View Full Version : Kelly won't be traded
I can 100% garuntee it.
If he is, I would like the Mods to ban me from Big Footy.
Thanks for that Belly. With that insightful post I can now sleep easy at night.
catempire
3 Oct 2006, 01:01
And what makes you so confident?
geelong32
3 Oct 2006, 11:53
i agree, why would he ? showed plenty of promise early broke his leg, had a bad season this year but he wasn't the loan ranger.
BlueNWhite
3 Oct 2006, 12:01
Liam Pickering (Kelly's manager) on SEN last night stated several times that he was very confident that Kels would be at GFC next year.
Partridge
3 Oct 2006, 12:02
i agree, why would he ? showed plenty of promise early broke his leg, had a bad season this year but he wasn't the loan ranger.
There's a year in between - 2005. He played every game and was crap last year also. Lazy, selfish, complacent. Hopefully the club will trade him.
Then again, we've still got peabrain in charge so he'll most likely stay.
year of the cat
3 Oct 2006, 12:06
Liam Pickering (Kelly's manager) on SEN last night stated several times that he was very confident that Kels would be at GFC next year.
He said two weeks ago that he would definitely be at Geelong next year. I think he still has two years left on a contract so it would take a pretty good trade to see him move you would think.
BlueNWhite
3 Oct 2006, 12:10
There's a year in between - 2005. He played every game and was crap last year also. Lazy, selfish, complacent....
Mate judging and trading GFC players on those criteria this year and we'd be offering up 50% of the list next week :D
someday-somehow
3 Oct 2006, 12:25
Mate judging and trading GFC players on those criteria this year and we'd be offering up 50% of the list next week :D
I have not noted any player show his complete unwillingness to perform accountable tough football than kelly has this year. I witnessed his last game against Hawthorn and while many were poor on the day he stoodout with his complete apathy, incredible considering he had been given another chance to show why he should be kept next year.
He stood 30 metres off his opponent, did not chase or even pretend to perform defensively. I was disgusted and thought at the time if they could get a 3rd round pick for him this year that would be a bargain.
Yes I was impressed with him 2 years ago but he needs an enormous kick up the ar#e and sometimes trading these guys is the only wake up call they listen to.
Do not give a rat's tossbag if Kelly is traded as long as we get something for him. Has loads of natural talent but it lazy, selfish and has a **** attitude. The sooner we start clearing guys like him out the quicker we can turn the place around.
Jack-Packenham
3 Oct 2006, 12:45
Kelly and S Johnson should both go due to poor attitudes and being unwilling to chase and pressure the opposition.
Trade Kelly and S Johnson to Collingwood for Tarrant.
Dont say we dont need or want Tarrant. Sack McCarthy, Playfair, Gardiner & Spencer. Kingsley delisted and Lonergan retires. Sam Hunt and Grima should be elevated as well. I would play Taz as a wingman or half forward and just let him run all day.
rossfunke
3 Oct 2006, 12:51
Stevie J did enough this year when he finally came back to keep his spot at Geelong. He showed he wanted it with some above average performances.
Mr Sensitive
3 Oct 2006, 12:52
Kelly and S Johnson should both go due to poor attitudes and being unwilling to chase and pressure the opposition.
Trade Kelly and S Johnson to Collingwood for Tarrant.
Dont say we dont need or want Tarrant. Sack McCarthy, Playfair, Gardiner & Spencer. Kingsley delisted and Lonergan retires. Sam Hunt and Grima should be elevated as well. I would play Taz as a wingman or half forward and just let him run all day.
I agree that we need a player of Tarrant's goal kicking capability, but you're ready to give Kelly and Johnson the arse to bring in a bloke who is dealing with the same issues... One step forward, another step back?
someday-somehow
3 Oct 2006, 12:53
Kelly and S Johnson should both go due to poor attitudes and being unwilling to chase and pressure the opposition.
Trade Kelly and S Johnson to Collingwood for Tarrant.
Dont say we dont need or want Tarrant. Sack McCarthy, Playfair, Gardiner & Spencer. Kingsley delisted and Lonergan retires. Sam Hunt and Grima should be elevated as well. I would play Taz as a wingman or half forward and just let him run all day.
Trade 2 poor attitudes for another?:confused:
kriso182
3 Oct 2006, 12:53
Was mentioned on SEN this morning that there is talk of a straight swap of Kelly for Lewis at Hawthorn.
Mr Sensitive
3 Oct 2006, 12:58
really? why would hawthorn wanna trade a good up and comer like lewis for Kelly? someone's gotta be telling porkies...
really? why would hawthorn wanna trade a good up and comer like lewis for Kelly? someone's gotta be telling porkies...
Clubs are always making stupid decisions at trade time and if hwathron are willing to give us Lewis for Kelly then we should be locking it in.:thumbsu: Hawthorn have done pretty well in the last couple of years with trades offloadhing Hay and Jade Rawlings for early picks so its about time they did something stupid.
thegerman
3 Oct 2006, 14:04
Kelly and S Johnson should both go due to poor attitudes and being unwilling to chase and pressure the opposition.
Trade Kelly and S Johnson to Collingwood for Tarrant.
Dont say we dont need or want Tarrant. Sack McCarthy, Playfair, Gardiner & Spencer. Kingsley delisted and Lonergan retires. Sam Hunt and Grima should be elevated as well. I would play Taz as a wingman or half forward and just let him run all day.
Many have stated that Kelly and SJ are lazy and petulent, so trading for the exact same would make us better ???
Tarrant is a lazy forward. He is more in the Michael Gardiner school of AFL, where nightlife is more important than footy.
This trade will not help the Cats, we don't need Tarrant.
BlueNWhite
3 Oct 2006, 14:17
I'm not renewing my membership if we trade for Tarrant. What a terrible decision that would be for the club to make!
....
Ok, ok, I'll renew it...but i won't be happy about it! :D
Jack-Packenham
3 Oct 2006, 14:24
I'm not renewing my membership if we trade for Tarrant. What a terrible decision that would be for the club to make!
If you are a real supporter you will renew your membership regardless of who the club trades for.
BlueNWhite
3 Oct 2006, 14:46
Coming up on 10 straight years of membership next year Jack - Tarrant probably won't even make my top 5 of awful GFC decisions since i began signing up as a youngster :D
Kelly and S Johnson should both go due to poor attitudes and being unwilling to chase and pressure the opposition.
Trade Kelly and S Johnson to Collingwood for Tarrant.
Dont say we dont need or want Tarrant. Sack McCarthy, Playfair, Gardiner & Spencer. Kingsley delisted and Lonergan retires. Sam Hunt and Grima should be elevated as well. I would play Taz as a wingman or half forward and just let him run all day.
I now believe you are commitably insane. Tarrant <<<<<< Kelly and Johnson:thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd ::thumbsd:
Jack-Packenham
3 Oct 2006, 15:35
I now believe you are commitably insane. Tarrant <<<<<< Kelly and Johnson:thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd::thumbsd ::thumbsd:
Tarrant is better than Mackie, Gardiner and S Johnson, players he would be competing against for the half forward spot.
Kelly is well down the pecking order in the midfield and is expendable.
Tarrant is better than Mackie, Gardiner and S Johnson, players he would be competing against for the half forward spot.
Kelly is well down the pecking order in the midfield and is expendable.
Tarrant has a worse goal per game average than Kinglsey - even Collingwood supporters accept he is overrated - the only people that rate him are teenage girls that think he's attractive. And yourself.
Tarrant has more talant in his left foot than all of our current forwards.
In 12 months time we'll be sitting here saying geez our forwards are dud's. If only we had a foward line. Taz had a great year 50 -60 goals finally matured at 25. We should have taken him just like Hall, Gehrig and Fevola before him.
Was mentioned on SEN this morning that there is talk of a straight swap of Kelly for Lewis at Hawthorn.
There was talk at the pub of a straight swap of Judd and Cousins for Kingsley too.....
chapmanmagic35
3 Oct 2006, 16:32
Tazza is an inconsistent HFF who is wonky in front of goals.
Why would we trade for him?
Especially Kelly and SJ. Isn't the whole argument against these two is that they have the ability but are inconsisent? What's the difference between them and Tarrant.
Keep SJ and Kelly.
BlueNWhite
3 Oct 2006, 16:44
I think what's being overlooked here too is that Collingwood are going to demand some very expensive pics or players for Taz. Not worth it.
Let's get Tarrant, Michael Gardiner and Martin Pike as an assistant coach. There will be pub crawls every weekend!
vinnie_vegas69
4 Oct 2006, 11:10
Many have stated that Kelly and SJ are lazy and petulent, so trading for the exact same would make us better ???
Tarrant is a lazy forward. He is more in the Michael Gardiner school of AFL, where nightlife is more important than footy.
This trade will not help the Cats, we don't need Tarrant.
Couldn't be less accurate.
On field, Taz is a very hard worker, as he runs his guts out every game, and chases and tackles harder than anyone else in our forward line.
As for his supposed love of the nightlife, he gets in trouble one night where 4 guys pick a fight with him and he's useless. Note the way he wasn't charged with anything, and a couple of the guys fighting him WERE?
That's nowhere near as bad as things done in the past by guys like Andrew Mackie.
someday-somehow
4 Oct 2006, 11:26
Notice this guy's signoff:
Has Collingwood's rebuilding process been totally derailed by actually finishing INSIDE the top 8?
Apparently it's easier to rebuild if you finish just outside the finals.
Making the finals must evidently prevent a team from continuing to draft young players and trying to turn over their list.
Still, maybe we should have finished 9th so we were still on the way up...
I wonder if they sooked about it last year when they got priority picks.:cool:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19826&highlight=draft+camp
23. JAMES KELLY (Calder Cannons) – Had a terrific camp, shining in the 20m sprint, agility and shuttle run tests. His performance in Canberra lifted his rating considerably.
If he was able to demonstrate his pace, agility and endurance(shuttles) in games ....
Tarrant has more talant in his left foot than all of our current forwards.
In 12 months time we'll be sitting here saying geez our forwards are dud's. If only we had a foward line. Taz had a great year 50 -60 goals finally matured at 25. We should have taken him just like Hall, Gehrig and Fevola before him.
I agree, BigCat. Haven't seen you for a while, mate.
I've always been a huge fan of Chris Tarrant. I think his upside is enormous. A good psychologist and someone other than Anthony Rocca alongside him (Mooney, Ottens, Nathan and Hawkins rotating) and we could see a different player altogether.
I agree, BigCat. Haven't seen you for a while, mate.
I've always been a huge fan of Chris Tarrant. I think his upside is enormous. A good psychologist and someone other than Anthony Rocca alongside him (Mooney, Ottens, Nathan and Hawkins rotating) and we could see a different player altogether.
Seb mate. How you going? Getting busier and busier at work
Taz would be a great fit but it won't be happening unfortunately. Oh well he'll go to Perth and turn it all around and we'll say yeah but...
catempire
9 Oct 2006, 09:58
What would you be prepared to give up for Tarrant?
year of the cat
9 Oct 2006, 10:05
Hopefully a big pre-season will see his pace return. I think with Kelly the biggest problem is his work ethic and associated ego
Unwritten_Law
9 Oct 2006, 10:11
I think what's being overlooked here too is that Collingwood are going to demand some very expensive pics or players for Taz. Not worth it.
That would be my major worry. I believe Tarrant can turn it around but it is a big risk for us in our current position to give away our first round pick AND a midfielder. The midfield is just as big a problem as our forward line is at the moment.
catempire
9 Oct 2006, 10:12
Well, there goes that idea.
Kelly to stay with Cats (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,20547902%255E19742,00.html)
09 October 2006 Herald-Sun
GEELONG will not put midfielder James Kelly on the trade table.
While every club in the competition has inquired about the status of the out-of-favour Cat, Kelly's manager Liam Pickering is adamant he will stay at Skilled Stadium.
"He has two years to run on a three-year contract and I have asked the club several times and they have categorically stated he will not be traded," Pickering said.
Kelly endured a horror season and had several stints in the VFL. He finished in the bottom five of the club's best-and-fairest with just 17 votes. Paul Chapman won the Cats' gong with 462 votes.
Defender Tim Callan is likely to seek a trade while there has been little interest in full-forward Kent Kingsley who quit the club last month.
While the Cats are unlikely to be major players in trade week, they are expected to ask Fremantle about forward Paul Medhurst who they see as a possible replacement for Kingsley.
Partridge
9 Oct 2006, 10:42
If you are a real supporter you will renew your membership regardless of who the club trades for.
Garbage. I've been seeing Geelong regularly since 1986 and that includes personally attending every Grand Final loss - day and night. If I don't want to spend my money on a Geelong membership next year that's my right. It's certainly nothing to do with you or the Geelong Football Club. Unless you'll personally reimburse me when we miss the finals again.
Back to Tarrant - I honestly can't see an upside. For an alleged star forward he doesn't average 2 goals a game, that's just not good enough. And he's been around a while now. Not worth what we'd have to give up. Remember our forward line next year will contain Mooney, Ottens, Nathan Ablett, Steve Johnson, Gary Ablett and Paul Chapman. Plus Mackie and at some point Hawkins. Who out of the above will make way for Tarrant?
Unwritten_Law
9 Oct 2006, 10:59
So that is our two tradeable commodities tied up, in Kelly and Mackie, that I wouldn't have been outraged to be put out there for late first round/early second round picks in the search for midfield draftees.
We will be fairly quiet this week if Kingsley, Wojcinski and Callan are all we are offering up for trade.
While every club in the competition has inquired about the status of the out-of-favour Cat, Kelly's manager Liam Pickering is adamant he will stay at Skilled Stadium.
His trade value from last year may have dropped but Kelly still had plenty of currency on the market this season if that is true. I bloody hope he does turn it around next year as that value will be all but gone with a repeat of 06.
costanza23
9 Oct 2006, 20:28
This news just gets worse! Kelly isn't leaving, now we're thinking about trading Kingsley for Medhurst! Why do we want Medhurst? Redonkulous, cats!
As for Tim Callan wanting to be traded, I don't mind, he has shocking disposal. Slade might be lucky enough to get back on our list again, even though his disposal is slightly better than Callan's.
Unwritten_Law
9 Oct 2006, 20:42
Kelly isn't leaving, now we're thinking about trading Kingsley for Medhurst! Why do we want Medhurst? Redonkulous, cats!
It's like trading Kent for Kent minus 10cm. I would prefer to take the lucky dip with a very late draft pick.
This news just gets worse! Kelly isn't leaving, now we're thinking about trading Kingsley for Medhurst!
If we're talking to Fremantle, the least we could do is inquire about Ryley Dunn. Given our lack of small defenders, coupled with the possible departure of someone like Fresh, Ryley wouldn't be half a bad pick-up in any Kingsley deal.