View Full Version : Aussies replace Marto with a Giles wannabe
funkyfreo
13 Dec 2006, 22:25
Giles has a better test batting average. A better test bowling average!
Fletcher worried about batting to 8 - Aussies now only go to 5!
This contest is back on!!!
Barmy Army Barmy Army Barmy Army
belfast_bomber
13 Dec 2006, 22:29
barmy is right
Sylvia Saint
13 Dec 2006, 22:50
Stuart Clark, our #10, is so far averaging more than Freddie Flintoff, Andrew Strauss and Geraint Jones with the blade.
Further to this, #8 Shane Warne has Flintoff, Strauss, Jones and Cook covered in the batting department, averaging 30 this series.
Not to mention Brett "I'm too good to have a batting average despite batting at 9" Lee.
Hmmmm...........
funkyfreo
13 Dec 2006, 22:51
Stuart Clark, our #10, is so far averaging more than Freddie Flintoff, Andrew Strauss and Geraint Jones with the blade.
Further to this, #8 Shane Warne has Flintoff, Strauss, Jones and Cook covered in the batting department, averaging 30 this series.
Not to mention Brett "I'm too good to have a batting average despite batting at 9" Lee.
Hmmmm...........
Carrer averages mate - big difference.
Sylvia Saint
13 Dec 2006, 22:55
Carrer averages mate - big difference.
Symonds has a test career? What's he played, 8 matches (and despite his apparent crapness already has a better top score than the wheelie bin)
funkyfreo
13 Dec 2006, 22:57
Symonds has a test career? What's he played, 8 matches (and despite his apparent crapness already has a better top score than the wheelie bin)
10 tests to date, and lucky to be getting #11.
All the best to Gilo #2 though - the test needs a hack bowler who can;t bat.
ManWithNoName
13 Dec 2006, 23:39
Giles has a better test batting average. A better test bowling average!
Fletcher worried about batting to 8 - Aussies now only go to 5!
This contest is back on!!!
Barmy Army Barmy Army Barmy Army
Batting to 5 is bad for us? You have 2 blokes who can bat, KP and Collingwood. That's it. Not to mention you only have one good bowler. But thankyou for your concern, it is appreciated :)
bombersno1
13 Dec 2006, 23:52
I'd be worring about Englands side first mate! You have a keeper who can't catch or bowl, you have 3 idiots in the top 3 that are out of form, you have a captain who hasn't done much, and your bowlers are crap except for Hoggard!
Squizza
13 Dec 2006, 23:56
The thing is we couldn't do any worse with Marto's replacement. And Symonds is our part timer to give our front line bowlers a rest, Gilo is your first choice spinner :o
NSWCROW
13 Dec 2006, 23:58
Hangin out to see GILO come in off 10 paces tomorrow :rolleyes:
Coin_Toss
14 Dec 2006, 06:36
You should be comparing Warne - our first choice spinner - with Ashley Giles.
Warne - the greatest leg spinner of all time. No doubt.
Giles - with an average of 40 I bet you wonder why he is their first choice spinner. Wonders will never cease.
Blues_Man
14 Dec 2006, 09:02
Giles has a better test batting average. A better test bowling average!
Fletcher worried about batting to 8 - Aussies now only go to 5!
This contest is back on!!!
Barmy Army Barmy Army Barmy Army
Must suck to be whinging pom living in Aus right now :o
Symmo is so far in front of Giles as a cricketer that it's not even funny
Symmo is so far in front of Giles as a cricketer that it's not even funny
Test averages say differently though ;).
Symonds is a great ODI player, but ordinary test cricketer. If this was not the case he would have played a lot more test cricket, for someone that has been on the international scene as long as he has.
Monocle
14 Dec 2006, 09:18
Symonds holds his catches, a point that Giles could well learn from.
Roy aint the best to have represented Australia but the sad reality for England is that he is miles ahead of Giles, who is their first choice spinner.:o
Test averages say differently though ;).
Symonds is a great ODI player, but ordinary test cricketer. If this was not the case he would have played a lot more test cricket, for someone that has been on the international scene as long as he has.
Symonds would have been a regular fixture in the English side for the last decade.
Symonds would have been a regular fixture in the English side for the last decade.
Didn't he have a choice early in his career to play for England or Australia?
Joffaboy
14 Dec 2006, 11:42
Didn't he have a choice early in his career to play for England or Australia?
Yes - as always the English attempted to poach a foreign player because they are to much of a shambles to produce their own. The usual pre-text that he was "born" in England.
Symonds, to his ever lasting credit said that he considered himself Australian as that country had given him the opportunities and all of his development had been in Australia, and he would feel like a mercenary to play for any other country.
Too bad there aren't more who feel like him, and show a little bit of integrity and pride.
eddiesmith
14 Dec 2006, 12:06
So Symonds being born in England is a full on Aussie yet English plaers born in England are considered foreigners and picking any player not born in england is a disgrace
Hypocrites
SorryIHammerChicken
14 Dec 2006, 14:00
So Symonds being born in England is a full on Aussie yet English plaers born in England are considered foreigners and picking any player not born in england is a disgrace
Hypocrites
I see where you're coming from but Symo has no trace of English in him, the Queensland ocker drawl, the West Indian blood :) Seems like a good bloke, a shame he can't play Test cricket though.
Squizza
14 Dec 2006, 14:25
So Symonds being born in England is a full on Aussie yet English plaers born in England are considered foreigners and picking any player not born in england is a disgrace
Hypocrites
Symonds didn't spend the first 20 years of his life in England.
wce4premiership
14 Dec 2006, 16:06
Batting to 5 is bad for us? You have 2 blokes who can bat, KP and Collingwood. That's it. Not to mention you only have one good bowler. But thankyou for your concern, it is appreciated :)hahah yer it makes no sense.
belfast_bomber
14 Dec 2006, 19:32
a shame he can't play Test cricket though.
so he does have some english in him then...
Blues_Man
15 Dec 2006, 14:55
Test averages say differently though ;).
Symonds is a great ODI player, but ordinary test cricketer. If this was not the case he would have played a lot more test cricket, for someone that has been on the international scene as long as he has.
The reason Symmo has not played more test cricket is because the world champion side is very hard to break into.....i think your love of the poms has made you a little biased if you believe that Giles is even half the cricketer than Symmo is .
The reason Symmo has not played more test cricket is because the world champion side is very hard to break into.....i think your love of the poms has made you a little biased if you believe that Giles is even half the cricketer than Symmo is .
Did you see the sarcastic wink? :rolleyes:
Symmo is 10 times the player Giles is. Giles wouldn't play shield cricket in Australia.
He was great today. Started brilliantly in the field, bowled a great line and length, picked up 2 crucial wickets. When Ponting had the field back he was infront of us, the reception he got everytime was great.
When was the last time Giles took 2/8 ?
funkyfreo
15 Dec 2006, 21:02
Ahh well it was a good stat to try and heckle with - fun while it lasted - What were Freddie and Jones thinking!!!!
Surely Read could not be much worse a bat. Looking at MOnty today it wouldn't surprise me if this Read who can;t bat scores back to back tons in dead rubbers in Melb and Syd!
usalion
15 Dec 2006, 21:07
So Symonds being born in England is a full on Aussie yet English plaers born in England are considered foreigners and picking any player not born in england is a disgrace
Hypocrites
Wow- ONE player who didn't get born in Australia, but grew up here- moved when he was three or four, IIRC....
Let's run down the number in your 11 not born in England....
Strauss
Skunk Boy
Jones
And we can go back over previous teams with guys like Hick, Robin smith etc etc who were not English
From memory, you can name Roy and Wessels from about the last 25 years....
Get over it, ed....
funkyfreo
15 Dec 2006, 21:13
Wow- ONE player who didn't get born in Australia, but grew up here- moved when he was three or four, IIRC....
Let's run down the number in your 11 not born in England....
Strauss
Skunk Boy
Jones
And we can go back over previous teams with guys like Hick, Robin smith etc etc who were not English
From memory, you can name Roy and Wessels from about the last 25 years....
Get over it, ed....
Go start the greatest empire the world has ever seen if it you bothers you that much mate.
ManWithNoName
15 Dec 2006, 21:16
Go start the greatest empire the world has ever seen if it you bothers you that much mate.
What've the Romans got to do with this?
I have to say it...What've the Romans ever done for US?
funkyfreo
15 Dec 2006, 21:17
What've the Romans got to do with this?
I have to say it...What've the Romans ever done for US?
Romans Shmonans.
usalion
15 Dec 2006, 21:20
Go start the greatest empire the world has ever seen if it you bothers you that much mate.
WTF are YOU on about? Record is pretty clear, actually....one or two Aussies a generation born outside Australia
Two or three English born outside of the UK each series....
Pretty clear who can be called the mercenaries....
funkyfreo
15 Dec 2006, 21:24
WTF are YOU on about? Record is pretty clear, actually....one or two Aussies a generation born outside Australia
Two or three English born outside of the UK each series....
Pretty clear who can be called the mercenaries....
I don't disagree - just pointing out when you were the greatest global power for 150 years, and the world's population all want to come to your great proud land to prosper, well then I think whinging about it is sour grapes.
Next you will say the USA's basketball prowess is all down to African immigrants.
;)
I don't disagree - just pointing out when you were the greatest global power for 150 years, and the world's population all want to come to your great proud land to prosper, well then I think whinging about it is sour grapes.
Next you will say the USA's basketball prowess is all down to African immigrants.
;)
Spot on, it is down to the african immigrants. Africa was robbed i tells ya ;)
What've the Romans got to do with this?
I have to say it...What've the Romans ever done for US?
they built roads
Kapow!!!
Teh romans, they are coming! :D