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To date Roughead has shown glimpes - the 4 goals in a half vs Essendon etc. of what he could potentially become in the future. Could 2007 be a come out year for the big Orange?
Time will tell! not sure roughy will live up to the hype that surounds him!
MaccaHawk
19 Nov 2006, 07:36
Think he will always be solid and reliable for us and definitely for keeps, but I do not expect to see him single-handedly turning many (if any) games in our favour over the coming years.
GNCLongJack
19 Nov 2006, 08:04
I refer to Todd Viney's summary of his 2006 season's development of Roughy. This was dated on Sept. 12. Jarryd wants to be a fwd..........looked really dangerous......, and is starting to show that he can take games by the scruff of the neck...........and a pinch-hitter in the ruck.........only 19y.o. etc. He is EMERGING, and despite having already accumulated the experiences of playing on very good footballers like Barry Hall and Richo, he turns 20 in Jan. '07. I remember 2 contrasting images from early in '05. One of Josh Thurgood screaming the roof down at the designated kicker after an opposition behind score, and consequently getting kicked to, and taking a confident contested mark. The other of Jarryd at the MCG, at least 15 metres clear of any other player in the fwd pocket, at a 40 degree angle. Crawf's got the ball from either a "free" or mark at CHF, watching thru the binocs', Jarryd raised his arm almost shyly and didn't murmur a word, Crawf's not knowing he was even there, kicked elsewhere which resulted in a turnover. This young bloke still sometimes looks perhaps even embarassed, certainly shy, about how naturally equipped he is to play our great game. But, I re-iterate, Jarryd is a EMERGING !!!! The times I've seen him play in the '06 season, I saw him execute so many big man skills effortlessly, that each time I marvelled not knowing had I just seen nonchalance or arrogance. But what I did know was that it erupted me into laughter, like when Buddy "takes 'em on" !!! Jarryd is the classic iceberg, only one tenth of his immense talent has impacted the footy arena so far. But it gets better, I think Beau Dowler is running only one season behind Jarryd Roughead.
hawkaz1
19 Nov 2006, 10:50
He barley played forward this year, and when he did he played pretty well. Like GNCLongJack said, he is emerging, he isn't going to be a champion full forward straight away, we just have to give him time to develop his skills and such and I think that he will be a very good contributer to the team in the future.
Will be better and more reliable than Buddy.
Stick him at CHF.
cschreuder61
19 Nov 2006, 13:43
Will be better and more reliable than Buddy.
Stick him at CHF.
I think Roughead will become a good solid target for us up forward, but pointless comparing him to Franklin.
Franklin looks to be a once in a lifetime type talent.
I think Roughead will become a good solid target for us up forward, but pointless comparing him to Franklin.
Franklin looks to be a once in a lifetime type talent.
Absolutely, Roughead is a big stay at home key position forward while Franklin is a rooming Adam Goodes type player.
Comparing the 2 is like comparing a ruckman to a rover.
Absolutely, Roughead is a big stay at home key position forward while Franklin is a rooming Adam Goodes type player.
Comparing the 2 is like comparing a ruckman to a rover.
Buddy is not like Goodes. When Goodes plays in the forward line he doesn't kick any goals. He is a better all ground player. Buddy will kick plenty!!!:thumbsu:
Roughead will be a gun, big strong and only 19, next year we will see a very good Jarryd Roughead.
Buddy is not like Goodes. When Goodes plays in the forward line he doesn't kick any goals. He is a better all ground player. Buddy will kick plenty!!!:thumbsu:
Agree and disagree, Buddy's around the ground work will improve with experience.
Anyway you look at it, he could well be a once in a lifetime talent :thumbsu:
flukeyluke
19 Nov 2006, 14:32
Roughy to me seems a bit uncoordinated is some ways. i think he will be better up forward where he can make the play.
Plenty of improvement to come if he can get his confidence up.
Cheeseman
19 Nov 2006, 17:22
Roughy has already shown some promising glimpses of what may be a bright future.
For a bloke his size, His second efforts after a spillage, and dexterity he shows whilst trying to put the slow burn on would be tacklers speak volumes about the Kid's prospects.
That said, I would prefer the particular passage of play im remembering never occured, as the spillage i'm referring to was him dropping a relatively easy mark.
Personally, I think he has the goods, and the determination to become a better than servicable player for the HFC in the long term.
:thumbsu:
Agree and disagree, Buddy's around the ground work will improve with experience.
Anyway you look at it, he could well be a once in a lifetime talent :thumbsu:
That's a given:thumbsu:
Can't believe he would fall through 5.
Roughie
19 Nov 2006, 18:35
Roughead is a goal line player. He will play like Lloydy, just let him lead out and work his magic. He didnt get a great run up forward this year, but will get plenty of time in 07 hopefully, he looked good against Ess he will be more consistant then Frangas and will be a good player for hawthorn into the future.
rumblah
19 Nov 2006, 18:40
does anyone think that Buddy could win a brownlow? If people are going to compare him with Goodes then...
Way to early to make predictions, all I'm saying is that I can see traits of how Goodes plays in Franklin.
Buddy Hero
19 Nov 2006, 18:56
does anyone think that Buddy could win a brownlow? If people are going to compare him with Goodes then...
Could scratch him in for 3 but.. Hodge, Mitch, Roughead, Birch, B1, B2, etc etc etc all gonna be stealing votes off him
:cool:
Way to early to make predictions, all I'm saying is that I can see traits of how Goodes plays in Franklin.
Yes I can see Franklin having some of the Goodes attributes. However I think Buddy is more erratic, wile Goodes being a little more composed. Buddy could develop these qualities though. But I Want him to be a goal kicker.
burner1
19 Nov 2006, 19:28
Roughead is a goal line player. He will play like Lloydy, just let him lead out and work his magic. He didnt get a great run up forward this year, but will get plenty of time in 07 hopefully, he looked good against Ess he will be more consistant then Frangas and will be a good player for hawthorn into the future.
Agree I sort of see him becoming a more talented version of quentin lynch (without the 65m bombs) whos a better contested mark (hopefully richo like) and better footy brain that does his best work in the fwd 50 but also roams up the ground to change things up and is a handful if left one out in the square. In a few years roughy should be a very powerful young man, while not epxress he has suprisingly good agility and puts in good second efforts and has a great leap. Needs to work on his engine so he can put on numerous hard leads to tire out the defender or change things up occasiionly and lead to the wings and the confidence to demand the ball and use his big frame to crash packs. With dowler, franklin and willo should form a very imposing and diverse fwd line.
JezzHawk
19 Nov 2006, 19:31
I would prefer majority of his play next year on the CHF/FF line. Previous years he was Clarko solution when an opposition tall forward would dominate. If given the game time to settle into the CHF role, we will hopefully see major imrovements in Roughy.
He has great speed for a tall player and his major strength is his marking.
FriarTuck
19 Nov 2006, 19:58
Hope Roughie gets a decent go at FF. He is strong and will demand a big defender.
Not sure on his agility of second efforts but he has plenty of raw material to work with. Would love to see him get angry.
Hugshawks
19 Nov 2006, 20:38
Roughie's 4 goals at CHF highlights where he should be playing. Lock him in there. Needs to bulk up a fair bit, and become a bit more aggressive- he looks a little passive at times. But with that said, if he improves in these areas, 22 games and 30 goals would be a solid return.
Yes I can see Franklin having some of the Goodes attributes. However I think Buddy is more erratic, wile Goodes being a little more composed. Buddy could develop these qualities though. But I Want him to be a goal kicker.
Absolutely, I'd love him to become the new prototype CHF.
I'm hoping Roughead can develop into a 60-70 goal stay at home FF/CHF
Thaihawk
19 Nov 2006, 22:09
Roughie's 4 goals at CHF highlights where he should be playing. Lock him in there. Needs to bulk up a fair bit, and become a bit more aggressive- he looks a little passive at times. But with that said, if he improves in these areas, 22 games and 30 goals would be a solid return.
I agree CHF is his best position. My comcern last season was he got caught holding the ball too often. However, with the likes of Buddy Ellis Muston etc feeding off him and running towards goal he could be a great contributor in our 'goals assist' stat as well as kicking 30 odd himself.
We'll have a potent forward line in 07, and kick good scores, lets hope we can develop a strong defence to restrict the opposition.
flukeyluke
19 Nov 2006, 23:44
does anyone think that Buddy could win a brownlow? If people are going to compare him with Goodes then...
Settle down mate. He has to show he can contribute week in, week out first.
I think it's important to think about the expectations of a "big man". Roughie was drafted because of a natural skill base, shown in country leagues, and because of his size, and notably, his bloodline (ie. size of father, etc). Apparently his old man is a man mountain.
Now, what you've got, is a big kid, at 19 years of age. He's tall, and he's been able to put the necessary weight on. What he hasn't done, is developed that weight into muscle and mass that will allow him to stand his ground against big men in the AFL. Maybe against big men in the country leagues, who don't do weight three times a week, but not the AFL.
That may have something to do with the "meek" calling he was doing for the ball, highlighted in an earlier post. He would have been matched up with some big defender, and probably doubted his ability to take the mark. Many of the marks I've seen him take have been "basketball" finger tip grabs, or coming in from the side of a pack with a run up. He's not standing in the epicentre of a pack, and just using brute strength to bring the ball in. That'll come. For sure.
What he has done, is when under pressure, marked over James Hird (Rd 20, 2005), and i can remember him taking a good CHF "stick your knee in the guys head" mark against Melbourne earlier in the season. He shows glimpses, what he needs is a good preseaon practice match to show himself and others that "hell, i've got a bit of weight and power behind me...my opponent might be older, but i'm stronger".
Does anyone remember Buddy Franklin last season (2005)? Couldn't take a contested grab to save himself, sometimes even spilling it after two or three efforts when he was a couple of metres in front of his opponent. Furthermore, couldn't hold a tackle AT ALL. All of that changed in one season.
I think Roughead will get there. As for the "hype" that someone mentioned...is there really hype? Certainly for Buddy, but I'm not aware of anyone really talking up Roughead, unless it's the Tambling v Roughead argument.
WeneedyoungJarmans
20 Nov 2006, 11:23
Roughead reminds me of Paul Dear. Watch the 1991 GF, that's what I envisiage Roughy to turn out like.
Workman like! Presenting CHF. Good hands off the ground, using body strength to pave the way and feed off! A good combination of overhead marking, body strength and athleticism and consistency.
Let the boy play forward one on one. Once he gets his confidence up, he'll sit on a few heads.
Hedgehodgy
20 Nov 2006, 11:37
The general themes that I have gotten from the posts on this thread are,
Why are we comparing Buddy to Roughie? They are a totally different type of player.
This is true but they will always be compared because they were chosen together so close in the draft picks 2 and 5 picked by the same club to be the two key position players of the future. At the time and probably still for roughie (though forward is looking the goods more and more) we didn't know where they are best suited.
I think roughie is consistant but dont see him turning games
Dont see this being the case firstly I think a quality consistant player like roughie will have a lot of games already won from the start then having to rescue a losing game, and I don't think that this comment i true anyway. I think that roughie has the talent and power to take crucial contested marks and go back and slot winning goals. But only time will tell
Krale Brown
20 Nov 2006, 19:08
I refer to Todd Viney's summary of his 2006 season's development of Roughy. This was dated on Sept. 12. Jarryd wants to be a fwd..........looked really dangerous......, and is starting to show that he can take games by the scruff of the neck...........and a pinch-hitter in the ruck.........only 19y.o. etc. He is EMERGING, and despite having already accumulated the experiences of playing on very good footballers like Barry Hall and Richo, he turns 20 in Jan. '07. I remember 2 contrasting images from early in '05. One of Josh Thurgood screaming the roof down at the designated kicker after an opposition behind score, and consequently getting kicked to, and taking a confident contested mark. The other of Jarryd at the MCG, at least 15 metres clear of any other player in the fwd pocket, at a 40 degree angle. Crawf's got the ball from either a "free" or mark at CHF, watching thru the binocs', Jarryd raised his arm almost shyly and didn't murmur a word, Crawf's not knowing he was even there, kicked elsewhere which resulted in a turnover. This young bloke still sometimes looks perhaps even embarassed, certainly shy, about how naturally equipped he is to play our great game. But, I re-iterate, Jarryd is a EMERGING !!!! The times I've seen him play in the '06 season, I saw him execute so many big man skills effortlessly, that each time I marvelled not knowing had I just seen nonchalance or arrogance. But what I did know was that it erupted me into laughter, like when Buddy "takes 'em on" !!! Jarryd is the classic iceberg, only one tenth of his immense talent has impacted the footy arena so far. But it gets better, I think Beau Dowler is running only one season behind Jarryd Roughead.
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