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The Sheik of Tweak seems to be struggling for form on a spin friendly deck.
Granted, there's still a tail to clean up and he's the best in the business, but does anyone else think that Shane might be a touch under done leading into a big Aussie summer?
He'll undoubtedly rise to the occasion on the test stage, but it's not the kind of lead up he would have hoped for.
usalion
17 Nov 2006, 08:00
Gets to play on one of his happiest hunting grounds next week at the Gabba- once he gets to a place where the curators actually do something to make the game a contest between bat and ball, he'll be right.
That place aint Victoria
skipper kelly
17 Nov 2006, 08:01
The Sheik of Tweak seems to be struggling for form on a spin friendly deck.
Granted, there's still a tail to clean up and he's the best in the business, but does anyone else think that Shane might be a touch under done leading into a big Aussie summer?
He'll undoubtedly rise to the occasion on the test stage, but it's not the kind of lead up he would have hoped for.
Hes just rolling the arm over.
judburyjets
17 Nov 2006, 08:09
He'll be fine, just getting some overs in before the serious stuff begins. Apparently he bowled quite well though, George Bailey was quoted in the paper down here saying that its the best Warne has ever bowled to him, and that he had no idea most of the time, and was very lucky to survive. Also, he didn't have McGrath bowling at the other end to tighten it up, he had Denton, Moss, McDonald and White, which makes a big difference.
Moss has bowled superbly, for the record.
Coin_Toss
17 Nov 2006, 08:37
As you said Zeke, he's a touch under done and this practice should do him the world of good. So far he's bowled solidly, touch wood.
Bombers_Forever
17 Nov 2006, 08:43
I would rather he take the wickets in the important match next week. No need to panic.
nananana catman
17 Nov 2006, 08:45
Has he ever done much for Victoria when playing for them in recent times?
jko'neal
17 Nov 2006, 08:56
Has he ever done much for Victoria when playing for them in recent times?
Has he ever done much against Tassie at all in the 4 day fixture?
1/127 off 37.
Finally gets a tailender.
Partridge
17 Nov 2006, 09:02
Granted, there's still a tail to clean up and he's the best in the business, but does anyone else think that Shane might be a touch under done leading into a big Aussie summer?
He'll undoubtedly rise to the occasion on the test stage, but it's not the kind of lead up he would have hoped for.
Historically Warne has rarely done much playing for Victoria. Whether he saves himself for test cricket who knows, but he'll be at 100% next week without any doubt. He's proved it too many times.
Lowie01
17 Nov 2006, 09:08
I can't remember Shane Warne ever bowling well in the tour match or state match immediately before the first test match of a series.
ozserpico66
17 Nov 2006, 09:44
Wet conditions would not have helped
Richo83
17 Nov 2006, 10:33
Warne doesn't often play well in these kinds of matches, but he'll play well against the poms so it's irrelevant.
His fellow Australians have always played him well. I remember when I was involved in district cricket here in Melbourne people didn't fear him. The poms do though.
Having said that I do think his powers on the wane. He will take wickets but be more expensive than he was when he was at his peak. Even the Saffies played him a lot better last summer.
Oh When the Saints
17 Nov 2006, 12:58
Finished with 3/159 ... hardly flattering figures but cleaned up the tail in the end.
I'm predicting a 5-wicket haul in the first Test.
Benno From Berwick
17 Nov 2006, 13:15
The Sheik of Tweak seems to be struggling for form on a spin friendly deck.
Granted, there's still a tail to clean up and he's the best in the business, but does anyone else think that Shane might be a touch under done leading into a big Aussie summer?
He'll undoubtedly rise to the occasion on the test stage, but it's not the kind of lead up he would have hoped for.
One team scores 430 the other 520 and you think it is a spin friendly deck?
Oh OK......
One team scores 430 the other 520 and you think it is a spin friendly deck?
Oh OK......
Friendlier to spin than pace.
Ricketts
17 Nov 2006, 15:01
Tasmania > England.
He'll be right.
crowsarethebest
17 Nov 2006, 15:05
He usually plays pretty bad for Victoria now a days. He'll be fine.
He usually plays pretty bad for Victoria now a days. He'll be fine.
I think his domestic stats especially in the four day version of the game have always been pretty ordinary...Don't have the stats in front of me to back it up, but i'm sure someone would have them somewhere... Might even average in the 30's...
Browney2006
17 Nov 2006, 21:20
Friendlier to spin than pace.
Nope
Historically Warne has rarely done much playing for Victoria. Whether he saves himself for test cricket who knows, but he'll be at 100% next week without any doubt. He's proved it too many times.
Thats what annoys me you see himplaying for Hants and the batters seem to have little difficulty yet he turns up for Aus and he is unplayable .
Mind you he is very old so may be past it or carrying an injury :D
King Elvis
17 Nov 2006, 21:44
Thats what annoys me you see himplaying for Hants and the batters seem to have little difficulty yet he turns up for Aus and he is unplayable .
Mind you he is very old so may be past it or carrying an injury :D
SK Warne.
God amongst men.
SK Warne.
God amongst men.
Yes but this could be the downfall of the gods .
King Elvis
17 Nov 2006, 22:13
Yes but this could be the downfall of the gods .
Warney never fails to deliver.
It won't happen, and I suspect you know it.
Warney never fails to deliver.
It won't happen, and I suspect you know it.
Its my only worry
for some reason he doesnt do to well against India so the top bit is not strictly true
King Elvis
17 Nov 2006, 23:02
Its my only worry
for some reason he doesnt do to well against India so the top bit is not strictly true
I'm curious about something Linda;
You're a female.
Youre English.
So Warney has shagged you, correct?
I'm curious about something Linda;
You're a female.
Youre English.
So Warney has shagged you, correct?
Not for a while I dont like them when they get that old
Stakerz
18 Nov 2006, 10:09
He'll be fine, just getting some overs in before the serious stuff begins. Apparently he bowled quite well though, George Bailey was quoted in the paper down here saying that its the best Warne has ever bowled to him, and that he had no idea most of the time, and was very lucky to survive. Also, he didn't have McGrath bowling at the other end to tighten it up, he had Denton, Moss, McDonald and White, which makes a big difference.He bowled quite well but still didn't get any wickets?
King Elvis
18 Nov 2006, 10:26
He bowled quite well but still didn't get any wickets?
Why is that a hard concept to understand?
Not as bad as when we make 500 against New Zealand, Vettori takes 5 wickets and everyone carries on about how good he is.
lakersman
18 Nov 2006, 14:45
all though we all know Warne will bounce back from this of course on the big stage! it was still a little dissapointing to see him get those figures for his state Victoria.
Carl Spackler
18 Nov 2006, 17:42
The time is right for England to take down both McGrath and Warne. Both bowlers have had the wood over them for umpteen years, the Poms bat as though they're bowling hand grenades. If they're watchful against Warne and try to 'see' McGrath off (like they've done so many times before) then they'll definitely lose.
It would be a huge psychological blow if England were able to inflict some damage on McGrath and Warne. It would put the pressure back on Australia, and the Dad's Army argument would gather strength. Do they have the courage or ability to do it though?
The time is right for England to take down both McGrath and Warne. Both bowlers have had the wood over them for umpteen years, the Poms bat as though they're bowling hand grenades. If they're watchful against Warne and try to 'see' McGrath off (like they've done so many times before) then they'll definitely lose.
It would be a huge psychological blow if England were able to inflict some damage on McGrath and Warne. It would put the pressure back on Australia, and the Dad's Army argument would gather strength. Do they have the courage or ability to do it though?
Agree, if they have any chance they have to imagine Warne and pigeon as 2 bowlers, not bowlers with the names Warne and McGrath who have a hex over them. They are not the same bowlers, they are ripe for the picking.
took 23 more overs than the last Victorian with those figures ;)
johnnyhoward
18 Nov 2006, 23:00
A comparison of Warnie's averages at Test, county and Pura Cup level:
Team Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM
Australia 39256 1718 17297 685 8-71 25.25 36 10
Hampshire 11837 423 5583 226 7-99 24.70 13 0
Victoria 11575 439 5432 158 7-100 34.37 8 1
So anyone suggesting he's in poor nick should have no fear.
Cooldude
18 Nov 2006, 23:05
One of the things that always amazes me about Warnie is the amount of maidens he bowls
Averaging a maiden, wha, one every 3-4 overs? That's amazing particularly for a leggie
He had a pretty poor county season just gone though, in the longer form of the game, Seemed like he was winding down. Mustaq Ahmed was far more devastating.
Kim Chambers
19 Nov 2006, 07:33
Agree, if they have any chance they have to imagine Warne and pigeon as 2 bowlers, not bowlers with the names Warne and McGrath who have a hex over them. They are not the same bowlers, they are ripe for the picking.
Disagree, and quite a bit.Players like Warne and McGrath are ultra talented.Its the reason they are who they are.The 'hex' as you call it has nothing to do with it, they get the wickets they do because they're as good as their record suggests.The other problem with your argument, and its not only England that fall into this category, is that this has all been said before.
Carl Spackler
19 Nov 2006, 12:13
Disagree, and quite a bit.Players like Warne and McGrath are ultra talented.Its the reason they are who they are.The 'hex' as you call it has nothing to do with it, they get the wickets they do because they're as good as their record suggests.The other problem with your argument, and its not only England that fall into this category, is that this has all been said before.
McGrath and Warne have half the batters beaten before they've even bowled a delivery. Have you read Mike Atherton's autobiography? It's quite a good read (if you're a pathetic cricket tragic) but in it he talks about how he grew to dread facing McGrath and it even got to the stage that in his last test innings against Australia he was praying that Australia opened with Gillespie and Lee so he wouldn't have to face him.
No doubt they're great bowlers too but combined with their edge in talent/ability they also have the psychological advantage. The Poms had to turf Stewart, Hussain, Thorpe, Atherton etc before they were a chance of beating us.
You don't think Warne gets any of his wickets by getting in to the head of the batters? Stunning.
RoosterLad
19 Nov 2006, 12:16
took 23 more overs than the last Victorian with those figures ;)
Haha nice point!
Warnie is playing mind games. He knows the Poms will see those figures and think he's past it, only to fall to the great man over and over again. 50 wickets this series.
Gets to play on one of his happiest hunting grounds next week at the Gabba- once he gets to a place where the curators actually do something to make the game a contest between bat and ball, he'll be right.
That place aint Victoria
You got that right.
The MCG pitch last week was certainly a batsmans paradaise.