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matt_nicholls
4 Sep 2007, 18:23
what happend to having the entire votes on a sheet at the count last night to see who got what votes in what round?
wornt you working on that matty????
went home a bit early i noticed, and there was no girl on your arm as an excuse either!!!!!

good night had by all, but i think the major talking point was the major difference in the voting, im not having a go at the rockbank player but when the team losses to riddel by a bit you would have though that the riddell players would have polled all the votes, but not in that case?

BOG on the night was good matt, cam dawson, blind, stevey james, maybe we could call him "PETER HOARE" serial pest, he bailled up a few blokes last night for a good long chat.
and the 1 vote to the u18 moron who due to spewing his guts up all over his shirt had to resort to leaving the venue ion his (or his team mates ) inter leauge jumper, very poor form!!!!!

as for the winners well done!!!
rooster i think coogee is waiting for you, i think a ticket-tek parade is on the cards for your first night up there, plus i think they are giving you the keys to the town???

also i see that the votes for the bowen are up on the website, what about the other awards? 2's, 18's netball, buffalo awards ect, would be good to get the round by round votes.

please get off your ass mr nicholls and do some thing about this.......................

ps i tell u also matty you werent to far off the serial pest tag either with the book you were running, i know your just waiting for the age or the sun to call you up, but you could have laid off a bit asking everyone 3 times
"wanna have bit on the bowen???"

good nite had by all!!!!!!!!

Thanks BOG. But I made such a killing last night it was worth the nagging. I'll put in a request for the other round by round votes, but not today, the league exec are tired and have gone home for the day.

As for leaving early, I was in here at 7am this morning champ giving the public the scoop. No need to bring ladies to the Bowen either, they only get in the way :D

goblues09
4 Sep 2007, 18:25
http://www.rdfl.org.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=125924

all the votes from every Essendon Nissan Cup match in 2007

apparently this was too hard :D

bearsboy
4 Sep 2007, 18:55
Well done to all the winners!
There's more confusing issues than that. For example, Guy Donovan just 3 votes even though he's comprehnsively beaten some of the best midfeiders in the comp including breaking even with Bonnici in the game at Woodend. Just shows hair styles and reputation still count for a lot in the league. Surprised he didn't get a mention ( at the very least on the bench) of the team of the year! Scooter very stiff after taking a side to the top of the ladder (again) with quite a few young blokes and after a few of his more experienced players left! Teams and players who yell the loudest in this league still get heard.Well done to the Kangaroos coach on winning coach of the year but Scooter is on the verge of back to back flags in his 2nd year of coaching. "Stiff" is an understatement !

Kings Army
4 Sep 2007, 20:32
Well done to the Kangaroos coach on winning coach of the year but Scooter is on the verge of back to back flags in his 2nd year of coaching. "Stiff" is an understatement !


I would not read to much into a popularity contest.

Matt N - could you post the last 15 Bowen Medal winners?

bearsboy
4 Sep 2007, 21:02
BOWEN MEDAL WINNERS

1946 William Else (Hesket) and Jack Howard (Riddell) 22 votes.
1947 Bill Shaw (Romsey) 38 votes.
1948 William Else (Hesket) 32 votes.
1949 Bill Shaw (Romsey) 23 votes.
1950 Frank Fitzgerald (Gisborne) 21 votes.
1951 Ray Allen (Macedon) 26 votes.
1952 Ray Russell (Lancefield) 14 votes.
1953 Bill Shaw (Romsey) 17 votes.
1954 Jack Hiscock (Trentham) 30 votes.
1955 Barry Palmer (Sunbury) 25 votes.
1956 Jim Godden (Woodend) 26 votes.
1957 Geoff Barber (Kilmore) 31 votes.
1958 Keith Shannon (Lancefield) 21 votes.
1959 Bernie Shannon (Lancefield) 19 votes.
1960 Jack Hiscock (Trentham) 26 votes.
1961 Rodney Muir (Hesket) 17 votes.
1962 Bob Holmes (Trentham) 23 votes.
1963 Tom Sankey (Gisborne) 26 votes.
1964 Rodney Muir (Hesket) 24 votes.
1965 Tom Sankey (Gisborne) 23 votes.
1966 Ray Taylor (Macedon) 31 votes.
1967 Ron Howard (Riddell) and Tom Sankey* (Gisborne) 22 votes.
1968 Bryan Lee (Romsey) 27 votes.
1969 Tom Sankey (Gisborne) 26 votes.
1970 Graham Kays (Gisborne) 38 votes.
1971 Les Benjamin (Wallan) 27 votes.
1972 Allan Rettalick (Riddell) 32 votes.
1973 Allan Rettalick (Riddell) 27 votes.
1974 Greg Liddell (Kilmore) 32 votes.
1975 Ken Conduit (Sunbury) 28 votes.
1976 Laurie Thomas (Gisborne) 27 votes.
1977 Scott Sheldon (Melton) 21 votes.
1978 Scott Sheldon (Melton) 16 votes.
1979 Greg Beck (W/Hesket) 19 votes.
1980 John Fitzgerald (Gisborne) 22 votes.
1981 Shane Muir (W/Hesket) 29 votes.
1982 Ian Benjamin (Wallan) 25 votes.
1983 Brett Hickey (Melton Sth) 19 votes.
1984 Hugh Carey (Melton) and Shane Muir (Melton Sth) 27 votes.
1985 Graham Harrison (Diggers Rest) 22 votes.
1986 Steve Howard (Diggers Rest) 29 votes.
1987 Rod Johnson (Jacana) and Mark Hunter (Melton) 25 votes.
1988 Tas Turley (Sunbury) and Michael Hewat (Darley) 16 votes.
1989 Alexis Miller (Darley) 22 votes.
1990 Steve Nash (Sunbury) 25 votes.
1991 Terry Love (Melton) 21 votes.
1992 Andrew Willmott (Sunbury) 17 votes.
1993 Ibrahim Kaakour (Cragieburn) 21 votes.
1994 Jason Sikorski (Melton Sth) 17 votes.
1995 Mark Power (Sunbury) 26 votes.
1996 Mark Power (Sunbury) 15 votes.
1997 Jamie Cuffe (Romsey) 36 votes.
1998 Gavin Langborne (Wallan) 20 votes.
1999 Dean Fitzpatrick (Wallan) 32 votes.
2000 Luke Edwards (Romsey) 22 votes.
2001 Brett Spencer (Wallan) 26 votes.
2002 Mark Strack (Romsey) and Robbie Wittmer (Kilmore) 25 votes.
2003 Mark Strack (Romsey) 26 votes.
2004 Alistair Meldrum (Romsey) 18 votes.
2005 Lee James (Riddell) 22 votes.
2006 Steve Ruane (Diggers Rest) 23 votes.

* Tom Sankey was an equal winner of the Bowen Medal 1967, but was reported that year. At the time, players who were reported were deemed ineligible. He was awarded a retrospective Bowen Medal when the rules were changed at a later year.They're you go son !

footy mad 2
4 Sep 2007, 21:51
[quote=Kings Army;8640597]I would not read to much into a popularity contest.

SOUR GRAPES!!!!! What has been done at that club is way above only what you now see at the ground level. From a person who was not around the club for a long time and to recently start being a bit more regular, the changes around the place are huge. I'm sure this would have hugely worked in his favour when it comes to this award. Just as I am sure that there are many other people behind the scenes who don't get a pat on the back every week the team has a win, who will know within themselves they helped him win the award. :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu::thumb su:
Call it a popularity contest if you like but it is the first time I have heard anybody call the KANGAS popular with this league. :eek:

Cobber21
4 Sep 2007, 21:58
[Call it a popularity contest if you like but it is the first time I have heard anybody call the KANGAS popular with this league. :eek:

yeah, you're right...

4thburra
4 Sep 2007, 22:31
i know everyone will shirt front the issue but i know for a fact that many ppl around this league knew bonacci was 1 vote behind belleville and robertson was 3 votes behind belleville coming into the last game, i know you hear rumors but i dont think its a rumor when its narrowed down to the exact margin,

belleville was actually one vote behind bonnici.
otherwise he would have won it.

ozdevil1978
4 Sep 2007, 22:35
does any1 know know how wheels went in the b&f at centrals ?

petespies
4 Sep 2007, 22:36
belleville was actually one vote behind bonnici.
otherwise he would have won it.

thats how it finished, if you read i said coming into the last round, i.e before the last round, pre last game, theres 18 rounds so that would mean after round 17;)

footy mad 2
4 Sep 2007, 22:44
thats how it finished, if you read i said coming into the last round, i.e before the last round, pre last game, theres 18 rounds so that would mean after round 17;)

So one can only assume you must have cleaned up on the betting.
Hey Matt, seeing everyone new who was going to win you must be short of cash. I know how you can make a quick 50.

4thburra
4 Sep 2007, 22:48
thats how it finished, if you read i said coming into the last round, i.e before the last round, pre last game, theres 18 rounds so that would mean after round 17;)

bingo.
my bad.

OMNIPOTENT_1
4 Sep 2007, 23:10
I would not read to much into a popularity contest.

Matt N - could you post the last 15 Bowen Medal winners?

as ive said in an earlier post that it is a shame that so many ppl knew the results and not only that- knew it down to how many votes they won by, i hope in the future it can be handled in a more professional manner, i know everyone will shirt front the issue but i know for a fact that many ppl around this league knew bonnicci was 1 vote behind belleville and roberson was 3 votes behind belleville coming into the last game, i know you hear rumors but i dont think its a rumor when its narrowed down to the exact margin, anyways all pete has to say is poor form by those who couldnt keep there mouths closed :thumbsd:
oh and whats it called when you take bets when you already know the results....:rolleyes:???

one last thing, definately dont take anything away from bonnicci, watched many sunbury games this year and he was outstanding, congrats:thumbsu:

Well done to the Kangaroos coach on winning coach of the year but Scooter is on the verge of back to back flags in his 2nd year of coaching. "Stiff" is an understatement !

Quick IMS turn the Dick Head Magnet off ! Thread all full up now.
" Heeees Baaaaack "

rockbank_fan
4 Sep 2007, 23:10
well done to all winners and runner up
now we get down to the weekend finals what a big game between riddle and sunbury kangaroos this saturday.riddle as far as i am concerned riddle are going to out score the kangaroos by about 40 points because i think the kangaroos are not up to riddle's standard.riddle are a far better side than the kangaroos riddle give 100 minutes of football and do not give up untill the final siren

blues12
4 Sep 2007, 23:43
Well done to the Kangaroos coach on winning coach of the year but Scooter is on the verge of back to back flags in his 2nd year of coaching. "Stiff" is an understatement !

Coaches all vote on who should be awarded, some believe it should be the premiership coach.(bit hard when it is awarded before the GF). Maybe who finishes on top should get it.
If all coaches take on board ladder positions from last year to this year, who has improved the most? I think it would be Sunbury, Romsey and Kilmore, Rowsell has done a great job at Riddell, to lose 6 or 7 players, recruit and promote the kids and only lose 1 game is a great effort.

:thumbsu: Congratulations to Jarrod, he has done a great job over the past 3 years.
The roos are still in the finals, who knows, it could be the premiership coach :rolleyes: well i hope so anyway.

blues12
5 Sep 2007, 00:17
Matty what happened to the free press lift out with the big run down that you said would be present on Bowen medal night?

Animosity
5 Sep 2007, 00:42
well done to all winners and runner up
now we get down to the weekend finals what a big game between riddle and sunbury kangaroos this saturday.riddle as far as i am concerned riddle are going to out score the kangaroos by about 40 points because i think the kangaroos are not up to riddle's standard.riddle are a far better side than the kangaroos riddle give 100 minutes of football and do not give up untill the final siren

thats quite a "riddle"

Animosity
5 Sep 2007, 00:53
Well done to the Kangaroos coach on winning coach of the year but Scooter is on the verge of back to back flags in his 2nd year of coaching. "Stiff" is an understatement !

In this blokes opinion,to mention the past in a coach of the (current) YEAR is not valid.No doubt a potential "threepeat" and taking back to back as a personal coach is a great achievement yes. But the critics will be absolutely silenced if dixon can take his boys to the big one,quite frankly i wouldnt have been suprised if the rockbank coach got the award for actually coaching the rams off the bottom of the ladder let alone being a more than competitive 'cellar dweller' team in season '07 or even Simon Choate, for a lad his age to be as competive as lancefield have been this year has also been a feat in its own.

To put it simply,I think the award could have went to quite a few canditates,but dixon was a worthy winner overall.Some were "stiff" ... but it isnt an understatement.

Kings Army
5 Sep 2007, 07:24
Quick IMS turn the Dick Head Magnet off ! Thread all full up now.
" Heeees Baaaaack "


Run to your boyfriend when things are posted you don't like!! At least we know who wears the skirt in the relationship.

Didtn't the Riddell coach out coach the Sunbury coach by more than 100 points this year. Yeah they really got this one right!

blues12
5 Sep 2007, 08:40
Run to your boyfriend when things are posted you don't like!! At least we know who wears the skirt in the relationship.

Didtn't the Riddell coach out coach the Sunbury coach by more than 100 points this year. Yeah they really got this one right!

Come on kings, are you not even willing to reserve your judgement until the end of the year? Do you really think a coach out coaching the other can be 100 point difference, i think players would have to make up for quite a large portion of that.
In alot of peoples eyes we will see the coach of the year in 3 weeks. Lets wait until then.
Kings why just criticise 1 out of 23 in the team of the year, Have a crack at the whole side yourself. Let us all see how wrong or right you may get it.

Cobber21
5 Sep 2007, 08:50
oh and whats it called when you take bets when you already know the results....:rolleyes:???


If this is true, it is a disgrace. I'd be asking for money back

woody07
5 Sep 2007, 09:32
as ive said in an earlier post that it is a shame that so many ppl knew the results and not only that- knew it down to how many votes they won by, i hope in the future it can be handled in a more professional manner, i know everyone will shirt front the issue but i know for a fact that many ppl around this league knew bonnicci was 1 vote behind belleville and roberson was 3 votes behind belleville coming into the last game, i know you hear rumors but i dont think its a rumor when its narrowed down to the exact margin, anyways all pete has to say is poor form by those who couldnt keep there mouths closed :thumbsd:
oh and whats it called when you take bets when you already know the results....:rolleyes:???

one last thing, definately dont take anything away from bonnicci, watched many sunbury games this year and he was outstanding, congrats:thumbsu:

I'm NOT suggesting there has been any betting scandal whatsoever; however i have to back up Pete’s Pie on this one. I was told before the count (on Sun) who would win and what would happen in the last round. There has definitely been a leak, and the league should be a tad embarrassed. I know it's not the Brownlow but for future credibility of the medal (calling the result), and just overall anticipation on the night it shouldn't happen again! I know there's a few people being coy on this one as i'm aware of few people and posters that knew this was the case!

BrownDog2
5 Sep 2007, 09:36
Tribunal results from last night anyone?

Doona2
5 Sep 2007, 10:57
I'm NOT suggesting there has been any betting scandal whatsoever; however i have to back up Pete’s Pie on this one. I was told before the count (on Sun) who would win and what would happen in the last round. There has definitely been a leak, and the league should be a tad embarrassed. I know it's not the Brownlow but for future credibility of the medal (calling the result), and just overall anticipation on the night it shouldn't happen again! I know there's a few people being coy on this one as i'm aware of few people and posters that knew this was the case!

It's wrong if there was a leak and the people in those positions of trust should be sanctioned by the club delegates - I'm a wee bit confused there's some big allegations on here but surely if Pickles was laying bets he didn't benefit from some inside info :confused:

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 11:23
It's wrong if there was a leak and the people in those positions of trust should be sanctioned by the club delegates - I'm a wee bit confused there's some big allegations on here but surely if Pickles was laying bets he didn't benefit from some inside info :confused:

There is no way I had information on the Bowen Medal count. The only info I had was second hand off someone else who reckoned they knew, and that happens every year. If you scroll back to Monday's posts, I actually tipped Belleville!!!

Also, Scott McCartney didn't have enough time to get the Bowen liftout on the tables. I'm sure you can get a copy from RDFL house.

blues12
5 Sep 2007, 11:27
Tribunal results from last night anyone?


I think they are still there :D

blues12
5 Sep 2007, 11:31
There is no way I had information on the Bowen Medal count. The only info I had was second hand off someone else who reckoned they knew, and that happens every year. If you scroll back to Monday's posts, I actually tipped Belleville!!!

Also, Scott McCartney didn't have enough time to get the Bowen liftout on the tables. I'm sure you can get a copy from RDFL house.

It was your lift out, you could have done it for him, instead off hassling everyone that came in the door for a bet :D just as bad as somebody on a beach in bali selling postcards. :p

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 11:33
It was your lift out, you could have done it for him, instead off hassling everyone that came in the door for a bet :D just as bad as somebody on a beach in bali selling postcards. :p

I gave it to him three days before the count, so its not my responsibility :D

For those who are desperate to see it email my at news@freepress.com.au and I'll send you the PDF's of the four-pages.

Doona2
5 Sep 2007, 11:38
There is no way I had information on the Bowen Medal count. The only info I had was second hand off someone else who reckoned they knew, and that happens every year. If you scroll back to Monday's posts, I actually tipped Belleville!!!

Good on ya mate, thought they were being a tad harsh :thumbsu:

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 11:39
Good on ya mate, thought they were being a tad harsh :thumbsu:

Cheers buddy. I was actually sweating big time before the count because if any of my unlisted players had of caused an upset like last year, I was screwed! :(

joeblow2
5 Sep 2007, 12:10
In this blokes opinion,to mention the past in a coach of the (current) YEAR is not valid.No doubt a potential "threepeat" and taking back to back as a personal coach is a great achievement yes. But the critics will be absolutely silenced if dixon can take his boys to the big one,quite frankly i wouldnt have been suprised if the rockbank coach got the award for actually coaching the rams off the bottom of the ladder let alone being a more than competitive 'cellar dweller' team in season '07 or even Simon Choate, for a lad his age to be as competive as lancefield have been this year has also been a feat in its own.

To put it simply,I think the award could have went to quite a few canditates,but dixon was a worthy winner overall.Some were "stiff" ... but it isnt an understatement.

Chris Collins is the coach:thumbsu:

B.O.G
5 Sep 2007, 12:56
come on matty, get those votes up would you!!! or someone who has the power to do so, a lot of peple are wanting to know where they got votes from, which round/s.

after speaking to a heap of players the general feeling was that they felt that the bowen is gettinh to prictable, and not rewarding the "true" best players.

would there be any chance that the leauge can introduce a "coaches award".
where the coaches award 3 2 1 votes to the opposition player they think that had the most influenece. alot like the way the coaches do it in the TAC CUP. a mate of mine who was a star in his top age year told me that he would have rathered won the coaches award than the morrish (he didnt win either), he felt the coaches award was more true to how they played.

would anyone be interested in doing that? dose anyone think that would work???

we all know that the umpires job is hard enough as it is, and im sure that with making sure the game runs smooth, watching for free kicks, ect ect, that the upire wouldnt remember if a player kicked the first 2 goals and had 10 plus possises in the first quater to help set up the game for his team, but im sure that the coach of the oppossing team would know those facts?

Wing Nut
5 Sep 2007, 13:31
ive got it on good information that mr nicholls will be leaving us soon for different pastures. a job for cricket victoria, can you confrim pickles?

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 13:33
ive got it on good information that mr nicholls will be leaving us soon for different pastures. a job for cricket victoria, can you confrim pickles?

No I think I'll still be toiling away here for a while mate. How did you find out that information? :D

frogworth
5 Sep 2007, 13:42
Does anyone know what came of last nights tribunal hearing?

... in particular the Romsey v Diggers u/18s match.

Hoosy
5 Sep 2007, 14:49
does any1 know know how wheels went in the b&f at centrals ?

He was equal runners-up with Bullen and Rock Martin. Nankervis won the B&F and was well deserved, Wheels obviously had a great year and was unfortunate to miss games throughout the season.

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 15:01
all im gonna say is i knew that you knew who won, not gonna get too much into it but to to keep things a mystery either a person that you told, told me or maybe i did actually hear it from the horses mouth:eek:! you say you tipped belleville but you had bonnici at those short odds so know1 would take him, well if i was you i wouldnt have said who i knew was gonna win either:D anyways i know you will try and talk your way out of it because you made abit of cash by giving some ppl juicy odds and know1 would be happy about that, and they shouldnt be either!

If people genuinely thought that I knew the Bowen result then they are fools. Not only are you accusing me of some pretty damaging things, but also the league. The RDFL exec are not fools and there is no way the Bowen result would have been leaked. The top-three players were the best three this year. Perhaps some other players were stiff not to get as many votes as they did, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

footy mad 2
5 Sep 2007, 15:14
all im gonna say is i knew that you knew who won, not gonna get too much into it but to to keep things a mystery either a person that you told, told me or maybe i did actually hear it from the horses mouth:eek:! you say you tipped belleville but you had bonnici at those short odds so know1 would take him, well if i was you i wouldnt have said who i knew was gonna win either:D anyways i know you will try and talk your way out of it because you made abit of cash by giving some ppl juicy odds and know1 would be happy about that, and they shouldnt be either!

I hope you arent hiding behind an alias making those coments. Put your name next to them and show you have some credibility.
As for bonicci being so short, did you actually see the results. He was bog in over half the games. Of course he would be short. Just like bellville was.
It was only ever going to be between the two of them hence why he was able to offer some pretty good odds for the outsiders.
So next post you make acusations in, write your name at the bottom as matt has his at the top, so we all know who you are.

petespies
5 Sep 2007, 15:14
If people genuinely thought that I knew the Bowen result then they are fools. Not only are you accusing me of some pretty damaging things, but also the league. The RDFL exec are not fools and there is no way the Bowen result would have been leaked. The top-three players were the best three this year. Perhaps some other players were stiff not to get as many votes as they did, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

sorry for accusing you mr nicholls, but im not actually accusing- i am making a statement that it was leaked and i hope they can look at this and make it better for the future, for the credibility of this league alot of people that know (and there is a few on bf) will say nothing, even if you did get told the rumoured result (or rumour who won and how much they won it by) second hand, if it turned out true down to the exact vote then that is still pretty shameful on your account:thumbsd::thumbsd:

petespies
5 Sep 2007, 15:20
I hope you arent hiding behind an alias making those coments. Put your name next to them and show you have some credibility.
As for bonicci being so short, did you actually see the results. He was bog in over half the games. Of course he would be short. Just like bellville was.
It was only ever going to be between the two of them hence why he was able to offer some pretty good odds for the outsiders.
So next post you make acusations in, write your name at the bottom as matt has his at the top, so we all know who you are.

i dont wanna cause trouble and im not making your so called 'acusations', lets just leave this topic alone and stop denying that it has happened and hope that next year there are improvements made, that is all im after, and i thought ppl who had any bets on deserved to know, and if they dont care then it means nothing anyways

Harry Wilson
5 Sep 2007, 15:27
all im gonna say is i knew that you knew who won, not gonna get too much into it but to to keep things a mystery either a person that you told, told me or maybe i did actually hear it from the horses mouth:eek:! you say you tipped belleville but you had bonnici at those short odds so know1 would take him, well if i was you i wouldnt have said who i knew was gonna win either:D anyways i know you will try and talk your way out of it because you made abit of cash by giving some ppl juicy odds and know1 would be happy about that, and they shouldnt be either!

If your information is so solid Pete you should name where it came from. From where I'm sitting you're making some pretty harsh accusations that could be seen as "Assassination of Charactor". I know Pickles pretty well and I would back him that he wouldn't take bets on something he knew the outcome of. Given the fact that with those fragile wrists, he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, he wouldn't be putting him self in harms way for the sake of a few $$$. Not likely at all. :thumbsd:

petespies
5 Sep 2007, 16:31
If your information is so solid Pete you should name where it came from. From where I'm sitting you're making some pretty harsh accusations that could be seen as "Assassination of Charactor". I know Pickles pretty well and I would back him that he wouldn't take bets on something he knew the outcome of. Given the fact that with those fragile wrists, he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, he wouldn't be putting him self in harms way for the sake of a few $$$. Not likely at all. :thumbsd:

for sake of this assassination of character thing i will do a backflip coz as we know harry, matts heart is in the right place and i couldnt see him in a betting scandal either, but like woody said- there was a rumour of what the positioning of the results were and the amount of votes that were the differance, both before and after the last game, and when the rumour turns out to be 100% correct could it hardly be called a rumour, it would have to be a really really lucky guess or have come from a reliable source.. true????

matt_nicholls
5 Sep 2007, 16:47
for sake of this assassination of character thing i will do a backflip coz as we know harry, matts heart is in the right place and i couldnt see him in a betting scandal either, but like woody said- there was a rumour of what the positioning of the results were and the amount of votes that were the differance, both before and after the last game, and when the rumour turns out to be 100% correct could it hardly be called a rumour, it would have to be a really really lucky guess or have come from a reliable source.. true????

I understand what you're saying pete and I haven't taken offence to this. But I heard the same rumour you did about the votes but I never knew the result. Last year everyone thought Sims and Jose would fight it out, and no one gave Ruane a chance. There was even talk of leaked information. It turned out to be wrong. There will not be any betting next year, for fear that this may come up again. It was supposed to be bit of fun and there wasn't huge money at stake. I'll have to apply for my bookies license over summer without cricket on the agenda :D

petespies
5 Sep 2007, 17:01
I understand what you're saying pete and I haven't taken offence to this. But I heard the same rumour you did about the votes but I never knew the result. Last year everyone thought Sims and Jose would fight it out, and no one gave Ruane a chance. There was even talk of leaked information. It turned out to be wrong. There will not be any betting next year, for fear that this may come up again. It was supposed to be bit of fun and there wasn't huge money at stake. I'll have to apply for my bookies license over summer without cricket on the agenda :D

the rumour WAS the result so we could hardly call it a rumour because it was 100% on the money, i really hope it can be looked at for years to come, as it may not mean much to some but besides a premiership medal some would say that it is the next best thing not just for the player but also for a club

Blueboy16
5 Sep 2007, 17:13
OK dead and buried on the Bowen guys....... Thoughts on Saturday & Sunday?
Roo's to book GF berths in both Seniors & Reserves for me.

bromanbomber
5 Sep 2007, 17:23
OK dead and buried on the Bowen guys....... Thoughts on Saturday & Sunday?
Roo's to book GF berths in both Seniors & Reserves for me.
Dreaming in the Seniors, Riddell will tear them a new a**hole.:p

boom crash opera
5 Sep 2007, 17:23
does any1 know know how wheels went in the b&f at centrals ?
who cares! your goal devil

OMNIPOTENT_1
5 Sep 2007, 17:25
I think he means Sunday the 16th at Macedon !

Animosity
5 Sep 2007, 17:46
Chris Collins is the coach:thumbsu:

haha crap...for some reason i keep getting those 2 mixed up and any time ive actually mentioned collo in a wrap up ive sometimes called him choate :mad: ... we all know who i was talking about lads :D:thumbsu:

4thburra
5 Sep 2007, 18:26
tribuneral results.
anyone?

blues12
5 Sep 2007, 18:29
tribuneral results.
anyone?

That depends on whether IMS is screening all posts. :D

4thburra
5 Sep 2007, 18:30
haha. good point.
its not to big of a deal tho.
i just want to see who is missing finals. :s

Kings Army
5 Sep 2007, 19:51
Come on kings, are you not even willing to reserve your judgement until the end of the year? Do you really think a coach out coaching the other can be 100 point difference, i think players would have to make up for quite a large portion of that.
In alot of peoples eyes we will see the coach of the year in 3 weeks. Lets wait until then.
Kings why just criticise 1 out of 23 in the team of the year, Have a crack at the whole side yourself. Let us all see how wrong or right you may get it.

Coach of the year should be the premiership coach. Rowsell in his 2nd year has taken Riddell to the top after losing some gun players. Lee James was the premier forward last year. Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in the RDFL when people won't vote for a team that has had some great success.

Kings Army
5 Sep 2007, 20:12
They're you go son !


Thanks Bears Boy. The Bowen that I always shake my head at and I think Woody will get a laugh out of this was Mark Power's 2nd Bowen in 1996. He won with 15 votes after finishing 3rd behind Alamo and Segidis both from Melton. During the year Power was reported for kicking, spitting and tripping and on all three charges got off on a technicality.

frogworth
6 Sep 2007, 01:27
Something I noticed to come of this years league BnF's was that goalkicking wont get you votes.

Seniors - David Cornish (Kilmore) - 73 goals - 3 Votes (1 point in 3 different matches) - included one bag of 10, one of 8 and four matches in which he kicked 6

Reserves - Nathaniel John (Romsey) - 59 goals - 0 Votes - included one bag of 10 and one of 9

Under 18's - John Baker (Romsey) - 74 goals - 0 votes - included one bag of 11 and one of 9

Do goalkickers go unnoticed? Are they less important than the midfielders? Just wanting others opinions on why this may be ...

woody07
6 Sep 2007, 09:12
Thanks Bears Boy. The Bowen that I always shake my head at and I think Woody will get a laugh out of this was Mark Power's 2nd Bowen in 1996. He won with 15 votes after finishing 3rd behind Alamo and Segidis both from Melton. During the year Power was reported for kicking, spitting and tripping and on all three charges got off on a technicality.

Wasn't aware of that KA. Have to let him tell me the story over a beer some time! I'm sure the story would have got hell of lot better over the years. Good to see him play a role in their win on the weekend, how'd he go?

woody07
6 Sep 2007, 09:23
Something I noticed to come of this years league BnF's was that goalkicking wont get you votes.

Seniors - David Cornish (Kilmore) - 73 goals - 3 Votes (1 point in 3 different matches) - included one bag of 10, one of 8 and four matches in which he kicked 6

Reserves - Nathaniel John (Romsey) - 59 goals - 0 Votes - included one bag of 10 and one of 9

Under 18's - John Baker (Romsey) - 74 goals - 0 votes - included one bag of 11 and one of 9

Do goalkickers go unnoticed? Are they less important than the midfielders? Just wanting others opinions on why this may be ...

Always the way-midfielders with reps (know the umpires),or have distinctive physical features i.e interesting haircuts or carry the ball a little more than others get up in the votes. The top two most years are pretty spot on as it was this year, after that you can throw a blanket over the rest. Umpires also around the onballers a lot. Umpires dont always have a good understanding of which backman has a game winning performance or Forwards who work hard at some of the important but less recognised facets of th game and kick their 3-4 goals. Occurs in the AFL so of course it will occur in our league! Cornish unlucky not to get a few more votes-does he bag the umpires?

Harry Wilson
6 Sep 2007, 10:35
Something I noticed to come of this years league BnF's was that goalkicking wont get you votes.

Seniors - David Cornish (Kilmore) - 73 goals - 3 Votes (1 point in 3 different matches) - included one bag of 10, one of 8 and four matches in which he kicked 6

Reserves - Nathaniel John (Romsey) - 59 goals - 0 Votes - included one bag of 10 and one of 9

Under 18's - John Baker (Romsey) - 74 goals - 0 votes - included one bag of 11 and one of 9

Do goalkickers go unnoticed? Are they less important than the midfielders? Just wanting others opinions on why this may be ...

I thought it a bit strange also that Nathaniel John didn't poll a vote. he couldn't have won it any way as he was reported and suspended. I also thought John Baker would have polled a few. Very stiff. The forwards and backs don't get enough recognition in my opinion.

As far as the betting scandal is concerned I'm happy to lay it to rest also. Lets get on to the more important things this weekend, who will go into the granny and who will go to the prelim?

Harry Wilson
6 Sep 2007, 11:06
Can anybody give me more info as to the alleged "outburst" of Brian Taylor on Monday night? I heard that he gave the Romsey table a spray for being noisey while he was talking. It has also been alleged that he is pulling his son out of the club because he doesn't want him to play with "Romsey Scumbags".

If this is true, I'm pretty dissapointed that it was said publicly. Romsey are a great club and are made up of a majority of great people. Every club has a few people that can get carried away at times. Everyone can remember when they were 18 and they could all remember going over the top at some stage. Let's not get too concerned about the behaviour of a couple of young blokes that went too hard too early. We've all been there and I'd be very surprised if BT himself could honestly say he's never been there or done that:thumbsd:

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 11:08
Can anybody give me more info as to the alleged "outburst" of Brian Taylor on Monday night? I heard that he gave the Romsey table a spray for being noisey while he was talking. It has also been alleged that he is pulling his son out of the club because he doesn't want him to play with "Romsey Scumbags".

If this is true, I'm pretty dissapointed that it was said publicly. Romsey are a great club and are made up of a majority of great people. Every club has a few people that can get carried away at times. Everyone can remember when they were 18 and they could all remember going over the top at some stage. Let's not get too concerned about the behaviour of a couple of young blokes that went too hard too early. We've all been there and I'd be very surprised if BT himself could honestly say he's never been there or done that:thumbsd:

I didn't hear what you have just written Harry.

Harry Wilson
6 Sep 2007, 11:27
I didn't hear what you have just written Harry.

Perhaps it was said in a comedic fashion and has been taken out of context by people who were under the influence. I guess you shouldn't pay too much credence to stories told by people who've been on the turps. I know BT's son and he's a great kid, I'm sure he'd be pretty annoyed if his old man did say that. Anyway, I'll move on.

Anyone got any ins and outs for this weeks finals?

blues12
6 Sep 2007, 11:32
Can anybody give me more info as to the alleged "outburst" of Brian Taylor on Monday night? I heard that he gave the Romsey table a spray for being noisey while he was talking. It has also been alleged that he is pulling his son out of the club because he doesn't want him to play with "Romsey Scumbags".

If this is true, I'm pretty dissapointed that it was said publicly. Romsey are a great club and are made up of a majority of great people. Every club has a few people that can get carried away at times. Everyone can remember when they were 18 and they could all remember going over the top at some stage. Let's not get too concerned about the behaviour of a couple of young blokes that went too hard too early. We've all been there and I'd be very surprised if BT himself could honestly say he's never been there or done that:thumbsd:

As for the spray, alot in the room would have thought it could have been better. The lads were very noisey and showed little repect for the talker, he pointed them out, asked them to tone it down and fair enough, sometimes when you try and put a message out to everybody, not everybody listens, point out a couple of individuals or a particular group they hear it. They did sort of quieten down a little.
Yes they are young and got into it early.
:thumbsu: BT was very professional in the way he did it. I thought he was brilliant. :thumbsu:

Aker Magic
6 Sep 2007, 11:36
Always the way-midfielders with reps (know the umpires),or have distinctive physical features i.e interesting haircuts or carry the ball a little more than others get up in the votes. The top two most years are pretty spot on as it was this year, after that you can throw a blanket over the rest. Umpires also around the onballers a lot. Umpires dont always have a good understanding of which backman has a game winning performance or Forwards who work hard at some of the important but less recognised facets of th game and kick their 3-4 goals. Occurs in the AFL so of course it will occur in our league! Cornish unlucky not to get a few more votes-does he bag the umpires?

How quickly we forget....didn't a full forward win the Bowen two years ago? Granted, he did kick a ton of goals (literally) but in the same breath, it was running backmen and midfielders that supplied him.

Roco
6 Sep 2007, 11:42
Can anybody give me more info as to the alleged "outburst" of Brian Taylor on Monday night? I heard that he gave the Romsey table a spray for being noisey while he was talking. It has also been alleged that he is pulling his son out of the club because he doesn't want him to play with "Romsey Scumbags".

If this is true, I'm pretty dissapointed that it was said publicly. Romsey are a great club and are made up of a majority of great people. Every club has a few people that can get carried away at times. Everyone can remember when they were 18 and they could all remember going over the top at some stage. Let's not get too concerned about the behaviour of a couple of young blokes that went too hard too early. We've all been there and I'd be very surprised if BT himself could honestly say he's never been there or done that:thumbsd:

Nothing in it Harry, BT pretty much asked them to pull their heads in while people were up on stage talking which to their credit they did.
As for the other comment didn't hear anything and didn't hear anyone else comment on the night.

I think it was a good night, everyone was pretty well behaved and a well deserved win by Bonnicci.

Harry Wilson
6 Sep 2007, 14:30
Nothing in it Harry, BT pretty much asked them to pull their heads in while people were up on stage talking which to their credit they did.
As for the other comment didn't hear anything and didn't hear anyone else comment on the night.

I think it was a good night, everyone was pretty well behaved and a well deserved win by Bonnicci.

Fair enough then. I've met BT a few times when he has come down to Romsey's club rooms and he's great bloke, that's why I would've been dissapointed had he actually made those comments.

Anyone got any ins or outs? Are people holding their cards close to their chests this late in the year?;) Any news on the tribunal results?

Doona2
6 Sep 2007, 14:50
I know you blokes have decided to let the whole inside info/betting thing slide but it was quite slanderous on the young fella to even suggest that initially.

Petespace seemed fairly adament in his statements and then did a massive backflip which should be commended - but what about the rep of young Pickles that may have been tainted the past few days by all this?

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 15:10
I know you blokes have decided to let the whole inside info/betting thing slide but it was quite slanderous on the young fella to even suggest that initially.

Petespace seemed fairly adament in his statements and then did a massive backflip which should be commended - but what about the rep of young Pickles that may have been tainted the past few days by all this?

Thanks for your support Doona but I just took it in my stride. I know I wasn't guilty of the allegations and hopefully people who know me would believe that too. I happily decided to post under my name because I was prepared to back up what I have to say. I know who petespies is and he is a very good bloke, and believe it or not he actually had a wager through my agency. I've been in the journalism caper for long enough now to know that criticism like that can only be taken as water off a duck's back.

footy mad 2
6 Sep 2007, 15:33
Thanks for your support Doona but I just took it in my stride. I know I wasn't guilty of the allegations and hopefully people who know me would believe that too. I happily decided to post under my name because I was prepared to back up what I have to say. I know who petespies is and he is a very good bloke, and believe it or not he actually had a wager through my agency. I've been in the journalism caper for long enough now to know that criticism like that can only be taken as water off a duck's back.

Sonds like a guilty man talking to me!!!!!
Now matt you must now know some tribunal results.
Are the rest of us unconnected people allowed to know ar has IMS gone to the supreme court and got an injunction, just like they did aganst channel seven.:D
by the way I was joking at the start...

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 15:44
Sonds like a guilty man talking to me!!!!!
Now matt you must now know some tribunal results.
Are the rest of us unconnected people allowed to know ar has IMS gone to the supreme court and got an injunction, just like they did aganst channel seven.:D
by the way I was joking at the start...

Cheers mate, no idea about the tribunal though. Up to my ears in work today :thumbsu:

boom crash opera
6 Sep 2007, 15:47
ozdevil 1978 is gay who is he? he is weak

Doona2
6 Sep 2007, 16:20
Thanks for your support Doona but I just took it in my stride. I know I wasn't guilty of the allegations and hopefully people who know me would believe that too. I happily decided to post under my name because I was prepared to back up what I have to say. I know who petespies is and he is a very good bloke, and believe it or not he actually had a wager through my agency. I've been in the journalism caper for long enough now to know that criticism like that can only be taken as water off a duck's back.

Oh :eek: if you know petespies then its fair to suggest he's talking thru his wallet and wasn't serious in the allegations then? Geez he nearly got you in a fair bit of strife

BrownDog2
6 Sep 2007, 16:22
I hear that all Romsey players got off at the Tribunal, including players who were Red Carded.

No wonder Halfullonfence hasn't been on this week, he is due to play Romsey on Sunday and is no doubt filthy - and rightly so.
Don't know what happened with one of his players at the Tribunal but he was reported by Scott McCartney, good luck getting off that.

Any updates Beats?

Halffullonfence
6 Sep 2007, 17:22
Five

Dennisn
6 Sep 2007, 17:30
Thanks for your support Doona but I just took it in my stride. I know I wasn't guilty of the allegations and hopefully people who know me would believe that too. I happily decided to post under my name because I was prepared to back up what I have to say. I know who petespies is and he is a very good bloke, and believe it or not he actually had a wager through my agency. I've been in the journalism caper for long enough now to know that criticism like that can only be taken as water off a duck's back.
The 20 to 1 will test your bank balance in the next couple of weeks,no leaks there hopefully it becomes fact and Rocky and i can buy you a few drinks.

stubby holder
6 Sep 2007, 17:31
I hear that all Romsey players got off at the Tribunal, including players who were Red Carded.

No wonder Halfullonfence hasn't been on this week, he is due to play Romsey on Sunday and is no doubt filthy - and rightly so.
Don't know what happened with one of his players at the Tribunal but he was reported by Scott McCartney, good luck getting off that.

Any updates Beats?

Does Scott McCartney think he is Ian Collins? Leave the reports up to the umpires

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 17:33
Does Scott McCartney think he is Ian Collins? Leave the reports up to the umpires

When a player strikes another player I think if a league official saw he could make a report. Especially the general manager. I was standing next to him at the time.

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 17:34
The 20 to 1 will test your bank balance in the next couple of weeks,no leaks there hopefully it becomes fact and Rocky and i can buy you a few drinks.

I might have to offer some Riddell blokes an extra keg for their after-game celebrations as incentive :p

petespies
6 Sep 2007, 17:48
Oh :eek: if you know petespies then its fair to suggest he's talking thru his wallet and wasn't serious in the allegations then? Geez he nearly got you in a fair bit of strife

never pulled my wallet out matt, anyways done and dusted matter!
the old saying is that your only as good as your fringe players, who of the remaining four sides do people think to have the best all round seniors list, down to the 22nd person picked, consistency throughout the four quarters can sometimes steal a finals game......

matt_nicholls
6 Sep 2007, 18:39
never pulled my wallet out matt, anyways done and dusted matter!
the old saying is that your only as good as your fringe players, who of the remaining four sides do people think to have the best all round seniors list, down to the 22nd person picked, consistency throughout the four quarters can sometimes steal a finals game......

Woodend-Hesket has the best depth for mine. While their best 22 is not as good as Riddell's, they have some excellent players in the reserves who are up to senior standard.

BrownDog2
7 Sep 2007, 10:12
Five

ouch.

Romey FC must have had Ian Findlay defending their players.

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 10:40
Are the Woodend-Hesket seniors falling apart at the crunch time of the season?

Apparently some big names got the chop from the ones last night.

I heard that both Rick Dowling and Wazza Else were to be axed ... unbelievable! I think four others might have been nudged out too. Will confirm later.

With Matt Stacey out with a hammy, I think they were even going to put Darko in the side, despite not being able to train freely on Tuesday night.

Giddings will look like a genius if the blokes coming in can step up and do the job, but alternatively will look like a goose if they don't bring anything to the table.

Dowling kicked seven goals from three quarters just a few weeks ago, albiet against Rockbank, and has been very handy around the big sticks in the four games I seen him play this year. Big Wazza is a thumping kick and even if his defensive skills have been down slightly this year, should be kept in the side purely for his excellent kickouts.

With Stacey out, Sipthorp will probably have to take some rucking duties which will ultimately see Connellan dominate again and stop Sippy running riot around the ground.

Harry Wilson
7 Sep 2007, 10:43
Are the Woodend-Hesket seniors falling apart at the crunch time of the season?

Apparently some big names got the chop from the ones last night.

I heard that both Rick Dowling and Wazza Else were to be axed ... unbelievable! I think four others might have been nudged out too. Will confirm later.

With Matt Stacey out with a hammy, I think they were even going to put Darko in the side, despite not being able to train freely on Tuesday night.

Giddings will look like a genius if the blokes coming in can step up and do the job, but alternatively will look like a goose if they don't bring anything to the table.

Dowling kicked seven goals from three quarters just a few weeks ago, albiet against Rockbank, and has been very handy around the big sticks in the four games I seen him play this year. Big Wazza is a thumping kick and even if his defensive skills have been down slightly this year, should be kept in the side purely for his excellent kickouts.

With Stacey out, Sipthorp will probably have to take some rucking duties which will ultimately see Connellan dominate again and stop Sippy running riot around the ground.

We'll wait and see on Sunday, I couldn't see that happening. Dowling may not want to play against Romsey as both times he has been extremely well held.:D

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 10:52
We'll wait and see on Sunday, I couldn't see that happening. Dowling may not want to play against Romsey as both times he has been extremely well held.:D

I know Dowling well enough to know that he would have been extremely hungry to give Jimmy a lesson. And I guarantee you, Dowling and Stacey won't be playing. My insider tells me Else was to be dropped, but haven't heard from him/her this morning. I couldn't see them axing their best defender in an elimination final.

B.O.G
7 Sep 2007, 11:19
Woodend-Hesket has the best depth for mine. While their best 22 is not as good as Riddell's, they have some excellent players in the reserves who are up to senior standard.

like who matty???

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 11:26
like who matty???

Paul Vella, Brent Olivieri, Mark Williams, Liam O'Meara, Marcus Stevens, Justin Rodda etc.

woody07
7 Sep 2007, 11:49
Are the Woodend-Hesket seniors falling apart at the crunch time of the season?

Apparently some big names got the chop from the ones last night.

I heard that both Rick Dowling and Wazza Else were to be axed ... unbelievable! I think four others might have been nudged out too. Will confirm later.

With Matt Stacey out with a hammy, I think they were even going to put Darko in the side, despite not being able to train freely on Tuesday night.

Giddings will look like a genius if the blokes coming in can step up and do the job, but alternatively will look like a goose if they don't bring anything to the table.

Dowling kicked seven goals from three quarters just a few weeks ago, albiet against Rockbank, and has been very handy around the big sticks in the four games I seen him play this year. Big Wazza is a thumping kick and even if his defensive skills have been down slightly this year, should be kept in the side purely for his excellent kickouts.


Must have a good insider Matt (which is a bit disappointing from a hawks perspective).Got a few things spot on mate! But please check your source for a piece of unreliable info they've passed onto you i.e Wazza being dropped-never mentioned, was never going to happen and is completely wrong (wont make the guy feel great if he reads rubbish like especially when its far from the truth)! Maybe your informer has seen that he's been named on the bench (purely for match-up reasons) and got a little carried away. The insider musn't be a true Hawker anyway as i'm sure they would have waited until just before the game to let a few things out of the bag and not Thursday night!!!!!! While you’re on fire mate any chance chasing down some ins and outs for other teams-namely Romsey!

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 11:53
Must have a good insider Matt (which is a bit disappointing from a hawks perspective).Got a few things spot on mate! But please check your source for a piece of unreliable info they've passed onto you i.e Wazza being dropped-never mentioned, was never going to happen and is completely wrong (wont make the guy feel great if he reads rubbish like especially when its far from the truth)! Maybe your informer has seen that he's been named on the bench (purely for match-up reasons) and got a little carried away. The insider musn't be a true Hawker anyway as i'm sure they would have waited until just before the game to let a few things out of the bag and not Thursday night!!!!!! While you’re on fire mate any chance chasing down some ins and outs for other teams-namely Romsey!

Well I'm glad I was reasonably close to the mark. As for Romsey, I can't see too many changes made from last week's game. Matt McLellan had a pretty sore left shoulder after the Diggers Rest match and there was suspicion on whether he would get up, but I believe he is okay to go. Our own Harry Wilson had a lot of ice on his ankle but should be good to go. Burlak had issues with his hip but is right.

B.O.G
7 Sep 2007, 12:09
Something I noticed to come of this years league BnF's was that goalkicking wont get you votes.

Seniors - David Cornish (Kilmore) - 73 goals - 3 Votes (1 point in 3 different matches) - included one bag of 10, one of 8 and four matches in which he kicked 6

Reserves - Nathaniel John (Romsey) - 59 goals - 0 Votes - included one bag of 10 and one of 9

Under 18's - John Baker (Romsey) - 74 goals - 0 votes - included one bag of 11 and one of 9

Do goalkickers go unnoticed? Are they less important than the midfielders? Just wanting others opinions on why this may be ...


i think they do go unnoticed, had a look at the last game of the year between rid and the roos, mick allen kicked 8 and didnt poll one vote, was clearly best a flield and could get a single vote.

had a look at another game, in the 2's hewwit from WH kicked 7 and leggett from WH kicked 5 or 6 and neither got a vote in game where they won by 25 plus goals.

would people be interested in a coaches award???

woody07
7 Sep 2007, 12:11
Well I'm glad I was reasonably close to the mark. As for Romsey, I can't see too many changes made from last week's game. Matt McLellan had a pretty sore left shoulder after the Diggers Rest match and there was suspicion on whether he would get up, but I believe he is okay to go. Our own Harry Wilson had a lot of ice on his ankle but should be good to go. Burlak had issues with his hip but is right.

Now that's a bit more of a balanced approach Matt! Seeing you've always got along with the Woodend boys, i hate to think you're giving other teams an unfair advantage with inside gossip while we get nothing back in return. Be handy if the insider shut his/her mouth for a little while and let us get on with the big task of playing an inform Romsey team! Any chance you'd leak the source or a least give us a cryptic clue (i know you journos love that) to who this proud and loyal Hawk would be?

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 12:24
Now that's a bit more of a balanced approach Matt! Seeing you've always got along with the Woodend boys, i hate to think you're giving other teams an unfair advantage with inside gossip while we get nothing back in return. Be handy if the insider shut his/her mouth for a little while and let us get on with the big task of playing an inform Romsey team! Any chance you'd leak the source or a least give us a cryptic clue (i know you journos love that) to who this proud and loyal Hawk would be?

The only clue I'll give is that they are not a player.

Harry Wilson
7 Sep 2007, 13:02
Harry's Happenings - The Finals Edition

Saturday 8th September - Romsey Park

Sunbury Kangaroos v Riddell

This is going to be a MASSIVE game. The Roos are in red hot form and are looking for their first entry into the BIG DANCE. The Roos had a huge opening half to last weeks clash against the Hawks showing that they have the fire power early to match the league's big boys Riddell. It was an 8 goal 1 point to 1 goal 1 point 3rd quarter though that saw the Hawks back in front at the last change. Did the Hawks outplay the Roos or did the Roos switch off mentally thinking the game was going to win itself after half time? Either way the Roos have showed the opposition that they have a tendancy to drop off the pace for a stage of tha game. If this is the case any side who plays them will know that they have to keep up with them and weather the storm and wait for the opportunity to arise when the game can be stolen back. Personally, I don't think this is the case. I think the Roos played well while their opponents played only a half of the game. This could spell trouble for the Roos.

The mid-field has been boosted the last couple of weeks with the inlcusion of Jamie Cuffe. He has lightened the load of Steve James in the middle and is also very dangerous up forward where he will out mark any defender. Bonnici has obviously now been recognised as the premier onballer inthe league and will once again be relied on heavily to win the ball from the stoppages. Mix in Helmers, McInernies and Niki, the Roos look to have all the cattle required to receive their entry ticket to the DANCE FLOOR.

What more can be said about Riddell? They are the minor premiers, losing only one game in the home and away season. The likes of Petran and Allen up forward have create, not headaches, but migranes for defenders and have consistantly taken apart the leagues premier defenders. Fed with "lace out" ball from their slick midfield, the Riddell forwards need only mark the ball, casually go back and slot the thing from, from the majority of the time, right in front. A nice job if you can get it!! This week will prove a huge battle in the middle with Mick Burnett facing a huge task in trying to outplay both Cuffe and James. In my opinion it won't really matter who wins the ruck, as Riddell's premier mid-fielder, Belleville will rove to either side's ruckman and do it well. Teaming up with Blade, Coles, McDonald, Belleville will have a lot of support around the stoppages. He won't tag anyone, he doesn't need to. Quite often he will run to where the ball will go next and genuinely beat his opponent for the ball. The Riddell defenders are also exceptional at what they do. Led by the captain Jason Allen, their run off half back is second to none in this league. They run, carry and deliver the ballup the field with precision. Not to mention the ever crafty Wadden and Besanko. These guys alone can turn the game on a 20 cent piece in the matter of 2 minutes.

Don't be surprised to see an upset here, if Riddell have taken their break a little too lightly and the Roos fire up again, we could be in for a cracking nail biting affair. This game will be played on the best ground in the league bar none. I'm not talking about facilities, purely the surface. The weather looks like it will be sunny and 20 degrees. No excuses out there tomorrow. Should be ENORMOUS. Harry's Tip: Riddell by 16 points.

Sunday 9th September - JJ Clancy Reserve - Kilmore

Woodend Hesket v Romsey

With a surprise defeat last week at the hands of the Roos the Hawks will be out to spill bood this week. Knowing that thay have made their job very difficult, they now have to get to the BIG DANCE via an alternate route, a slight detour through Romsey. Rather than the smooth trip they thought they would face the road has become a little more bumpy. With a few rumours floating around that the Hawks will be without Stacey and Dowling, many may think that the Hawks could be in trouble. The last time these two sides met, in round 18, the Hawks got over the line by 39 points but only after leading the match at 3/4 time by 2 points. Stacey was convincingly beaten in the ruck and Dowling was held to 1 goal. So, given that those two players didn't have much influence on the game and the Hawks still won the game convincingly, what should be different if these two don't end up lining up on Sunday? Well, for starters Connellan will be rucking against the Hawks second best ruckman, the Redback defenders will now be playing on second or third best forwards. Which could see the a little more freedom for the Redbacks across the ground. The Hawks rebounded out of defence very well with "Ninga" playing well along with captain Adam Johnstone. Sipthorpe will always be troubling for any side, unless he is forced to share some of the ruck work. This is something I can't see happening. With the other rumor that Darko may return, all he would need to do is be some sort of contest in the ruck and let Podbury and Sipthorpe feed off either ruckman.

The Redbacks had a big win last week. Whilst it was never a given, the Redbacks led by 4 points at half time, only to put the foot down in the 3rd quarter to kick 3 goals 4 points to 1 point and in the last quarter kicked a further 5 goals 3 points to Diggers' 1 goal. Leading the way was the captain Brydan Morgan, who lifts for finals football and is rarely beaten at this point of the season. Ben John lifted also in the 3rd quarter showing the run and carry needed to win big games. This game will be a big encounter, with the Haws knowing that Romsey can match them all around the ground. It will be the endeavour and the steel nerve that will decide the winner of this game. Most will be tipping the Hawks, comfortably, and why not, they finished higher, smashed the Redbacks twice during the home and away season. Finals is different. I'm a little biased. Harry's Tip: Romsey by 4 points.

Good luck to the U18's when they tackle Macedon this week. Let's hope there is no rubbish like last week. Halffull, best of luck to your boys also mate:thumbsu: Good luck to the girls in the netball, all grades and teams.

Good luck to all players pulling them on this week. God I Love Finals:thumbsu::thumbsu:

Harry.

Kings Army
7 Sep 2007, 13:06
Wasn't aware of that KA. Have to let him tell me the story over a beer some time! I'm sure the story would have got hell of lot better over the years. Good to see him play a role in their win on the weekend, how'd he go?


He was good. Still has a massive presence on the field and makes a lot of the opposition very uncomfotable with his verbal abuse. Like Glen McGrath loves to find a bunny early. Thought you might be heading to Warnenbool for Sandle's bucks - the red roughy is struggling for numbers!

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 13:17
Good write up Harry.

My tips: Romsey by 10 points and Riddell by 35 points.

joeblow2
7 Sep 2007, 15:50
Reports I have heard from the last time Riddell and Sunbury Kangas met, J Belleville was very well held by James House. Can the boy pull this off again? He will need to for the Roos to cause an upset. Can't go past Riddell for mine, but looking forward to a good contest.

Woodend going in at less than full strength against and in form and experience finals campaigner in Romsey. This is where I can see an upset. Season form suggests Woodend will win, but I can see Romsey getting up in another great game.

Good luck to everyone this week, and I just hope all the headlines are about football on Monday!

discoduck
7 Sep 2007, 16:49
i'm going for riddell to beat kangaroos. if kangaroos win the premiership, mongrel may well declare helmers as the best player to ever take the field of play - we can't have that.

hawks to beat romsey, if only so one hawks team wins this week. :mad:

carn the hawks (as in hawthorn)

matt_nicholls
7 Sep 2007, 16:57
i'm going for riddell to beat kangaroos. if kangaroos win the premiership, mongrel may well declare helmers as the best player to ever take the field of play - we can't have that.

hawks to beat romsey, if only so one hawks team wins this week. :mad:

carn the hawks (as in hawthorn)

Woodend-Hesket's reserves and thirds should romp it in.

discoduck
7 Sep 2007, 17:02
Woodend-Hesket's reserves and thirds should romp it in.

ah, the mighty hawks are back.

Mongrel
7 Sep 2007, 17:05
i'm going for riddell to beat kangaroos. if kangaroos win the premiership, mongrel may well declare helmers as the best player to ever take the field of play - we can't have that.

hawks to beat romsey, if only so one hawks team wins this week. :mad:

carn the hawks (as in hawthorn)

you think your tough enough to be starting these games disco?if you had actually met me you would know yhat im passionate about footy and i speak very highly of all quality players,and yes about myself too.but u seem 2 want to start something here,so im up 4 it.just come and introduce yourself some time

discoduck
7 Sep 2007, 17:36
you think your tough enough to be starting these games disco?if you had actually met me you would know yhat im passionate about footy and i speak very highly of all quality players,and yes about myself too.but u seem 2 want to start something here,so im up 4 it.just come and introduce yourself some time

it's nothing to do with toughness, mongrel. if you wish to chat to me about things over a beer sometime, i'm more than happy to meet you. if you think i want to head out the back to sort it out that way, you've got the wrong man.

for the record - much of what i say is tough in cheek. i've never once said you can't play, or aren't passionate about your footy. i was just bemused at your willingness to put your own name forward for accolades, be they deserved or not.

Mongrel
7 Sep 2007, 17:46
it's nothing to do with toughness, mongrel. if you wish to chat to me about things over a beer sometime, i'm more than happy to meet you. if you think i want to head out the back to sort it out that way, you've got the wrong man.

for the record - much of what i say is tough in cheek. i've never once said you can't play, or aren't passionate about your footy. i was just bemused at your willingness to put your own name forward for accolades, be they deserved or not.

i merely mentioned the players from macedon that would be candidates for that team.if u look at the previous posts you will find i was already nominated.thats the only reason my name came up amongst the other macedon players.i didnt bother responding to your post at the time because i knew you had me totally wrong.but u continued it on b4 so i decided to respond.a beer sounds like a great idea tho:D