Announcement: 2nd lion's board game coming soon!

[Warwick]

Yes, the details are being finalised as we speak. A totally useless activity to pass the time, avoid the wife or husband, or use as a study break is coming soon to The Den.

If you missed out on the last trading game and thought you could have beaten Grim (i mean who couldn't), don't despair because this one will be bigger and better (although not as long which is a plus).

It is open to all - first time players, veteran coaches looking for revenge (looking at you toddy, Ashli, and Grimreepah), and Collingwood supporters*.

It is not the same game as the first one - it involves the national draft, a lion core group, 1500 points, and more twists than a packet of twisties. The winner (as judged by the rest of the lion's board), gets bragging rights and my personal thumbs up. :thumbsu:

Hopefully the rules will be up by tomorrow. Get excited! And nominate early to avoid disappointement.




*Note: not open to Collingwood supporters.

[John]

I'm excited.:D*




















* But then that is not hard to be at this moment, Man U 1 -0 up at half time and an open bottle of Penfolds Bin 128:D:D:D.

[CoZi36]

Awesome, i'm in! :)

[Grimreepah]

The sledging has begun I see.

[Warwick]

The game is spreading across the nation:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278619

[toddy]

As there is strong interest in this game ill only participate if numbers are required, give others a go to topple Warwick.

[crows98]

The game is spreading across the nation:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278619

Imitation is the best form of flattery, isn’t that what they say. :thumbsu:

[Warwick]

Imitation is the best form of flattery, isn’t that what they say. :thumbsu:
Just don't do a "Grimreepah" and pick players out of position. The rest of the board doesn't look kindly on that when casting their vote.

[toddy]

My suggestion dont pick a gun defence apparently it holds no value!!

[Grimreepah]

My suggestion dont pick a gun defence apparently it holds no value!!

Tell me about it:rolleyes:

It seems the way to go is to pick flashy outside receivers and forget about rucks and ball winners.

[Ashli]

Haha oooohhh... some old battle wounds are opening up again!

And the sledging is officially underway.

[toddy]

Toddy Re-signs

It appears after some support from his backers it is official Toddy has overturned his original decision to step down, and re-sign to help Team Toddy reclaim former glory in the new draft game beggining shortly. "The firm support shown by the anonymous support, and the ignition of the competitive flame was namely the reason behind the backflip", Toddy stated at his press conference. BF TAB has seen strong support for Team Toddy in the wake of this decision.

[Ashli]

Toddy Re-signs

It appears after some support from his backers it is official Toddy has overturned his original decision to step down, and re-sign to help Team Toddy reclaim former glory in the new draft game beggining shortly.

Reclaim former glory:p didn't you get the wooden spoon in the voting;) If you are going to write it as a news story you should atleast get your facts right:rolleyes:

[toddy]

I forgot to post Andrew Hamilton as the writer. Apologies to everyone for neglecting that fact.

[Grimreepah]

Toddy Re-signs

It appears after some support from his backers it is official Toddy has overturned his original decision to step down, and re-sign to help Team Toddy reclaim former glory in the new draft game beggining shortly. "The firm support shown by the anonymous support, and the ignition of the competitive flame was namely the reason behind the backflip", Toddy stated at his press conference. BF TAB has seen strong support for Team Toddy in the wake of this decision.

Good to hear Toddy:thumbsu:

Many will be happy, including spectators and rivals.

[Warwick]

Rules for the Brisbane Lions Board game II:

Intro: Think you have what it takes to be a draft scout for an AFL club? Are you able to unearth the next "big thing" with a low pick? Well this game will test your ability to draft a gun side from a combination of lion's legends and draftees from 95-05.

Aim: to build the best possible team of 22 as voted by the rest of the lion's board.

Rules:

Each scout is given 1500 player points (PP) at the start of the game.
All players have been given a ranking, depending on their value, or where they were picked up in the national draft.
There are two pools of players to pick from: the first draft will focus solely on Brisbane players (Core Lion Group). From the CLG, you must select at least 4 lion players for your team (max 8). The lion players are graded in 4 categories according to ability (i.e. the top teir of players are worth 120 PP, the next group are worth 75, than 50, and finally the last group of players are worth 25 PP).
The order of draft picks will be determined by random allocation (same as what happened for the last drafting game). If you only want to pick up the minimum of 4 lion players, you must pass on your 5th turn. Once you have passed, you can no longer pick up any Brisbane players for your team.
Once every team has picked their lion players, we have the second draft. This draft contains every player (minus Brisbane players) who were drafted in the national drafts of 1995 to 2005.
These players are also ranked. If the player went in the 1st round of his draft he is worth 120 PP. 2nd round, 3rd round, and 4th or higher picks are worth 75, 50, or 25 PP, respectively.
You can pick up any player from any draft (apart from lion players) with your turn to build your side of 22. However, you must pick a minimum of 1 player from every draft year, and you are only allowed to pick a maximum of 2 players from a particular year.
The draft order is once again random - although if you picked up 8 lion players, you obviously only get 14 selections.
The twist is this: every scout has good and bad years. Therefore, at the start of the game you are randomly allocated a "gun" draft and a "dud" draft. All players in your "gun draft" (i.e. say it is 1998) are worth 1/2 (i.e. 1st round selections = 60 PP). All players in your "dud draft" (say it is 2003) are worth double (i.e. 1st round selections = 240 PP).

[Warwick]

Obviously those rules are quite complex ^^^ but hopefully they make sense. We may not start the game for a while but i am calling on any other "scouts: to participate to pass the off-season. There are probably a few kinks in the rules that need to be ironed out, but i can work on that. I am also open to any questions.

I will take up the challenge again, toddy is in, Cozi seems game. Do we have any other challengers?

[Grimreepah]

Clear as mud:thumbsu:

[Warwick]

Clear as mud:thumbsu:
I knew you wouldn't get it. This game takes skill and strategy.

[Grimreepah]

I knew you wouldn't get it. This game takes skill and strategy.

You know, the more complicated the rules are the more it favours the rulemaker;)

[Warwick]

You know, the more complicated the rules are the more it favours the rulemaker;)
Excuses after we finish please.

[Grimreepah]

Nah, I'm just kidding. It sounds good. But maybe an abreviated dummy run might be helpful to help people fully understand the rules.

[Warwick]

Ok, say there are 4 competitors (Player 1, Player 2, Player 3, and Player 4).

We have the CLG draft first. I will list a group of around 50 lions players who you can pick for your team. It may look something like this (with some examples):

Group 1 - Voss, Leppitsch, Akermanis, Brown (all of these players would be worth 120 points)

Group 2 - Power, Charman, Sherman, Johnson (all worth 75 points)

Group 3 - Rischitelli, Keating, Drummond (all worth 50 points)

Group 4 - McDonald, McGrath, Roe (all worth 25 points).

Once again we have that scattered draft order:
Pick 1 - player 1
Pick 2 - player 2
Pick 3 - player 3
Pick 4 - player 4
Pick 5 - player 4
Pick 6 - player 3
Pick 7 - player 2
Pick 8 - player 1.

Now we keep going until every player has picked the lions players they want in their team (minimum 4, maximum 8). Some may only want 4 players to leave 18 selections in the draft. Some may want 8 lion players to get more votes, but it leaves them only 14 selections in the second draft).

Once that draft is completed, we calculate how many points you have left (i.e. say Player 1 picked up 5 lion players: Voss, Power, Charman, McGrath, and McDonald). This would add up to 320 player points. They therefore, have 1180 points left in the second draft.

We then have the second draft. At this stage, your "gun" and "dud" drafts are randomly allocated. Say Player 1's "gun" draft was 2001, and their "dud" draft was 2004. We have the same random order as before:

Pick 1 - player 1
Pick 2 - player 2
Pick 3 - player 3
Pick 4 - player 4
Pick 5 - player 4
Pick 6 - player 3
Pick 7 - player 2
Pick 8 - player 1.
Note: in this draft you are not allowed to pick any lion players. They must all be choosen in the first draft.

Now Player 1 can pick any player from any draft from 95-05. He/she must pick at least 1 player from every draft (with a max of 2 from one specific year). They may decide to pick up Judd (2001 draft) with their first pick. He would normally be worth 120 PP, however, because Player 1's "gun" draft was 2001, it only costs them 60 PP. They now have 1120 points left.

For their next pick (pick 8), this player may elect to pick up Henry Slattery from the 2004 draft. Slattery went in the third round so he is worth 50 points. However, because 2004 was player 1's "dud" year, Slattery is now worth 100 points. They are now left with 1020 points left.

So after these picks, Player 1 has 7 players (5 from the CLG draft and 2 from the National draft). They have 1020 points left to pick a further 15 players (around 70 points per player on average). Therefore, they can't afford to simply pick up 1st or 2nd round picks, they need to look for some bargins.

[Warwick]

The challenge is of course to decide when to pick up your bargin basement players who only cost you 25 points, and when to pick up your superstars who cost a lot more.

The "dud" and "gun" drafts make it a little more interesting.

[Grimreepah]

Clear as mud:thumbsu:

Actually I think I get it but obviously won't know for sure if I'm on the same wavelength until the game is underway. So we just keep picking players from the second draft until our list is complete (making sure we don't overspend), is that right?

I also had an idea for random allocation. Each person says a number between 1 and 26 (eg. person 1 = 15, person 2 = 9, person 3 = 7, person 4 = 12). We then look at the 15th thread, the ninth post, the seventh word and the 12th letter, and take the numerical equivalent of that letter, eg. a=1, b=2 etc, and whoever is closest gets to choose their position. (If for example thread 15 only has 7 posts, then you would look at the 2nd post into thread 16 and so on). Feel free to simplify this process if you can.

Anyway I want to let others have a go, but if there aren't any takers I will gladly join in.

[Warwick]

Clear as mud:thumbsu:

Actually I think I get it but obviously won't know for sure if I'm on the same wavelength until the game is underway. So we just keep picking players from the second draft until our list is complete (making sure we don't overspend), is that right?
Yeah. After we all have our lion players who can pick whoever you want from the drafts 95-05 ensuring:

you don't go over the 1500 limit, and
you take one player from each of the 11 drafts, but no more than 2.
I also had an idea for random allocation. Each person says a number between 1 and 26 (eg. person 1 = 15, person 2 = 9, person 3 = 7, person 4 = 12). We then look at the 15th thread, the ninth post, the seventh word and the 12th letter, and take the numerical equivalent of that letter, eg. a=1, b=2 etc, and whoever is closest gets to choose their position. (If for example thread 15 only has 7 posts, then you would look at the 2nd post into thread 16 and so on). Feel free to simplify this process if you can.
Yeah that sounds a much better way of doing it. We could also work out which years are the dud and gun years using a system like that.

Anyway I want to let others have a go, but if there aren't any takers I will gladly join in.
I think 4 or 5 would be a good number again otherwise it takes way too long. I wont be able to start it for a little while so i'll just leave it here for the time being.

[joshhem]

I think I'll give it a go, but if it means that Grim doesn't get a game, he can have my spot...

I must warn you, I am very good at this :rolleyes: :o

[Grimreepah]

I must warn you, I am very good at this :rolleyes: :o

As the BigFooty Lions Board's oldest member, you have first dibs.;)

[Warwick]

We might kick this off tomorrow if people are around.

[toddy]

Who is in so far?? Will do up a full TAB odds board.

[Warwick]

Well i'm in. I think the max we could have would be around 5.

Others to have lodged interest include Cozi, Grim and Joshem.

Btw - does anyone know where to get a list of all the drafts? I'm missing a couple.

[Grimreepah]

Who is in so far?? Will do up a full TAB odds board.

Warwick
Cozi
toddy
joshhem
Grim

Btw - does anyone know where to get a list of all the drafts? I'm missing a couple.

Here (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119091&highlight=1992) is a site that has all the drafts up to about year 2000. For years after that I just google eg 2002 afl draft and find the Wikipedia entry which has the full list.

[toddy]

DRAFT GAME-

TAB selects: Warwick

Late Mail: Joshhem

Name-------Odds-----Last 3 Starts......Weight
1. Warwick- $3.80.......X31..................59
2. Joshhem- $3.85.......___..................56
3 Toddy- $5.20.......004..................54.5
4. Grim- $5.20........043..................54.5
5. Cozi- $3.30........___..................53

Pools: Win.........Place.........Quinella
..........$2...........$0.............$0

**Prices may change when barrier draw (draft order) is done

[toddy]

Well i'm in. I think the max we could have would be around 5.

Others to have lodged interest include Cozi, Grim and Joshem.

Btw - does anyone know where to get a list of all the drafts? I'm missing a couple.

I think grim knows but is holding out on us!!

[Grimreepah]

DRAFT GAME-

TAB selects: Warwick

Late Mail: Joshhem

Warwick- $3.80
Joshhem- $3.85
Toddy- $5.20
Grim- $5.20
Cozi- $6.30

**Prices may change

Cozi was very keen, so that tells me she's pretty confident.

[toddy]

First start, no punter is sure of her form, which explains the outsider odds.

[Grimreepah]

First start, no punter is sure of her form, which explains the outsider odds.

Ok. I'll put two bob on Cozi then.

[Warwick]

Grim has taken the blinkers off and toddy has drawn a better barrier. That may tip the odds.

[Warwick]

Warwick
Cozi
toddy
joshhem
Grim



Here (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119091&highlight=1992) is a site that has all the drafts up to about year 2000. For years after that I just google eg 2002 afl draft and find the Wikipedia entry which has the full list.
I tried Wikipedia yesterday but they were missing a couple. That Bigfooty list has all the drafts, but not the rounds they went in.

[Grimreepah]

There will be no pussy footing around this time. I won't be choosing on principal, I'll be basing my selection strategy solely on my perception of what the public wants.

[toddy]

So Tony Liberatore should give up hopes of a KP??

[Grimreepah]

I tried Wikipedia yesterday but they were missing a couple.

Which ones are missing?

That Bigfooty list has all the drafts, but not the rounds they went in.

:confused:

It's not hard to work out.

[Warwick]

I am going for a guaranteed vote with my first pick.


Pick 1 Warwick: J. Sherman

[Warwick]

Which ones are missing?
95, 96 and 97.

It's not hard to work out.
Priority picks screw the order around. In some years there were 4, in others only 2 for example.

Btw a not for all: the rules state the players must be picked from the National draft (not the pre-season, zone selection, mid-season etc).

[Grimreepah]

So Tony Liberatore should give up hopes of a KP??

http://www.sportal.com.au/photos/news/087585news.jpg

[toddy]

Yes agreed but he did play at CHF!!

[Grimreepah]

95, 96 and 97.

Yep alright. I'd go with the link I provided then.

Priority picks screw the order around. In some years there were 4, in others only 2 for example.

Come on Warwick.:confused: If a team has pick 1 and pick 4 it's pretty obvious there are 3 priority picks. Then just keep adding 16.

BTW - do priority picks count as first round picks?

[Warwick]

Now, now. There will be plenty of time for that once the game starts. Look, the silver medal isn't bad. I mean, it is the first placed loser, but take baby steps.

[Warwick]

Yep alright. I'd go with the link I provided then.



Come on Warwick.:confused: If a team has pick 1 and pick 4 it's pretty obvious there are 3 priority picks. Then just keep adding 16.

BTW - do priority picks count as first round picks?
Yes. And don't blame me i'm stressed. It's much harder defending a title than winning one. You should kn... actually, no you wouldn't.

[toddy]

Word is toddy's track form has been good and is raring for next start.

[Grimreepah]

Yes agreed but he did play at CHF!!

Do you ever think it's odd when Carlton supporters troll?

[Warwick]

Word is toddy's track form has been good and is raring for next start.
He lept out of the gates backwards last start. I wouldn't count on it.

[toddy]

DRAFT GAME-

TAB selects: Warwick

Late Mail: Joshhem

Name-------Odds-----Last 3 Starts......Weight
1. Warwick- $3.80.......X31..................59
2. Joshhem- $3.85.......___..................56
3 Toddy- $5.20...........004..................54.5
4. Grim- $5.20............043..................54.5
5. Cozi- $3.30............___..................53

Pools: Win.........Place.........Quinella
..........$2...........$0.............$0

**Prices may change when barrier draw (draft order) is done



Warwick is carrying alot of weight!!

[toddy]

The longer distance suits me better.

[Warwick]

Warwick is carrying alot of weight!!
Bloody hell who am i carrying?

Grimus?

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/93/grimusxn6.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Warwick]

Come on Warwick.:confused: If a team has pick 1 and pick 4 it's pretty obvious there are 3 priority picks. Then just keep adding 16.

BTW - do priority picks count as first round picks?
You did factor in trades with this didn't you?

[toddy]

http://www.biwook.net/gallery/funny-****/fat-boy-on-small-moto.jpg

No this!

[Grimreepah]

You did factor in trades with this didn't you?

No. What does that have to do with which round the draft pick is?

[toddy]

damn thing!

[Warwick]

No. What does that have to do with which round the draft pick is?
I got ya. Never mind.

To joshhem and Cozi: If you guys are still interested in playing or not, just reply in this thread, and i can get the ball rolling.

[Warwick]

damn thing!
It wasn't a picture of a fat boy on a small motobike was it?

[toddy]

yes it was

[Grimreepah]

working beautifully toddy:p

[Grimreepah]

To joshhem and Cozi: If you guys are still interested in playing or not, just reply in this thread, and i can get the ball rolling.

If they're not here by 2:00am they're obviously not interested, and we should start without them.

[toddy]

agreed

[toddy]

I think we could do the draft order.

[Grimreepah]

I think we could do the draft order.

Good call. We can also allocate which drafts are the good and dud drafts for each person. Is Warwick still awake?

[toddy]

Maybe i should call his house and wake everyone up, as is the importance of this!!

[Grimreepah]

Maybe i should call his house and wake everyone up, as is the importance of this!!

It's not looking good. I'm off. I'll catch ya tomorrow (er later today) toddy:)

[toddy]

soft grim!! haha cya mate

[joshhem]

I'm here....

[joshhem]

DRAFT GAME-

TAB selects: Warwick

Late Mail: Joshhem

Name-------Odds-----Last 3 Starts......Weight
1. Warwick- $3.80.......X31..................59
2. Joshhem- $3.85.......___..................56
3 Toddy- $5.20...........004..................54.5
4. Grim- $5.20............043..................54.5
5. Cozi- $3.30............___..................53

Pools: Win.........Place.........Quinella
..........$2...........$0.............$0

**Prices may change when barrier draw (draft order) is done



Warwick is carrying alot of weight!!

I'm putting $3 on Cozi :) Always back the favourite

[Warwick]

I think we could do the draft order.
It is a lot harder to do up a fair draft order with 5 people. How does this sound:

team 1
team 2
team 3
team 4
team 5

team 3
team 4
team 5
team 2
team 1

team 5
team 1
team 4
team 3
team 2

team 4
team 5
team 2
team 1
team 3

team 2
team 3
team 1
team 5
team 4

Ok, we need a way of figuring out who is who just like we did last time. Also the Core Lions Group is:

Category 1 (120 PP): Michael Voss, Justin Leppitsch, Nigel Lappin, Alastair Lynch, Jason Akermanis, Simon Black, Mal Michael, Jonathan Brown.

Category 2 (75 PP): Shaun Hart, Chris Johnson, Luke Power, Marcus Ashcroft, Clark Keating, Daniel Bradshaw, Jamie Charman, Justin Sherman, Mitch Clark, Jed Adcock.

Category 3 (50 PP): Craig McRae, Martin Pike, Chris Scott, Darryl White, Richard Champion, Brad Scott, Craig Lambert, Brad Boyd, Adrian Fletcher, Brett Voss, Michael Rischitelli, Josh Drummond, Jason Roe, Cheynee Stiller, Richard Hadley, Michael McLean, Des Headland.

Category 4 (25 PP): Matthew Kennedy, Tim Notting, Robert Copeland, Beau McDonald, Blake Caracella, Jarrod Molloy, Ashley McGrath, Matthew Clark, Aaron Shattock, Steven Lawrence, Jared Brennan, Adam Heuskes, Troy Selwood, Shane O’Bree, Anthony Corrie, Matthew Moody, Damien Cupido, Rhan Hooper, Joel Patfull, Daniel Merrett, Cameron Wood, Scott Harding.


There are about 60 players here, so around 20 extras (5x8 = 40 max selections). The order is not exactly what they may be worth (there would probably be a few more in the top couple of categories), but i did it like that to allow everyone to pick up a few lions players. The younger players are also more expensive as you can see. This was done on purpose because as we saw during voting for the last game, there are a few young'uns on this board who have a very short memory and tend to pick the side they recognise the most names. :p

The point of this is that there are some cheaper players that you may like to pick up, or you could risk your luck and save picks for the national draft.

If you really think a certain player belongs elsewhere, let me know and i will change it. Also, if a former Brisbane player is not on the list, but was drafted by another team before or after they played for the lions, you have every right to pick them up. But if they are on this list - this is the only opportunity you have of drafting them.

I will check this board again at around 1pm to see if Cozi has seen this thread. I will start a new thread when the game begins - we could work out the draft order + dud and gun drafts in this thread.

[Grimreepah]

It is a lot harder to do up a fair draft order with 5 people. How does this sound:

team 1
team 2
team 3
team 4
team 5

team 3
team 4
team 5
team 2
team 1

team 5
team 1
team 4
team 3
team 2

team 4
team 5
team 2
team 1
team 3

team 2
team 3
team 1
team 5
team 4

IMO 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1

is the fairest and simplest system.

[Warwick]

IMO 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1

is the fairest and simplest system.
Works for me.

Now how are we going to work out the order and draft years?

[Grimreepah]

Works for me.

Now how are we going to work out the order and draft years?

Perhaps we could create a post with random numbers (where each number, or should I say year, is equally represented). Then we use a modification of the random allocation method previously described.

Does this make sense?

Alternatively we could choose our own good and bad drafts.

[joshhem]

Alternatively we could choose our own good and bad drafts.


Random is best. I'd hate to kill my team before I had even started to pick players yet...

[joshhem]

This place might help with the random number generation:

http://www.random.org/sform.html

[Grimreepah]

This place might help with the random number generation:

http://www.random.org/sform.html

Good one.

Might need an independent person to do it though.

[Grimreepah]

Bugger it. I'll do it.

[Grimreepah]

The order is team 1 good, team 1 dud, team 2 good, team 2 bad, etc.

Results (http://www.random.org/cgi-bin/randseq?min=1995&max=2004)

Team 1: Good = 1999, Dud = 2004
Team 2: Good = 1996, Dud = 1997
Team 3: Good = 1998, Dud = 1995
Team 4: Good = 2002, Dud = 2003
Team 5: Good = 2000, Dud = 2001

Now to rank the 5 contestants...

[joshhem]

The order is team 1 good, team 1 dud, team 2 good, team 2 bad, etc.

Results (http://www.random.org/cgi-bin/randseq?min=1995&max=2004)

Team 1: Good = 1999, Dud = 2004
Team 2: Good = 1996, Dud = 1997
Team 3: Good = 1998, Dud = 1995
Team 4: Good = 2002, Dud = 2003
Team 5: Good = 2000, Dud = 2001

Now to rank the 5 contestants...


:) Your link gives a new random number generation every time :D

[Grimreepah]

:) Your link gives a new random number generation every time :D

I hadn't thought of that. :rolleyes: Not that it matters.

[Warwick]

Ok good one. Now we need to rank the teams. How are we going to do that? Explain your system again Grim.

Team 5's dud draft in 2001. :D They aint gonna be happy.

[Grimreepah]

Ok good one. Now we need to rank the teams. How are we going to do that? Explain your system again Grim.

Team 5's dud draft in 2001. :D They aint gonna be happy.

Ideally an independent/neutral person should rank the teams (using joshhem's random number website).

[Warwick]

Well what if we go in alphabetical order for that random website:

Cozi (between 1-20)
Grimreepah (21-40)
joshhem (41-60)
toddy (61-80)
Warwick (81-100)

So a neutral person generates numbers between 1 and 100, they post the results on this page, and we determine the teams that way. Say for example the results were:

24 - Grim Team 1
82 - Warwick Team 2
16 - Cozi Team 3
43 - joshhem team 4
69 - toddy team 5

Ill find a neutral BigFooty poster, just a sec.

[Grimreepah]

Well what if we go in alphabetical order for that random website:

Cozi (between 1-20)
Grimreepah (21-40)
joshhem (41-60)
toddy (61-80)
Warwick (81-100)

So a neutral person generates numbers between 1 and 100, they post the results on this page, and we determine the teams that way. Say for example the results were:

24 - Grim Team 1
82 - Warwick Team 2
16 - Cozi Team 3
43 - joshhem team 4
69 - toddy team 5

Ill find a neutral BigFooty poster, just a sec.

Yep. I was thinking numbers 1 to 5 instead of 1 to 100, but same thing. How many aliases do you currently use Warwick?

[Warwick]

Yep. I was thinking numbers 1 to 5 instead of 1 to 100, but same thing. How many aliases do you currently use Warwick?
Just the three.

I've asked philhawk to view this page.

Ok phil if you are there can you please go to that random numbers site and generate an order of numbers 1-5 and post the results. It would be much appreciated! I don't trust Grimreepah.

http://www.random.org/sform.html

[philhawk]

Righto, give me a second.

[philhawk]

If you mean generating numbers between 1 - 5, then I got,


2
5
1
4
3


Is that what you meant, or did you want it between other numbers?

[Warwick]

That will do great. Thanks philhawk!! Much appreciated. :p

Ok the draft order is:

Team 1: Grimreepah
Team 2: Warwick
Team 3: Cozi
Team 4: toddy
Team 5: joshhem.

If i remember correctly, the existing players have the same teams from the last game. Maybe an omen. ;)

Edit: I forgot about the draft years.

Team 1: Good = 1999, Dud = 2004
Team 2: Good = 1996, Dud = 1997
Team 3: Good = 1998, Dud = 1995
Team 4: Good = 2002, Dud = 2003
Team 5: Good = 2000, Dud = 2001

I'll get philhawk to do the same thing. We are in alphabetical order again:
1. Cozi
2. Grimreepah
3. joshhem
4. toddy
5. Warwick

and the order determines which set of draft years you get.

[Grimreepah]

I'll get philhawk to do the same thing.

Oh...

I had presumed team 1 would be team 1, team 2 = team 2, etc.

[joshhem]

Ok the draft order is:

Team 1: Grimreepah
Team 2: Warwick
Team 3: Cozi
Team 4: toddy
Team 5: joshhem.


um, Warwick how did you get that? It doesn't match up with alphabetical order and phil's numbers....

[Warwick]

Oh ok, i see. Then the final teams are:

Team 1: Grimreepah (gun draft = 1999, dud draft = 2004).
Team 2: Warwick (gun draft = 1996, dud draft = 1997).
Team 3: Cozi (gun draft = 1998, dud draft = 1995).
Team 4: toddy (gun draft = 2002, dud draft = 2003)
Team 5: joshhem (gun draft = 2000, dud draft = 2001).

Well we can't do much more until everyone gets on. I'll start the official thread now. Me and you can have our first picks anyway Grim. It might be harder to have all 5 on at the same time, so it may be scattered in parts.

[Warwick]

um, Warwick how did you get that? It doesn't match up with alphabetical order and phil's numbers....
Alphabetical order:
1. Cozi
2. Grimreepah
3. Joshhem
4. toddy
5. Warwick

Phil's numbers:
2
5
1
4
3

Therefore the order is:
1. Grimreepah (2)
2. Warwick (5)
3. Cozi (1)
4. toddy (4)
5. joshhem (3)

Does everyone follow?

[joshhem]

That's a bit backwards, but I guess you're the rules man...

[toddy]

Joshhem's price will go down now surely!

[Grimreepah]

Well I'm happy with the draw I have been given, but if anyone is uncomfortable with the process we can do it again.

[joshhem]

I'm happy - it's completely random

[Warwick]

What part are people confused about? (Don't mention the entire process).

I'm happy to do it again if needs be but it will be just as random the next time. Does anyone want it done again or are we happy to continue?

The order should be perfectly fair, it just continues to go: 1 2 3 4 5 5 4 3 2 1 until we finish. Therefore, team 5 gets their 2 picks before everyone else.

The drafts were decided by a random number cruncher, as was the draft order.

Btw, if you think this is tough, have a look at how the Adelaide board is playing their game. It just continues in order, ie. 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 5