Brisbane Lions board drafting game

[Warwick]

I thought it might be interesting if we had a drafting game. My idea was to see who could draft the best team of 22 from all 100 Brisbane Lion players since 1997. The only rule i have so far is:

Each team is allowed to draft a maximum of 3 extra players who either played for the bears or Fitzroy (in the 90's). The rest of your 22 must be made from the 100 BL players.The 100 players to have represented the lions are:

1. Michael Voss
2. Justin Leppitsch
3. Nigel Lappin
4. Alastair Lynch
5. Jason Akermanis
6. Simon Black
7. Shaun Hart
8. Mal Michael
9. Chris Johnson
10. Luke Power
11. Jonathan Brown
12. Marcus Ashcroft
13. Clark Keating
14. Craig McRae
15. Martin Pike
16. Chris Scott
17. Darryl White
18. Richard Champion
19. Brad Scott
20. Des Headland
21. Craig Lambert
22. Matthew Kennedy
23. Daniel Bradshaw
24. Tim Notting
25. Robert Copeland
26. Beau McDonald
27. Blake Caracella
28. Jamie Charman
29. Jarrod Molloy
30. Ashley McGrath
31. Richard Hadley
32. Jed Adcock
33. Justin Sherman
34. Matthew Clark
35. Aaron Shattock
36. Steven Lawrence
37. Brad Boyd
38. Jared Brennan
39. Adam Heuskes
40. Adrian Fletcher
41. Brett Voss
42. Michael Rischitelli
43. Scott McIvor
44. Andrew Bews
45. Josh Drummond
46. Jason Roe
47. Craig Bolton
48. Troy Selwood
49. Joel MacDonald
50. Shane O’Bree
51. Anthony Corrie
52. Matthew Moody
53. Tristen Lynch
54. Danny Dickfos
55. Ben Robbins
56. Nathan Chapman
57. Damien Cupido
58. Cheynee Stiller
59. Ben Fixter
60. Rhan Hooper
61. Mitch Clark
62. Joel Patfull
63. Dylan McLaren
64. Dion Scott
66. Daniel Merrett
67. Cameron Wood
68. Wayde Mills
69. Marcus Picken
70. Trent Bartlett
71. Scott Bamford
72. Andrew Gowers
73. Martin Pask
74. Shane Clayton
74. John Barker
75. Martin McKinnon
76. Scott Harding
77. Shane Morrison
78. Rory Hilton
79. Trent Knobel
80. Jayden Attard
81. Nick Trask
82. Mick Martin
83. Nathan Clarke
84. Jason Gram
85. Marcus Allen
86. Daniel Pratt
87. David Calthorpe
88. Shannon Rusca
89. Luke Weller
90. Llane Spaanderman
91. Tom Logan
92. Nick Carter
93. Brent Green
94. Derek Wirth
95. Colm Begley
96. Stefan Carey
97. Darren Bradshaw
98. Travis Baird
99. Leigh Ryswyk
100. Michael McLean

Reply to this thread if you are interested. Unfortunately, there is only room for 4 more teams, so be quick. If 5 more people really want to play, we will make it best 18. First in, best dressed. I will post the draft order when we have enough participants. Good luck. :thumbsu:

[toddy]

im in warwick.

[Grimreepah]

So how does it work? Do you take turns picking players? And how is the winner decided?

[Warwick]

So how does it work? Do you take turns picking players? And how is the winner decided?
Not sure how the winner is decided as such. Maybe have a poll on the Den after the game has finished where everyone can vote for their favourite team?

Basically just works the same way as the draft, i.e it would go something like this:

First round (say there were 4 people):

Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4

Team 4
Team 3
Team 2
Team 1

Team 3
Team 1
Team 4
Team 2

Team 2
Team 4
Team 1
Team 3

Therefore, in each round you pick up 4 players, so there would be around 5 rounds. The order changes around a bit within the round to allow equality.

I'm open to any suggestions however to make it better.

[Grimreepah]

And a team is one person. Is that right?

Now IMO (sorry to be pedantic) having pick 1 in round one is far more advantageous than have the last pick in round 2. I think you need some sort of tossing of the coin so to speak to decide what the team order is.

I presume that we are picking players based on when they were at their prime.

By the way - I'm in.

Obviously part of the skill (in terms of when the best side is being judged in the Den) is picking players for a team, so it's not necessarily just a matter of picking best available.

[Warwick]

And a team is one person. Is that right?
Correct.

Now IMO (sorry to be pedantic) having pick 1 in round one is far more advantageous than have the last pick in round 2. I think you need some sort of tossing of the coin so to speak to decide what the team order is.
The order i put was just one round (4 players per round). Each round is made up of 4 "mini-rounds". To make it fairer we could swap the mini-rounds around in the next round. (That made sense while i was typing it :D ). We will have to have a virtual toss of the coin to see who is which team.

I presume that we are picking players based on when they were at their prime.
Yep.

By the way - I'm in.
Good stuff. If we don't get at least 1 more player, we could postpone it to another night.

Obviously part of the skill (in terms of when the best side is being judged in the Den) is picking players for a team, so it's not necessarily just a matter of picking best available.
Exactly. Although you could do whatever you like, but the eventual winner will be judged on who has the best "team" (i.e. a team with 22 midfielders will not win).

[Grimreepah]

The list provided is a list of Brisbane Lions players only. right?

You wouldn't know where I can get a list of the Bears and Fitzroy players who played in the 90s would you? Or is finding such a list part of the challenge?:p

[Warwick]

The list provided is a list of Brisbane Lions players only. right?

You wouldn't know where I can get a list of the Bears and Fitzroy players who played in the 90s would you? Or is finding such a list part of the challenge?:p
Yeah that is just BL players. If you go to finalsiren.com there are team sheets from every year. I just made it players from the 90's so most people have seen them play.

[toddy]

I think it should be part of the game, you have to do research..

[Grimreepah]

I think it should be part of the game, you have to do research..

Know where to find stuff hey:rolleyes:

I can't get the info, so I'll have to go from memory. Naturally I will start as underdog.

[toddy]

No i only started supporting from when Lions were formed so my knowledge isnt very good. I think Warwick has a pretty good memory so he would start favourite.

[Warwick]

No i only started supporting from when Lions were formed so my knowledge isnt very good. I think Warwick has a pretty good memory so he would start favourite.
The psychological testing starts already (therefore Grim is favourite ;)).

[Grimreepah]

The psychological testing starts already (therefore Grim is favourite ;)).

I wouldn't dare start with the mind games. You're far too clever for me.

[Warwick]

I wouldn't dare start with the mind games. You're far too clever for me.
The man's good. The man is very good.


But it isn't going to work...

[toddy]

Current Odds:

Warwick- $1.75
Grimreepah- $1.90
Toddy- $2.50

[Grimreepah]

I think Warwick has a pretty good memory so he would start favourite.

Yeah, he knows his stuff, so it will be a good challenge for us.

[Ashli]

Current Odds:

Warwick- $1.75
Grimreepah- $1.90
Toddy- $2.50

Oh so you overprice yourself so that you get a higher return ey...

[Grimreepah]

Current Odds:

Warwick- $1.75
Grimreepah- $1.90
Toddy- $2.50

I'll have two bob on toddy thanks. That's great value.:thumbsu:

[Warwick]

Oh so you overprice yourself so that you get a higher return ey...
Ashli we need another female to play to even it up (2 guys, 2 girls). Wanna give it a shot?

[Ashli]

Um... Ok... can I have a couple lifelines seeing as i was only 8 when the Lions were formed and only 1 1/2 in 1990:p

[Grimreepah]

Um... Ok... can I have a couple lifelines seeing as i was only 8 when the Lions were formed and only 1 1/2 in 1990:p

Claiming underdog status hey. Enough with the mind games already:rolleyes:

ps. I always thought Warwick was a fella.

[Ashli]

Claiming underdog status hey. Enough with the mind games already:rolleyes:

Haha nope! Just stating the facts!;)

[Warwick]

Um... Ok... can I have a couple lifelines seeing as i was only 8 when the Lions were formed and only 1 1/2 in 1990:p
I'm not all that much older. Don't worry too much about the bears, fitzroy players if you don't want too because you only get a maximum of 3, and you don't need to pick any of them.

www.footywire.com (http://www.footywire.com) gives you information on players' heights etc, and you are quite welcome to ask questions about the position certain players played (i'm not too sure myself with some of them looking at that list of 100 :o ).

So Warwick, toddy, Grimreepah, Ashli... are we all ready to play?

[Warwick]

Claiming underdog status hey. Enough with the mind games already:rolleyes:

ps. I always thought Warwick was a fella.
:D That sort of backfired didn't it? I was referring to someone else.


Anyway, how are we going to decide who are teams 1-4?

[Grimreepah]

So Warwick, toddy, Grimreepah, Ashli... are we all ready to play?

Lets go champ:thumbsu:

[Ashli]

Sure why not. I am interested to see how this pans out!

[Grimreepah]

:D That sort of backfired didn't it? I was referring to someone else.

:p

Anyway, how are we going to decide who are teams 1-4?

I've got a coin. What do you want Warwick, heads or tails?

[Warwick]

Tails

[Grimreepah]

Tails

Heads it is. I'll go first.

[Ashli]

Heads it is. I'll go first.

Yeah sure it was heads:p

[Warwick]

Heads it is. I'll go first.
:D OK, never trust a man you can't see. How about i send a number to everyone's PM box and whoever gets the closest gets to pick which team they want (i.e. 1-4). The next closest can pick the next team etc, and ill have the team left over. If you want the draft order, have a look on the first page.

Just reply quickly if you have read this so i know you understand. We are playing a trust game :cool: . DO NOT READ THE PRIVATE MESSAGE!!

[Ashli]

What is the number between and where do we write the number we have chosen

[toddy]

uhh 4 for me

[Grimreepah]

What is the number between and where do we write the number we have chosen

Good question. I'm not quite sure what I'm supposed to do.

[Warwick]

OK i have all sent you a PM with a number between 1 and 1000. All reply now with your number and we will see who gets the closest. DO NOT READ THE PM UNTIL YOU HAVE POSTED!!

[Grimreepah]

Do I reply on here?

[Ashli]

I haven't even gotten the pm yet..

ok i will say

236

[Grimreepah]

toddy = 4
Ashli = 236
Grimreepah = 237

Can I look at the number yet?

[Warwick]

:D What an effort...

Ok, the number was 934. You can check it now if you want. :p

Grim gets to pick which team he wants, Ashli picks next, than toddy, than Warwick.

[toddy]

i was only 930 off damn it!!

[Ashli]

Haha so wasn't fair. but Ok grim. what no are you goin to be?

[Grimreepah]

Not sure how the winner is decided as such. Maybe have a poll on the Den after the game has finished where everyone can vote for their favourite team?

Basically just works the same way as the draft, i.e it would go something like this:

First round (say there were 4 people):

Team 1
Team 2
Team 3
Team 4

Team 4
Team 3
Team 2
Team 1

Team 3
Team 1
Team 4
Team 2

Team 2
Team 4
Team 1
Team 3

Therefore, in each round you pick up 4 players, so there would be around 5 rounds. The order changes around a bit within the round to allow equality.

I'm open to any suggestions however to make it better.

I'll take Team 1.

[Ashli]

team 3 for me please

[Warwick]

toddy? Team 2 or 4?

[toddy]

ill take 4!

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss

FB:
HB:
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:
R:
Int:

[Warwick]

Official draft order:

First round:
1. Grimreepah - Michael Voss
2. Warwick - Jonathon Brown
3. Ashli - Justin Leppitsch
4. toddy - Mal Michael

5. toddy - Simon Black
6. Ashli - Nigel Lappin
7. Warwick - Alastair Lynch
8. Grimreepah - Jamie Charman

9. Ashli - Luke Power
10. Grimreepah - Craig Lambart
11. toddy - Clark Keating
12. Warwick - Jason Akermanis

13. Warwick - Nathan Buckley
14. toddy - Chris Johnson
15. Grimreepah - Roger Merrett
16. Ashli -

I'll continue to edit this post with the selections. All rounds are the same. First pick to Grim! Good luck all!! :thumbsu:

[Warwick]

Pick 2 - Jonathon Brown

Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):

FB:
HB:
C:
HF:, Brown
FF:
R:
Int:

[Ashli]

Pick 3 - Justin Leppitch

[Warwick]

Toddy's computer is playing up apparently but he has rung me to say his picks are:

Pick 4 - Mal Michael

Pick 5 - Simon Black.

He said he should have it up and running again soon.

It's your turn Ashli.

[Ashli]

NIgel Lappin

[Warwick]

Pick 7 - Alastair Lynch (:p trying to out muscle you all early)

Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):

FB:
HB:
C:
HF:, Brown
FF:, Lynch
R:
Int:

[toddy]

Im back cheers Warwick, oh and a question is it just on brisbane form, so if somone went on at another club to do some good things do you count that??

[Warwick]

Im back cheers Warwick, oh and a question is it just on brisbane form, so if somone went on at another club to do some good things do you count that??
I have a feeling we may be thinking along the same lines :p . Not just going on Brisbane form.

You're up Grim.

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman

FB:
HB:
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:
R: Charman
Int:

[Ashli]

I say yes. It is a team of players... Otherwise that could stuff up my team too:P

[Ashli]

Luke Power

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert

FB:
HB:
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:

[toddy]

Clark Keating

[Warwick]

Pick 12 - Jason Akermanis
Pick 13 - Nathan Buckley (1/3 free agents used)

Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):
FB:
HB:
C: , Buckley,
HF:, Brown
FF:, Lynch
R:, Akermanis
Int:

Toddy is up...

[toddy]

Chris Johnson


FB: C.Johnson M.Michael

HB:

C:

HF:

FF:

R: C.Keating S.Black

I:

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert
pick 15 - Roger Merrett

FB:
HB:
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:,R. Merrett
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:

[FattyLumpkin]

Someone - please pick Paul Roos !!!

[Warwick]

You got one Ashli?

[Grimreepah]

You got one Ashli?

You got me with the Buckley one. You're going to be hard to catch now.

[Ashli]

Aurgh sorry guys. I kept refreshing the page and well.. it didn't go to the next page obviously!!.. One sec!

[Ashli]

R Merrett (1/3 of old players used up)

[toddy]

Did Chris Judd ever sneak in a game for Fitzroy??

[Grimreepah]

R Merrett (1/3 of old players used up)

trade week is later;)

I've already picked him.

[Warwick]

You got me with the Buckley one. You're going to be hard to catch now.
Guess who my second free agent was going to be? Look at the post 63 :mad: . That was going to be my rabbit-out-of-the-hat bargin basement pick around 100 :p .

[Warwick]

Did Chris Judd ever sneak in a game for Fitzroy??
hahahah :D

[Warwick]

R Merrett (1/3 of old players used up)
Grim has that one Ash. Got another one?

[Ashli]

Dammit lol
ummm

Matthew Clark

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert
pick 15 - Roger Merrett
pick 17 - Paul Roos

FB:
HB:, Paul Roos
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:,R. Merrett
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:

[toddy]

Paul Roos

Warwick wont be happy!

[Warwick]

Matthew Clark
Great pick up. I was hoping he would fall to be my ruckman. I may end up with Strawb in the ruck *shudders*.

OK, first round is over:
First round:
1. Grimreepah - Michael Voss
2. Warwick - Jonathon Brown
3. Ashli - Justin Leppitsch
4. toddy - Mal Michael

5. toddy - Simon Black
6. Ashli - Nigel Lappin
7. Warwick - Alastair Lynch
8. Grimreepah - Jamie Charman

9. Ashli - Luke Power
10. Grimreepah - Craig Lambart
11. toddy - Clark Keating
12. Warwick - Jason Akermanis

13. Warwick - Nathan Buckley
14. toddy - Chris Johnson
15. Grimreepah - Roger Merrett
16. Ashli - Doc Clark

Some excellent pick-ups so far, and everyone's team is looking very strong. Ashli and Grim are going to have superb midfields, and toddy's strength is definately down back. Warwick is trying to win with the two massive towers up forward. Still plenty of quality around. The third and forth rounds are going to be where it is won or lost.

Grim has next pick...

Edit: curse you grim!!

[Grimreepah]

Warwick wont be happy!

Stuff him.

[toddy]

Word is Toddy is on a mad hunt for some hidden talent ala John Beveridge.

[Warwick]

First round:
1. Grimreepah - Michael Voss
2. Warwick - Jonathon Brown
3. Ashli - Justin Leppitsch
4. toddy - Mal Michael

5. toddy - Simon Black
6. Ashli - Nigel Lappin
7. Warwick - Alastair Lynch
8. Grimreepah - Jamie Charman

9. Ashli - Luke Power
10. Grimreepah - Craig Lambart
11. toddy - Clark Keating
12. Warwick - Jason Akermanis

13. Warwick - Nathan Buckley
14. toddy - Chris Johnson
15. Grimreepah - Roger Merrett
16. Ashli - Doc Clark

Second round:
17. Grimreepah - Paul Roos
18. Warwick - Richard Champion
19. Ashli - Daniel Bradshaw
20. toddy - Darryl White

21. toddy - Brad Hardie
22. Ashli - Justin Sherman
23. Warwick - Shaun Hart
24. Grimreepah - Matthew Primus

25. Ashli - Jared Molloy
26. Grimreepah - Martin Pike
27. toddy - Craig Bolton
28. Warwick - Matthew Kennedy

29. Warwick - Brad Boyd
30. toddy - Brad Scott
31. Grimreepah - Jason Roe
32. Ashli -

[Warwick]

Pick 18: Richard Champion

Warwick's recruiting staff have gone off the "best available" path and have drafted for need.


Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):
FB:, Champion
HB:
C: , Buckley,
HF:, Brown
FF:, Lynch
R:, Akermanis
Int:

[Ashli]

Pick 3- Leppitsch
Pick 6 - Lappin
Pick 9 - Power
Pick 16 - Matt Clark
Pick 19: Daniel Bradshaw


FB:
HB:, Leppitsch
C: Lappin
HF:
FF:, Bradshaw
R: Power, Matt Clark
I/C:

[toddy]

ok well ill take Darryl White and can i get confirmation about Brad Hardie's availability?

[FattyLumpkin]

Just go the Fitzroy connection - Osborne, Pert, Rendell, Johno, Pikey, Boyd - just to name a few

[Grimreepah]

ok well ill take Darryl White

and who else?

[Warwick]

I would love to have the two picks in a row at this point in time.

[FattyLumpkin]

looking for ruckman - Mathew Primus perhaps

[toddy]

Brad Hardie, desperate for forwards!!

[Ashli]

Pick 3- Leppitsch
Pick 6 - Lappin
Pick 9 - Power
Pick 16 - Matt Clark
Pick 19: Daniel Bradshaw
Pick 22: Justin Sherman
FB:
HB:, Leppitsch
C: Lappin
HF:
FF:, Bradshaw
R: Power, Matt Clark, Sherman
I/C:

[Warwick]

Well White and Sherman were my next 2, so i will go with:
Pick 23: Shaun Hart

Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):
FB:, Champion
HB:
C: , Hart,
HF:, Brown
FF:, Lynch (c)
R:, Buckley, Akermanis
Int:

[FattyLumpkin]

Then there are champion Bears such as Marty Leslie (SA SOO regular). Johnny Gastev, Gilbert McAdam, Banger Bain. Mark Zanotti (the latter 2 also got a gig at Fitzroy). I think W Capper just misses out!!:D

[Grimreepah]

You are proving to be a very helpful special comments man Fatty Lumpkin:thumbsu:

pick 24 Matthew Primus

I think that's my 3 non Brisbane Lions used up.

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert
pick 15 - Roger Merrett
pick 17 - Paul Roos
pick 24 - Matthew Primus

FB:
HB:, Paul Roos
C:, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:,R. Merrett
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:Primus

[Ashli]

Pick 3- Leppitsch
Pick 6 - Lappin
Pick 9 - Power
Pick 16 - Matt Clark
Pick 19: Daniel Bradshaw
Pick 22: Justin Sherman
Pick25: Jarrod Molloy (Can someone answer was he a hff/fp or a KPP fwd? it was one of the first two options wasnt it...)
FB:
HB:, Leppitsch
C: Lappin
HF: Molloy
FF:, Bradshaw
R: Power, Matt Clark, Sherman
I/C:

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert
pick 15 - Roger Merrett
pick 17 - Paul Roos
pick 24 - Matthew Primus
pick 26 - Martin Pike

FB:
HB:, Paul Roos
C:Pike, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:,R. Merrett
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:Primus

[Warwick]

Molloy could play anywhere in the forward line. I would play him in a FP, but potentially, he could hold down CHF in your team if you ran out of options.

[toddy]

ok welcome Craig Bolton to Team Toddy

[Warwick]

Pick 2: Jonathan Brown
Pick 7: Alastair Lynch
Pick 12: Jason Akermanis
Pick 13: Nathan Buckley
Pick 18: Richard Champion
Pick 23: Shaun Hart
Pick 28: Matthew Kennedy (that completes my spine)
Pick 29: Brad Boyd

Warwick's team (creative name in the R&D phase):
FB:, Champion
HB:, Kennedy
C: Boyd, Hart,
HF:, Brown
FF:, Lynch (c)
R:, Buckley, Akermanis
Int:

[toddy]

Brad Scott

[Grimreepah]

pick 1 - Michael Voss
pick 8 - Jamie Charman
pick 10 - Craig Lambert
pick 15 - Roger Merrett
pick 17 - Paul Roos
pick 24 - Matthew Primus
pick 26 - Martin Pike
pick 31 - Jason Roe

FB:, Roe
HB:, Paul Roos
C:Pike, Voss (c),
HF:
FF:,R. Merrett
R: Charman, Lambert
Int:Primus

[Ashli]

Pick 3- Leppitsch
Pick 6 - Lappin
Pick 9 - Power
Pick 16 - Matt Clark
Pick 19: Daniel Bradshaw
Pick 22: Justin Sherman
Pick25: Jarrod Molloy (Can someone answer was he a hff/fp or a KPP fwd? it was one of the first two wasnt it...
Pick 32: Jason Gram

FB:
HB: Gram , Leppitsch
C: Lappin
HF: Molloy
FF:, Bradshaw
R: Power, Matt Clark, Sherman
I/C:

[Warwick]

Two rounds completed.

First round:
1. Grimreepah - Michael Voss
2. Warwick - Jonathon Brown
3. Ashli - Justin Leppitsch
4. toddy - Mal Michael

5. toddy - Simon Black
6. Ashli - Nigel Lappin
7. Warwick - Alastair Lynch
8. Grimreepah - Jamie Charman

9. Ashli - Luke Power
10. Grimreepah - Craig Lambart
11. toddy - Clark Keating
12. Warwick - Jason Akermanis

13. Warwick - Nathan Buckley
14. toddy - Chris Johnson
15. Grimreepah - Roger Merrett
16. Ashli - Doc Clark

Second round:
17. Grimreepah - Paul Roos
18. Warwick - Richard Champion
19. Ashli - Daniel Bradshaw
20. toddy - Darryl White

21. toddy - Brad Hardie
22. Ashli - Justin Sherman
23. Warwick - Shaun Hart
24. Grimreepah - Matthew Primus

25. Ashli - Jared Molloy
26. Grimreepah - Martin Pike
27. toddy - Craig Bolton
28. Warwick - Matthew Kennedy

29. Warwick - Brad Boyd
30. toddy - Brad Scott
31. Grimreepah - Jason Roe
32. Ashli - Jason Gram

Still plenty of solid players up for grabs, but the end of the third, and the fourth round is going to be very interesting.