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Will affect a club, and three divisions.
I heard exactly what Bob had heard.
please reveal!
Benny MOF
12 Apr 2007, 15:10
Big news and 3 grades affected = club being investigated for $$$ payments
My tip: Uni Blacks or Old Camberwell
Falcons07
12 Apr 2007, 15:16
Big news and 3 grades affected = club being investigated for $$$ payments
My tip: Uni Blacks or Old Camberwell
How would that effect 3 divisions, I am leaning towards D1-D4 being called off!
smudger57
12 Apr 2007, 15:27
How would that effect 3 divisions, I am leaning towards D1-D4 being called off!
thats 4 divisions falcon!
krusher
12 Apr 2007, 15:37
Will affect a club, and three divisions.
I heard exactly what Bob had heard.
In what way will it affect 3 divisions ? More info please ?
Falcons07
12 Apr 2007, 15:37
thats 4 divisions falcon!
Yeah sorry!
Well is anyone going to let us know the news or even when the VAFA will release it.
Been a pretty disrupted preseason, hard to know what it will be.
Benny MOF
12 Apr 2007, 15:38
How would that effect 3 divisions, I am leaning towards D1-D4 being called off!
The offending club relegated 2 divisions (say B to D1) meaning one club is promoted from D1 to C and one from C to B.
Falcons07
12 Apr 2007, 15:38
The offending club relegated 2 divisions (say B to D1) meaning one club is promoted from D1 to C and one from C to B.
Is that the penalty for clubs breaching player payments?
oldtimer
12 Apr 2007, 15:43
Is that the penalty for clubs breaching player payments?
The last penalty to my knowledge was St Bernards in 89' or 90". They were found to try and Poach a player with incentives and were automatically suspended for the year thus immediaitely relegating them for the following year. I'm pretty sure the player was Terry Young (ex Fawkner)
krusher
12 Apr 2007, 15:43
Will affect a club, and three divisions.
I heard exactly what Bob had heard.
which club and which divisions ?
Champ or Chump
12 Apr 2007, 15:56
The offending club relegated 2 divisions (say B to D1) meaning one club is promoted from D1 to C and one from C to B.
I am sure the clubs who find themselves playing against a club that should be 2 grades higher would be wrapt ?
Dee Snider
12 Apr 2007, 15:58
The last penalty to my knowledge was St Bernards in 89' or 90". They were found to try and Poach a player with incentives and were automatically suspended for the year thus immediaitely relegating them for the following year. I'm pretty sure the player was Terry Young (ex Fawkner)
Just hearing that name makes some of us shudder OldTimer!
A frightening individual.
Champ or Chump
12 Apr 2007, 16:01
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Just hearing that name makes some of us shudder OldTimer!
A frightening individual.
Played against him when he was at Coburg (VFA) .......surprising amount of hamstrings poped that week at our training !!!
oldtimer
12 Apr 2007, 16:02
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Just hearing that name makes some of us shudder OldTimer!
A frightening individual.
How great it was to play at Mutton Res and watch the ferrals come out at half time from the bowling club with a gut load of fluid and cheer Terry on.
The last penalty to my knowledge was St Bernards in 89' or 90". They were found to try and Poach a player with incentives and were automatically suspended for the year thus immediaitely relegating them for the following year. I'm pretty sure the player was Terry Young (ex Fawkner)
Old Melburnians - 2000(?) - Andrew Topakas - Old Brighton - investigation - failure to disclose Oakleigh VFA payments - points stripped - MHSOB survived and OMs went to B grade
DeeKayLillee
12 Apr 2007, 16:04
Old Melburnians - 2000(?) - Andrew Topakas - Old Brighton - investigation - failure to disclose Oakleigh VFA payments - points stripped - MHSOB survived and OMs went to B grade
marcellin survived and NOT MHSOB- if my memory is correct......... and then went on and won the premiership in 2001
Old Melburnians - 2000(?) - Andrew Topakas - Old Brighton - investigation - failure to disclose Oakleigh VFA payments - points stripped - MHSOB survived and OMs went to B grade
Well i am tipping that a team that was promoted has been found guilty of player payments, therefore will be relegated instead- which means eg from B to D1- therefore 3rd in C to B(if they agree) and 3rd in D1 to C-(this is a far better option thatn holding onto a relegated club- who will struggle as they have already lost players
but am guessing this is yet another false tip- at least someone could come up with mroe info- at least the grades involved..
Sausage roll
12 Apr 2007, 16:11
Well i am tipping that a team that was promoted has been found guilty of player payments, therefore will be relegated instead- which means eg from B to D1- therefore 3rd in C to B(if they agree) and 3rd in D1 to C-(this is a far better option thatn holding onto a relegated club- who will struggle as they have already lost players
but am guessing this is yet another false tip- at least someone could come up with mroe info- at least the grades involved..
As already stated, the offending club is in D1.
Assuming they have committed the offence you are all accusing them of!!
As already stated, the offending club is in D1.
Assuming they have committed the offence you are all accusing them of!!
So if this is not the offence Sausage, how could it affect three grades???
Benny MOF
12 Apr 2007, 17:23
As already stated, the offending club is in D1.
Assuming they have committed the offence you are all accusing them of!!
Old Carey have been paying Al Parton for years. He even told me this, words from his own drunken mouth. Could it be them....?
Old Carey have been paying Al Parton for years. He even told me this, words from his own drunken mouth. Could it be them....?
Clearly not, clown, as we're not in D1 any more, and why would Dolly bother talking to a goose like you that has been thrown out of more clubs than BrianSpeaking?
BrianSpeaking
13 Apr 2007, 00:11
Clearly not, clown, as we're not in D1 any more, and why would Dolly bother talking to a goose like you that has been thrown out of more clubs than BrianSpeaking?
Are we talking night clubs, football clubs or perhaps the gay clubs you frequent in Commercial Road?
I would suggest there would only be one club in D Section, actually the whole of the VAFA who are a serial 'match payment' club. In fact, a former VAFA State rep allegedly recently knocked back a nice financial offer to play with this dirty club and took his wares up to the Murray.
Hopefully, the VAFA finally has the balls to do something about these Nazis. Hopefully, one or Two of them will be singing the Blues.
LennyLeonard
13 Apr 2007, 07:49
Are we talking night clubs, football clubs or perhaps the gay clubs you frequent in Commercial Road?
I would suggest there would only be one club in D Section, actually the whole of the VAFA who are a serial 'match payment' club. In fact, a former VAFA State rep allegedly recently knocked back a nice financial offer to play with this dirty club and took his wares up to the Murray.
Hopefully, the VAFA finally has the balls to do something about these Nazis. Hopefully, one or Two of them will be singing the Blues.
Same guy who was on "Shopping for Love" ?
Conduct Unbecoming
13 Apr 2007, 08:09
Why would D1 clubs be "paying people for years"?
Suggestions of Carey and Pahran paying people are amusing at best. Carey are an easy target because they are starting to have some success. Likewise Prahran, as they have a relationship with a venue. If both were paying players, neither would have been playing in D1 in 2006.
Having said that, if in the next week or so the truth comes out suggesting otherwise, I am happy to be called a fool (again).:cool:
oldtimer
13 Apr 2007, 08:29
Why would D1 clubs be "paying people for years"?
Suggestions of Carey and Pahran paying people are amusing at best. Carey are an easy target because they are starting to have some success. Likewise Prahran, as they have a relationship with a venue. If both were paying players, neither would have been playing in D1 in 2006.
Having said that, if in the next week or so the truth comes out suggesting otherwise, I am happy to be called a fool (again).:cool:
Conduct, all people involved with one particular Diamond Valley Club know for a fact that a player from that club is getting paid. They tried to get him back this year only to be told that the offer couldn't compete with where he was at. This player also played state footy last year!
Also, shopping for love player was tempted by an offer to be playing assistant coach this year. FACT!!! He decided to stay with the club where he won a premiership last year.
If it verified by the vafa then the team should be kicked out and not dropped down the divisions thus affecting teams in lower grades!!
Conduct Unbecoming
13 Apr 2007, 09:21
Conduct, all people involved with one particular Diamond Valley Club know for a fact that a player from that club is getting paid. They tried to get him back this year only to be told that the offer couldn't compete with where he was at. This player also played state footy last year!
Also, shopping for love player was tempted by an offer to be playing assistant coach this year. FACT!!! He decided to stay with the club where he won a premiership last year.
If it verified by the vafa then the team should be kicked out and not dropped down the divisions thus affecting teams in lower grades!!
Not from Northcote Park is (was) he?
oldtimer
13 Apr 2007, 09:43
Not from Northcote Park is (was) he?
could be;)
Champ or Chump
13 Apr 2007, 12:53
could be;)
I thought players didn't get paid in the VAFA ? :eek:
bowman11
13 Apr 2007, 19:17
I thought players didn't get paid in the VAFA ? :eek:
Which Bank ... State Bank ..... This is cryptic "What say you G Bev???"
can't mark can't kick
13 Apr 2007, 22:37
could be;)
back to this again oldtimer???
G Beven didn't play Rep footy last year.
as for the rest of your facts I won't even justify them with a response.
BrianSpeaking
13 Apr 2007, 23:26
back to this again oldtimer???
G Beven didn't play Rep footy last year.
as for the rest of your facts I won't even justify them with a response.
I will. It is absolutely ripe around the VAFA that you offered to buy a particular person white goods and pay his bills for him when he turned up to training with you guys a few weeks ago. You then told him he was overweight and sent him packing. This guy is a former AFL draftee, a decorated VAFA rep player at U19 and Senior Level, a Premiership player in the VAFA from 2004 and an absolute superstar and great bloke. You are scum and you will take a huge fall one day. What a bunch of perennuial losers, I hope you are disqualified from the VAFA this year and relegated two grades.
Lets Roar like '44
14 Apr 2007, 01:01
Are there any clubs desperate for players??
I wouldnt mind having a run, I work alot which means I cant attend every training session or game but would still like to have a hit if there are clubs desperate for players??
Are we talking night clubs, football clubs or perhaps the gay clubs you frequent in Commercial Road?
I would suggest there would only be one club in D Section, actually the whole of the VAFA who are a serial 'match payment' club. In fact, a former VAFA State rep allegedly recently knocked back a nice financial offer to play with this dirty club and took his wares up to the Murray.
Hopefully, the VAFA finally has the balls to do something about these Nazis. Hopefully, one or Two of them will be singing the Blues.
Commercial Rd? Never been there mate, clearly you have!
Cheers.
Sausage roll
14 Apr 2007, 08:22
Are there any clubs desperate for players??
I wouldnt mind having a run, I work alot which means I cant attend every training session or game but would still like to have a hit if there are clubs desperate for players??
Well, if you play D1 with a certain club you can earn a few dollars as well!!
InFineForm
14 Apr 2007, 08:30
Are there any clubs desperate for players??
I wouldnt mind having a run, I work alot which means I cant attend every training session or game but would still like to have a hit if there are clubs desperate for players??
What area are you in?
Lets Roar like '44
14 Apr 2007, 14:40
What area are you in?
Im in caulfield but not overly fussed where i end up, just keen to have a run if clubs are struggling with numbers
Concrete boots
15 Apr 2007, 21:06
I will. It is absolutely ripe around the VAFA that you offered to buy a particular person white goods and pay his bills for him when he turned up to training with you guys a few weeks ago. You then told him he was overweight and sent him packing. This guy is a former AFL draftee, a decorated VAFA rep player at U19 and Senior Level, a Premiership player in the VAFA from 2004 and an absolute superstar and great bloke. You are scum and you will take a huge fall one day. What a bunch of perennuial losers, I hope you are disqualified from the VAFA this year and relegated two grades.
Why would Prahran offer Mattheiu Lucas money?
I'd have thought playing with Paul Greenham would be enough of a lure, maybe it's not all its cracked up to be, and he needs additional incentives???
Personally, I'd have thought Matty would be fine about playing for the love of the game again. :o
We had a couple of players show up to training and ask how much we'd pay them.... needless to say they went elsewhere.... but in the VAFA still, I hear.
BrianSpeaking
16 Apr 2007, 01:07
Why would Prahran offer Mattheiu Lucas money?
I'd have thought playing with Paul Greenham would be enough of a lure, maybe it's not all its cracked up to be, and he needs additional incentives???
Personally, I'd have thought Matty would be fine about playing for the love of the game again. :o
Very poor form Concrete. What is your name? Matty didnt ask for or want incentives, they were allegedley offered to him. Dont go and dirty his name on this thread, it is a p issweak thing to do.
The Two Blues are only one stat dec away from double relegation, and if they think they can blame Lucas, then they deserve to get their punishment. Lets hope Sholls does the right thing by all of us other 'clean' ammo clubs.
crazybear
16 Apr 2007, 08:02
Very poor form Concrete. What is your name? Matty didnt ask for or want incentives, they were allegedley offered to him. Dont go and dirty his name on this thread, it is a p issweak thing to do.
The Two Blues are only one stat dec away from double relegation, and if they think they can blame Lucas, then they deserve to get their punishment. Lets hope Sholls does the right thing by all of us other 'clean' ammo clubs.
Why should D3 Clubs be punnished?????
Champ or Chump
16 Apr 2007, 10:42
Why should D3 Clubs be punnished?????
Agreed Crazy. I am sure that all the clubs in D3 would be looking forward to seeing a D1 club play in their division this season .....???
What do we think about .....if PROVEN to be the case .....
* Fine them ( they sound like they have the cash ).
* Start them 16 points in the red - in D1 for season 2007
* No promotion for 2 years
* person (s) involved in the offer - suspended from any active level of the club.
BrianSpeaking
16 Apr 2007, 10:52
Agreed Crazy. I am sure that all the clubs in D3 would be looking forward to seeing a D1 club play in their division this season .....???
What do we think about .....if PROVEN to be the case .....
* Fine them ( they sound like they have the cash ).
* Start them 16 points in the red - in D1 for season 2007
* No promotion for 2 years
* person (s) involved in the offer - suspended from any active level of the club.
Relax, if found guilty they would be not permitted to play this year at all, then relegated 2 sections at the end of the season.
Champ or Chump
16 Apr 2007, 12:54
Relax, if found guilty they would be not permitted to play this year at all, then relegated 2 sections at the end of the season.
Brian - I was just throwing out ideas - and agree that ANY CLUB MUST be proven guilty before we drag them off to the gallows.
But thank you I am very relaxed.;)
waveofthefuture
18 Apr 2007, 12:10
Jeez that'd hurt the club if they weren't permitted to play: if players head elsewhere for a kick and have a good year, would they come back? potentially club-breaking decision there...
Will Richmond Centrals dissappear because of their heads up their arse attitude, or will Sholly come true on his promise to relegate them to Division 3 of FIDA?
I guess the centrals will be around for a few more years Bob... to answer your question at the start of this thread!
can't mark can't kick
19 Apr 2007, 12:35
Brian - I was just throwing out ideas - and agree that ANY CLUB MUST be proven guilty before we drag them off to the gallows.
But thank you I am very relaxed.;)
the operative word
Champ or Chump
19 Apr 2007, 13:56
the operative word
and do we have any word on PROOF to this stage?
Jeez that'd hurt the club if they weren't permitted to play: if players head elsewhere for a kick and have a good year, would they come back? potentially club-breaking decision there...
If the club is found to be paying players, why not kick them into a pro league like SFL... Perfect solution.
BrianSpeaking
19 Apr 2007, 15:59
the operative word
Gee Matheson, you have a hide posting stuff like that.
Does this mean you are admitting too it but you know it cant be proved?
bowman11
19 Apr 2007, 16:27
If the club is found to be paying players, why not kick them into a pro league like SFL... Perfect solution.
There is no VAFA investigation whatsoever! Those that say they have the "inside" knowledge ..... rubbish!
Anyone who enquires with the VAFA will be informed that it is their common approach to interview players who are changing clubs and going down a section or three to determine why they are leaving their old club.
This is more likely to occur with high performing players, such as State Reps or club/comp B&F performers. The focus is more why they are NOT staying with their old club, rather than why they are going to their new club.
Pretty simple really, and it shouldn't be viewed as a witch-hunt against the club which has benefited from the move.
BarryDawson
20 Apr 2007, 06:54
Anyone who enquires with the VAFA will be informed that it is their common approach to interview players who are changing clubs and going down a section or three to determine why they are leaving their old club.
This is more likely to occur with high performing players, such as State Reps or club/comp B&F performers. The focus is more why they are NOT staying with their old club, rather than why they are going to their new club.
Pretty simple really, and it shouldn't be viewed as a witch-hunt against the club which has benefited from the move.
Scribe, where do you source your drinking water? I too wish to drink from the fountain of knowledge.
Barry,
I drank from a fountain located at the corner of Glenhuntly Rd and St Kilda St, Elsternwick. I was interested to find out what was going on re: players/clubs being interviewed, and the VAFA guys told me what it was about. Simple really.
Cheers :thumbsu:
Frase
kiwi rush
20 Apr 2007, 10:14
the same things come up every year about clubs paying players. Nothing ever happens and it is not because they are not paying it is because they are too smart to get caught. Everyone knows it happens so lets not pretend it doesnt.