Forward line:

[The_Forgotten]

i tell you what i am getting excited about our new look forward line now with Spida on board to pinch hit up forward in the pocket with magic and schneider alongside with hall davis and okeefe patrolling the half forward line it makes for a menacing forward unit :)

[SouthSwans]

B: L Barry..............C Bolton.......k...T Richards
HB: B Mathews..L Roberts-Thomson..T Kennelly
C: A Buchanan.........B Kirk..............J Bolton
HF: N Davis......k.....B Hall..............R O'Keefe
F: P Everitt........M O'Loughlin........A Schneider
R: D Jolly,..............A Goodes,.........J McVeigh
INT: N Fosdike, J Crouch, N Malceski, L Ablett
EMG: S Dempster, S Doyle, H Grundy

Looks very, very good.

[swanniez1983]

Looks good on paper....just have to see if they misfire or not :thumbsu:

[is2SWaNz]

:):thumbsu:

I'm very excited. I don't know how well this is going to pan out, but if all goes well............:thumbsu:

and along with lil goalsneaks like Snides, Monty, Fosdike and McVeigh... woo

Bring on 2007!

I'm dying here!!! How long to go till the Ashes??????? I'm DYING i tells YA! stupid off season

[swannykicka]

unfortuneatly looking good on paper doesnt cut the mustard. I just hope your right and they look good in practice. I dont really agree that spida man is really gonna add a whole heap to teh forward line. Swans were pretty inconsistent last year, played well in patches of games and in patches of weeks, including the GF. Forward line needs to fire more consistently.

[Tedeski]

The Swans won't start slowly next year. They would be burning after losing that GF.
I actually think Spider will play mainly as a forward next year & do most of the forward ruck work that Barry Hall has done well in the past.
He will be a key part of keeping our forward pressure on the oppostion defences.
Just wait & see. Spider will play an important role in a subtle change to the way we play. I expect a 30 goal return from him next year.
One thing about Roos is that he knows how to get the most out of a player as far as playing disciplined football is concerned.
Perhaps we haven't seen the absolute best of Everitt yet.
If he can stay on the field & stick to the bloods ethic, I believe we'll get 4 great years out of him.
Cheers!

[natlovestheswans]

Nick Davis needs to work on his consistency and hopefully Micky can keep up his accurarcy from the finals.. because the rest of the year it was horrible. If those two things happen then our forward line will be unstoppable.

[is2SWaNz]

The Swans won't start slowly next year. They would be burning after losing that GF.
I actually think Spider will play mainly as a forward next year & do most of the forward ruck work that Barry Hall has done well in the past.
He will be a key part of keeping our forward pressure on the oppostion defences.
Just wait & see. Spider will play an important role in a subtle change to the way we play. I expect a 30 goal return from him next year.
One thing about Roos is that he knows how to get the most out of a player as far as playing disciplined football is concerned.
Perhaps we haven't seen the absolute best of Everitt yet.
If he can stay on the field & stick to the bloods ethic, I believe we'll get 4 great years out of him.
Cheers!

I agree.

However.... 4 years out of Spida?! :confused: less than 4...

[natlovestheswans]

I'd say more like 2 out of him.

[Cheer Red Blood]

FB:...Crouch...Barry...CBolton
HB:...Malceski...LRT...Kennelly
CE:...Ablett...JBolton...Goodes
HF:...Davis..Hall..O'Keefe
FF:...Everitt...O'Loughlin...Schneider
RU:..Jolly...Kirk...Buchanan
BE:..McVeigh..Richards..Fosdike..Doyle

No doubt Dempster and Mathews will be forced in somewhere.

Look for ten-fifteen games from Vogels and Grundy, hopefully the same from Moore, Schmidt has to play more than five.

[natlovestheswans]

FB:...Crouch...Barry...CBolton
HB:...Malceski...LRT...Dempster
CE:...Kennelly...JBolton...Goodes
HF:...Davis..Hall..O'Keefe
FF:...Everitt...O'Loughlin...Schneider
RU:..Jolly...Kirk...Buchanan
BE:..McVeigh..Richards..Fosdike..Doyle

No doubt Ablett and Mathews will be forced in somewhere.

Look for ten-fifteen games from Vogels and Grundy, hopefully the same from Moore, Schmidt has to play more than five.

Doyle won't be there.

[stellation]

Doyle won't be there.
I wouldn't be suprised if he was.

[natlovestheswans]

I wouldn't be suprised if he was.

I would, especially seeing in that team he posted above he didn't fit in Ablett or Dempster. I just can't see there being a post for him.

[Cheer Red Blood]

I would, especially seeing in that team he posted above he didn't fit in Ablett or Dempster. I just can't see there being a post for him.

Dempster is in the team actually.
But looking back at it, I'll move Kennelly back to the back flank (However much I do want him on a wing) and Ablett to where Kennelly was.
Drop Dempster to 23rd man.

On Doyle, last time Roos had three fit ruckman (Round one, 2005) he played all three - Doyle, Jolly and Ball. I can see the same happening with Spider.

[natlovestheswans]

Dempster is in the team actually.
But looking back at it, I'll move Kennelly back to the back flank (However much I do want him on a wing) and Ablett to where Kennelly was.
Drop Dempster to 23rd man.

On Doyle, last time Roos had three fit ruckman (Round one, 2005) he played all three - Doyle, Jolly and Ball. I can see the same happening with Spider.

Ah, right so he is. I think Mathews will have a spot at times, but i don't think he'll be able to hold a permanent position.

I guess there is a way in which Doyle can be in the team, but i can't see him holding the spot either.

[SouthSwans]

Doyle wont be in the side sadly, his last few weeks were excellent but with Spida in he wont get his chance. I reckon Roosy will play Benny for the majority of the year, just a feeling, Roosy likes him. Dempster will be 23rd man and Doyley will be thereabouts but won't play unless a ruckman gets injured.

[swannykicka]

roosy WILL play 3 ruckman, its what he wants and believes in, so he'll do it.
Davis is the key forward question mark i reckon. we have a good forward line weven without him, but with him (on the proviso that he is menacing enough) we have a great one. I dont expect to see much of Grundy or Schmidt next year, maybe the year after. Top 4 should be on the cards again. oh yeah.

* what do people reckon about leo barry? hes defineatly past his best, still good, but starting to show some cracking around the edges.

[natlovestheswans]

roosy WILL play 3 ruckman, its what he wants and believes in, so he'll do it.
Davis is the key forward question mark i reckon. we have a good forward line weven without him, but with him (on the proviso that he is menacing enough) we have a great one. I dont expect to see much of Grundy or Schmidt next year, maybe the year after. Top 4 should be on the cards again. oh yeah.

* what do people reckon about leo barry? hes defineatly past his best, still good, but starting to show some cracking around the edges.

Leo is getting older and subsequently slower, no doubt about it. He's still got another 2 years in him i'd say.

[music_2000]

:):thumbsu:

I'm very excited. I don't know how well this is going to pan out, but if all goes well............:thumbsu:

and along with lil goalsneaks like Snides, Monty, Fosdike and McVeigh... woo

Bring on 2007!

I'm dying here!!! How long to go till the Ashes??????? I'm DYING i tells YA! stupid off season

same, I have A-league and NBL but it doesn't compare to my beloved swans unfortunately. with the premiership window wide open bring on 2007

[Tuco]

same, I have A-league and NBL but it doesn't compare to my beloved swans unfortunately. with the premiership window wide open bring on 2007

Couldn't agree more. I went and saw Australia versus Meh-rain...after the fourth stretcher came out, the 2007 AFL season couldn't come around soon enough!!! :thumbsd:

And yes our forward line looks good on paper. Again. Fingers crossed. :thumbsu:

[scottwade]

* what do people reckon about leo barry? hes defineatly past his best, still good, but starting to show some cracking around the edges.
What struck me in the latter part of his season was his indecision when he had the ball. Now he was always a risk taker with the ball, but he seemed to continually run into dead ends late in the season. He also seemed totally unwilling to kick (admittedly he was always more a handballer than kick) and I wonder if he had a problem with his foot.
The other thing is the guy needs to have a break from the gorillas. Remember he started as a FP, so to earn AA as an undersized FB is a mighty effort.

[is2SWaNz]

Couldn't agree more. I went and saw Australia versus Meh-rain...after the fourth stretcher came out, the 2007 AFL season couldn't come around soon enough!!! :thumbsd:

And yes our forward line looks good on paper. Again. Fingers crossed. :thumbsu:

Tell me about it. Those friggen 'Meh-rain' players fall and injure themselves so easily. Its ridiculous and i couldn't agree more. After the 1 billionth time the stretcher came out.... i want the 2007 season to come!

I dyyying!!! The tri-nations are keeping me entertained and the Pura Cup is keeing me abit occupied. And oh... something called School too.

Bring on 2007! I want to see our forwards in action!

[swannykicka]

What struck me in the latter part of his season was his indecision when he had the ball.

yeah I agree, what was that about. Its very un-leo like. Although we had th e second best defence last year in terms of points against, I reckon 07 could be a surprise worry for us.

[natlovestheswans]

What struck me in the latter part of his season was his indecision when he had the ball. Now he was always a risk taker with the ball, but he seemed to continually run into dead ends late in the season. He also seemed totally unwilling to kick (admittedly he was always more a handballer than kick) and I wonder if he had a problem with his foot.
The other thing is the guy needs to have a break from the gorillas. Remember he started as a FP, so to earn AA as an undersized FB is a mighty effort.

That's why it's really important that we draft a real FB. I can't see LRT being able to do the job.

[strange]

Throwing it out there, what do you think about putting grundy or vogels at full back for a few games to see how they go, as unless we draft a big full back or CHB, defence could be an area for concern in the future.

[scottwade]

Throwing it out there, what do you think about putting grundy or vogels at full back for a few games to see how they go, as unless we draft a big full back or CHB, defence could be an area for concern in the future. I think Vogels has a good shot at it. Good height, size and athleticism. I'd like to see Roos bite the bullet and go for it as he did with LRT.

[swannykicka]

heres a surprise idea. what about Doyle at FB, big tall, can take a grab, apart from injury, maybe he could slide back and provide us with a competent tall in the backline, esp if he's gonna struggle to get a game over spida and JollY.

[swannykicka]

hell, i could even see seany dempster making a great FB

[scottwade]

heres a surprise idea. what about Doyle at FB, big tall, can take a grab, apart from injury, maybe he could slide back and provide us with a competent tall in the backline, esp if he's gonna struggle to get a game over spida and JollY.
Way way too immoblie. Can you imagine him against a Fevola, Lloyd, Pavlich etc?


hell, i could even see seany dempster making a great FB
Dempster an outside chance perhaps, but questionable size and strength one on one. Vogels is the one I'd like to see given a go.

[natlovestheswans]

Way way too immoblie. Can you imagine him against a Fevola, Lloyd, Pavlich etc?



For some reason i can see him falling over himself trying to chase one of them on their leads.

[is2SWaNz]

hell, i could even see seany dempster making a great FB

He can kick goals from the 80m. Freaks... hes a thumping long kicker.

For some reason i can see him falling over himself trying to chase one of them on their leads.

Not even.

I can see him running in slow motion.

[natlovestheswans]

He can kick goals from the 80m. Freaks... hes a thumping long kicker.



Not even.

I can see him running in slow motion.

.. and falling in slow motion.

Ah. ;[

[Wollongong Represent]

Is it just me, or do we have some sort of depth going on next year. There are kids in the two's who I believe would be playing footy at most other clubs. You wouldn't want to be a selector I'll give you the tip.

[natlovestheswans]

Is it just me, or do we have some sort of depth going on next year. There are kids in the two's who I believe would be playing footy at most other clubs. You wouldn't want to be a selector I'll give you the tip.

At other club who aren't trying to win a premiership, yes, maybe.

[Wollongong Represent]

Yeah that's a fair call. If I was in charge of recruiting I would already be off-loading some dead weight (and by dead I mean dead to us) and gaining extra picks so that we stay strong rather than going through a trough in the next 4-8 years. I hope we put ourselves in a position much like Adelaide, where we are still producing kids despite having a top heavy list. I'm probaby simplifying the process though.

[Cheer Red Blood]

Yeah that's a fair call. If I was in charge of recruiting I would already be off-loading some dead weight (and by dead I mean dead to us) and gaining extra picks so that we stay strong rather than going through a trough in the next 4-8 years. I hope we put ourselves in a position much like Adelaide, where we are still producing kids despite having a top heavy list. I'm probaby simplifying the process though.

You say we have depth, and then you say we have dead wood. Please be more specific about names.

[BrissoMash]

It does say on the Swans website that Grundy is a defender. Perhaps LRT might lose his spot???

Either way, I think he should be a regular somewhere, I think it's possible to stunt a players momentum and growth by dropping him back to the twos when he clearly has the talent for senior footy. Also, this MIGHT be the beginning of the end for Matthews and/or Crouch. There are some great young players (eg Dempster, Bevan) who can just as easily do the job... whadda ya think????

[scottwade]

It will be interesting to see what happens with Crouch and Mathews next year. Roos has always made it clear that they were automatic selections. I hope that outlook may change next year.
I believe McVeigh in a run with role offers far more as he is a better counter attacking option. Dempster's height provides added flexibility, although whether he can shut a player out of the game is probably debatable.
The danger is that all 4 play and that has the potential to increase the team's negativity.
I fear the pace of the game has passed Mathews by and Crouch simply doesn't get enough of the ball, or use it effectively when he does. He is only of value as a shut out player and then only on certain opponents. Bevan's extra height provides him with an advantage over Crouch, but I think Roos sees him as a back up player.

As for Grundy I don't think he'll ever make a defender. IMHO he doesn't have the pace or stamina. I honestly don't see him as a long term option as a KPP.