View Full Version : Sam Sheldon
Dramoth
27 Nov 2006, 09:41
If I just read the wrap up right on the AFL website, Sam Sheldon just went to the bears.
This means that the son of one of our legends is going to be playing against us.
I couldnt find anything about Jake and Tomi. Are they still available now or did they get picked up by another club?
The Old Dark Navy's
27 Nov 2006, 09:44
Jake and Tommi are still available for the rookie draft or PSD. I'd say Kenny as a Saints employee didn't feel any loyalty to the Blues and encouraged Sammy to take his chances where he found them.
The Lions had told Sammy he would be taken by them if everyone else passed on him.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 09:49
Good luck to him-he was obviously rated higher by the Lions than he was by us. No big loss-remember the last F/S possibility we passed on? That didn't turn out well, did it? I have full confidence in the recruiting staff, and if they chose to overlook Sam, so be it-I'm very happy with our selections.
Tomi and Jake are still available. I doubt we will take either in the PSD, but one or both of them may find themselves being rookied.
Think we'll pick up Willians in the Rookie draft. :)
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 10:07
Think we'll pick up Willians in the Rookie draft. :)
Not with the first pick, but probably later on in it.
Hopefully other clubs leave him alone.
good luck to sam
still a good decision by carlton, 15 other clubs did not pick sam in the 3rd round of the draft and all 16 passed on him in the 4th round as well
he may be a good player but with the info at hand and the circumstances it was a sound decision by carlton.
Dramoth
27 Nov 2006, 13:16
good luck to sam
still a good decision by carlton, 15 other clubs did not pick sam in the 3rd round of the draft and all 16 passed on him in the 4th round as well
he may be a good player but with the info at hand and the circumstances it was a sound decision by carlton.
I agree... good luck to him.
I am just a little pissed that he didnt take the advice given to him about nominating next year when he would have had another year in the TAC and he would have been definitely picked up by the blues as a F/S pick
I dont think that Ken was being disloyal ODN, but he would have advised Sam to do what he thought best. I dont think that a father would really advise a son to do the wrong thing.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 13:24
It all just seems very silly by Sam. There is NO way he will play seniors for Brisbane this year, so he will effectively start playing AFL from 2008 onwards, and even that isn't a guarrantee.
He was guarranteed a spot on our list for 2008 and beyond. It really was a silly choice, as he wouldn't have missed any chance of playing AFL if he opted to be taken by us next year.
Anyway, good luck to him. For all we know, he could turn out to be just like the last kid we chose to overlook that was taken by another club.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:16
It all just seems very silly by Sam. There is NO way he will play seniors for Brisbane this year, so he will effectively start playing AFL from 2008 onwards, and even that isn't a guarrantee.
He was guarranteed a spot on our list for 2008 and beyond. It really was a silly choice, as he wouldn't have missed any chance of playing AFL if he opted to be taken by us next year.
Why is it silly? He's even less of a chance of playing seniors in 2007 if he isn't on a list. Now he gets to train with an AFL club and progress his development a year earlier.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:19
Why is it silly? He's even less of a chance of playing seniors in 2007 if he isn't on a list. Now he gets to train with an AFL club and progress his development a year earlier.
It just seems silly because he won't get to play AFL until 2008, when he was guarranteed the opportunity to do so by us.
I agree, the experience is invaluable, but I'm sure Sam would have been invited by the CFC to train and mingle around the club next year before his selection.
As I have said, all the best to him-I hope he suceeds, but it is just strange that he chose what he did. Good luck :thumbsu:
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:24
It just seems silly because he won't get to play AFL until 2008, when he was guarranteed the opportunity to do so by us.
:confused: He wouldn't have played until 2008 with your mob either.
Dramoth
27 Nov 2006, 14:25
:confused: He wouldn't have played until 2008 with your mob either.
Yes, but he would have been with his real family instead of the adopted family your team is going to try and make for him...
Bet he gets homesick in 2 years time :D
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:26
:confused: He wouldn't have played until 2008 with your mob either.
That's exactly my point!
At the end of the day, he was guarranteed a spot with us, but chose to try his luck.
Either way, he will play in 2008 at the earliest, so I don't know how much he would have gained.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:27
Yes, but he would have been with his real family instead of the adopted family your team is going to try and make for him...
Bet he gets homesick in 2 years time :D
OK. At least that is a valid reason. But the fact that he nominated for the draft instead of staying home with mum, tells me he is less likely to get homesick than others.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:29
OK. At least that is a valid reason. But the fact that he nominated for the draft instead of staying home with mum, tells me he is less likely to get homesick than others.
Not at all. It just shows he has confidence. We have no idea whether he adapts well, or if he becomes homesick. Only time will tell.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:31
At the end of the day, he was guarranteed a spot with us, but chose to try his luck.
The Lions said that they would take him if no one else did, so he was assured of getting picked up. But I don't know if that was before or after he chose to nominate for the draft.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:32
The Lions said that they would take him if no one else did, so he was assured of getting picked up. But I don't know if that was before or after he chose to nominate for the draft.
I think it was after. Therefore it was a pretty big gamble by Sam, especially seeing as though we had already notified him that he was guarranteed a spot on our list from 2008.
Vipertooth
27 Nov 2006, 14:33
That's exactly my point!
At the end of the day, he was guarranteed a spot with us, but chose to try his luck.
Either way, he will play in 2008 at the earliest, so I don't know how much he would have gained.
Mabye he liked the lions better then the blues?
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:34
I think it was after.
I suspected you might say that:D
It's quite possible that the reason he nominated for the draft was because he knew someone would take him.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:34
Mabye he liked the lions better then the blues?
It was only after he nominated that he was informed of the Lion's interest.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:35
It was only after he nominated that he was informed of the Lion's interest.
:confused: Your story changes pretty quickly.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:36
I suspected you might say that:D
It's quite possible that the reason he nominated for the draft was because he knew someone would take him.
I'm pretty sure that the reason he nominated was that he wanted to get into it straight away. Clubs may have spoken to him, but I doubt he was assured he would be picked up by anyone.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:38
:confused: Your story changes pretty quickly.
Why? I'm just saying that I think he was told after he was nominated that he was being closely looked at. A few clubs were interested in him apparently, including Carlton, so that eliminates the possibility of nominating in order to get away from the Blues.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:42
Why? I'm just saying that I think he was told after he was nominated that he was being closely looked at.
You have no way of knowing that. You're just saying that to suit your "he was silly" argument.
Anyway, the fact is he was drafted, so I find it hard to fathom your criticism of him to nominate. For all he knows the Blues may have changed their mind next year.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:46
You have no way of knowing that. You're just saying that to suit your "he was silly" argument.
Anyway, the fact is he was drafted, so I find it hard to fathom your criticism of him to nominate. For all he knows the Blues may have changed their mind next year.
I'm not saying I know it-on the contrary, I have no idea. I'm not saying it just to suit my argument at all, but then again, neither of us know what really went on.
And just to make it clear, I am not criticising him at all. I wish him the best of luck at the Lions, and I would never do anything less. I am just saying that he took a big gamble. Luckily for him, it has so far paid off, and I hope for his sake that it continues this way.
irish_setanta
27 Nov 2006, 14:50
Mabye he liked the lions better then the blues?
And maybe Murphy liked the blues more than the lions? Know who id rather have.;)
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 14:52
It was only after he nominated that he was informed of the Lion's interest.
Article (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20825494-5003410,00.html)
"Paul Brodie, one of our recruiting officers, has been keeping tabs on Sam," Lions football manager Graeme Allan said. "We gave Sam's manager Ricky Nixon and his father a guarantee we would pick him if he put in for the draft."
AlecDuncan
27 Nov 2006, 14:53
I am just saying that he took a big gamble. Luckily for him, it has so far paid off, and I hope for his sake that it continues this way.
Less of a gamble than waiting a year for a possible Father-Son selection. I think he was under-estimating his chances, but he's got a spot now, so he won't have any regrets about jumping now.
Good luck Sam, and if you ever get homesick, give Uncle Wayne a call.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 14:56
Article (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20825494-5003410,00.html)
Well there you go-I stand corrected.
So the Lions notified him of their intent to select him.
Still, the fact that he chose Lions over us, considering he wouldn't play AFL anyway in 2007, is intriguing. And what if someone had seriously slipped through to the Lions pick-would they have overlooked Sheldon? In any case, he took a risk, considering he was going to be a Blue in 08. Luckily for him it paid off. Good luck to him.
murphster
27 Nov 2006, 15:00
He took his chance while it was there and so be it, let's say that he didn't nominate and ended up doing his knee or some other injury early next year and missed the majority of the TAC cup season and the U18 carnival, if that happened he would be a good chance of not being drafted next year and that would be it for his football career. As i said he took his chance while it was there rather than risking his career on hoping to be taken next year by Carlton, while it is dissapointing that he won't be at Carlton such is life, if he doesn't get a descent run at Brisbane he might decide to come home and we will get him that way.
Hopefully we rookie Williams and Johnson as i think they might develop into good players after a couple of years of putting on some size on the rookie list, would also love to rookie Leigh Adams a Gleeson clone with talent to burn, a bargain with a rookie selection and seeing we didn't take any smaller players in the ND would be a perfect fit.:thumbsu:
aic-poppy
27 Nov 2006, 15:11
I know if I was in his shoes I would've done exactly the same thing.
Full time Footballer getting paid vs Part time footballer, no pay with no guarentees of being drafted the following year.
Easy decision.
And from what i've seen of him, I think he'll be a very good midfielder in a few years.
Dramoth
27 Nov 2006, 15:16
Not at all. It just shows he has confidence. We have no idea whether he adapts well, or if he becomes homesick. Only time will tell.
I still reckon that if he hasnt had at least a couple of matches for Brisbanes first team in the 2 years, then he will get sick of it all
There is also the fact that he might not get on to well with Mathews (acker and michaels spring to mind here) during that time and want to leave.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 15:18
There is also the fact that he might not get on to well with Mathews (acker and michaels spring to mind here) during that time and want to leave.
What makes you think Mal and Leigh didn't get on?
Ah, good luck to the kid. He tried his luck and ended up in Brisbane with their final pick (#70 Overall)
We could have picked him up with our final selection, but went with Joe Anderson instead.
One thing is for sure though, he certainly WAS not worth selection #35 in this years draft, so I believe Carlton have done the right thing.
Dramoth
27 Nov 2006, 15:32
What makes you think Mal and Leigh didn't get on?
Why was he saying that he had lost interest in the sport and was feeling jaded?
Why is he now at Essendon then instead of going back to the lions?
Anyways... good luck to him and all the best for the future.
Timmy from Thomastown
27 Nov 2006, 15:32
He was guarranteed a spot on our list for 2008 and beyond. It really was a silly choice, as he wouldn't have missed any chance of playing AFL if he opted to be taken by us next year.
If you are so sure he was guaranteed a spot on your list in 2008, then you should have ensured that by tying him up this year. Using your theory a kid like Xavier Ellis would never get drafted.
He wanted to join the AFL this year, you didnt want him, so he went into the draft.
Jeremias
27 Nov 2006, 15:35
If you are so sure he was guaranteed a spot on your list in 2008, then you should have ensured that by tying him up this year. Using your theory a kid like Xavier Ellis would never get drafted.
He wanted to join the AFL this year, you didnt want him, so he went into the draft.
Have you read anything in this thread?
We were interested in him, and guarranteed him a spot on our list in 2008. We didn't take him using a F/S selection this year as he was not worth a pick that high. I have no theory, and you have obviously misread. What does Ellis have to do with this? Nothing.
Grimreepah
27 Nov 2006, 15:59
Why was he saying that he had lost interest in the sport and was feeling jaded?
Why is he now at Essendon then instead of going back to the lions?
I presume because Essendon gave Mal a more flexible training schedule like he had asked for at the Lions.
Is that all you're basing it on?
I presume because Essendon gave Mal a more flexible training schedule like he had asked for at the Lions.
Is that all you're basing it on?
And because he wanted to move back to Melbourne as well?
Bluebear
27 Nov 2006, 19:15
It all just seems very silly by Sam. There is NO way he will play seniors for Brisbane this year, so he will effectively start playing AFL from 2008 onwards, and even that isn't a guarrantee.
He was guarranteed a spot on our list for 2008 and beyond. It really was a silly choice, as he wouldn't have missed any chance of playing AFL if he opted to be taken by us next year.
Anyway, good luck to him. For all we know, he could turn out to be just like the last kid we chose to overlook that was taken by another club.
Do you think making $40K next year for training with an AFL club had anything to do with it?
Of course he's not going to pass up the money, and sit around in the TAC for a year when he can go and learn from Lethal Leigh........would you?
Do you think making $40K next year for training with an AFL club had anything to do with it?
Of course he's not going to pass up the money, and sit around in the TAC for a year when he can go and learn from Lethal Leigh........would you?
Certainly a fair point BB.
Can't blame him for nominating once he knew a club was interested in him.
Timmy from Thomastown
28 Nov 2006, 08:18
We were interested in him, and guarranteed him a spot on our list in 2008. .
Clearly you werent interested enough. Obviously your club is in such good shape that you can pass by father-son opportiunities.
Jeremias
28 Nov 2006, 08:20
Clearly you werent interested enough. Obviously your club is in such good shape that you can pass by father-son opportiunities.
Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
We were interested in him, just not as much as Brisbane.
You are saying that because one club picked him up, no others were interested. What rubbish...:rolleyes:
Timmy from Thomastown
28 Nov 2006, 08:48
Please, stop embarrassing yourself.
We were interested in him, just not as much as Brisbane.
Thats just what I said. You had the opportunity to lock him in and declined. If you wanted him badly enough that he was guaranteed for next year, then you should have taken him this year. To say he's not worth a father son this year but is definitely worth it next year is ludicrous and insulting, and I'm not surprised he nominated for the draft after Carlton's treatment of him. What difference is a year when you're rebuilding?
Jeremias
28 Nov 2006, 09:03
Thats just what I said. You had the opportunity to lock him in and declined. If you wanted him badly enough that he was guaranteed for next year, then you should have taken him this year. To say he's not worth a father son this year but is definitely worth it next year is ludicrous and insulting, and I'm not surprised he nominated for the draft after Carlton's treatment of him. What difference is a year when you're rebuilding?
You are just being silly now.
We didn't take him this year under the F/S rule because we decided that he was not worth our 3rd round selection, pick 35 overall, in this years draft. But that is not to say that we were not interested in him. On the contrary, we were, and we were considering taking him with a late pick, or even in the rookie draft if he lasted that far.
If he was guarranteed for next year, why would we take him this year-that doesn't make sense, and I don't think you fully understand what is going on. We told him that it was our intention to take him using the F/S rule in the 2007 draft, at the end of next year.
It is not insulting at all to suggest he was not worth a father son selection this draft. The fact is that this year was an incredibly strong draft-one of, if not the strongest ever. Pick 35 was deemed to be too high for a player of his calibre. Not insulting at all that there were better players available at that pick. The fact that he went to Brisbane in the 70's suggests he wasn't good enough to go 40 odd picks prior. Therefore, we made the right decision in the end. We also got a player that at the beginning of the year prior to injury was rated a top 20 selection, far better than Sheldon.
Next year its apparently not as strong a draft as this years was, and therefore Carlton believed that in next years draft, Sheldon was worthy of a 3rd round selection, and would have picked him.
Timmy from Thomastown
28 Nov 2006, 09:13
Fair enough, your board, I've said my piece and got a fair hearing. I just dont see the logic in overlooking a player who will be worth it next year but not this year. Father-son gives you the chance to pick up good players for free. Carlton decided to roll the dice and hope Sheldon would be patient enough to sit out a year. It backfired.
Jeremias
28 Nov 2006, 09:16
Fair enough, your board, I've said my piece and got a fair hearing. I just dont see the logic in overlooking a player who will be worth it next year but not this year.
And that's exactly why I don't think you are very smart.
The logic is that he wasn't good enough to pick at 35 in this years draft because there were plenty of better prospects available at that pick and that he isn't big enough or good enough yet.
He would have been worth a 3rd rounder next year, and that's why we told him we would take him then.
That's really not that hard to understand...:rolleyes:
Napolean
28 Nov 2006, 09:22
He did the right thing. Carlton may have intended to get him next year but I am quite sure there were no guarantees made. Unless we gave it to him in writing he could not be sure we would get him next year. Brisbane gave him a guarantee they would get him on their list this year and he did the smart thing and chose Brisbane.
While he may not have been worth a F/S 3rd round selection, Carlton still had their chance with pick #67 and chose to pass. Shows we didn't rate him too highly.
Good luck to him at Brisbane.
Warwick
28 Nov 2006, 10:10
I'd say we would have been tossing up between selecting Sam or one of the Queensland kids who didn't get picked, e.g. Kiel.
It seemed we rated him highly and said we were going to pick him up regardless - so when all clubs had passed on him, we took him with our final pick. We get first dibs on the remaining Queenslanders in the RD if none are taken in the PSD anyhow, so this way it was win-win.
Well done to those wishing him luck.
The Grover
28 Nov 2006, 12:32
Clearly you werent interested enough. Obviously your club is in such good shape that you can pass by father-son opportiunities.
I wouldn't go mentioning father son selections ( Clokes ), Collingwood couldn't get it right.
Totally happy with how Carlton managed Sheldon situation, the fact he was bottom age meant he wasn't as good this year as many 18 year olds, as vindicated by no other club taking him before pick 70 or whatever it was.
TheBrownDog
17 Feb 2007, 00:54
Can't judge a player on one match (especially an Intraclub match) but he was exceptional on Friday night.
Played as a small forward, great footy smarts and skills, nabbed a couple of goals and created plenty of opportunities with his defensive pressure.
Should be a player... hopefully in Brisbane.
gandaal
17 Feb 2007, 09:08
Can't judge a player on one match (especially an Intraclub match) but he was exceptional on Friday night.
Played as a small forward, great footy smarts and skills, nabbed a couple of goals and created plenty of opportunities with his defensive pressure.
Should be a player... hopefully in Brisbane.
Good luck to him. Hope he does well up there in Brisbane.
AlecDuncan
17 Feb 2007, 09:19
Good luck to him. Hope he does well up there in Brisbane.
I think we all feel the same way. Good luck to Sam, sorry it didn't work out with the draft, but all the best in Brisbane.
Johnny_3
18 Feb 2007, 14:40
I think we all feel the same way. Good luck to Sam, sorry it didn't work out with the draft, but all the best in Brisbane.hmm...hope he bcomes a star.
hope he loses the passion/retires from brisbane and regains the passion and comes out of retirement at carlton.
Jeremias
19 Feb 2007, 09:52
hmm...hope he bcomes a star.
hope he loses the passion/retires from brisbane and regains the passion and comes out of retirement at carlton.
Hmmm....that sort of sounds familiar!
:D
Bluebear
19 Feb 2007, 10:04
Sounds familiar, but more in the Goddard to Blues......Gibbs to Crows mould for mine.
:cool:
TheBrownDog
1 Nov 2007, 16:08
Sammy has asked to wear Vossy's number three from 2008 and beyond, and the club has agreed.
Ballsy kid, love him!
I figured since you guys have been posting pictures of Hadley training with Carlton on our board that I'd return the favour. ;)
Gilly1972
1 Nov 2007, 16:16
Sammy has asked to wear Vossy's number three from 2008 and beyond, and the club has agreed.
Ballsy kid, love him!
I figured since you guys have been posting pictures of Hadley training with Carlton on our board that I'd return the favour. ;)
Give me Joey Anderson anyday ;):p
Jeremias
1 Nov 2007, 16:16
Sammy has asked to wear Vossy's number three from 2008 and beyond, and the club has agreed.
Ballsy kid, love him!
I figured since you guys have been posting pictures of Hadley training with Carlton on our board that I'd return the favour. ;)
There's a little bit of a difference.
Hadley was a Brisbane player, Sheldon Jnr was never a Carlton player.
Furthermore, your supporters continually bring that thread up, it wasn't a Carlton supporter bumping it up. There has been discussion about Hadley by Brisbane supporters since his departure. Can't say the same about Sheldon.
SurreyBlue
1 Nov 2007, 16:29
Young Sammy decided to go to Brisbane just like young Murphy didn't, fair enough we've accepted that and moved on, it seems however some Lions fans haven't.:rolleyes:
TheGeneral
1 Nov 2007, 16:31
Sammy has asked to wear Vossy's number three from 2008 and beyond, and the club has agreed.
Ballsy kid, love him!
I figured since you guys have been posting pictures of Hadley training with Carlton on our board that I'd return the favour. ;)
Carlton's number three is a hack. :)
TheBrownDog
1 Nov 2007, 16:32
Young Sammy decided to go to Brisbane just like young Murphy didn't, fair enough we've accepted that and moved on, it seems however some Lions fans haven't.:rolleyes:
Who mentioned Murphy?
marcmurphy3
1 Nov 2007, 16:51
They must rate Sheldon highly to give him no. 3. Good luck to him.
I'm still a little bit dissapointed though that he didn't chose to wait.
TheBrownDog
1 Nov 2007, 17:19
They must rate Sheldon highly to give him no. 3. Good luck to him.
I'm still a little bit dissapointed though that he didn't chose to wait.
I suspect injuring himself this year in the TAC cup may have been too great a risk.
'Bird in the hand' type situation.
Gilly1972
1 Nov 2007, 18:21
I suspect injuring himself this year in the TAC cup may have been too great a risk.
'Bird in the hand' type situation.
Anderson - 67
Sheldon - 70
I really wouldn't look too hard into it....we rated Anderson higher than Sheldon, end of story.
TheBrownDog
1 Nov 2007, 21:10
Anderson - 67
Sheldon - 70
I really wouldn't look too hard into it....we rated Anderson higher than Sheldon, end of story.
Huh? I'm talking about the reasonings behind Sheldon's decision to nominate last season instead of waiting.
Gilly1972
1 Nov 2007, 23:14
Huh? I'm talking about the reasonings behind Sheldon's decision to nominate last season instead of waiting.
Oops, I didn't think of that :o.
My comment still stands:D
Blue Dimension
1 Nov 2007, 23:17
Huh? I'm talking about the reasonings behind Sheldon's decision to nominate last season instead of waiting.
Why wait? Would you?
Seriously. He was offered an AFL contract. Of course he was going to take it up. No brainer really.
Anderson - 67
Sheldon - 70
I really wouldn't look too hard into it....we rated Anderson higher than Sheldon, end of story.
Do you think that Sam might be feeling a little pissed with himself right now...
If he had waited like we wanted him to, we would be picking him up with 36 and he would be 1 year away from playing with the best player in the league.
I can understand his desire to play at the top level, but... hindsight is a terrible thing really.
dutchy12
2 Nov 2007, 09:49
Do you think that Sam might be feeling a little pissed with himself right now...
If he had waited like we wanted him to, we would be picking him up with 36 and he would be 1 year away from playing with the best player in the league.
I can understand his desire to play at the top level, but... hindsight is a terrible thing really.
I'd think he'd be much more happier up in Brisbane. They have a successfull culture and are on the verge of something special. And oh wait they have the best player in the league J Brown
BluesRules
2 Nov 2007, 09:51
A third round pick for Sheldon was too much too give up in such a strong draft, but taking him later in the draft instead of Anderson could have been a good option.
Mayesy_23
2 Nov 2007, 16:34
A third round pick for Sheldon was too much too give up in such a strong draft, but taking him later in the draft instead of Anderson could have been a good option.
What? Ando is a gun.
Jeremias
2 Nov 2007, 16:38
A third round pick for Sheldon was too much too give up in such a strong draft, but taking him later in the draft instead of Anderson could have been a good option.
More than happy that we decided to take Anderson over Sheldon.
deluxeman
2 Nov 2007, 16:40
Just a question to those who follow the draft and have seen Sheldon play this year. How would you rate him compared to those in this year's draft and where would you have expected him to go?
If he hadn't nominated last year, would you expect that Carlton would have been willing to give up Pick 48 for him this year?
Jeremias
2 Nov 2007, 16:42
Just a question to those who follow the draft and have seen Sheldon play this year. How would you rate him compared to those in this year's draft and where would you have expected him to go?
If he hadn't nominated last year, would you expect that Carlton would have been willing to give up Pick 48 for him this year?
It may not even have been pick 48, considering the F/S rules have changed from last year.
No longer would it have mattered how much only we rated Sheldon, but also how he was rated in the eyes of the recruiting managers of other clubs.
doh its me
3 Nov 2007, 00:28
He did the tight thing, an injury in TAC is an unnecessary risk.
There was a poll this year in the Age of TAC players regarding which coach they would most like to play under.
Leigh Matthews won hands down, and that might have been a factor also.
C4[2]Yo`DooR
3 Nov 2007, 09:06
In all honesty, I don't see all that much in him to get excited about.
If his name wasn't Sheldon - I doubt Brisbane would have picked him up.
It was revenge for Murphy I tells ya.
Bomba Sheldon
4 Nov 2007, 10:18
I would have loved to see young Sheldon in the navy blue, but I am also very happy with what I have seen of Anderson as well.
TheGeneral
6 Mar 2008, 15:55
Who would you rather have, Sheldon or Armfield if the former had nominated for the 2007 draft and another club didn't show any interest?
I have no idea how Armfield compared to Sheldon as a junior. but it might be touch and go with Army because we need a small forward/midfield who can kick a goal. But I'd rather Steven Browne than Sheldon if we had to use our third round selection to father-son Sam because the Lions were interested.
Sam has more question mark over him than Browne who has who has played senior footy in the WAFL and played well. Browne might be the hard nosed defender and mid Carlton needs if he develops in the Bullants because he hasn't been given a go in the pre-season.
http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20256
* Steven Browne. I'd suggest this kid could play in a variety of positions. Seems to relish being out there amongst the senior boys and is very good on both sides. Has clean disposal under pressure and is a good mark overhead for his size. Being left out of some of these Challenge matches indicates that he'll have a development year with the Bullants.
Solid for a first year player. :thumbsu:
http://navyblueart.com/gallery/albums/training/2008/feb_27/56.jpg
There's some matchday footage of Browne in the second half of this video.
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TheBrownDog
6 Mar 2008, 17:14
Quite happy with Sheldon to be honest.
Was taken as a long term prospect and has shown plenty in the limited periods he wasn't injured last year.
Is full of spunk and confidence, and is a little bit of a cult hero around here already.
Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the Brisbane board. The damn "Subscribed Threads" list screwed me over again. My apologies.
Quite happy with Sheldon to be honest.
Was taken as a long term prospect and has shown plenty in the limited periods he wasn't injured last year.
Is full of spunk and confidence, and is a little bit of a cult hero around here already.
Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the Brisbane board. The damn "Subscribed Threads" list screwed me over again. My apologies.
good to hear hope the kid kicks on and does well.
Quite happy with Sheldon to be honest.
Was taken as a long term prospect and has shown plenty in the limited periods he wasn't injured last year.
Is full of spunk and confidence, and is a little bit of a cult hero around here already.
Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the Brisbane board. The damn "Subscribed Threads" list screwed me over again. My apologies.
nps...
Always happy to hear any good news about the sons of Carlton Legends even if they arent playing for us...
BlueMania
6 Mar 2008, 19:38
Maybe Sam will get home sick just as he starts to blossom .:thumbsu:
TheBrownDog
6 Mar 2008, 19:40
Maybe Sam will get home sick just as he starts to blossom .:thumbsu:
He seems pretty committed to the club, he was given Voss's #3 for a reason.
He seems pretty committed to the club, he was given Voss's #3 for a reason.
Quite an endorsement that. I hope he does well up in Brisbane.
BlueMania
6 Mar 2008, 19:50
I must admit to being dissappointed Carlton didn't pick him up
TheBrownDog
6 Mar 2008, 19:51
Quite an endorsement that. I hope he does well up in Brisbane.
Yeah, I'm sure he would have liked to play for Carlton but it didn't pan out.
He's still very small and is a long term prospect, but he genuinely showed some almost Daicosian magic for Suncoast last year.
He has the skills and an amazing attitude, but whether he will be able to develop to the physical level required is unknown at this stage. Was certainly worth a punt that late in the draft.
Not sure if the Marc Murphy revenge scenario really played a part, but if it was completely 50/50 between Sam and another player, a little spite could very well have tipped the scales. ;)
Quite an endorsement that. I hope he does well up in Brisbane.
So do I...
I would be most disappointed in his temprament if he suddenly decides that he is homesick and wants to come to Carlton.
However, if he serves his time and want to come home... then I am all for it