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Cursed_Cat
4 Oct 2006, 13:18
Following on from Snoop and Ants threads, I thought I’d have a crack at exploring some possible courses Geelong might take as we approach trade week and the National draft …

of course, let me add the obvious disclaimer :
these are MY VIEWs, not necessarily what I think the club will do.
- any thoughts or views are appreciated, especially from fellow Cats supporters


List makeup :

By height :
196cm and over : King, Ottens, Blake, West, Playfair, McCarthy
191-197 cm : Scarlett, Harley, Egan, Spencer, Lonergan, Mooney, N. Ablett, Mackie
183-190 cm : Corey, Gardiner, Milburn, Hunt, Ling, Bartel, Enright, Gamble, S. Johnson, Kelly, Koulouriotis, Owen, Prismall, Rooke
182 cm and under : Ablett, Chapman, Tenace, Wojcinski, Varcoe, Byrnes, Stokes, D. Johnson, Callan

Games played :
100 + : King, Scarlett, Milburn, Mooney, Harley, Corey, Ablett, Enright, Ottens, Chapman, Ling
50-100 : Bartel, Gardiner, Hunt, D. Johnson, Kelly, Mackie, Playfair, Rooke, Wojcinski, S. Johnson
Under 50 : Tenace, Egan, Byrnes, Koulouriotis, McCarthy
Under 20 : Stokes, Longergan, Prismall, N. Ablett, Spencer, Gamble, Callan, Blake
0 : West, Varcoe, Owen


Facing the axe :

Forward Mathew McCarthy and defender Mathew Spencer are two key position players that have been on our list for a while – McCarthy has proven himself to be injury prone, but not without talent. Spencer is willing but lacks a yard in pace and isn’t particularly agile. I expect both of these talls to be delisted. Charlie Gardiner has had numerous opportunities to establish himself at senior level, but hasn’t grabbed his chances. Midfielder Paul Koulouriotis seems to have had his cards marked ‘never to play AFL again’ after a consistent VFL season.
Kent Kingsley has walked, he probably would have been chopped anyway.
Tom Lonergan’s future at the GFC is uncertain at this stage, he’ll be retained if he decides to continue on though.



Treading water :

Kane Tenace was a highly-rated draft selection when he came to Geelong; his career is currently in limbo. His debut season featured his best football to date, and he seems to have gone backwards at times. Ended the year in the VFL. Needs to lock down a wing for the Cats, and is capable of doing so if he eradicates fumbles and sloppy kicks when under pressure from his game.


Depth players :

David Johnson will never be more than a handy depth player at Geelong, but at his best he *is* handy – he lost form during ’06 but was back to his best by season’s end, and should be retained. Greater consistency will be expected from him, and I think he can respond ok. Mathew Stokes and Shannon Byrnes will continue to fight for the one spot in the senior side, both have the potential to improve and have their assets and weaknesses. If Henry Playfair is kept around, he’ll find it hard to get a regular senior game with Geelong, but he is a willing, big-bodied bloke with a great attitude – can’t kick much though


Time on their side :

Trent West, Travis Varcoe and Stephen Owen all had limited VFL campaigns, are young, and will be perservered with for some time yet. Varcoe should debut at some stage next season, West might sneak a game. Owen needs a full pre-season and at least half a year in the VFL before a senior game will be even a possibility.


Expected to step up :

Andrew Mackie has taken his time to develop, but has just re-signed to Geelong for three years, and would be looking to build upon an encouraging patch of form towards the end of ’06. Nathan Ablett found opportunities hard to come by in ’06 for some reason, but after a great end to the VFL season he should come under serious consideration for senior selection early next season, providing his pre-season campaign is vigorous enough. Mark Blake has been given a few nibbles of AFL footy, and should find himself in the seniors quite a bit next year, particularly given Stephen King’s recent injury history. Brent Prismall was given some exposure in ’06 and should continue to push for senior selection in ’07. Ryan Gamble made his debut in round 22 and could be a handy addition to the forward line next year, he has some assets that would mix well with our forward line.
Rookie kpp Todd Grima has been widely-touted for promotion to the senior list in ’07 after a very encouraging year in the VFL.

Call for back-up ? :

The ruck is an interesting situation – Brad Ottens has done pretty well when rucking, but is required to put in some time in the forward line each week. Stephen King has become a shadow of the player he once was, but, relieved of the captaincy, he’ll hopefully get a full pre-season under his belt and be a good contributor next season – regardless, I doubt he can ruck one-out anymore. Mark Blake has been given a few opportunities, but seems to lack a bit of co-ordination, not uncommon in young talls. Trent West was taken at pick 31 in a weak draft with mixed reports about his ability. He’s done ok with limited opportunities in the VFL this season, but how far can he progress ? That’s four ruckmen with nagging question marks over them – all could potentially improve or regress next season.
Rumours have already begun to surface that Travis Varcoe is homesick – with speedy fellas Shannon Byrnes and David Wojcinski in and out of the side and Tenace struggling to establish himself, there are queries over our 'greyhound' stocks imo …
- Our small-to-mid sized defenders had a shocking year collectively; Josh Hunt was very shakey at times, David Johnson lost his spot in the team at one point, and Tim Callan continues to struggle to establish himself. Geelong should look for support in this department either through the draft or via trade.

Potentially trade activity :

James Kelly’s name has been continually been thrown up since mid-season, despite his manager Liam Pickering’s assurances that he’ll be staying put at Geelong. Make of that what you will. Shannon Byrnes, Tim Callan and Henry Playfair are three that could follow Kent Kingsley’s lead in seeking opportunities elsewhere. I’d speculate that Geelong would be willing to deal on all three. Steve Johnson’s name is thrown up every now and then, but I’d be surprised if many teams would bite with the state of his ankles. Cameron Ling, Corey Enright, Joel Corey and Josh Hunt are far from ‘untouchable’, but it’d take a pretty juicy deal for Geelong to pull the trigger on ‘em I’d think …
If the GFC have any sense they’ll enquire about Daniel Bradshaw, and possibly Jason Akermanis.


So, the Draft :

No doubt all non-Geelong supporters are sick to death of hearing us smugly reminding everyone we’ve got Tom Hawkins ‘in the bag’ via the father-son rule.
This has addressed the biggest problem we’ve got on our list, key forwards –Kingsley, McCarthy, Playfair have been tried with very limited success. Cameron Mooney looks good at CHF these days *if* he can keep himself out of trouble for five minutes. Nathan Ablett is steadily improving, and should at the very least be counted upon to provide some back-up to Mooney next year. So suddenly the key forward stocks are looking reasonable.
Bomber Thompson himself has put the call out for blokes that can ‘run all day’, which would suggest that he’s hoping Stephen Wells and co. have some good midfielders in mind come draft day. With Hawkins in the bag (couldn’t help myself), it would come as no surprise to see Geelong call for the best available midfielder with their first selection.
National Draft picks

#7 : best available midfielder, with indigenous trio Jetta, Proud and Collard probably being given preference to Joel Selwood.

#25 : Using this selection in an effort to trade for Bradshaw or Akermanis is definitely on the cards. If we keep the pick we’ll go for more run – assuming Todd Grima is promoted, we can afford to go all out on running players – possibly Rhyce Prismall, who’s brother is on our list. W.A.’s Brock O’Brien is a chance here also if he’s lasted, as we lack mid-sized defenders. Jackson Sheringham could be looked at for the same reason. Travis Boak, a local product like Sheringham, has some talent and is also a possibility.

#41 : Tom Hawkins, eh …

#57 : If we haven’t got selected a mid-sized defender then this pick could be used on someone like James Frawley. I like the idea of picking up gutsy Vic Metro captain Leigh Adams and turning him into a Steven Baker-type too ...

I’m not sure we’d use any selections beyond #57 … :confused:

CatmanForever
4 Oct 2006, 13:55
great post mate, well done. It will be an interesting period over the next week.

year of the cat
4 Oct 2006, 16:21
Great summary - very accurate assessment of where we are at as a playing list. Would be happy with O'Brien as a second round pick. Would add Schmidt and Moss to that list as well. Prismall is probably not worthy of such a high pick - probably will join Owen in competing for a spot in our starting 22 that is not really available.

Cursed_Cat
4 Oct 2006, 17:12
Great summary - very accurate assessment of where we are at as a playing list. Would be happy with O'Brien as a second round pick. Would add Schmidt and Moss to that list as well. Prismall is probably not worthy of such a high pick - probably will join Owen in competing for a spot in our starting 22 that is not really available.

yeah I agree that Moss and particularly Schimdt are a chance with our 2nd rounder .... :thumbsu:

eliiiiza
4 Oct 2006, 17:31
Gotta disagree with you saying that Stokes and Byrnes are battling for the same spot - the only thing they have in common is height. They both play in very different positions.

I'd say that Byrnes is competing with the likes of Tenace.

thegerman
4 Oct 2006, 18:57
Great post:thumbsu:

Would love to see a guy that hasn't rated much on the horizon, due to school comittments, that being Zac Millar. Played pretty well in the SANFL preliminary final last week for Nth Adelaide, especially with limited time.

He is a Matty Stokes type of guy only taller. Has good class in front of goal, and is pretty young (17) so has a world of time to develop further, especially size, which he already has a good shape.

Would be worth a last round pick, 57 I believe. Not too sure if we have anything beyond this.

foxdoog50
4 Oct 2006, 19:41
Great thread you must of study all the players to see what you think. I know this doesnt mean aything these days but Byrnes has resighn. But i think personaly think they should give Stokes and Byrnes more of ago. I know size lets them down but there is plenty of good small footbalers around but you have 2 be 6'2 to get a game wich i think is wrong. If your good enough to get a game regard your size u should be in e.g Remember Tony Shaw Flea Weightman from richmond and Greg Willams are all star footballers who were small and were some great of ther era! GO CATS

snowycats
4 Oct 2006, 20:22
outstanding comments - you should be employec by GFC

Only one I really have up high is Stokes - he shows real courage and is a player capable of being a 20 gamer next yaer

They need to recruit some really top disposal people - get the ball in long and accurate - no good any more in the modern game with poor disposal - you can only tolerate a very small number

Mr Sensitive
4 Oct 2006, 21:31
top post dude, just one question... Where has it been rumoured that Varcoe is homesick?? I haven't heard that anywhere and i'd be pissed to see him leave anytime in the next 2 or 3 years.. he's quality

Rosella
4 Oct 2006, 21:47
top post dude, just one question... Where has it been rumoured that Varcoe is homesick?? I haven't heard that anywhere and i'd be pissed to see him leave anytime in the next 2 or 3 years.. he's quality

Not a rumour as such - there was an article on the website (GFC)

http://gfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=296472 (http://http://gfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=296472)

well it was from the Addy

Mr Sensitive
4 Oct 2006, 22:27
thanks for the article rosella...
reading it through, i don't really get the impression that Varcoe is considering leaving, just that he misses home, which is natural. He still seems committed to the GFC and besides there isn't a NT side in could switch too..

Turbocat
4 Oct 2006, 23:11
Good Work.

I'm just not so sure we will draft mids with our first round pick unless we trade for another pick

I think we are close to the same wave length on our Rucks. Either this year or very soon we must get a quality addition our rucks. As we would rarely have a chance to get a player like Leuenbuger Id think we would almost have to consider him if he is there. He at 202 at his age could be another Sandilands , It would be very tempting after the injury run we have had. If not then we should consider a rookie ruck , give someone like Goldstien a kid who comes from a basketball background and has plenty of upside a chance.

Id say even if an unexpected tall fell to our pick , like Hansen or Thorpe or Sellars it gives us the chance to upgrade the residual tall talent on our list. Of the talls we have had hardly any have been able to cement a spot thru shear talent , why else would a kid like Nathan standout as such promising kid even coming from such a long way behind TAC type kids. With Tom and another tall , we could still draft 3 new mids which would be a fair addition.

As I have previously noted there are so many midfield kids around, I’m sure in a few years we will be talking about "how did X fall" just like Simon Black in Brisbane. If we can the type of quality that Chappy has given us as pick in the 30's I’d think we would be well pleased. I really liked the look at Batsanis in the GF. If you want a kid who can kick the ball , look no further

Copernicus
5 Oct 2006, 02:33
Thanks for that, interesting read and pretty helpful for someone like me who doesn't get to see any games except via bittorrent. Will be interesting to see who we pick up. I've certainly been under the impression from comments throughout the year that our priority aside from KP forwards, which is taken care of with tomahawk, is to draft a speedy midfielder. We have Tenace but he struggles - someone with a bit of ready-made poise will be a big asset next year.

spanna050
5 Oct 2006, 10:28
Prismall is probably not worthy of such a high pick

Correct. He is still eligible for TAC Cup next year as well. He may be worth a very late pick though, just to nab him - the kid will be a player.

The Roo
5 Oct 2006, 11:35
There is a bloke who played for Geelongs VFL side a couple of years ago by the name of Dan Jordan. He absolutely tore the Ballarat Football League apart this year kicking over 140 goals. He missed 2 games whilst playing VIC rep footy as well. Maybe the cats could get him back. You guys need a player who can kick goals whilst Hawkins and Ablett develop a little.

Cursed_Cat
5 Oct 2006, 13:49
Good Work.

I'm just not so sure we will draft mids with our first round pick unless we trade for another pick

I think we are close to the same wave length on our Rucks. Either this year or very soon we must get a quality addition our rucks. As we would rarely have a chance to get a player like Leuenbuger Id think we would almost have to consider him if he is there. He at 202 at his age could be another Sandilands , It would be very tempting after the injury run we have had. If not then we should consider a rookie ruck , give someone like Goldstien a kid who comes from a basketball background and has plenty of upside a chance.

Id say even if an unexpected tall fell to our pick , like Hansen or Thorpe or Sellars it gives us the chance to upgrade the residual tall talent on our list. Of the talls we have had hardly any have been able to cement a spot thru shear talent , why else would a kid like Nathan standout as such promising kid even coming from such a long way behind TAC type kids. With Tom and another tall , we could still draft 3 new mids which would be a fair addition.

As I have previously noted there are so many midfield kids around, I’m sure in a few years we will be talking about "how did X fall" just like Simon Black in Brisbane. If we can the type of quality that Chappy has given us as pick in the 30's I’d think we would be well pleased. I really liked the look at Batsanis in the GF. If you want a kid who can kick the ball , look no further

agree to an extent Turbo :-)

I'm not completely convinced over Blake or West either (although I was pleasantly suprised to discover West's skills are quite good during the year, even though he little opportunity to display them) and agree that Leuenberger will be a very tempting prospect - I also have no doubt that Sellar or Thorp could 'slip' through to us, giving us a rare opportunity to add two classy KP's in the one draft (Riewoldt also an option in this regard).
But the reported quality of the three young indigenous midfielders, Collard (who might jump up the order I reckon), Jetta and Proud is equally tempting imo ...
Bomber Thompson has given us the oft-quoted 'kids that can run all day' line regarding Geelong's drafting requirements this year - whilst it may have just been a throwaway line, we *were* exposed in the midfield this year, and we desperately need to inject some pace and a bit of 'star quality' into the guts - the three I mentioned would all be capable of playing a large chunk of 07's games, and would be right to go full tilt in 2008.

So whilst I entirely agree that Leuenberger/Sellar/Thorp would be strongly scrutinised if they were available with our first selection, I still reckon the GFC will grab a classy mid who might be able to pump the ball long into Hawkins 10-12 times a game ...

Appreciated everyone's comments and thoughts; lots of love for Stokes around here, I was really impressed with his VFL finals series too (and his handful of AFL games showed a lot of promise ..) - I personally would *love* to see him groomed as a small defender, he's a decent option in the midfield but his aggro and run could be very handy in the back half, particularly as this is an area where we struggled this year - he has apparently played back pocket in the SANFL, so it wouldnt be completely foreign to him, and the added versatility would be a string to his bow ...

My5t3r10u5
5 Oct 2006, 14:13
If I was an opposition coach, I would love to see Stokes playing in our backline - I would tell whoever was on him to run straight to the goal square. Stokesy would need a stepladder to spoil him!

patdman
5 Oct 2006, 14:55
I would tell whoever was on him to run straight to the goal square. Stokesy would need a stepladder to spoil him! I am not to sure with if that would work with the types of players you would put him on. I think the Davey, Milne type player is what you are looking at. I think he would be fine one out with them.

Asty
5 Oct 2006, 15:06
yeah stokes played in the backlines a bit in the sanfl
I have mentioned it before but what I would like to see him do is step up as a forward along the lines of bode, for the crows, ie take his defensive skills and apply them in the forward lines where he can cause turn overs that create goals. He would also be a dangerous rover up there. Then I would pinch hit him in on the ball so you could have him, chappy and gaz all rotating in there as goal kicking forwards and clearance winners.

d_henderson1810
6 Oct 2006, 20:36
Following on from Snoop and Ants threads, I thought I’d have a crack at exploring some possible courses Geelong might take as we approach trade week and the National draft …

of course, let me add the obvious disclaimer :
these are MY VIEWs, not necessarily what I think the club will do.
- any thoughts or views are appreciated, especially from fellow Cats supporters


List makeup :

By height :
196cm and over : King, Ottens, Blake, West, Playfair, McCarthy
191-197 cm : Scarlett, Harley, Egan, Spencer, Lonergan, Mooney, N. Ablett, Mackie
183-190 cm : Corey, Gardiner, Milburn, Hunt, Ling, Bartel, Enright, Gamble, S. Johnson, Kelly, Koulouriotis, Owen, Prismall, Rooke
182 cm and under : Ablett, Chapman, Tenace, Wojcinski, Varcoe, Byrnes, Stokes, D. Johnson, Callan

Games played :
100 + : King, Scarlett, Milburn, Mooney, Harley, Corey, Ablett, Enright, Ottens, Chapman, Ling
50-100 : Bartel, Gardiner, Hunt, D. Johnson, Kelly, Mackie, Playfair, Rooke, Wojcinski, S. Johnson
Under 50 : Tenace, Egan, Byrnes, Koulouriotis, McCarthy
Under 20 : Stokes, Longergan, Prismall, N. Ablett, Spencer, Gamble, Callan, Blake
0 : West, Varcoe, Owen


Facing the axe :

Forward Mathew McCarthy and defender Mathew Spencer are two key position players that have been on our list for a while – McCarthy has proven himself to be injury prone, but not without talent. Spencer is willing but lacks a yard in pace and isn’t particularly agile. I expect both of these talls to be delisted. Charlie Gardiner has had numerous opportunities to establish himself at senior level, but hasn’t grabbed his chances. Midfielder Paul Koulouriotis seems to have had his cards marked ‘never to play AFL again’ after a consistent VFL season.
Kent Kingsley has walked, he probably would have been chopped anyway.
Tom Lonergan’s future at the GFC is uncertain at this stage, he’ll be retained if he decides to continue on though.



Treading water :

Kane Tenace was a highly-rated draft selection when he came to Geelong; his career is currently in limbo. His debut season featured his best football to date, and he seems to have gone backwards at times. Ended the year in the VFL. Needs to lock down a wing for the Cats, and is capable of doing so if he eradicates fumbles and sloppy kicks when under pressure from his game.


Depth players :

David Johnson will never be more than a handy depth player at Geelong, but at his best he *is* handy – he lost form during ’06 but was back to his best by season’s end, and should be retained. Greater consistency will be expected from him, and I think he can respond ok. Mathew Stokes and Shannon Byrnes will continue to fight for the one spot in the senior side, both have the potential to improve and have their assets and weaknesses. If Henry Playfair is kept around, he’ll find it hard to get a regular senior game with Geelong, but he is a willing, big-bodied bloke with a great attitude – can’t kick much though


Time on their side :

Trent West, Travis Varcoe and Stephen Owen all had limited VFL campaigns, are young, and will be perservered with for some time yet. Varcoe should debut at some stage next season, West might sneak a game. Owen needs a full pre-season and at least half a year in the VFL before a senior game will be even a possibility.


Expected to step up :

Andrew Mackie has taken his time to develop, but has just re-signed to Geelong for three years, and would be looking to build upon an encouraging patch of form towards the end of ’06. Nathan Ablett found opportunities hard to come by in ’06 for some reason, but after a great end to the VFL season he should come under serious consideration for senior selection early next season, providing his pre-season campaign is vigorous enough. Mark Blake has been given a few nibbles of AFL footy, and should find himself in the seniors quite a bit next year, particularly given Stephen King’s recent injury history. Brent Prismall was given some exposure in ’06 and should continue to push for senior selection in ’07. Ryan Gamble made his debut in round 22 and could be a handy addition to the forward line next year, he has some assets that would mix well with our forward line.
Rookie kpp Todd Grima has been widely-touted for promotion to the senior list in ’07 after a very encouraging year in the VFL.

Call for back-up ? :

The ruck is an interesting situation – Brad Ottens has done pretty well when rucking, but is required to put in some time in the forward line each week. Stephen King has become a shadow of the player he once was, but, relieved of the captaincy, he’ll hopefully get a full pre-season under his belt and be a good contributor next season – regardless, I doubt he can ruck one-out anymore. Mark Blake has been given a few opportunities, but seems to lack a bit of co-ordination, not uncommon in young talls. Trent West was taken at pick 31 in a weak draft with mixed reports about his ability. He’s done ok with limited opportunities in the VFL this season, but how far can he progress ? That’s four ruckmen with nagging question marks over them – all could potentially improve or regress next season.
Rumours have already begun to surface that Travis Varcoe is homesick – with speedy fellas Shannon Byrnes and David Wojcinski in and out of the side and Tenace struggling to establish himself, there are queries over our 'greyhound' stocks imo …
- Our small-to-mid sized defenders had a shocking year collectively; Josh Hunt was very shakey at times, David Johnson lost his spot in the team at one point, and Tim Callan continues to struggle to establish himself. Geelong should look for support in this department either through the draft or via trade.

Potentially trade activity :

James Kelly’s name has been continually been thrown up since mid-season, despite his manager Liam Pickering’s assurances that he’ll be staying put at Geelong. Make of that what you will. Shannon Byrnes, Tim Callan and Henry Playfair are three that could follow Kent Kingsley’s lead in seeking opportunities elsewhere. I’d speculate that Geelong would be willing to deal on all three. Steve Johnson’s name is thrown up every now and then, but I’d be surprised if many teams would bite with the state of his ankles. Cameron Ling, Corey Enright, Joel Corey and Josh Hunt are far from ‘untouchable’, but it’d take a pretty juicy deal for Geelong to pull the trigger on ‘em I’d think …
If the GFC have any sense they’ll enquire about Daniel Bradshaw, and possibly Jason Akermanis.


So, the Draft :

No doubt all non-Geelong supporters are sick to death of hearing us smugly reminding everyone we’ve got Tom Hawkins ‘in the bag’ via the father-son rule.
This has addressed the biggest problem we’ve got on our list, key forwards –Kingsley, McCarthy, Playfair have been tried with very limited success. Cameron Mooney looks good at CHF these days *if* he can keep himself out of trouble for five minutes. Nathan Ablett is steadily improving, and should at the very least be counted upon to provide some back-up to Mooney next year. So suddenly the key forward stocks are looking reasonable.
Bomber Thompson himself has put the call out for blokes that can ‘run all day’, which would suggest that he’s hoping Stephen Wells and co. have some good midfielders in mind come draft day. With Hawkins in the bag (couldn’t help myself), it would come as no surprise to see Geelong call for the best available midfielder with their first selection.
National Draft picks

#7 : best available midfielder, with indigenous trio Jetta, Proud and Collard probably being given preference to Joel Selwood.

#25 : Using this selection in an effort to trade for Bradshaw or Akermanis is definitely on the cards. If we keep the pick we’ll go for more run – assuming Todd Grima is promoted, we can afford to go all out on running players – possibly Rhyce Prismall, who’s brother is on our list. W.A.’s Brock O’Brien is a chance here also if he’s lasted, as we lack mid-sized defenders. Jackson Sheringham could be looked at for the same reason. Travis Boak, a local product like Sheringham, has some talent and is also a possibility.

#41 : Tom Hawkins, eh …

#57 : If we haven’t got selected a mid-sized defender then this pick could be used on someone like James Frawley. I like the idea of picking up gutsy Vic Metro captain Leigh Adams and turning him into a Steven Baker-type too ...

I’m not sure we’d use any selections beyond #57 … :confused:



How can you consider getting rid of Shannon Byrnes? He just isn't given a go by Bomber, that's all. He has much-needed pace, talent and can rack up possessions. Bomber drops Tenace and Byrnes after one bad game, but keeps giving hacks like Playfair and Gardiner chance after chance.

Rosso
6 Oct 2006, 21:47
How can you consider getting rid of Shannon Byrnes? He just isn't given a go by Bomber, that's all. He has much-needed pace, talent and can rack up possessions. Bomber drops Tenace and Byrnes after one bad game, but keeps giving hacks like Playfair and Gardiner chance after chance.

He needs to work on his goal kicking on the run. For a bloke that stands 5 foot nothing but can run like the wind he has to be able to finish if he is going to become a regular at AFL level. At his height he needs to make his goal kicking a priority to enable him to spend time resting in a forward pocket as he's probably too one dimensional ATM.

Tenace will play more this year and will prove his worth. Unfairly berated for his disposal (especially on this forum) as he was pretty handy this year when he got his hands on the ball. Pies will be keen on him if we get involved in a trade for Tarrant (they want a first round + a midfielder) but I can't see us giving him away. Needs to be given time in the midfield and not just on a wing. With his explosiveness, he has something that the rest of our list hasn't, and we need to use it.

As for Hank and Charlie, Hank will hang on and will have to work hard to get ahead of Moons and Nath in the pecking order but I think that Charlie may be shown the door if we trade for a forward.

Billy Ryan
8 Oct 2006, 16:47
Stokes plays surprisingly tall for his height. He can take a good grab as evidenced by that game against Port when he pretty much won the game for us.