Sun
13.meldrum Rom
14.j Macdonald Gis
15.c Curcio Gis
16.l.mcinerney Sun
17.s.hawkins Mac
18.m.lakey Lan
19.porno Lan
20.d.fowler Wal
21.a Benjamin Wal
22.d.poniewaz Cra
23.p.albon Cra
24.a.stewart Kil
25.a.cann Cra
26.edwards Rom
27.butler Kil
28.kinnear Kil
29.dalgleish Kil
30.d.kavanagh Kil
31.monaghan Kil
32.m.robertson Kil
33.l.kemp Kil
34.d.choate Lan
35.c.gadsten Ridd
36.d.dabrovsak Wood
37.h.wadden Ridd
38.m.cheep Wood
39.d.power Gis
40.r.omeara Lan
41.s.croxford Mac
42.b.borgan Rom
43.s.burlak Rom
44.j.beleville Ridd
45.m.giddings Wood
46.m.power Ridd
47.fitsy Wal
48.m.mckenzie Gis
49.cox Rom
50.s.james Sun
51.tyquin Dig
52.fitspatrick Dig
53.a.james Sun
54.m.mcinerney Sun
55.s.choate Lan

Now Time To Reduce The List.start Naming The Players That Definately Wouldnt Make The Side

[Mongrel]

aaron james didnt play enough games

[billylid]

aaron james didnt play enough games

should there be a criteria (ie Bowen medal =autoqualification / 50 + plus senior games in RDFL0. Just a thought.. Maybe if its still to hard to cull the list maybe you can have an A side and a B-side.. Kinder same principle as the Aussie Cricket theory...

[Harry Wilson]

Now Time To Reduce The List.start Naming The Players That Definately Wouldnt Make The Side[/quote]

Surely anyone who won a Bowen Medal in that 10 year period gains instant entry? From what I can see these are:

Luke Edwards
Mark Strack x 2
Al Meldrum
i.kaakour Cra (won it in 1993)
Marty Lakey - I think he won one (Joe Blow can confirm)
Langbourne
Lee James

Any more, please fill them in:thumbsu:

[Harry Wilson]

Surely you would have to play more than 7 games to get into the team of the decade. A James did dominate when he played, but couldn't be considered.

I totally agree:thumbsu:

[Halffullonfence]

The Top 55 Nominated Players Are

1.m.werner Gis
2.strack Rom
3.l.james Ridd
4.j.cuffe Rom
5.d.helmers Mac
6.g Langbourne Wal
7.i.kaakour Cra
8.b.fox Gis
9.witmar Kil
10.atkins Kil
11.simms Dig
12.niki Sun
13.meldrum Rom
14.j Macdonald Gis
15.c Curcio Gis
16.l.mcinerney Sun
17.s.hawkins Mac
18.m.lakey Lan
19.porno Lan
20.d.fowler Wal
21.a Benjamin Wal
22.d.poniewaz Cra
23.p.albon Cra
24.a.stewart Kil
25.a.cann Cra
26.edwards Rom
27.butler Kil
28.kinnear Kil
29.dalgleish Kil
30.d.kavanagh Kil
31.monaghan Kil
32.m.robertson Kil
33.l.kemp Kil
34.d.choate Lan
35.c.gadsten Ridd
36.d.dabrovsak Wood
37.h.wadden Ridd
38.m.cheep Wood
39.d.power Gis
40.r.omeara Lan
41.s.croxford Mac
42.b.borgan Rom
43.s.burlak Rom
44.j.beleville Ridd
45.m.giddings Wood
46.m.power Ridd
47.fitsy Wal
48.m.mckenzie Gis
49.cox Rom
50.s.james Sun
51.tyquin Dig
52.fitspatrick Dig
53.a.james Sun
54.m.mcinerney Sun
55.s.choate Lan

Now Time To Reduce The List.start Naming The Players That Definately Wouldnt Make The Side

What happened to R Christiansen (Mac) playing coach in Mongrels time. Should be on list.

[matt_nicholls]

Now Time To Reduce The List.start Naming The Players That Definately Wouldnt Make The Side

Surely anyone who won a Bowen Medal in that 10 year period gains instant entry? From what I can see these are:

Luke Edwards
Mark Strack x 2
Al Meldrum
i.kaakour Cra (won it in 1993)
Marty Lakey - I think he won one (Joe Blow can confirm)
Langbourne
Lee James

Any more, please fill them in:thumbsu:[/quote]

Marty Lakey won the Scarborough Medal in 1995, which was the equivilant of the Bowen Medal in the second division. It is now used as the reserves best and fairest.

[e1984]

Hi guys been away for a while, lot to read about, but i will not digress
so here we go

team of the decade
criteria
must have played not less than 50 seniors games out of a possible 180 games in that period
bowen medal is not a auto in (if so then roo from diggers will be in)
should not be allowed to nominate any body from your club

[e1984]

tips this week

Woodend 30pts- list is a lot better this time and just far to strong at home
(well done sunbury on the cuffe rumour, very funny)
Lancefield 15pts - home ground
Diggers by 5 pts - in form and hungry
Romsey 60pts - Kilmore just don't have it anymore
Rockbank 25+pts - two clubs headed in different directions

will have more posts but only up to page 299

[goblues09]

how could u put anyone but Lee James at full forward - a Bowen and 3 (correct me if i am wrong) centuries....hard to top - but how about this for a condition -

being a team of the decade and all - shouldnt all players in the team be players who have at least played 5 years of the 10 in the RDFL (with the exception of retired players)....otherwise lets just stick to the Bowen medal nights "Team of the Year"!!!!!

[Harry Wilson]

Hi guys been away for a while, lot to read about, but i will not digress
so here we go

team of the decade
criteria
must have played not less than 50 seniors games out of a possible 180 games in that period
bowen medal is not a auto in (if so then roo from diggers will be in)
should not be allowed to nominate any body from your club

If that's the case then I am unable to nominate Cuffe, Matty Cox, Luke Edwards, Alastair Meldrum or Mark Strack!!! I would say at least 4 out of the five should be included. I don't know that Cuffe won a Bowen, but his reputation surely gets him in. Matty Cox never won a Bowen but should have, the bloke was able to win games off of his own boot and regularly kicked bags of 4,5 or 6 goals from the middle the word FREAK comes to mind and the other three guys in Meldrum, Strack and Edwards have 4 Bowens between them. If these guys aren't named it is a travesty. I'm proud to have 5 blokes out of 22 all from my home club Romsey. Harry rests his case. :thumbsu:

[Harry Wilson]

how could u put anyone but Lee James at full forward - a Bowen and 3 (correct me if i am wrong) centuries....hard to top -

Your right goblues09, Slugga was a champ, still is. Rumor is he'll be back next year too!! Just what Riddell need, another dominant forward. Good luck to all opposition sides trying nullify their attacking power:eek: Scary!!

[Iceman27]

Now Time To Reduce The List.start Naming The Players That Definately Wouldnt Make The Side

Surely anyone who won a Bowen Medal in that 10 year period gains instant entry? From what I can see these are:

Luke Edwards
Mark Strack x 2
Al Meldrum
i.kaakour Cra (won it in 1993)
Marty Lakey - I think he won one (Joe Blow can confirm)
Langbourne
Lee James

Any more, please fill them in:thumbsu:[/QUOTE]

Brett Spencer won a Bowen in either 2000 or 2001 not sure if he would be in team of the decade though.

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

Tips for this week-ends Rnd of games.

Woodend - Just
Lancefield - Just
Riddell - Just
Romsey - Just
Rockbank - Just

[dwyane WADE show]

If that's the case then I am unable to nominate Cuffe, Matty Cox, Luke Edwards, Alastair Meldrum or Mark Strack!!! I would say at least 4 out of the five should be included. I don't know that Cuffe won a Bowen, but his reputation surely gets him in. Matty Cox never won a Bowen but should have, the bloke was able to win games off of his own boot and regularly kicked bags of 4,5 or 6 goals from the middle the word FREAK comes to mind and the other three guys in Meldrum, Strack and Edwards have 4 Bowens between them. If these guys aren't named it is a travesty. I'm proud to have 5 blokes out of 22 all from my home club Romsey. Harry rests his case. :thumbsu:

Yeah i think cuffe won the bowen in 97 and by a long way too

[dwyane WADE show]

some of the better wallan players from this decade when they were in the rdfl would have to be:
daffy fowler
dean fitzpatrick
adam benjamin
gav langborne
hayden langborne
andrew urli
i was only a young fella back then but some other players i remember who were guns from other clubs were hawkins, christaenson, croxford(mac), fox, hay, werner(gis), cuffe(rom), poniewaz, kaakour(craig), besanko, lakey, stewart

[Roy Cazaly]

That is bullcrap, Some blokes need to deal with it, Football is a winter sport, you play the ground as it is, the only time a venue should be changed, is if it's a final or like earlier in the year dangerously hard.
Too many players complain about conditions, it is local footy, harden up or go and play something inside by your heater.:thumbsd:
No telstra dome in RDFL

Great call blues12, i cant believe blokes are being so precious. Back when it used to rain 75% of the grounds were in the condition that Woodend will be in this weekend. Adds another aspect to the game (toughness) which we dont see nearly enough off these days. One of stupidest comments ever from Trueblueroo re switching game.
As far as Helmers tearing up Sipthorpe, i dont think thats going to happen. Maybe the mongrel of 10 years ago would be a good match up but certainly not in same class now.
Look forward to wtching good old fashioned game of tough footy. Roos by 5 points for me, think some of younger woodend boys maybe a little timid.

[Jordan23]

how could u put anyone but Lee James at full forward - a Bowen and 3 (correct me if i am wrong) centuries....hard to top - but how about this for a condition -

being a team of the decade and all - shouldnt all players in the team be players who have at least played 5 years of the 10 in the RDFL (with the exception of retired players)....otherwise lets just stick to the Bowen medal nights "Team of the Year"!!!!!

I think that the league does not give that roos credit they have a lot of guns and woodend can be that good cause diggers beat them and the roos beat them with half a side.:D

[Jordan23]

My RDFL Team of the Year

B: G. Barnes (K), W. Else (WH), B. Johnson (SK).
HB: L. Kemp (K), J. Allen (Ri), M. Robertson (K).
C: L. McInerney (SK), M. McInerney (SK), A. Johnstone (WH).
HF: S. Sims (DR), B. Morgan (Rom), B. Wheelahan (MC).
F: D. Cornish (K), M. Allen (Ri), R. Dowling (WH).
R: J. Jose (DR), J. Belleville (Ri), D. Bonnici (SK).
I: C. Collins (L), S. James (SK), M. Stacey (WH), M. McLellan (Rom).

Coach: Darrin Rowsell (Riddell).

Summary:
Sunbury Kangaroos - 5 players
Woodend-Hesket 4 players
Kilmore - 4 players
Riddell - 3 players
Romsey - 2 players
Diggers Rest - 2 players
Lancefield - 1 player
Melton Central - 1 player

Your kidding about the ruck james from kangas has already smashed jose and will do again if given the opportunity and what about garth ploog by far the best centre half forward in the comp and even nath hole in the back line somewhere he beats the crap out of barnes from kilmore, and if jarrod dixon is not in contention for coach I will be stuffed he had to build a side not just have one already from the past two years go dicko:thumbsu:

[Ding_Dong]

Your right goblues09, Slugga was a champ, still is. Rumor is he'll be back next year too!! Just what Riddell need, another dominant forward. Good luck to all opposition sides trying nullify their attacking power:eek: Scary!!


Not the whisper's I'm hearing...Ive heard that he will be playing for Sunbury Lions. But you know what these rumour's are like!!

[Jordan23]

Great call blues12, i cant believe blokes are being so precious. Back when it used to rain 75% of the grounds were in the condition that Woodend will be in this weekend. Adds another aspect to the game (toughness) which we dont see nearly enough off these days. One of stupidest comments ever from Trueblueroo re switching game.
As far as Helmers tearing up Sipthorpe, i dont think thats going to happen. Maybe the mongrel of 10 years ago would be a good match up but certainly not in same class now.
Look forward to wtching good old fashioned game of tough footy. Roos by 5 points for me, think some of younger woodend boys maybe a little timid.

I think that helmers may not be as fast but watch out sippy if he gets you cause you might wake up on monday smash him deano i got your back.:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:

[Jordan23]

I'm not saying L McInerny shouldn't be included and yes his form over the last couple of years definately counts, I'm just saying that there would be longer serving, better performers in the same time period. Where would he line up? If you say in the middle, then surely Fitzy from Wallan, Coxy or Luke Edwards from Romsey and Brad Fox would be more likely to get the nod. Remembering two of the four blokes I have just mentioned won Bowen medals playing in the middle. As stated earlier Matty Cox is probably the unlukiest bloke not to win a Bowen and Brad Fox played AFL. Fox's sheer size and ferocity at both the ball and the player saw him become the most dominant centre man in the league. As far as Aaron James is concerned, would you name him at Full Forward? If so, do you not think that Lee "Slugga" James has been the most consistant, dominant Full Forward in our league over the last 5 years? Surely he deserves to be named the Full Foward of the decade. Spud is a player of huge quality, I'm not doubting that, but he doesn't dominate the game the way Cuffe used to. I had the pleasure of playing with Cuffe and he was as dominant at ground level as he was in the Ruck and likewise around the ground, taking big contested marks. Like I stated earlier, just my opinion and of course you're entitiled to yours. Great to see some healthy debate about footy rather than the BS that gets bantied about sometimes on this thread:thumbsu:

I know Spud well and he never has thought he was as good as cuffy but thinks he could give him a good run on his day would be very happy just to slot in anywhere I think the league might have double trouble soon though who will beat them both just a romour:p

[petespies]

how could u put anyone but Lee James at full forward - a Bowen and 3 (correct me if i am wrong) centuries....hard to top - but how about this for a condition -

being a team of the decade and all - shouldnt all players in the team be players who have at least played 5 years of the 10 in the RDFL (with the exception of retired players)....otherwise lets just stick to the Bowen medal nights "Team of the Year"!!!!!

no chance lee james being named full forward with the likes off werner or daff fowler to fill that position. to be honest the guns off today would struggle to have an impact on a game 10 years ago, the league was so much stonger, the likes of benjamin, d fitzpatrick, kavanah ect would run rings around ya mcIn...... who's :confused:, bonnaci's, sims' and so on :rolleyes:, some of ya might not like the truth but with how strong the comp used to be and how good these players were- most if not all should of the team of the decade should consist of 96-01 players.
could you imagine ruane winning a league medal 10 years ago... kid wouldnt even get a game. :D

[goblues09]

Originally Posted by matt_nicholls http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8286481#post8286481)
My RDFL Team of the Year

B: G. Barnes (K), W. Else (WH), B. Johnson (SK).
HB: L. Kemp (K), J. Allen (Ri), M. Robertson (K).
C: L. McInerney (SK), M. McInerney (SK), A. Johnstone (WH).
HF: S. Sims (DR), B. Morgan (Rom), B. Wheelahan (MC).
F: D. Cornish (K), M. Allen (Ri), R. Dowling (WH).
R: J. Jose (DR), J. Belleville (Ri), D. Bonnici (SK).
I: C. Collins (L), S. James (SK), M. Stacey (WH), M. McLellan (Rom).

Coach: Darrin Rowsell (Riddell).







sorry pickles, but i gotta disagree - how does Robbo get named at half back when he plays on the ball?? these teams should be picked by their position, not just fit bloke into a spot they not played at all - and is 3 ruckmen being a little generous???


surprised ya didnt chuck Sipthorp in just on reputation :D

[joeblow2]

I think that helmers may not be as fast but watch out sippy if he gets you cause you might wake up on monday smash him deano i got your back.:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
Just wondering, what are you suggesting by 'smash him'? You get on a public forum and talk in those terms it sounds like a Yeats/Brereton scenario. If Sippy gets cleaned up tomorrow you're opening your club up to some pretty negative publicity, and that's wrong. I'm not suggesting anything untoward here, but you wanna be careful with your terminology.

Surely the 'roos wouldn't need to take 1 man out to think they can beat a team they've already beaten this year?!:thumbsd:

[woody07]

I think that helmers may not be as fast but watch out sippy if he gets you cause you might wake up on monday smash him deano i got your back.:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:

You obviously haven't watched Sippy play much Jordan-Sippy isn't going to worry about the tough stuff champ. Toughest player i've seen play and that includes Helmers.

[matt_nicholls]

sorry pickles, but i gotta disagree - how does Robbo get named at half back when he plays on the ball?? these teams should be picked by their position, not just fit bloke into a spot they not played at all - and is 3 ruckmen being a little generous???


surprised ya didnt chuck Sipthorp in just on reputation :D

Stacey can play in a key position, so he is more than just a ruckman, as can Spud. I'll bet if you asked most people on this thread how Matt Robertson could be more damaging in a game of football they would suggest that he needs to spend less time floating across half-back picking up cheap kicks. He is a gun player and along with Sipthorp should be one of the best centre half forwards in this competition. Robbo is named in the middle and starts there at the ball-ups, but floats to half-back all the time. Playing a very similar role to Joel Bowden and Dane Swan in the AFL. Sweeper.

[blues12]

Just wondering, what are you suggesting by 'smash him'? You get on a public forum and talk in those terms it sounds like a Yeats/Brereton scenario. If Sippy gets cleaned up tomorrow you're opening your club up to some pretty negative publicity, and that's wrong. I'm not suggesting anything untoward here, but you wanna be careful with your terminology.

Surely the 'roos wouldn't need to take 1 man out to think they can beat a team they've already beaten this year?!:thumbsd:


In cricket if someone says smash him, i think that means hit the ball all over the park and make him look second rate. I think that is more the meaning that jordan23 was going for.
We all know deano is too slow and level headed to catch sippy and go back to his old days of actually belting someone. :D
As you said the roos wouldn't need to take a man out.

[blues12]

rumours are a storm is coming, i think it is, but not everybody here is on the money :D
what rumours will come true?

[Blueboy16]

I know of a rumour that will come true in the game Woodend vs Sunbury today. Timing is just right and pretty damaging storm to he is too.

[goblues09]

Stacey can play in a key position, so he is more than just a ruckman, as can Spud. I'll bet if you asked most people on this thread how Matt Robertson could be more damaging in a game of football they would suggest that he needs to spend less time floating across half-back picking up cheap kicks. He is a gun player and along with Sipthorp should be one of the best centre half forwards in this competition. Robbo is named in the middle and starts there at the ball-ups, but floats to half-back all the time. Playing a very similar role to Joel Bowden and Dane Swan in the AFL. Sweeper.


point taken but how dod u put someone at half back if they go there as a loose man - is that defence?? just think its tough on guys who play the backline like Janner from Diggers for eg. - has had a stellar year and shouldnt be missing out cos a spot couldnt be found in the guts for another on baller!!!

[joeblow2]

In cricket if someone says smash him, i think that means hit the ball all over the park and make him look second rate. I think that is more the meaning that jordan23 was going for.
We all know deano is too slow and level headed to catch sippy and go back to his old days of actually belting someone. :D
As you said the roos wouldn't need to take a man out.
I think so too B12, but when you add 'might wake up' and 'I got ya back' it just puts a different spin on it. Good luck to all today.

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

Riddell home over Diggers 10.15 to 4.8 in a very scrappy affair, Matt Shaughnessy & Brayden Allen the standouts for Riddell.

[matt_nicholls]

In one of the better games of footy I've seen this year Kilmore defeated Romsey in a tight encounter. The Blues got out to a five goal lead in the second term, but Romsey kept coming and nearly pinched it with the wind in the final quarter. Cornish kicked 6.

My votes would have been:

3. Linton Kemp - Demolished Redbacks across half-back.
2. Dave Cornish - Everything he touched turned to gold.
1. Brad Colliver - tagged McLellan beautifully.

Honourable mentions go to Campbell Spears for his terrific on the run goal, Chris Wilson for his "softest free kick" give away ever.

Speaking of free kicks, two experienced umpires in Ken Freeman and Troy Jones had shockers. In the second quarter the game got out of control and they didn't handle it too well. I know it isn't an easy gig and I'm not pot shotting these guys because they normally do a good job.

[joeblow2]

Centrals rolled Lancefield by around 2 goals. Not sure how the 2nd half was but when I left at half time it was MC 2.10 to L 4.2. Fair reflection of the game really.

Woodend beat Sunbury by 2 goals also.

[RR99]

First time poster on Big Footy - Love the read.
Great to play against Kilmore today. They surely wanted the pts more than the redbacks and had more even contributors throughout the day. Kemp set up the Blues attacks across halfback with hard running and delivery into forward line. Redbacks looked dangerous when they moved the ball forward quickly but could not match the passion of the Blues. Great to see so many Kilmore boys having a drink in the rooms after the game. Best of luck for the rest of year.

[WISH_I_COULD_KICK]

Centrals rolled Lancefield by around 2 goals. Not sure how the 2nd half was but when I left at half time it was MC 2.10 to L 4.2. Fair reflection of the game really


what do u mean by that joe blow?beinhg a centrals boy i thought we controlled the game most of the day.what were your thoughts,what do u think we can do to improve from a spectators view?wheels was great plummer excellant and mark jones was great.from lancfield their ruckman bill i think,was good and a small bloke with tatts 33 i think was a standout.special mentions to a young fella kirky,16 and held his own.thanks to the tigers for the hospitality was a great atmosphere after the game

[bearsboy]

Disapointing, 10.20pm Sat night still no results on the RDFL website

[Roy Cazaly]

Disapointing, 10.20pm Sat night still no results on the RDFL website

Im tipping thats because sunbury roos lost as majority of posters are from there. Wonder how their big storm went, obviously involved lots of wind but not much substance. Didnt get to the game, went and watched Ballarat League instead as i was over that way. Can someone give us a brief report. How did Sipthorp v mongrel contest go?

[Rodriguez]

Not sure about any storm but Cuffe played today and must have taken at least 10 contested marks. Has some potential the kid. Sippy pretty handy BOG for Woodend. Good contested footy! Ground Cacti as predicted but a good contest all the same!!

[woody07]

Not sure about any storm but Cuffe played today and must have taken at least 10 contested marks. Has some potential the kid. Sippy pretty handy BOG for Woodend. Good contested footy! Ground Cacti as predicted but a good contest all the same!! Little man should be quiet

Come on Roddy-The big storm was nothing than a light shower. 10 contested marks you might want to halve that and subtract one or two-no influence! Strange move with M. Mcinerney playing on Sip-Sip too strong and Mark played too wide of him. Sip clearly showed he's in a different league when it comes to ability to Mark. Adam Johnstone beat Leigh Mc and Bonnici was well held by Banga and i believe took the points in the end. Helmers no influence on the game. If the roos are honest i'm sure they'll agree Woodend should have won by more-heaps more inside 50's and consequently shots on goal. In my humble opinion Sunbury still the lack discipline through the middle i.e accountability. Unfortunately they seem to kick chase rather than take a man when opposition midfielders have control of the ball. Is Leigh given permission to sit off the contest by Dixon because this a tactic that clearly doesn't work, particularly in conditions like today. One extra onballer will always be more beneficial that a player sitting 10 metres off the contest. Hawks were too tough and hard that the ball. Well done to the roos for an entertaining game-they fought hard. Oh forgot to mention Woodend's backline superb today Wazza great game, back in form-Disco took Ploog to the cleaners-Shea excellent -L and j. hrdwick great and Jubes beat Helmers comprehensively early!

[Doona2]

In one of the better games of footy I've seen this year Kilmore defeated Romsey in a tight encounter. The Blues got out to a five goal lead in the second term, but Romsey kept coming and nearly pinched it with the wind in the final quarter. Cornish kicked 6.

My votes would have been:

3. Linton Kemp - Demolished Redbacks across half-back.
2. Dave Cornish - Everything he touched turned to gold.
1. Brad Colliver - tagged McLellan beautifully.

Honourable mentions go to Campbell Spears for his terrific on the run goal, Chris Wilson for his "softest free kick" give away ever.

Speaking of free kicks, two experienced umpires in Ken Freeman and Troy Jones had shockers. In the second quarter the game got out of control and they didn't handle it too well. I know it isn't an easy gig and I'm not pot shotting these guys because they normally do a good job.

First time poster on Big Footy - Love the read.
Great to play against Kilmore today. They surely wanted the pts more than the redbacks and had more even contributors throughout the day. Kemp set up the Blues attacks across halfback with hard running and delivery into forward line. Redbacks looked dangerous when they moved the ball forward quickly but could not match the passion of the Blues. Great to see so many Kilmore boys having a drink in the rooms after the game. Best of luck for the rest of year.

2007 aint done and dusted for ya's yet lads . . . . . GO BLUES :thumbsu:

[joeblow2]

Centrals rolled Lancefield by around 2 goals. Not sure how the 2nd half was but when I left at half time it was MC 2.10 to L 4.2. Fair reflection of the game really


what do u mean by that joe blow?beinhg a centrals boy i thought we controlled the game most of the day.what were your thoughts,what do u think we can do to improve from a spectators view?wheels was great plummer excellant and mark jones was great.from lancfield their ruckman bill i think,was good and a small bloke with tatts 33 i think was a standout.special mentions to a young fella kirky,16 and held his own.thanks to the tigers for the hospitality was a great atmosphere after the game
More a comment on the standard of the game. Lots of pretty ordinary mistakes. I agree you guys had the upper hand in general play, only reason we were still in it was your poor kicking. As I said, I left at half time, so I can't comment on the second half.

[joeblow2]

Does anyone have a result from Macedon v Rockbank? Seems the league website is falling a bit behind this week.

[Halffullonfence]

Does anyone have a result from Macedon v Rockbank? Seems the league website is falling a bit behind this week.


Rockbank by 20 odd points Cats 1 goal to 3/4 time kicked 5 (i think) in last Q in what was a dissapointing day for them.

[Digger52]

Does anyone have a result from Macedon v Rockbank? Seems the league website is falling a bit behind this week.
Rams got up by 2gls according to paper.Good to see ,they have played some fairly good games this year.
Riddell too good 4 the Burras yesterday .I find it hard to see anyone beating Riddell unless they get a few injuries.Janner sadly missed down back 4 the Burras.Out for a few weeks .
Good to see Bev back & firing in the two"s .Made quiet a difference in the end result I thought.

[OMNIPOTENT_1]

Rams got up by 2gls according to paper.Good to see ,they have played some fairly good games this year.
Riddell too good 4 the Burras yesterday .I find it hard to see anyone beating Riddell unless they get a few injuries.Janner sadly missed down back 4 the Burras.Out for a few weeks .
Good to see Bev back & firing in the two"s .Made quiet a difference in the end result I thought.

Really good game the 2s, congrats' to the Burras on a hard fighting win.
Great to see Bomber Besanko back from his honeymoon going round in the game.............. looked a bit wobbley in the knees though ! :D

[blues12]

Come on Roddy-The big storm was nothing than a light shower. 10 contested marks you might want to halve that and subtract one or two-no influence! Strange move with M. Mcinerney playing on Sip-Sip too strong and Mark played too wide of him. Sip clearly showed he's in a different league when it comes to ability to Mark. Adam Johnstone beat Leigh Mc and Bonnici was well held by Banga and i believe took the points in the end. Helmers no influence on the game. If the roos are honest i'm sure they'll agree Woodend should have won by more-heaps more inside 50's and consequently shots on goal. In my humble opinion Sunbury still the lack discipline through the middle i.e accountability. Unfortunately they seem to kick chase rather than take a man when opposition midfielders have control of the ball. Is Leigh given permission to sit off the contest by Dixon because this a tactic that clearly doesn't work, particularly in conditions like today. One extra onballer will always be more beneficial that a player sitting 10 metres off the contest. Hawks were too tough and hard that the ball. Well done to the roos for an entertaining game-they fought hard. Oh forgot to mention Woodend's backline superb today Wazza great game, back in form-Disco took Ploog to the cleaners-Shea excellent -L and j. hrdwick great and Jubes beat Helmers comprehensively early!


Woody how was the bloke that left with the ambo?
As for cuffe i thought he had a superb game, take into account the conditions and the fact he hasn't played for over a year. Yes sipthorpe was good, he showed the class that he has for the whole game, Mark matched him and in my opinion had the better of him early in the game.
As for should have won by more, that is always the case if a side has more scoring shots, they did enter the 50 more times, leighroy stood up and had a fantastic game in defense with some very good marks.
The ground was like quick sand with grass and woodend played it better than the roos and in the end came away with a good victory.
Well done to the hawks.

Bad luck to the 2 umpires that had to do both under 18s and reserves games, 4 hours running around in the heavey mud.

[Animosity]

they were actually very good umpires too :thumbsu: just paid man in front and let the game flow very freely, kudos!

[blues12]

Speaking of free kicks, two experienced umpires in Ken Freeman and Troy Jones had shockers. In the second quarter the game got out of control and they didn't handle it too well. I know it isn't an easy gig and I'm not pot shotting these guys because they normally do a good job.

come on matt not pot shotting? you named them which in turn is a shot at them, not just the umpiring of the game. Are you still running around with the umps on a wednesday? have fun at training after critisising your team mates (umpires) on a public forum.

[matt_nicholls]

come on matt not pot shotting? you named them which in turn is a shot at them, not just the umpiring of the game. Are you still running around with the umps on a wednesday? have fun at training after critisising your team mates (umpires) on a public forum.

I don't train on Wednesday nights, too much hassle to get to Melton and my life is already busy enough at the moment. Secondly, I'm a journalist first, umpire second. I still have to have an opinion and I'm sure mine reflects those of the crowd and players. Like players, umpires have bad games. I mention players that don't play well too.

If someone has a crack at my umpiring it doesn't particularly phase me. I've had pretty good feedback but I reckon you know almost straight away if you've made a blue on the field. Sometimes I wish I could blow my whistle again and take back a free I've paid but its a quick game and you can't ponder for too long on a decision because there is another straight after to make.

Speaking of umpiring, I rolled my ankle in the third term of the first game I was scheduled to officiate in today. Had to miss the second. Twas a shame as I like umpiring U14 games on my own, good challenge for a newbie like me.

[Umpire22]

I don't train on Wednesday nights, too much hassle to get to Melton and my life is already busy enough at the moment. Secondly, I'm a journalist first, umpire second. I still have to have an opinion and I'm sure mine reflects those of the crowd and players. Like players, umpires have bad games. I mention players that don't play well too.



yeah mate but the difference is you can say what players have had a bad game and it is water off a ducks back, but when you start mentioning umpires names it reflects negatively on umpiring in general, it's hard enough for us to retain and recruit umpires without this sort of bad publisity:thumbsd:

troy was our number one umpire last year and unfortunately due to injury hasn't been able to get up and running this year, and ken freeman is one of the most respected blokes in the association, because of his knees he can hardly even walk but still manages to get out there every weekend and run his game. i think your comments were in bad taste mate.

[ORANGE UMP]

I don't train on Wednesday nights, too much hassle to get to Melton and my life is already busy enough at the moment. Secondly, I'm a journalist first, umpire second. I still have to have an opinion and I'm sure mine reflects those of the crowd and players. Like players, umpires have bad games. I mention players that don't play well too.

If someone has a crack at my umpiring it doesn't particularly phase me. I've had pretty good feedback but I reckon you know almost straight away if you've made a blue on the field. Sometimes I wish I could blow my whistle again and take back a free I've paid but its a quick game and you can't ponder for too long on a decision because there is another straight after to make.

Speaking of umpiring, I rolled my ankle in the third term of the first game I was scheduled to officiate in today. Had to miss the second. Twas a shame as I like umpiring U14 games on my own, good challenge for a newbie like me.

I think you will find matt that you don't have to have an opinion. It is actually quite easy to say nothing at all. How often do you hear an umpire tell a player that he made a mistake or in your case a journo, you don't see us telling you that you made a spelling mistake or used incorrect grammer. Umpire 22 got it right about the 2 umpires on saturday. Feel free not to make excuses about being to busy and come down wednesday, why not try and get through one of Troy's fitness sessions and request an U/18 game before you do you jorno, i better spell it right journalist work!!!! Also your not to fased about comments about your umpiring, fancy that, you can make those comments when you have done a top of the table senior clash with a large crowd, its a little different to a mum telling you that her 10 yr old son should have got a free kick!!!!!

[matt_nicholls]

Pfft. Once again you umps take my comments far too seriously. I think its admirable that you are defending your peers, but you had to be there to believe it. I'm sure Harry Wilson will be able to back me up when he gets online today :D.

Secondly, I already have commitments on Saturday mornings that rule out doing 18s games. Would be very interested in the challenge but I made a commitment to officiate Assumption matches.

Thirdly, why can't you blokes admit you had a bad game? Often I pick up the paper on a Wednesday and say 'I could have written that better', or Why didn't I structure my story that way'. Sports writers are specifically reporters, but it is also an opinion-based career.

If I say Matt McLellan had a shocker, which he did, it isn't water off a ducks back for him. He cops it on the chin and comes out the following week and gets 30 possies. Steve Burlak took the criticism when I said he was playing poorly early in the season and has responded well.

Kenny and Troy know they didn't have their best games and will no doubt be better next week.

[Mongrel]

Come on Roddy-The big storm was nothing than a light shower. 10 contested marks you might want to halve that and subtract one or two-no influence! Strange move with M. Mcinerney playing on Sip-Sip too strong and Mark played too wide of him. Sip clearly showed he's in a different league when it comes to ability to Mark. Adam Johnstone beat Leigh Mc and Bonnici was well held by Banga and i believe took the points in the end. Helmers no influence on the game. If the roos are honest i'm sure they'll agree Woodend should have won by more-heaps more inside 50's and consequently shots on goal. In my humble opinion Sunbury still the lack discipline through the middle i.e accountability. Unfortunately they seem to kick chase rather than take a man when opposition midfielders have control of the ball. Is Leigh given permission to sit off the contest by Dixon because this a tactic that clearly doesn't work, particularly in conditions like today. One extra onballer will always be more beneficial that a player sitting 10 metres off the contest. Hawks were too tough and hard that the ball. Well done to the roos for an entertaining game-they fought hard. Oh forgot to mention Woodend's backline superb today Wazza great game, back in form-Disco took Ploog to the cleaners-Shea excellent -L and j. hrdwick great and Jubes beat Helmers comprehensively early!

by the sounds of this post the hawks should have won by twelve goals.
it was a very hard fought game with woodend taking the honours in a game that could have gone either way.yes sippy had a good game,but the ankle deep mud did suit him more than the fleet footed mak mcinerney.
i also agree that jubes did a fair job tagging me,and bonnicci was also kept below his best.i think u will find that coach jarrod dixon played guys in strange positions because the reality is these two sides will meet in the first final and he wasnt going to show all his cards yet.i thought cuffe was superb and yes i will play on sippy in the finals.

[catters078]

hard earned win for kilmore on the weekend, hats off to em,

looking at the draw diggers have 3 games they should win against melton lancefield and macedon

kilmores last 2 against macedon and rockbank they'll win, but this week against the hawks is the game that shapes the finals. if the blues drop it diggers will take back the 2 point lead going into the last 2 games. Win it, they'll maintain their lead and lock themselves into the 5. i know its monday and theyre fresh from a big win, but i think everyone should be looking forward to the biggest match of their season on saturday..

[Umpire22]

Pfft. Once again you umps take my comments far too seriously. I think its admirable that you are defending your peers, but you had to be there to believe it. I'm sure Harry Wilson will be able to back me up when he gets online today :D.

Secondly, I already have commitments on Saturday mornings that rule out doing 18s games. Would be very interested in the challenge but I made a commitment to officiate Assumption matches.

Thirdly, why can't you blokes admit you had a bad game? Often I pick up the paper on a Wednesday and say 'I could have written that better', or Why didn't I structure my story that way'. Sports writers are specifically reporters, but it is also an opinion-based career.

If I say Matt McLellan had a shocker, which he did, it isn't water off a ducks back for him. He cops it on the chin and comes out the following week and gets 30 possies. Steve Burlak took the criticism when I said he was playing poorly early in the season and has responded well.

Kenny and Troy know they didn't have their best games and will no doubt be better next week.


we can admit to having a bad one champ (unless you talk to semmo:D), but for someone whos opinion influences alot of other people your comments were not on. to say you single out individual players from time to time doesn't cut it in this argument because thats one in 22, what you have done here is name our whole team.

[matt_nicholls]

we can admit to having a bad one champ (unless you talk to semmo:D), but for someone whos opinion influences alot of other people your comments were not on. to say you single out individual players from time to time doesn't cut it in this argument because thats one in 22, what you have done here is name our whole team.

Umpires have to be accountable too. My comments mean jack shit. I reckon I spoke to over 50 blokes on Saturday and pretty much all of them thought the umps had a bad day. In contrast, two weeks ago, the umpiring at J.J. Clancy Reserve for the Kilmore v Diggers Rest clash was superb and noted by the spectators and players.

[dpagan]

Question to all out there. Who decides the best players for games each week? they continue to amaze me and plenty of others???

[Digger52]

Umpires have to be accountable too. My comments mean jack shit. I reckon I spoke to over 50 blokes on Saturday and pretty much all of them thought the umps had a bad day. In contrast, two weeks ago, the umpiring at J.J. Clancy Reserve for the Kilmore v Diggers Rest clash was superb and noted by the spectators and players.

Hey Matt
Does anyone know the ressie results from weekend .RDFL website must be playing up.Diggers beat Riddell by 9pts .Does anyone else wanna let others know the results please especially Roos v Hawks.

[matt_nicholls]

Hey Matt
Does anyone know the ressie results from weekend .RDFL website must be playing up.Diggers beat Riddell by 9pts .Does anyone else wanna let others know the results please especially Roos v Hawks.

Woodend/Hesket 2.5 6.6 9.9 11.9 (75)
Sunbury Kangaroos 1.0 2.0 2.1 4.3 (27)
GOALS: Woodend/Hesket: D Salpietro 4 S Millard
2 B Olivieri 1 A Fox 1 M Bourke 1 D Boyle 1 P
Vella 1 Sunbury Kangaroos: A Salm 2 G Gilmore
1 J Hocking 1

BEST: Woodend/Hesket: D Salpietro P Vella B
Olivieri A Fox S Millard M Stevens Sunbury
Kangaroos: S Davis D Powell M Pelly W Bowden S
Fraser S Boyd

Romsey 3.4 6.5 7.7 9.7 (61)
Kilmore 2.1 3.3 5.3 6.4 (40)
GOALS: Romsey: M Darby 4 S Dremel 2 M Carroll 1
B Walters 1 S Tucker 1 Kilmore: S Heather 2 T
Symons 2 J Tennant 1 K Ramsdale 1

BEST: Romsey: S Dremel T Brady M Darby M
Dipietro M Carroll D Repacholi Kilmore: D
Saunders R Blake M Davern S Heather J
Sutherland R Scetrine

Rockbank 2.3 4.4 5.6 6.7 (43)
Macedon FC 2.3 2.4 2.7 3.15 (33)
GOALS: Rockbank: F Offer 1 R Lalli-Cafini 1 B
Ruane 1 S Formica 1 A Mackay 1 G McInerney 1
Macedon FC: M Taylor 2 N Morabito 1

BEST: Rockbank: S Formica A Calleja B Ruane J
Vaiano G McInerney J Stafford Macedon FC: M
Ploumatos R Tadd S Barrett B Bell M Smith C
Axton

Diggers Rest 2.2 5.9 6.10 7.13 (55)
Riddell 4.1 5.2 6.4 7.5 (47)
GOALS: Diggers Rest: G Hannon 1 B Sheehan 1 S Underwood 1 M
Sheahan 1 R Billinghurst 1 P Elliott 1 K Pearce
1 Riddell: M Palmer 3 D Grant 2 J Linnell 1 T
Marinier 1

BEST: Diggers Rest: C Eddy N Pinder M Sheahan B Green T
Bourne K Pearce Riddell: M Palmer R Sonogan D
Grant D Burke K Greasley B Marks

Melton Central 3.6 4.13 9.17 15.20 (110)
Lancefield 0.1 0.1 0.3 1.3 (9)
GOALS: Melton Central: C Mullins 5 G McDermott
2 J Hannett 1 S Scalzo 1 D Viney 1 P Mackay 1 W
Hardham 1 A McNabb 1 D Heath 1 M Shugg 1
Lancefield: S Curran 1

BEST: Melton Central: M Martin D Heath D Viney
M Shugg G McDermott S Scalzo Lancefield: T
Blackhall S Curran B Bacon-Dudderidge P Gardner
S Ingram S Stevenson

[matt_nicholls]

Question to all out there. Who decides the best players for games each week? they continue to amaze me and plenty of others???

Which game do you have the problem with?

[Umpire22]

Umpires have to be accountable too. My comments mean jack shit. I reckon I spoke to over 50 blokes on Saturday and pretty much all of them thought the umps had a bad day. In contrast, two weeks ago, the umpiring at J.J. Clancy Reserve for the Kilmore v Diggers Rest clash was superb and noted by the spectators and players.

mate we could be having ripper days and 50 blokes at the local footy could think we were shit house. The guys know if they've had a bad day, the perception of umpires isn't great as it is, so for comments like that to be posted on a highly read public forum (especially the fact it contained names) has the potential to be damaging.

on a better note, Thanks for the pump up:p

[discoduck]

My comments mean jack shit.

the MOST 100% correct thing ever spoken on bigfooty.:D

[Doona2]

hard earned win for kilmore on the weekend, hats off to em,

looking at the draw diggers have 3 games they should win against melton lancefield and macedon

kilmores last 2 against macedon and rockbank they'll win, but this week against the hawks is the game that shapes the finals. if the blues drop it diggers will take back the 2 point lead going into the last 2 games. Win it, they'll maintain their lead and lock themselves into the 5. i know its monday and theyre fresh from a big win, but i think everyone should be looking forward to the biggest match of their season on saturday..

Biggest game of some of the young fella's careers Id say, Im backing the Blues to keep on coming :thumbsu:

[Itsmyshow]

Finally someone has admitted to the fact that he won't play this year :thumbsu:

Good ploy though, to put the fear of Jesus into the RDFL oppositon, well done Roos, well done.:thumbsu:


Oops.. May have been a little misleading the post saying he wouldn't play this year... Sorry Harry :p

[Itsmyshow]

Biggest game of some of the young fella's careers Id say, Im backing the Blues to keep on coming :thumbsu:

Going to take a monumentous effort for the Blues to get over the Hawks... Sippy Vs Robbo please coaches, lets see these two go toe to toe... :thumbsu:

[Itsmyshow]

Come on Roddy-The big storm was nothing than a light shower. 10 contested marks you might want to halve that and subtract one or two-no influence! Strange move with M. Mcinerney playing on Sip-Sip too strong and Mark played too wide of him. Sip clearly showed he's in a different league when it comes to ability to Mark. Adam Johnstone beat Leigh Mc and Bonnici was well held by Banga and i believe took the points in the end. Helmers no influence on the game. If the roos are honest i'm sure they'll agree Woodend should have won by more-heaps more inside 50's and consequently shots on goal. In my humble opinion Sunbury still the lack discipline through the middle i.e accountability. Unfortunately they seem to kick chase rather than take a man when opposition midfielders have control of the ball. Is Leigh given permission to sit off the contest by Dixon because this a tactic that clearly doesn't work, particularly in conditions like today. One extra onballer will always be more beneficial that a player sitting 10 metres off the contest. Hawks were too tough and hard that the ball. Well done to the roos for an entertaining game-they fought hard. Oh forgot to mention Woodend's backline superb today Wazza great game, back in form-Disco took Ploog to the cleaners-Shea excellent -L and j. hrdwick great and Jubes beat Helmers comprehensively early!

Wow Woody, I am sure that the guys down at Woodend will be rapt that you have posted this, from the chats I had with the guys after the game most thought that it was a fantastic arm wrestle that everyone cant wait to see take place again. Woodend were very good on Saturday, that the margin should have been much more, possibly, that Cuffe didn't have an impact?? Strange.. But you are entitled to your "Humble" even if the post if far from it opinion.

Sipthorpe played a great game of football, Warren Else was ok, thought that Pods was damaging, Bowen and Fennell early got plenty of the ball. Johnno was good, mainly in the last quarter though. Disco did play well on Ploog, dont know about that trip to the cleaners though. Overall, the Hawks played a better team game on the day and outplayed the Roos, but this year is far from over.... Dowling was well held, Matt Welsh dominated the far wing against Cuinik, Cuffe was playing in his first senior game in a while, will get better, scary to think how much better he can get. As for the contested mark situation, Jamie took 7 contested marks and 12 all up.

[dpagan]

Pickles, I have a problem with three games that consist of best players and conflicting reports that I have spoken to people at various grounds over the weekend. Who decides these best players?

[Harry Wilson]

Oops.. May have been a little misleading the post saying he wouldn't play this year... Sorry Harry :p

You lied.... I'm hurt:(

Well done Roos, a rumor that was quickly swallowed, then regurgitated and now has to be swallowed again, leaves a bad taste in the mouth:thumbsu: Bringing Cuffe in just in time for finals..... do you not have faith in James?????:D

I am still trying to swallow my pride. I thought I had the right mail, considering it came direct from the man's mouth.

Note to all Big Footy RDFL thread readers, DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM THE ROOS!!!! :D:D God, I'm bitter!! You got me. I'm going to have to start a rumor myself in retaliation....... Let me stew for a while.:thumbsu:

[dpagan]

Here goes based on what I have heard. Robertson did not have much of an influence when I was there but don't get me wrong a great win to the blues. Cornish was great but the red head)(Kemp) I think was rebounding all day. Robertson featured in the best players. Bonnici is a star but very quite. Was told he got a little of it but was one of the best. Just asking who decides or does the best players?

[Itsmyshow]

You lied.... I'm hurt:(

Well done Roos, a rumor that was quickly swallowed, then regurgitated and now has to be swallowed again, leaves a bad taste in the mouth:thumbsu: Bringing Cuffe in just in time for finals..... do you not have faith in James?????:D

I am still trying to swallow my pride. I thought I had the right mail, considering it came direct from the man's mouth.

Note to all Big Footy RDFL thread readers, DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM THE ROOS!!!! God, I'm bitter!! You got me. I'm going to have to start a rumor myself in retaliation....... Let me stew for a while.

Lol.. Nothing wrong with improving an already strong rucking lineup is there Harry :D
Jamie will be a very handy young up and comer heading into finals.. Looking forward to seeing a bit more of the young man... Wonder what his odds are for the Bowen :p

[B.O.G]

by the sounds of this post the hawks should have won by twelve goals.
it was a very hard fought game with woodend taking the honours in a game that could have gone either way.yes sippy had a good game,but the ankle deep mud did suit him more than the fleet footed mak mcinerney.
i also agree that jubes did a fair job tagging me,and bonnicci was also kept below his best.i think u will find that coach jarrod dixon played guys in strange positions because the reality is these two sides will meet in the first final and he wasnt going to show all his cards yet.i thought cuffe was superb and yes i will play on sippy in the finals.

its going to be good game to see sippy at full flight when he dosent have to be restrained by ankle deep mud, if he can damage the roos the way he did in that mud imagine what he will do when the ground is in good nik....scary times for the roos......and helmers for the next time he lines up on him. jubes did a fantastic job wasnt tagging helmers but just made him accountable for him, which it didnt look like helmers was happy to do- still played loose in defence, id say helmers had more punches thrown that possesions on satdy. did he get injured????? or just an off game???

not showing the cards is quite true, as for cuffe he was fantastic for a guy who hasnt played all year will be a massive asset come finals time, extremely hard to match up on, needing a big guy with a big engine to keep up with him.

just a qwik question is there many if any to come back in2 the teams that played satdy from both teams roos n hawks??

[Harry Wilson]

[quote=matt_nicholls;8322895]Pfft. Once again you umps take my comments far too seriously. I think its admirable that you are defending your peers, but you had to be there to believe it. I'm sure Harry Wilson will be able to back me up when he gets online today :D.

Well, here I am. To say the umpiring was terrible early would be a MASSIVE understatement. I realise that the umps do the community a huge service and I would never want to do or say anything that would jeopodise that. As far as Matt's comments, I agree whole heartedly, except for the fact he named them. The people who matter, who were at the game, know who the umpires were.

Now, there were a number of incidents during the game that caused severe frustration to players, coaches and the spectators. At one stage, Matt McLellan was punched in the family jewells and then in the face, to which he recieved a cut lip. Matty Mac of course, got up and remonstrated with the offender. It was then the umpire got involved, once Matty had retaliated. I understand that you should wear the hits and that the person who retaliates always gets punished. But this incident happened 2 metres away from the umpire in question. Why didn't he pull the player up to begin with or just issue a warning, everyone knows Matty Mac isn't the sort of player to start trouble. The umpire then awarded a 50m penalty.

Another incident saw Brydon Morgan question an umpire during play, to which the umpire's response was "Stop F*****G whinging!". Another, I was having the ball short passed to me, when the umpire ran in between me and the ball. This caused me to have to stop short as I was going to run into him. Once the ball had cleared I yelled at him to "get out of the way" to which he replied "shut up you F***'n smart arse". Tempers flared and a few spot fires started up around the ground. The decision from the same umpire to award a free kick after I was being hasseled by 2 opposition players, when I pushed one of them was a discrace to say the least. I belive this is the incident Pickles gave a special mention to being the "Softest Free Kick". I pushed the guy in the chest, without malice or anger, more to clear him away from me. My team had the ball 40 metres out from goal, why would I remonstrate in anger when my team is having a shot for goal? As stated earlier, the person who retaliates gets punished. Granted I shouldn't have pushed him, but to reverse the free kick was absurd.

I approached both umpires at the half time siren, in a calm mannor and suggested that they should have a good look at the way the game was being umpired. They were over officiating and in turn inciting the frustrations. I told them that I would speak to the Romsey boys and tell them to pull their heads in. After half time the game changed. The umpires stopped the rubbish as did the players and we all got on with the game. I spoke to the umpires again after the final siren and congratualted them on turning it around. I also apologised for approaching them when I am not the captain, to which they said that as I approached them in a non threatening mannor it was acceptable.

As I stated earlier, I can appreciate the job these guys do, but surely you can't speak to the players the way that certain umpire did in the first half of the game and expect them to carry on their merry little way. All the players want and spectators for that matter, is consistancy.

Harry's Done!

[vantheman32]

then the umpires turned on kilmore in the 2nd half after harrys little chat haha...
i read someone asks who picks the best players... i also wonder because sometimes it seems as if they mustnt really watch the match... i would say that jamie duffy was easily in kilmores top 6 on saturday along with a few others but were left out... n why does it just have 2 be a top 6, if you beat a rockbank by 100 points theres no way they have 6 best players..... seems strange to me¿

[Mongrel]

its going to be good game to see sippy at full flight when he dosent have to be restrained by ankle deep mud, if he can damage the roos the way he did in that mud imagine what he will do when the ground is in good nik....scary times for the roos......and helmers for the next time he lines up on him. jubes did a fantastic job wasnt tagging helmers but just made him accountable for him, which it didnt look like helmers was happy to do- still played loose in defence, id say helmers had more punches thrown that possesions on satdy. did he get injured????? or just an off game???

not showing the cards is quite true, as for cuffe he was fantastic for a guy who hasnt played all year will be a massive asset come finals time, extremely hard to match up on, needing a big guy with a big engine to keep up with him.

just a qwik question is there many if any to come back in2 the teams that played satdy from both teams roos n hawks??

im happy 2 answer any question in relation to myself.i was not injured and wont make any excuses.it was a very hard fought game and look forward to the first final.please people when u praise sippy for his great game take into account his opponent had 30 possessions.