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What constitutes an 'abysmal record in the league'? I dare say 16 other teams would aspire andbe content to finish 3rd with a limited budget at their disposal....which Liverpool quite readily admit. Maybe this transfer window will reap something that can bridge that gap.
I would say a club like Bolton has a limited budget. Rafa has spent 100 million pounds! Do you aspire to finish 3rd? Are you content with finishing 3rd?
windyhill
27 May 2007, 10:36
No bossco, 100 million squid is chump change compared to what big spending watford, sheff utd, wigan, reading etc etc etc can afford to blow.
You're right we didn't win the treble. We only won the title. Wouldn't you love to be able to say that. The hardest one to win. I'm extremely happy with Man Utd's season. The FA cup was the worst game i've ever seen.
What are your honest thoughts on Liverpools season? Does Rafa's excellent European record mask his poor domestic record? And smashed against AC..... weren't we all?
As much as Ill be the first to admit its frustrating to always be the 'bridesmaid, never the bride', its hardly abysmal also. In a nutshell, we need another player that can turn a game, win it off his own boot. My immediate wishlist would be a striker, another centre back and someone down the left wing.
I would say a club like Bolton has a limited budget. Rafa has spent 100 million pounds! Do you aspire to finish 3rd? Are you content with finishing 3rd?
The fact that you're both missing my point is laughable, or ignorant (take your pick there)....Ive clearly brought up two articles that clearly illustrate my point in regards to the difference in our side's riches. We havent been able to spend 20+ million on any one player....my only mistake in my posts last night was not to add Chelsea and Man Utd after the term 'limited budget'
But one can clearly see thats exactly what I was trying to get across to another brick wall earlier this morning.
No bossco, 100 million squid is chump change compared to what big spending watford, sheff utd, wigan, reading etc etc etc can afford to blow.
You really cant think for yourself, can you?
windyhill
27 May 2007, 14:08
You really cant think for yourself, can you?
No, unlike poor downtrodden,cashless liverpool I can actually pay someone to do that for me.
Man there's a lot of crap in this thread, just for the record
Quality of football
Man Utd > Liverpool
Consistency
Man Utd > Liverpool
mathew ollaik
27 May 2007, 14:24
My cats name is mittens
The fact that you're both missing my point is laughable, or ignorant (take your pick there)....Ive clearly brought up two articles that clearly illustrate my point in regards to the difference in our side's riches. We havent been able to spend 20+ million on any one player....my only mistake in my posts last night was not to add Chelsea and Man Utd after the term 'limited budget'
But one can clearly see thats exactly what I was trying to get across to another brick wall earlier this morning.
Why not? Rafa has spent on average 33 million pound a year. Why wouldn't he spend 20 on a top quality player, and the other 13(on average) on building squad players.
Why not? Rafa has spent on average 33 million pound a year. Why wouldn't he spend 20 on a top quality player, and the other 13(on average) on building squad players.
We havent had billionaire owners in recent times to substantiate a bidding war against the league heavyweights. How have we been able to outbid against a Russian tycoon that can pretty much poach anyone on the globe?
Man there's a lot of crap in this thread, just for the record
Quality of football
Man Utd > Liverpool
Consistency
Man Utd > Liverpool
That is by far the most insightful post Ive ever read.
We havent had billionaire owners in recent times to substantiate a bidding war against the league heavyweights. How have we been able to outbid against a Russian tycoon that can pretty much poach anyone on the globe?
The fact is you have never targeted a 20 mil player. The outbidding factor has never come into it. You haven't had billionaire owners but you have had on average 33 mil a year that you have spread too thin. Thats why you lack match winners. 20 mil a year for 3 years would buy you quality.
The fact is you have never targeted a 20 mil player. The outbidding factor has never come into it. You haven't had billionaire owners but you have had on average 33 mil a year that you have spread too thin. Thats why you lack match winners. 20 mil a year for 3 years would buy you quality.
I dont argue that point, but we havent had the financial backing to go after the stars or marquee players that have proven their worth. Failed ventures in Cisse (14million) and Kewell in the past 7 years would make most club administrators nervous. You only need to look further back as far as Houllier's tenure at the club to see that he's spent 113 milllion in just under 5 seasons with Liverpool. Agreed, we do lack matchwinners, what we dont lack is quality (which you all seem to unanimously agree, yet fail to acknowledge)...especially down back.
kelvin_sheedy
31 May 2007, 10:59
Good to see Man U already boosting their squad with some quality young guns in Anderson and Nani. Massive signings :)
Add in Hargraeves and possibly a striker and we are looking vrey strong for next year. ;)
Good to see Man U already boosting their squad with some quality young guns in Anderson and Nani. Massive signings :)
Add in Hargraeves and possibly a striker and we are looking vrey strong for next year. ;)
Hard to argue there. Chelsea have thrown their hat in the ring again by taking Sidwell also from Reading. Most clubs should be looking at Reading for hard working players.
Very excited about those signings, bring on the start of the football season!
BABYBOMBERS2007
1 Jun 2007, 01:49
Hard to argue there. Chelsea have thrown their hat in the ring again by taking Sidwell also from Reading. Most clubs should be looking at Reading for hard working players.
Yeah go CHELSEA!!!
Chelsea bidding for "Stan" Alves, Liverpool owners would want to hurry up and deliver a spending budget to rafa.
Chelsea bidding for "Stan" Alves, Liverpool owners would want to hurry up and deliver a spending budget to rafa.
What else is new. He's either got some secret up his sleeve or they havent given him an exact figure to work with yet. Hard not to remain frsutrated.The EPL could suffer a heavy blow is Henry leaves the competition. Italians and Spanish are making big plays for him as we speak.
At least we have wrapped up Carragher (most underrated centre back in the league...) and Gerrard till 2011. Thats one positive I suppose.
Henry has va va voomed his way to Barcelona for 16mil pounds. Huge blow for the gunners.
Nuts4Bolts
23 Jun 2007, 17:34
Henry has va va voomed his way to Barcelona for 16mil pounds. Huge blow for the gunners.
With more maybe to follow. Starting with their manager. Looks like Liverpool may have 3 spot wrapped up all ready!!!
retroparty
23 Jun 2007, 18:00
Henry has va va voomed his way to Barcelona for 16mil pounds. Huge blow for the gunners.
Jeez arsenal are really going through the transistional stage now. They need to sign a key striker quick
Arsenal will have a fair amount of money to play with. With the Spanish league over for the season, expect some big names to be mooted during the transfer window.
Smyth94
24 Jun 2007, 17:30
Jeez arsenal are really going through the transistional stage now. They need to sign a key striker quick
On the contrary I don't think we don't.
RVP and Adebayor are a perfect strike team. Arsenal played most of last season pretty much without Henry and it was only injuries to other key players that derailed our season.
If RVP can continue the form he showed last season he is world class
Adebayor if he continues to improve will be world class
Fabregas is world class
Gallas is world class
Toure is world class
Lehmann is world class
Rosicky is world class
Gilberto is world class
There are a lot of quality players, young players at Arsenal. It is a matter of keeping them on the pitch at the same time.
On the contrary I don't think we don't.
RVP and Adebayor are a perfect strike team. Arsenal played most of last season pretty much without Henry and it was only injuries to other key players that derailed our season.
If RVP can continue the form he showed last season he is world class
Adebayor if he continues to improve will be world class
Fabregas is world class
Gallas is world class
Toure is world class
Lehmann is world class
Rosicky is world class
Gilberto is world class
There are a lot of quality players, young players at Arsenal. It is a matter of keeping them on the pitch at the same time.
better look out, world class surrounds us, i've never heard so much rot in my life. You have just lost your best player by a mile.
Arsenal will have a fair amount of money to play with. With the Spanish league over for the season, expect some big names to be mooted during the transfer window.
16 mil pound, and they probably can't afford to spend that much, they are no longer a threat
BertRito
24 Jun 2007, 20:25
The key to the Arsenal squad now is depth. We played poorly throughout last season because Henry was out for an extended period and a few other players got injured. The players who filled in were not of high enough quality, especially the strikers (remembering that Van Persie was also injured for a while). Adebayor isn't going to be world class until his finishing improves, and the likes of Gilberto, Rosicky, Hleb et al don't score enough from midfield to ease the load a little like the United players (Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes).
I'd love to see the club bring in plenty of fresh talent. Remember the heady days when the likes of Ljungberg, Pires, Viera all arrived around the same time? We need a crop like that coming through to help out the outstanding talent we do have, like Fabregas, Clichy, Toure and Van Persie.
It's going to be a tough season I think. And I'll hopefully be over there watching a game at Emirates Stadium in November, which should be fun. As long as we come away with a win. ;)
Nuts4Bolts
24 Jun 2007, 21:03
On the contrary I don't think we don't.
RVP and Adebayor are a perfect strike team. Arsenal played most of last season pretty much without Henry and it was only injuries to other key players that derailed our season.
If RVP can continue the form he showed last season he is world class
Adebayor if he continues to improve will be world class
Fabregas is world class
Gallas is world class
Toure is world class
Lehmann is world class
Rosicky is world class
Gilberto is world class
There are a lot of quality players, young players at Arsenal. It is a matter of keeping them on the pitch at the same time.
Well I'm convinced. Clearly Arsenal will leap frog Man U and Chelsea and anything less than the double will be a dissapionting year.
[quote=Smyth94;7915706]On the contrary I don't think we don't.
RVP and Adebayor are a perfect strike team.
Perfect apart from the important part of scoring goals...
If RVP can continue the form he showed last season he is world class
So in out mediocre form is world class?
Smyth94
24 Jun 2007, 23:52
The key to the Arsenal squad now is depth. We played poorly throughout last season because Henry was out for an extended period and a few other players got injured. The players who filled in were not of high enough quality, especially the strikers (remembering that Van Persie was also injured for a while). Adebayor isn't going to be world class until his finishing improves, and the likes of Gilberto, Rosicky, Hleb et al don't score enough from midfield to ease the load a little like the United players (Ronaldo, Giggs, Scholes).
Exactly. Arsenal do not have the depth of a Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool for that matter. When we get injuries to key players it really shows and our results dip big time. It isn't a question of the quality of Arsenal's squad it is how well we can cover those quality players.
Well I'm convinced. Clearly Arsenal will leap frog Man U and Chelsea and anything less than the double will be a dissapionting year.
So you don't agree Arsenal have a young, talented squad?
RVP and Adebayor are a perfect strike team.
Perfect apart from the important part of scoring goals...
RVP was our leading scorer up until his foot injury. Your obvious lack of knowledge and bias really disturbs me. You obviously just look at the EPL table and see "Arsenal 4th place - 68 pts" and come to the conclusion that they are that far from the pace...Just last season we beat the champs twice, one without Henry, were 1-0 up against Chelsea until Essien levelled with a few minutes to go and towelled Liverpool up a few times.
But why do I bother pointing this out? It's just like beating my head against a brick wall, you wouldn't know quality if it hit you in the face.
One of two things will happen here, Arsenal will either sign up a capable player to add bums on seats or they'll crumble. With of without Wenger, they'll need to begin rebuilding again.
Well I'm convinced. Clearly Arsenal will leap frog Man U and Chelsea and anything less than the double will be a dissapionting year.
You're just being silly now. Man Utd are still head and shoulders above the competition at this stage. Chelsea will be thereabouts till Janurary, then drop off due to African Nations Cup competition, Liverpool will at least remain 3rd again...who knows from there on. From 4th to 6th....in no particular order, Arsenal, Bolton & Newcastle.
Think he was being sarcastic due to all the "worldclass" players Arsenal still have.
Think he was being sarcastic due to all the "worldclass" players Arsenal still have.
Well, I realise that, I was pointing out his sarcasm went too far also. His point was they still have very high class players in their ranks. Same argument with Liverpool. They can still match it with the world's leading clubs with their ever reliable world class players in their ranks.
Surprisingly, the only team to have really blown us away this past season was in fact Arsenal.
Your obvious lack of knowledge and bias really disturbs me. You obviously just look at the EPL table and see "Arsenal 4th place - 68 pts" and come to the conclusion that they are that far from the pace...Just last season we beat the champs twice, one without Henry, were 1-0 up against Chelsea until Essien levelled with a few minutes to go and towelled Liverpool up a few times.
But why do I bother pointing this out? It's just like beating my head against a brick wall, you wouldn't know quality if it hit you in the face.
They are that far off the pace, and probably further behind now that Henry has left. That is a fair assessment not a biased one, and to say that the loss of Henry will not affect you would be showing an obvious lack of knowledge. It would also be worrying that Wenger will more than likely not be there after this last year of his contract, and Fabregas also linking his future to that of his manager. Yes you have some young talent but as with all youth, consistency is the key.
retroparty
25 Jun 2007, 21:26
Arsenal need to sign a good english talent. If you had a look at their list you wouldn't think they were in the EPL
Smyth94
26 Jun 2007, 00:58
Arsenal need to sign a good english talent. If you had a look at their list you wouldn't think they were in the EPL
Theo Walcott maybe? :rolleyes:
Smyth94
26 Jun 2007, 00:59
They are that far off the pace, and probably further behind now that Henry has left. That is a fair assessment not a biased one, and to say that the loss of Henry will not affect you would be showing an obvious lack of knowledge. It would also be worrying that Wenger will more than likely not be there after this last year of his contract, and Fabregas also linking his future to that of his manager. Yes you have some young talent but as with all youth, consistency is the key.
We'll see how ManUre goes this season if they cop injuries to key players. The only thing that won you the title was the fact that you remained injury free for the whole season.
Oh and C. Ronaldo
C. Ronaldo = Man Utd
Smyth94
26 Jun 2007, 01:02
Think he was being sarcastic due to all the "worldclass" players Arsenal still have.
No world class players at Arsenal, none at all. Arsene Wenger wishes he had the "Galacticos" available at ManU
:rolleyes:
jules101
26 Jun 2007, 01:12
No world class players at Arsenal, none at all. Arsene Wenger wishes he had the "Galacticos" available at ManU
:rolleyes:
I cant remember who won the premier league last season.. :confused:
Theo Walcott maybe? :rolleyes:
Wow, that's 1.
No world class players at Arsenal, none at all. Arsene Wenger wishes he had the "Galacticos" available at ManU
I made no mention on how many we may have, you guys have a couple, no more than that
We'll see how ManUre goes this season if they cop injuries to key players. The only thing that won you the title was the fact that you remained injury free for the whole season.
Oh and C. Ronaldo
C. Ronaldo = Man Utd
Why do you keep bringing up man utd when we are talking about Arsenal. You talk of bias but clearly you are biased against Manchester United because of a deep set hatred. I'll try again.
Are you worried that Wenger looks like leaving at the end of his contract if not sooner? Are you worried that Fabregas will follow him?
kelvin_sheedy
26 Jun 2007, 17:26
What are the odds that Barca will be facing Arsenal in the CL.
It's guaranteed to happen.
Wright fears for Gunners after Henry exit
Arsenal goalscoring great Ian Wright has revealed the departures of Thierry Henry and David Dein has left him fearing for the Gunners' future.
Henry was unveiled by Barcelona today after a £16.1million move from the Emirates Stadium and Wright admits he had feared the worst after former vice-chairman Dein quit the north London club earlier this year.
Wright, whose Gunners goalscoring record was overhauled by the France international striker, told talkSPORT: 'When David Dein left I said it was going to have major consequences and it's been proved right.
'I said at the time Thierry Henry won't be happy, obviously he's got links with the Dein family. But I was more worried about Arsene Wenger not signing a new contract and now with Henry saying Wenger might not be there at the end of next season.
'I used to say `Arsenal always bounce back they will be fine' but without Mr Dein there I'm worried and I said that at the start when Mr Dein left that I was worried.
'They are not going to do a Leeds. But Dein had the fans' concerns at heart. I don't know if they (the regime) feel the same way about the fans and the club as Dein did and if he was still at helm I would be happy.'
Wright also believes Henry should have left the Gunners last season, saying: 'Thierry's heart wasn't in it last season. I think he thought Barcelona might have passed him by but it came up again this season so once it came up he was just going to go.
'I thought he should have gone last season, he could have made more money for the club, but all dragged out and now he's gone, it's the end of an era. But when you hear him saying with Wenger he doesn't know what is happening there, all the disruption at the club, it's a little bit of a cop out.
'The way he played last season with his body language wasn't right but when I mentioned it he had the hump with me. He didn't seem right - he should have gone last season maybe and I think he has dragged it out last season and now he has gone.
Former England striker Wright sympathises with Gunners fans, adding: 'It's a little bit upsetting for them. It was the same with Patrick (Vieira). Is he leaving, is he staying? It was the same with Thierry over the last couple of seasons.
'The fans can just concentrate on keeping Wenger there. I feel sorry for the fans because now they have just got a deflated feeling about them, I've seen them wearing black armbands.
'But they have got to get up and go and get on with it and support who is there now.'
courtesy espnsoccernet
What are the odds that Barca will be facing Arsenal in the CL.
It's guaranteed to happen.
Yep!
AsIfYouCare
26 Jun 2007, 19:39
No world class players at Arsenal, none at all. Arsene Wenger wishes he had the "Galacticos" available at ManU
:rolleyes:
As a Spurs supporter, I couldn't be happier:)
Smyth94
26 Jun 2007, 19:43
Wow, that's 1.
I made no mention on how many we may have, you guys have a couple, no more than that
Like it matters anyway. Since when did signing english talent become a prerequisite for a top-flight club?
Smyth94
26 Jun 2007, 19:55
Why do you keep bringing up man utd when we are talking about Arsenal. You talk of bias but clearly you are biased against Manchester United because of a deep set hatred. I'll try again.
Are you worried that Wenger looks like leaving at the end of his contract if not sooner? Are you worried that Fabregas will follow him?
I never once downplayed Manchester United. Great team, but by all means not a team full of super-stars. I claim Arsenal still have world-class players (albiet a little OTT) and you go on to say that they are "that far off the pace", when IMO they are clearly not.
Biased as I may be you can't discount the fact that we BEAT you TWICE last season, one of them without Henry. In my mind there is no doubting Arsenal have the quality to match it with Man Utd and Chelsea...it's just a matter of keeping our stars on the park at the same time.
To your question regarding if I'm worried that Wenger looks like leaving at the end of his contract? It's a bit rhetorical isn't it? I'm quaking my boots at the thought of Wenger leaving and with most likely the back-bone of our squad with him as would any Arsenal fan.
Biased as I may be you can't discount the fact that we BEAT you TWICE last season, one of them without Henry. In my mind there is no doubting Arsenal have the quality to match it with Man Utd and Chelsea...it's just a matter of keeping our stars on the park at the same time.
That is the exact reason i think you are that far away from contending for the title. You managed to beat the champions twice, yet still finished 21 points behind! Granted they were good results but building yourselves up for a couple of big games is a hell of a lot different to producing consistent results, consistent enough to challenge for the title.
Smyth94
27 Jun 2007, 11:18
That is the exact reason i think you are that far away from contending for the title. You managed to beat the champions twice, yet still finished 21 points behind! Granted they were good results but building yourselves up for a couple of big games is a hell of a lot different to producing consistent results, consistent enough to challenge for the title.
Have you ever even looked at the reason as to why we produced inconsistent results?
RVP on fire before he broke his foot, Henry out for most of the season, ditto Gallas, ditto Eboue, Rosicky spent large chuncks on the sidelines, Adebayor was missing at times. There was a point in the season when our entire first-choice strike force (Henry, RVP and Adebayor) were all missing. I'm not saying that we're going to win the title next season however, if we manage to keep all those players (minus Henry) on the park for 90% of the 38 games we are going to be very dangerous
kelvin_sheedy
27 Jun 2007, 12:32
Have you ever even looked at the reason as to why we produced inconsistent results?
RVP on fire before he broke his foot, Henry out for most of the season, ditto Gallas, ditto Eboue, Rosicky spent large chuncks on the sidelines, Adebayor was missing at times. There was a point in the season when our entire first-choice strike force (Henry, RVP and Adebayor) were all missing. I'm not saying that we're going to win the title next season however, if we manage to keep all those players (minus Henry) on the park for 90% of the 38 games we are going to be very dangerous
Chelsea suffered injuries yet still challenged.
Man U suffered crucial injuries late yet still held on.
Injuries excuse doesn't cut it.
Not enough quality to challenge for the the title is the bottom line.
I'm not convinced the combination of Adebayor and RVP is a world class.
The worry for Arsenal or Liverpool would be a team like Newcastle challenging for 3rd and 4th.;)
Smyth94
27 Jun 2007, 21:59
Chelsea suffered injuries yet still challenged.
Man U suffered crucial injuries late yet still held on.
Injuries excuse doesn't cut it.
Not enough quality to challenge for the the title is the bottom line.
I'm not convinced the combination of Adebayor and RVP is a world class.
The worry for Arsenal or Liverpool would be a team like Newcastle challenging for 3rd and 4th.;)
Don't talk crap with me. Chelsea have the biggest squad in the world, so injuries aren't going to affect them as deeply as an Arsenal. Man U suffered crucial injuries late on? It's no wonder why you won the league by the skin of your teeth.
Your "not enough quality to challenge for the title" doesn't wash with me. We might be one or two stars short of winning the title but write us off at your own peril.
The Sun tackles the big football issues.....
Is Rafa's beard the worst ever?
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2007300316,00.jpg
HAIR WE GO ... Liverpool boss
Benitez with his new goatee
ANDREW DILLON
June 30, 2007
KOP that beard! Liverpool boss Rough-a Benitez must have got up in a hurry and forgot to shave.
How else can you explain the Spaniard’s dodgy goatee in this picture?
Rafa has decided on a new look during the summer and he showed it off as he sealed Mali midfielder Momo Sissoko’s new four-year contract.
Forget Fernando Torres, Benitez needs Neil ‘Razor’ Ruddock back at Anfield.
The Sun tackles the big football issues.....
Is Rafa's beard the worst ever?
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2007300316,00.jpg
HAIR WE GO ... Liverpool boss
Benitez with his new goatee
ANDREW DILLON
June 30, 2007
KOP that beard! Liverpool boss Rough-a Benitez must have got up in a hurry and forgot to shave.
How else can you explain the Spaniard’s dodgy goatee in this picture?
Rafa has decided on a new look during the summer and he showed it off as he sealed Mali midfielder Momo Sissoko’s new four-year contract.
Forget Fernando Torres, Benitez needs Neil ‘Razor’ Ruddock back at Anfield.
Speaking of deep seeded hatred for a side, any particular reason why Liverpool suddenly came into a debate about Arsenal?
You're a one man band with about as much rhythm as a Bjork's latest album.
]Chelsea suffered injuries yet still challenged.
Man U suffered crucial injuries late yet still held on.
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Injuries excuse doesn't cut it.
Not enough quality to challenge for the the title is the bottom line.
I'm not convinced the combination of Adebayor and RVP is a world class.
The worry for Arsenal or Liverpool would be a team like Newcastle challenging for 3rd and 4th.;)
Referring to Man Utd, they enjoyed a relatively injury free season to their stars. You're kidding yourself if you think injuries to stars have no effect on a team's results (need I remind you of Essendon's 06 season?)
And in reference to Chelsea, they have a massive squad, ready made substitutes of the highest with the likes of Wright Phillips, Bridge, Kalou, Ballack to name a few in their rotations.
If Liverpool, Arsenal or Man Utd had that sort of playing list at their disposal...anything less than 1st or 2nd would be totally unacceptable.
Nuts4Bolts
2 Jul 2007, 09:43
Speaking of deep seeded hatred for a side, any particular reason why Liverpool suddenly came into a debate about Arsenal?
You're a one man band with about as much rhythm as a Bjork's latest album.
Speaking of deep seated hatred, why couldn't Bossco post a humours article on what clearly is a terrible beard from Rafa? I love Rafa but even I had a giggle about it. It appears Boscco might not be the only one man band on this thread.
Speaking of deep seated hatred, why couldn't Bossco post a humours article on what clearly is a terrible beard from Rafa? I love Rafa but even I had a giggle about it. It appears Boscco might not be the only one man band on this thread.
Very insightful indeed. Not sure how that adds to my query though, but thank you for your input. Cant wait for your contribution though...'contribution' being the operative word here.
Nuts4Bolts
2 Jul 2007, 17:47
Very insightful indeed. Not sure how that adds to my query though, but thank you for your input. Cant wait for your contribution though...'contribution' being the operative word here.
It wasn't a query. It was just you having a go at Bossco. Your behaviour against him is as bad as his against Longy413. Grow up.
Speaking of deep seeded hatred for a side, any particular reason why Liverpool suddenly came into a debate about Arsenal?
You're a one man band with about as much rhythm as a Bjork's latest album.
I don't mind Liverpool at all, great history. I only hate the clubs that are actually a threat to mine. Sorry for putting up something i found humourous, it's more laughing at The Sun than Rafa. It has nothing to do with the debate about Arsenal, but my last post on that was 4 days earlier! But thanks for pointing out Rule number 1 of this thread, don't dare change the topic without checking with Crave.
It wasn't a query. It was just you having a go at Bossco. Your behaviour against him is as bad as his against Longy413. Grow up.
He and I go way back, if you dont like it, ignore it or cop it sweet.
I don't mind Liverpool at all, great history. I only hate the clubs that are actually a threat to mine. Sorry for putting up something i found humourous, it's more laughing at The Sun than Rafa. It has nothing to do with the debate about Arsenal, but my last post on that was 4 days earlier! But thanks for pointing out Rule number 1 of this thread, don't dare change the topic without checking with Crave.
I havent had a chance to catch up till weekend past. Im pretty much free to bump up any opinion and have my say as I please. Do you have a problem with that?
Nuts4Bolts
2 Jul 2007, 18:37
He and I go way back, if you dont like it, ignore it or cop it sweet.
As a fellow Liverpool and Bomber supporter Crave, I like you. I just don't like you sinking to mindless troll levels. Your better than that. Now how about we talk footy? Happy with the Torres deal?
I havent had a chance to catch up till weekend past. Im pretty much free to bump up any opinion and have my say as I please. Do you have a problem with that?
Not at all, just don't come on here sooking about a harmless funny post. Having a go about including Liverpool in the Arsenal argument was just plain wrong. But as we know with the whole Rooney argument, you hate to admit you're wrong so i won't hold my breath.
As a fellow Liverpool and Bomber supporter Crave, I like you. I just don't like you sinking to mindless troll levels. Your better than that. Now how about we talk footy? Happy with the Torres deal?
With all due respect, you know how often Bossco and I go toe to toe. It shouldnt come as a surprise to you. He knows that he'll come after any opposing opinion I have with a heartbeat and vice versa.
Incidently, if any other opposition troll went at Bossco, or yourself...or anyone that follows our beloved club, in a moment's notice Id tear them a new one without taking a breath.
In regards to Torres deal, great acquisition....but not what we should be after. Another Spaniard at this point.
Not at all, just don't come on here sooking about a harmless funny post. Having a go about including Liverpool in the Arsenal argument was just plain wrong. But as we know with the whole Rooney argument, you hate to admit you're wrong so i won't hold my breath.
Who said anything about sooking? Just querying your motives...you've stated your reason with it, Im fine with it. Ill admit I jumped on you unfairly also.
For those who might be interested...
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/
kelvin_sheedy
11 Jul 2007, 12:43
Liverpool bringing in the duds again - Benayoun?
Man U and Chelsea once again doing the business via the transfer market.
Not convinced about Tevez to Man U though.
jules101
11 Jul 2007, 13:45
Liverpool bringing in the duds again - Benayoun?
Man U and Chelsea once again doing the business via the transfer market.
Not convinced about Tevez to Man U though.
That Torres is a dud
AJ_2000
11 Jul 2007, 14:04
For those who might be interested...
http://fantasy.premierleague.com/
League Code?
kelvin_sheedy
11 Jul 2007, 15:09
That Torres is a dud
Could very well be.
The best Spanish players are usually signed up by Real or Barca.
The second tier usually move overseas or play for clubs like Atletico.
Could very well be.
The best Spanish players are usually signed up by Real or Barca.
The second tier usually move overseas or play for clubs like Atletico.
Torres is a gun. Don't worry about that.
Could very well be.
The best Spanish players are usually signed up by Real or Barca.
The second tier usually move overseas or play for clubs like Atletico.
Shows how much you know. Torres has been a consistent scorer for both country and club since he went professional. Whether he adapts to the EPL is a different matter.
To dismiss him as a dud is careless. By the way, does that mean Ronaldo is only second tier?
League Code?
Im already in a league, feel free to create your own, however, theyre very strict on having more than one team if you get caught.
Note : be wary as the name you register on the application form is publicised on the ladder...for those like myself who dont wish to disclose their real name on this forum.
kelvin_sheedy
11 Jul 2007, 18:43
Shows how much you know. Torres has been a consistent scorer for both country and club since he went professional. Whether he adapts to the EPL is a different matter.
To dismiss him as a dud is careless. By the way, does that mean Ronaldo is only second tier?
Never said he was a dud.
I'm just curious as to why Barca or Real haven't signed him as they usually grab the best Spanish players.
Jury is still out on whether he's world class or not.
Never said he was a dud.
I'm just curious as to why Barca or Real haven't signed him as they usually grab the best Spanish players.
Jury is still out on whether he's world class or not.
Well you don't cross town from Atletico to Real if you want to stay alive. And the whole Catalan v Madrid hatred would not have put him at the top of Barca's shopping list. The politics in Spanish football are more complex than most.
He is world class but the settling in and adjusting to English football will be the query. Can't wait to see Vidic kick the crap out of him;)
DonMania#5
11 Jul 2007, 19:28
Im already in a league, feel free to create your own, however, theyre very strict on having more than one team if you get caught.
Note : be wary as the name you register on the application form is publicised on the ladder...for those like myself who dont wish to disclose their real name on this forum.
You can be in as many leagues as you want.
Would anyone be interested if a Essendon league was made?
Shows how much you know. Torres has been a consistent scorer for both country and club since he went professional. Whether he adapts to the EPL is a different matter.
To dismiss him as a dud is careless. By the way, does that mean Ronaldo is only second tier?
Kelvin has completely different theories about the portugese
windyhill
11 Jul 2007, 21:50
Shows how much you know. Torres has been a consistent scorer for both country and club since he went professional. Whether he adapts to the EPL is a different matter.
To dismiss him as a dud is careless. By the way, does that mean Ronaldo is only second tier?
Never knew Ronaldo was Spanish !!??
Portuguese, Spanish....all the same to me.
Never said he was a dud.
I'm just curious as to why Barca or Real haven't signed him as they usually grab the best Spanish players.
Jury is still out on whether he's world class or not.
Oops, my bad. It was Jules. Sorry. Im just glad we got rid of Bellamy finally. So much promise, never delivered. Time for West Ham to deal with that problem child.
You can be in as many leagues as you want.
Would anyone be interested if a Essendon league was made?
Yeah, I know you can be in as many leagues as possible. If i can get away with creating another team, sure...ill be in. Otherwise, prefer to keep my full name private. ;)
jules101
11 Jul 2007, 22:44
Oops, my bad. It was Jules. Sorry. Im just glad we got rid of Bellamy finally. So much promise, never delivered. Time for West Ham to deal with that problem child.
It was sarcasm
mojon95
23 Jul 2007, 23:57
It was sarcasm Man United need to get Lucas Neill to strengthen their defence, which is good, but nowhere near as good as there midfielders and strikers.
He loves West Ham's money too much, we wouldn't be silly to give him the wages they are, there a plenty other good defenders around, Rio and Vidic aren't bad anyway
Man United need to get Lucas Neill to strengthen their defence, which is good, but nowhere near as good as there midfielders and strikers.
Is this bloke one of your mates crave?
Spurs have splashed the cash and have formed the best 4 man strike force in the EPL.
Berbatov, Bent, Keane and Defo.
Show me a better strike force.
-Mav
Spurs have splashed the cash and have formed the best 4 man strike force in the EPL.
Berbatov, Bent, Keane and Defo.
Show me a better strike force.
-Mav
Replace "splashed the cash" with "pissed it up the wall on the most embarrassingly overpriced player ever Darren Bent".
kelvin_sheedy
24 Jul 2007, 22:30
Spurs have splashed the cash and have formed the best 4 man strike force in the EPL.
Berbatov, Bent, Keane and Defo.
Show me a better strike force.
-Mav
Where are the other 3 to support Berbatov?
Is this bloke one of your mates crave?
Missing me were you? No, seriously...I had to confirm it wasnt one of your outlandish statements. Then again, your little 'Let's resign Bolton' gem is going great guns...gathering momentum as we speak.
Happy to fire back at you, chump. Keep 'em coming.
Spurs have splashed the cash and have formed the best 4 man strike force in the EPL.
Berbatov, Bent, Keane and Defo.
Show me a better strike force.
-Mav
Pushing it a little there, arent we? Next you're going to tell me Rooney, Saha and Smith are the deadliest combination.
Pushing it a little there, arent we? Next you're going to tell me Rooney, Saha and Smith are the deadliest combination.
What a waste of breath that would be
Bent might be a little overpriced (alright hugely overpriced) but he will be a very handy back up to the class that is berbs
What a waste of breath that would be
Bent might be a little overpriced (alright hugely overpriced) but he will be a very handy back up to the class that is berbs
Would be a waste, lucky they're able to get goals from all over the park, Spurs might get 4th, although I still think Liverpool and Arsenal are better
Would be a waste, lucky they're able to get goals from all over the park, Spurs might get 4th, although I still think Liverpool and Arsenal are better
i think we have arsenal covered. liverpool i seriously think they can challenge for the title. we will finish 4th
i think we have arsenal covered. liverpool i seriously think they can challenge for the title. we will finish 4th
Good to see you're aiming high.
Still treading carefully, sure, we've finally spent up big to rival any club in the EPL...whether they adapt is a different story. So far signs are good and I seriously think we're the best equipped English side for the Champions League final.
Man Utd are still in the box seat as long as Ronaldo has another stellar season, but Chelsea will be tougher this season.
Still treading carefully, sure, we've finally spent up big to rival any club in the EPL...whether they adapt is a different story. So far signs are good and I seriously think we're the best equipped English side for the Champions League final.
Man Utd are still in the box seat as long as Ronaldo has another stellar season, but Chelsea will be tougher this season.
Going on your champions league form of the last 3 seasons i don't disagree with you but i think with your squad improvements you may be still trying for the title after xmas, your champions league success has come from concentrating on that alone. Be interesting to see how you go if you are still in line for 3 trophies come april
Nuts4Bolts
25 Jul 2007, 21:54
New stadium plans relased today as well Crave. 60,000 capacity with the ability to increase to 70,000. Things looking up.
Going on your champions league form of the last 3 seasons i don't disagree with you but i think with your squad improvements you may be still trying for the title after xmas, your champions league success has come from concentrating on that alone. Be interesting to see how you go if you are still in line for 3 trophies come april
I actually was hoping for another English striker...someone uncompromising in their attack of the ball. Wishful thinking wouldve had Anelka back at the Reds again.
I think we'll know by January who is fighting for the championship. Not many teams challenge outside top 2 after Xmas/NY.
New stadium plans relased today as well Crave. 60,000 capacity with the ability to increase to 70,000. Things looking up.
Fingers crossed we turn it around, quietly optimistic yet eternally cautious.
I actually was hoping for another English striker...someone uncompromising in their attack of the ball. Wishful thinking wouldve had Anelka back at the Reds again.
I think we'll know by January who is fighting for the championship. Not many teams challenge outside top 2 after Xmas/NY.
Better off with a foreigner, voronin will probably turn out as good if not better than bent, and thats not saying much. English players are overpriced except of course your favourite player Wayne!!!;)