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geelong16
12 Oct 2006, 10:00
i cant believe bomber, he said many changes would be made at the end of this year, so far its going to be one assistant coach thats it. i suspected he would have got in and made a few trades but i just heard on sen that they proabably wont be going for any trades!
Partridge
12 Oct 2006, 10:08
i cant believe bomber, he said many changes would be made at the end of this year, so far its going to be one assistant coach thats it. i suspected he would have got in and made a few trades but i just heard on sen that they proabably wont be going for any trades!
I'm not surprised. Disgusted, but not surprised. Look at his relationship with the players. He doesn't want to delist anyone because he wants to be friends with them. Poor management. He's not there to be their mate, he's there to coach the team to their optimum. That's the problem.
Jack-Packenham
12 Oct 2006, 10:50
This was a huge issue after the Moloney/Ottens deal. He publicly said he wouldn't ever go through this again. Surely if you are the leader of the group you must make decisions that best suit the group going forward. We have selected a new captain who has come out and said that he must get the group closer together, so that means we can't trade anybody because we don't want to have the players upset they have lost a mate. So once again an underperforming group has been protected by a captain and a coach who don't want to upset anybody.
nananana catman
12 Oct 2006, 12:06
...or perhaps they believe with a tough pre-season this is the group to take us forward...
Im just spitballing though
thehoff
12 Oct 2006, 13:20
All garbage - When there is nothing to trade for, why bother? Who would any of you attempt to lure to the cattery?
There have been more changes than just 1 assistant coach. There have been many adminstrative roles changes and altered at the club as a result of the audit.
There is such my garbage spoke on here at times.
There have been more changes than just 1 assistant coach. There have been many adminstrative roles changes and altered at the club as a result of the audit.
Exactly. Quite a few major changes have been made:
- a GM of football operations will be appointed to handle non-coaching matters (releiving Bomber of these duties)
- pre-season training will be changed
- a new assistant coach to replace Lovell
There may not be many changes to the playing list, but there will be fairly substantial changes to what happens off-field, which will hopefully be reflected in on-field performance. Anyone who thinks that the only thing that's changed is getting rid of Lovell is kidding themselves.
nananana catman
12 Oct 2006, 13:36
All garbage - When there is nothing to trade for, why bother? Who would any of you attempt to lure to the cattery?
There have been more changes than just 1 assistant coach. There have been many adminstrative roles changes and altered at the club as a result of the audit.
There is such my garbage spoke on here at times.
Agree whole heartedly
hawks2008premiers
12 Oct 2006, 13:49
Agree whole heartedly
looking from outside cats should of went hell for leather for bradshaw hes the type ta need to win a premiership a big tall forward
worthogs
12 Oct 2006, 14:40
This was a huge issue after the Moloney/Ottens deal. He publicly said he wouldn't ever go through this again. Surely if you are the leader of the group you must make decisions that best suit the group going forward. We have selected a new captain who has come out and said that he must get the group closer together, so that means we can't trade anybody because we don't want to have the players upset they have lost a mate. So once again an underperforming group has been protected by a captain and a coach who don't want to upset anybody.
i cant believe bomber, he said many changes would be made at the end of this year, so far its going to be one assistant coach thats it. i suspected he would have got in and made a few trades but i just heard on sen that they proabably wont be going for any trades!
So Jack
In you illustrous career as a recruiting agent Who do we go for in Draft week. Bradshaw was a play we are touting your mate at the Crows we will delist KK and Charlie and probably a few other s but what else is out there????????
and Geelong16 put your mouth onto the keyboard and shed some light to your plans
Kaitsey
12 Oct 2006, 14:44
you guys say this now, but by midway next season when you will be in or around the top 4 you'll be whacking off bomber and all of geelong.
Jack-Packenham
12 Oct 2006, 14:56
So Jack
In you illustrous career as a recruiting agent Who do we go for in Draft week. Bradshaw was a play we are touting your mate at the Crows we will delist KK and Charlie and probably a few other s but what else is out there????????
I think I can understand what you are trying to say. It's not just a matter of who you go after, it's who you put on the table. I would have put the names of King, Enright, Ling, Kelly, S Johnson, Playfair, Kingsley and Tenace on the table. I would not have traded all of them but if we could have got a couple of good deals done I would have let any of those players go. The ones that would have stayed along with the rest of the playing group would have received a strong message that poor performances and bad attitude is unacceptable. I recruit for the company I work for (I know it's not a footy club) and I make the tough decisions on what is best for the company going forward. If that means sacking a couple of guys who are not the right fit for our business I will do it. Thats my job. I make the decision that will be best for the company.
Partridge
12 Oct 2006, 15:06
I think I can understand what you are trying to say. It's not just a matter of who you go after, it's who you put on the table. I would have put the names of King, Enright, Ling, Kelly, S Johnson, Playfair, Kingsley and Tenace on the table. I would not have traded all of them but if we could have got a couple of good deals done I would have let any of those players go. The ones that would have stayed along with the rest of the playing group would have received a strong message that poor performances and bad attitude is unacceptable. I recruit for the company I work for (I know it's not a footy club) and I make the tough decisions on what is best for the company going forward. If that means sacking a couple of guys who are not the right fit for our business I will do it. Thats my job. I make the decision that will be best for the company.
Agree totally with the sentiments Jack, but slightly disagree with the personnel. To me Enright does his job and Tenace hasn't had the chances others have. Everyone else I have no problem with.
Rhombus
12 Oct 2006, 15:13
Some fair Shyte being spoken here.
There have been a number of changes made by the GFC and I think you'll find there'll be a few more.
Obviously there will be 3-4 delistings in the next few weeks as well but they're probably waiting until the overseas farce is finished.
Very rarely to clubs trade more than 1 or 2 players per trade period.
I've been very impressed by the way Brian Cook has approached the last few months.
darren forssman
12 Oct 2006, 15:27
i cant believe bomber
...but if we could have got a couple of good deals done I would have let any of those players go.
But isn't that exactly the problem. What deals could have been done that would have left the club any better off? No-one will trade early draft picks, and what players could we realistically have targeted? At best you're likely end up with mid-range draft picks.
I recruit for the company I work for (I know it's not a footy club) and I make the tough decisions on what is best for the company going forward. If that means sacking a couple of guys who are not the right fit for our business I will do it. Thats my job. I make the decision that will be best for the company.
The major difference here (although I don't know what industry you're in) is that I imagine finding approprite replacements is much more straightforward. You're not dealing with a limited talent pool of elite-level footballers, with serious restrictions on the ability to recruit (trading, draft etc). You can't afford to let players in your best 22 go for peanuts just to make a point.
CatmanForever
12 Oct 2006, 16:48
i cant believe bomber
I can't believe it's not butter ;)
chapmanmagic35
12 Oct 2006, 16:55
Weak as water.
C'mon, suggest something instead of having a whinge.
Renegade
12 Oct 2006, 17:40
Where's the surprising part?
All talk no action, been that way for over 40 years. Just accept the fact another year is about to be wasted. Makes it easier when the inevitable happens.
chapmanmagic35
12 Oct 2006, 17:41
Where's the surprising part?
All talk no action, been that way for over 40 years. Just accept the fact another year is about to be wasted. Makes it easier when the inevitable happens.
Rennis? :rolleyes:
Sounds like a lot of early judgement. There is no point making trades for the sake of change if they dont improve the playing group. Why go ahead and trade johnson for medhurst and playfair for jerico. If we could get drafts picks it is a better option but no one is trading drafts this year.
I will wait and see who and how many bomber delists for the draft before saying he isn't making change.
chapmanmagic35
12 Oct 2006, 17:52
Sounds like a lot of early judgement. There is no point making trades for the sake of change if they dont improve the playing group. Why go ahead and trade johnson for medhurst and playfair for jerico. If we could get drafts picks it is a better option but no one is trading drafts this year.
I will wait and see who and how many bomber delists for the draft before saying he isn't making change.
Spot on!
cat in sydney
13 Oct 2006, 11:20
Rennis? :rolleyes:
You may be on to something there cm35!!:eek:
One of the changes made after the Review is that Bomber would be focusing on coaching rather than other aspects of the club e.g. drafting, recruiting
So why would you have a go at Bomber when he is not the main decision maker when it comes to drafting and trading?