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Why dont we?
I know a few among us already put their hands in their pockets and do sponsor players...but what about the rest of us?
And can we come to some agreement? :p Maybe an interstate recruit so there is no SANFL bias.
Can we get some info from the Mods or Chief on how to go about this and get it up and running for 2007
Mad Dog
28 Oct 2006, 15:25
I think it's a great idea in principle.....
I know a couple of the other Boards do it.
I might ask one of the Mods to provide some info.....:thumbsu:
What does it actually do?
RoosterLad
28 Oct 2006, 15:26
For some players it helps fuel their addictions.
maccas_no1
28 Oct 2006, 17:02
I'd be up for that, think player sponership generally is around $800 a year dont quote me on that, so if you got say 10-15 people it wouldnt cost that much per person and I think as a reward BF should allow those people to have free membership for a year:thumbsu:
Stiffy_18
28 Oct 2006, 17:07
I'd be up for that, think player sponership generally is around $800 a year dont quote me on that, so if you got say 10-15 people it wouldnt cost that much per person and I think as a reward BF should allow those people to have free membership for a year:thumbsu:
When we were considering player sponsorship with the AFC, it was around $3000 per season and you didn't have a choice of player and you were not going to get a captain.
Team sponsorship is half the price but gets you slightly less than a player sponsorship.
Its a fair bit dearer than $800 and as I understand it, those sponsorships are hard to get at the AFC.
I'd be up for that, think player sponership generally is around $800 a year dont quote me on that, so if you got say 10-15 people it wouldnt cost that much per person and I think as a reward BF should allow those people to have free membership for a year:thumbsu:
That has been confirmed on the suggestions page ( where I got the idea :o )
Stiffy_18
28 Oct 2006, 17:33
Player Sponsorship Details - 2006 Season (http://afc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/250340aw.pdf)
Thanks Stiffy
$1,150 for a single entity and apparently BF kick in $200 so $950 to go
I can do $50-$100 if anyone wants to join in
I'm going to throw it out there, why?
Stiffy_18
28 Oct 2006, 17:48
Thanks Stiffy
$1,150 for a single entity and apparently BF kick in $200 so $950 to go
I can do $50-$100 if anyone wants to join in
Thats $1,150 for additional single membership. As I understand it, player sponsorship caters for 2 people. You can't get a single ticket. In other words if there are 3 people in the family and all 3 want to be team sponsors then they would pay $2,450 + $1,150 = $3600. If only a single person wants to purchase this sponsorship he/she still pays $2,450 but gets 2 memberships.
You can't get a player sponsorship for only $1,150 ;)
maccas_no1
28 Oct 2006, 18:03
Holy jeezus, sorry stiffy I was thinking of the packages they offer Victorian members:o Well we need just about everyone from this board to get involved as I said Im keen:thumbsu:
Thats $1,150 for additional single membership. As I understand it, player sponsorship caters for 2 people. You can't get a single ticket. In other words if there are 3 people in the family and all 3 want to be team sponsors then they would pay $2,450 + $1,150 = $3600. If only a single person wants to purchase this sponsorship he/she still pays $2,450 but gets 2 memberships.
You can't get a player sponsorship for only $1,150 ;)
Oops :o
I'm going to throw it out there, why?
Good question
To show that we are not all talk...to show that we do have a commitment to the AFC..to help a new recruit know he will be bagged then instantly recognised as a future star before he gets bagged on the way out.
maccas_no1
28 Oct 2006, 18:08
Maybe we could email the club with a proposal and they could put something together for us???
McLeod23
28 Oct 2006, 18:34
What does it actually do though?
Where does all that money go?
Maybe it pays for our recruiting team's nice hotels and brunches during trade week...
The Old Dark Navy's
28 Oct 2006, 19:16
Speaking from a Carlton sponsorship point of view. The money goes to the club not the player. We have two levels of sponsorship per player, player partner and player sponsor. With the higher level, you get a few extra things like advertising for a company (if you are one) and a player appearance at your workplace or social event.
For the player sponsor level, we got Josh Kennedy for $1995. This netted us two invitations to the guernsey presentation dinner, two invitations to another function, a signed guernsey and two gold memberships. We do a free raffle for the goodies amongst the contributors, put the sponsor title under their username and anyone who pays over $20 gets a free BigFooty subscription. We always donate our memberships to the Starlight Foundation and last year made a young girl's wish come true in doing so. It's a real feel good thing to do.
Basically all players are sponsored at two levels and that sponsor can extend the sponsorsip every year for the rest of their career if they want to. When you get in for the first time, you are competing with other prospective sponsors and existing sponsors for the remaining players AND the new draftees. Top 10 picks cost more to sponsor than late picks or rookies. For memory TBV was able to sponsor Daniel Batson as a rookie for about $800 or something so lower level sponsorships are available.
If your player gets delisted, you and other sponsors of delisted players then get first choice of new or lapsed players before new sponsors. So TBV had Karl Norman and Daniel Batson, then when Norman was delisted, we let the Batson one go and we and existing sponsors had the first choice of the new draftees. We asked for either pick 1 or pick 4 last year and after the draft, the club offered Josh Kennedy. We are hoping to be associated with Josh for the duration of his career which should be lengthy.
All from individual contributions between $25 and $100 plus $200 startup from BigFooty which is offered up for all player sponsorships.
Give it a go, gives you are real sense of being part of the club.
Cheers TODN
This netted us two invitations to the guernsey presentation dinner, two invitations to another function, a signed guernsey and two gold memberships. We do a free raffle for the goodies amongst the contributors, put the sponsor title under their username and anyone who pays over $20 gets a free BigFooty subscription. We always donate our memberships to the Starlight Foundation and last year made a young girl's wish come true in doing so. It's a real feel good thing to do.
So each raffle is a separate issue? And does the raffle money go to the Charity?
The Old Dark Navy's
28 Oct 2006, 19:35
So each raffle is a separate issue? And does the raffle money go to the Charity?Raffles are separate but there is no extra money involved. Anyone who contributes to the sponsorship goes into the draw. Basically $25-49 gets one entry, $50-99 gets two entries, $100-149 gets 3 entries ... and so forth. I am the contact person for our sponsorship so I just ask contributors if they are available for the functions and put the interested names in a hat and get someone to draw it out. I am never in the draw so it is kept above board. I make sure that people don't win the tickets and give them away or onsell them though as they are representing TBV and BigFooty at these functions, so we don't want outsiders that could act badly and risk our sponsorship with the club.
just maybe
29 Oct 2006, 19:04
Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Giving our hard earned money to the Club when they're loaded with cash as it is, so they can throw a few cheap morsels our way.
Mad Dog
29 Oct 2006, 19:29
Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Giving our hard earned money to the Club when they're loaded with cash as it is, so they can throw a few cheap morsels our way.
so don't get involved then......;)
lozstar
30 Oct 2006, 00:34
Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Giving our hard earned money to the Club when they're loaded with cash as it is, so they can throw a few cheap morsels our way.
can never have too much money :p
Kristof
30 Oct 2006, 00:50
Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Giving our hard earned money to the Club when they're loaded with cash as it is, so they can throw a few cheap morsels our way.
What a ridiculous comment. Yeah, let's do nothing to support the club, because the last thing we want is for them to be successful. It is not like the Crows are the Yankees - having more money that North Melbourne should hardly be considered the definition of success. It's like having better hair than Sideshow Bob.
Sounds like a ridiculous idea. Giving our hard earned money to the Club when they're loaded with cash as it is, so they can throw a few cheap morsels our way.
So I can count you out?
I'm with Just Maybe, you already pay a membership fee and you owe the club no more. They are loaded and this virtually amounts to giving away money, I'm not in the habit of giving away money to rich organisations. At least the proper sponsors get something out of it, this has virtually no reward.
But don't let me stop you, would probably be better to donate to your local club or something. They'd love any injection of cash.
Kristof
30 Oct 2006, 08:04
But don't let me stop you, would probably be better to donate to your local club or something. They'd love any injection of cash.
Of course, if you have a local club that you support and have a loyalty to, then you should donate your money there. But I support the Crows.
I don't really understand the idea of drawing a line about where your support ends. If you think your money is being wasted, that is a different thing, I suppose. But if your money brings your team more chance of success, don't you share in that?
I suppose being a student with $20 in the bank puts me in a different position than many here. I want the team to be successful but not to the point where I'm just going to give them money.
Dont see much validity in this...
just maybe
30 Oct 2006, 10:17
Of course, if you have a local club that you support and have a loyalty to, then you should donate your money there. But I support the Crows.
I don't really understand the idea of drawing a line about where your support ends. If you think your money is being wasted, that is a different thing, I suppose. But if your money brings your team more chance of success, don't you share in that?
Not when the club is already loaded to the gills with cash. Don't be ridiculous.
Fine, buy a membership. But an expensive "sponsorship" of a player so you can get a couple of morsels from the club? Why don't you just go give Telstra the money. I mean, you use their phone lines, I'm sure they'd appreciate it too.
JM has anyone told you to dig into your pocket? No so stfu . Ok you dont want to do it no biggie thats all you needed to say.
Although the money doesn't go directly to the player sponsored, the player benefits from having state of the art facilities and equipment, highly qualified persons around the club from the dietician to the physio etc etc. Every little bit of funding assists in making a successful club.
Most local clubs ask their players to find a sponsor to assist in ensuring equipment is up to date and engaging guests speakers throughout the year. These clubs would not survive without player sponsors and club sponsors.
crows98
30 Oct 2006, 10:47
I read this threat Saturday and wasn’t all that keen to support it because I had the idea in my head that I was already doing my little bit by being a gold member so why should I increase my financial distribution. After reading the last few post it dawned on me that we as a club and as a sport we cannot stop building and continuing to be the best we can possibly be (Sorry unintentional 2nd quote of an American president)
To paraphrase the 35th president of the United States of America John F Kennedy “and so, my fellow Adelaide Crows Fans: ask not what your club can do for you - ask what you can do for your club. My fellow citizens of Big Footy: ask not what the Adelaide Football Club will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man”.
If the AFC big Footy board decided to sponsor a player I would be very happy to contribute and add my $50 to sponsoring a player.
At the moment we are a big fish in a very small pond, as a club we are very small in comparison to some of the big time football, baseball and basketball clubs around the world (Manchester United, Real Madrid, Chicago Bulls, New York Yankees) so as a support of this football club we have to sometime go beyond expectations to continue to develop the football club.
crows98
30 Oct 2006, 10:52
What happened to my other post in this threat? It didn’t defame anyone or try and flame a war between any parties. Not happy Jan :eek:
Anyone who decides to post on any forum has freedom of speech, even if we don’t like what is being said at all times. Cohesion to follow a party line is sometime called communism. Has Big Footy come to stage of a communistic society?
maccas_no1
30 Oct 2006, 10:56
People who dont want to get involved do not need to post in this thread, this is for people who want to get involved, and those that dont want to get involved also seem to be negetive in other aspects towards the AFC which doesnt surprise me:rolleyes:
maccas_no1
30 Oct 2006, 10:57
What happened to my other post in this threat? It didn’t defame anyone or try and flame a war between any parties. Not happy Jan :eek:
Anyone who decides to post on any forum has freedom of speech, even if we don’t like what is being said at all times. Cohesion to follow a party line is sometime called communism. Has Big Footy come to stage of a communistic society?
You missed my corkerbefore it got deleted, but I understand why mine did:p
Mad Dog
30 Oct 2006, 10:58
What happened to my other post in this threat? It didn’t defame anyone or try and flame a war between any parties. Not happy Jan :eek:
Anyone who decides to post on any forum has freedom of speech, even if we don’t like what is being said at all times. Cohesion to follow a party line is sometime called communism. Has Big Footy come to stage of a communistic society?
Settle petal
A post was removed due to it's questionable content........together with any posts that quoted it or refered to it.........standard.
Ball. Not. Player.
;)
crows98
30 Oct 2006, 11:03
Settle petal
A post was removed due to it's questionable content........together with any posts that quoted it or refered to it.........standard.
Ball. Not. Player.
;)
Hang on whilst I grab a glass of water so I can take my chill pill :D
That's better
I didn’t realist all of the post got deleted so I humbly apologize MD.
just maybe
30 Oct 2006, 18:38
I read this threat Saturday and wasn’t all that keen to support it because I had the idea in my head that I was already doing my little bit by being a gold member so why should I increase my financial distribution. After reading the last few post it dawned on me that we as a club and as a sport we cannot stop building and continuing to be the best we can possibly be (Sorry unintentional 2nd quote of an American president)
To paraphrase the 35th president of the United States of America John F Kennedy “and so, my fellow Adelaide Crows Fans: ask not what your club can do for you - ask what you can do for your club. My fellow citizens of Big Footy: ask not what the Adelaide Football Club will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man”.
If the AFC big Footy board decided to sponsor a player I would be very happy to contribute and add my $50 to sponsoring a player.
At the moment we are a big fish in a very small pond, as a club we are very small in comparison to some of the big time football, baseball and basketball clubs around the world (Manchester United, Real Madrid, Chicago Bulls, New York Yankees) so as a support of this football club we have to sometime go beyond expectations to continue to develop the football club.
The AFC is not a country. What a terrible comparison. When the AFC starts providing infrastructure, health and education to me for my membership money, then I'll accept your quote.
Until then they're a rich private company and I think this kind of money-grubbing is appalling.
My Telstra analogy is far more appropriate.
Full Logic
30 Oct 2006, 20:07
Not when the club is already loaded to the gills with cash. Don't be ridiculous.
Fine, buy a membership. But an expensive "sponsorship" of a player so you can get a couple of morsels from the club? Why don't you just go give Telstra the money. I mean, you use their phone lines, I'm sure they'd appreciate it too.
agree with your 1st and 2nd post.
maccas_no1
30 Oct 2006, 20:26
The AFC is not a country. What a terrible comparison. When the AFC starts providing infrastructure, health and education to me for my membership money, then I'll accept your quote.
Until then they're a rich private company and I think this kind of money-grubbing is appalling.
My Telstra analogy is far more appropriate.
Its purely an idea for people here to put some money behind a player, you have choosen not to want to be a part of it, thats your choice and now allow people who do want to get behind it do that, whether the AFC is rich or poor shouldnt matter how they support the AFC.
All I hear is negetive crap come out of you day in day out, time to give it a rest.
Mad Dog
30 Oct 2006, 21:33
These posts are a mix of on-topic argument :thumbsu: ....and personal abuse......:thumbsd: ...
Can we just try and stick to the argument bit ?
just maybe
30 Oct 2006, 21:38
These posts are a mix of on-topic argument :thumbsu: ....and personal abuse......:thumbsd: ...
Can we just try and stick to the argument bit ?
Are you asking for Pele, MD? :eek:
crows98
31 Oct 2006, 08:07
The AFC is not a country. What a terrible comparison. When the AFC starts providing infrastructure, health and education to me for my membership money, then I'll accept your quote.
Until then they're a rich private company and I think this kind of money-grubbing is appalling.
My Telstra analogy is far more appropriate.
So I can assume that this rich privet company will not be getting your support in form of a membership next year JM? After all with 50,000 supporters why do they need your $381 surly that could go to a better charitable organization? UNICEF or WWF (World Wildlife Foundation)
Then again maybe you should just go and buy a few hundred dollars of T3 shares and give your money to Telstra.
A membership is paying to get to games, paying for entertainment. Very different to just giving money away.
crows98
31 Oct 2006, 08:58
A membership is paying to get to games, paying for entertainment. Very different to just giving money away.
How?
Sponsoring a player would get you other fringe benefits that a sliver member doesn’t get just as a gold member gets a little bit more again.
It’s simply a person preference whether you wish to spend your money in that fashion.
just maybe
31 Oct 2006, 09:18
So I can assume that this rich privet company will not be getting your support in form of a membership next year JM? After all with 50,000 supporters why do they need your $381 surly that could go to a better charitable organization? UNICEF or WWF (World Wildlife Foundation)
Then again maybe you should just go and buy a few hundred dollars of T3 shares and give your money to Telstra.
Yep, most probably. I haven't been getting enough value from your membership, and your suggestion has put that reality back into my mind. Excellent idea.
Blue Red and Gold
1 Nov 2006, 18:20
Not a bad idea, but as an apprentice I cannot afford such a thing, when the "benifits" are not that great.
Personally I think its a waste of money, it may help smaller, less financed clubs but for us it just isnt needed.
I am also a bit suprised that it costs so much, its not like the regular person can afford so much money a year.
Stiffy_18
1 Nov 2006, 18:29
Not a bad idea, but as an apprentice I cannot afford such a thing, when the "benifits" are not that great.
Personally I think its a waste of money, it may help smaller, less financed clubs but for us it just isnt needed.
I am also a bit suprised that it costs so much, its not like the regular person can afford so much money a year.
I don't think its aimed at a regular person.
It aimed at businesses or well paid professionals. If a business bought any sort of sponsorship from the club, its tax dedictable for them so really they are getting something insted of giving the money to the goverment.
Blue Red and Gold
1 Nov 2006, 18:51
I don't think its aimed at a regular person.
It aimed at businesses or well paid professionals. If a business bought any sort of sponsorship from the club, its tax dedictable for them so really they are getting something insted of giving the money to the goverment.
Yeah, well that annoys me to be honost because there should be something available for smaller business'
They shouldnt just cater for the rich, there are many people out there who would love to do something like this but they do not even have the option.
Stiffy_18
1 Nov 2006, 19:10
Yeah, well that annoys me to be honost because there should be something available for smaller business'
They shouldnt just cater for the rich, there are many people out there who would love to do something like this but they do not even have the option.
Smaller businesses can have Team Sponsorship which was $1,560 for 2006 season. Its still tax deductable for a business.