View Full Version : Cheynee Stiller
Lady Lawrence
19 Jan 2007, 15:02
over to you - Notting18 & Tim the Toolman
danielcanberra
17 Mar 2007, 21:33
OMG it is about time we discussed Mr Stiller.
He was a stand out tonight in the 2007 NAB Cup Grand Final (against the Blues).
He was our best player , well done young fella you were great:thumbsu:
Kristof
22 Mar 2007, 04:05
This is going to sound ignorant - but I had honestly never heard of this guy. Seems a gun -
This is going to sound ignorant - but I had honestly never heard of this guy. Seems a gun -
Started last year as a first year rookie with not a lot of hype. Got elevated about round 3 -- generally to the surprise of most, as Roe was still a rookie at that stage -- and did ok without drawing a lot of attention. Got a Rising Star later in the season and showed an unusual ability for finding the ball -- averaged 20 possessions a game by seasons end.
Good pace, decent engine for a 20yo, kicks pretty well.
Pretty much caught all of us by surprise, so not that unbelievable you'd missed him.
danielcanberra
27 Mar 2007, 16:47
A champ in the making
http://lions.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsId=40046
Top-eight finish the aim: Stiller
Simon White for Brisbane Lions Football Club
The Brisbane Lions can aim for a top-eight finish in 2007, according to emerging utility Cheynee Stiller.
Stiller, who started 2006 as a rookie before being elevated to the senior list and playing 13 games, is one of a clutch of young cubs to emerge at the Gabba in the past two seasons. He is confident he and his fellow youngsters can merge with more seasoned campaigners – including several returning from injury – to form a more competitive outfit.
"I think we are a realistic shot at making the eight," Stiller told lions.com.au. "I suppose a lot of teams will say the same if all their good players are able to get out on the field. But we have a lot of experienced players who should play a fair bit more footy this year and a bunch of younger guys who now have a few games behind them. I definitely think we can look at the finals."
This time last year, most observers didn't envision Stiller being in the reckoning for a regular senior berth – he hadn’t played in either of the Lions' 2006 NAB Cup matches. Even now, after a debut season in which he averaged better than 20 disposals a match, the 20-year-old still believes his spot in the side is one he'll have to fight for.
"I feel like I’m a better player than I was going into last year. I've got another AFL pre-season under my belt and I've had the summer to work on some of my weaknesses," he said.
"But, to be honest, I don't really feel too different to this time last year. I'm a little more confident having played a few games, but there are going to be a lot of guys back from injury and there is going to be competition for spots."
Competition from resuming veterans or not, the Lions' NAB Cup campaign was further evidence of the exciting young talent at the club. While 2006 wasn't a watershed year for the club – only seven wins and a 13th-place finish – Stiller hopes the growing pains associated with blooding 10 debutants, on top of 11 in 2005, have long-term benefits.
"Last year was unfortunate with injuries and the way the team went. But I guess it gave some of us younger guys opportunities to play and helped the club to find a few players for the future," Stiller said.
"Without some of the more experienced guys, like ‘Vossy’ (Michael Voss) and ‘Leppa’ (Justin Leppitsch), who were still playing last year, it's now almost like the younger generation makes up the majority. There is a really good atmosphere around the place and I think we showed that in the NAB Cup. There had been a bit of bad press about us last year and over the pre-season – we wanted to show we didn't deserve it by playing well in the NAB Cup."
Of course the Lions' fortunes in 2007 will also be heavily dependent on the contributions of the club's more experienced players, including recently named co-captains Jonathan Brown and Nigel Lappin, both of whom missed chunks of the past two seasons – in Lappin's case the entirety of 2006 – with injury. Stiller believes the unique five-captain model unveiled by the club last week will have few, if any, drawbacks and plenty of benefits.
"It might look unusual but I really don't think it's going to be strange at all," Stiller said..
"We've had those five guys as the leadership group since the start of pre-season training and we've got used to that. This way there will always be a captain around when you need one. I think it will work really well."
... recently named co-captains Jonathan Brown and Nigel Lappin, both of whom missed chunks of the past two seasons – in Lappin's case the entirety of 2006 – with injury.
'The entirety of 2006'?
Simon, that's an ugly turn of phase.
Cheynee has started the year in great style. He continues to be a ball magnet with over 20 possessions per game in each of the first two rounds. What has been most impressive for me though is the improvement that he has shown in other aspects of his game. I have noticed that in each of the first two rounds and in the preseason he was given a specific defensive task which seemed to be his number 1 priority. He has concentrated on shutting down his player first and foremost and as the game progresses work more into the game offensively. As a consequence he has much better awareness of where his man is and is much quicker to pick him up or move to his defensive assignment.
His disposals also seem to have improved nicely from last year. He is hurting teams with his disposals much more than last year as now he is consistently hitting his targets and just as importantly picking the right target to go to. Another thing which is evident is that he is moving things on much quicker than last year as well.
At the end of last year he was one of the main culprits of the Lions young guys tendency to stop, prop and slow everything down and allow oppositions to recover and match up. This year is has shown great judgement in when to slow things up, when to move it on and when to take on the man himself.
If he continues to develop as he has been he might well be a champion of the competition. He has all the tools and is working very hard to address the problems that existed in his game.
Grimreepah
9 May 2007, 03:11
Link (http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/matthews-hails-cocaptains/2007/05/06/1178390141457.html)
Matthews likened Harding's speed and ability to clear the ball from congested areas as reminiscent of Jason Akermanis, while Stiller, who was tagged yesterday, "just worked and worked and worked and eventually broke (Ryan) Crowley".
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2091/stillerwh4.jpg
Grimreepah
23 May 2007, 01:20
Link (http://lions.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsId=43689) (warning - this is an Afl.com link)
Stiller chance to play
3:05:00 PM Mon 21 May, 2007
for lions.com.au
Cheynee Stiller may yet line-up for the Lions this Saturday night against Collingwood despite spraining his ankle on the weekend.
Stiller fell awkwardly on his ankle after a marking contest during the final quarter of Saturday's match against the Bombers and failed to take any further par in the match.
He was cleared on any major damage and will be hoping to recover by Saturday night.
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Grimreepah
11 Sep 2007, 01:16
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2290/drummondsc8.jpg
Cheynee Stiller and Josh Drummond were both picked in the inaugural Queensland Team of the Year.
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Cheynee Stiller and Josh Drummond were both picked in the inaugural Queensland Team of the Year.
That team is a bit of a joke. Mitch Hahn was named in the centre but has barely played all year. Bushy was named as ruck rover - barely played on-ball all year. Harding was named rover - dropped more often than red-headed teenager.
It's a nice idea but I don't think Queensland footy is developed enough to make this team worthy.
Grimreepah
12 Sep 2007, 10:13
Link (http://lions.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsId=50967)
2007 Queensland Team of the Year
8:46 AM Wed 12 September, 2007
Ron McDonald
for lions.com.au
Stiller, who played all 22 games for the Lions in 2007, was delighted to have gained selection in the team, which will be selected on an annual basis and announced at the AFLQ Awards Dinner each September.
“It’s a nice honour and reward for having a good season,” Stiller said.
“Queensland footy has gone ahead in leaps and bounds over the last few years and it’s a credit to AFLQ that they now have enough players in the AFL to put a team together. Probably a few years ago they wouldn’t have been able to do that.”
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6/stillerdu1.jpg
Grimreepah
31 Oct 2007, 15:04
End of Season Player Review
After playing 13 games as an elevated rookie in 2006, Stiller started the year on the senior list for the first time. He had a consistent year, playing all 22 games and getting 14 disposals or more in every game bar one. He was one of our leading disposal getters for the year, averaging 20.2 a game, and finished 7th in the B&F.
But Stiller is the type of player that can be a big possession getter without you really noticing. Although he is phlegmatic and not very flamboyant, this is also indicative of his strengths and weaknesses. He is a terrific runner which allows him to find space to receive the ball (he was 2nd in marks for the Lions in 07). But while he doesn’t shirk the contest, he is not a big winner of contested ball, and while he is a nice kick on his left, he can probably get better at knowing how best to kick it to advantage.
Cheynee now has 35 games under his belt (playing the last 33 straight) and being a prolific possession getter has already been tagged on occasion. One area he has improved throughout the year is the ability to play on quickly, and if he can continue to improve the hurt factor in his game he has the makings of a very good player.
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8626/stillerhw3.jpg
danielcanberra
25 Nov 2007, 10:20
Aside from Bozo, Chinny is the least posted about player on this board.
2008 will be the Year of the Stiller.
notting18
25 Nov 2007, 11:12
Aside from Bozo, Chinny is the least posted about player on this board.
2008 will be the Year of the Stiller.
He had a great year in 2007 building momentum for future years though. He may not get the coverage of other young players, but that may be a positive. We all saw what happened after Sherman, who never had a problem being talked about, had a slower year.
The Flying Belgian
25 Nov 2007, 13:17
Have grown to be a big fan of Phyllis.
Quigley
25 Nov 2007, 17:34
Although I didn't post much on this thread I think I did talk him up plenty in my match reports. His ability to find the ball and his improving disposal makes me think he will become a very important player for us. He seems like the natural successor to Nigel at the moment.
Dylan12
25 Nov 2007, 21:06
I really rate this kid now and am pretty confident that when he has the ball he usually uses it better than most. Has good composure and i think the match committee pretty much has him in the top 22, a decision i am very comfortable with. If he maintains his form whilst stepping up another level, we could be seeing the makings of a left footed Nigel Lappin as per Quigs' comments - a big call, but if he is half as good as Nige, i am satisified.
Grimreepah
17 Jan 2008, 10:35
Stiller came first in the 3km time trial (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/News/NewsArticle/Default.aspx?newsId=54644) which I suppose makes him our best runner.
TheBrownDog
14 Feb 2008, 02:35
Top 6 players for Clangers 2007
S. Tuck RICH - 33
L. Montagna STK - 32
M. Priddis WCE - 30
C. Stiller BRIS - 30
S. Thompson ADEL - 30
M. Boyd W.B. - 29
danielcanberra
17 Feb 2008, 18:57
Cheynee Stiller's the one to watch, Nigel Lappin says
Article from: http://www.news.com.au/images/sources/sm_sundaymail.gif
By Damien Stannard (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/author/0,23829,5001322-5003410,00.html)
February 17, 2008 12:00am
IN Melbourne's AFL circle the only Brisbane Lions players with household names are Simon Black, Jonathan Brown, Nigel Lappin, Jamie Charman and Luke Power.
Jed Adcock, Rhan Hooper and Jared Brennan could be anything but they are not there yet.
According to Lappin, there is one player whose blissful anonymity is about to be shattered – Cheynee Stiller.
Stiller is entering his third season on the club's list after averaging more than 20 disposals in each of the past two years.
To put that in perspective, three-time club champion Black averaged 12 and 18 touches in his first two seasons.
Last year, Stiller finished seventh in the club's best and fairest after playing in every game yet the Queenslander still sneaks under the radar.
Opposition coaches prefer to apply their taggers to Black, Lappin and Power.
"That won't happen forever. He'll start playing more of an active, getting role," Lappin said.
Stiller joined the club from the Northern Eagles and was promoted to the primary list in 2006.
Other 2005 draftees have had a higher profile but none have worked harder.
Carlton's Marc Murphy was that year's top pick and Magpie Dale Thomas went at No.2 yet neither can boast the Lions' wingman's statistics.
"There's a lot of guys who are paid more than him who don't do as good a job," Lappin said.
"He's very loyal and I hope he stays around the club a long time and the club stands by him."
Respect travels both ways between the two.
Both are elite runners and use the ball well and Stiller openly admits he models his game on the Lions co-captain.
"I've always admired Nigel as I was growing up and since I've been at the club I admire him more," the 21-year-old said.
"I suppose I benefit from having so many good players in the midfield. Nigel came back last year and this year we've added Travis Johnstone.
"We're able to rotate the midfield and if one of the players is down there's always someone else to step up."
Stiller was among the fittest at the club during the pre-season winning the 3km time trial in 9min 57secs.
He is proud of his pre-season efforts but wants to play a more versatile hand this year.
"Possession stats are good to evaluate your game and you like to get good numbers but things like tackles, spoils and defensive pressure are more impressive," he said.
Stiller wants to offer coach Leigh Matthews an extra on-ball option as well as the ability to play in defence.
Such gut-busting fitness and multi-skilling will come in handy during the Lions' NAB Cup campaign, with coaches only allowed to make 16 rotations each quarter.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23225037-5003410,00.html
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I suspect Damien may have read Warwick's analysis of Cheynee compared to others drafted in the same year.
Lace Out
18 Feb 2008, 10:50
I suspect Damien may have read Warwick's analysis of Cheynee compared to others drafted in the same year.
Thought I'd read that somewhere else.Coincidence is unlikely.
TheBrownDog
13 Mar 2008, 13:06
There is a full-page article about Stiller in this week's Inside Football (yeah i know its a trash rag but it helps kill the break between lectures).
I don't have time to type the whole article because its a page long, but the key points are...
- He was a highly vaunted talent in both Aussie Rules and Rugby League as a kid. He was selected in under 12 rep sides for both and had to make a choice... he went with Aussie Rules.
- Since he made the change he doesn't even watch Rugby League on TV anymore, as he finds its two 'monotonous' and 'two-dimensional' compared to AFL with too much running in straight lines. There is more 'thinking' involved in AFL.
- He has been playing with groin niggles for the past two years. These niggles have now been sorted and he has had his first unhindered pre-season this year. Reckons he pushed his young body too hard in the first couple of years, but now feels like his body has caught up.
- The Lions rate him as a key player in the new generation.
- He said that the Lions are excellent at finding the balance between giving young guys senior experience but not over-doing it.
- Also said that he is one of several players approaching the 50 game milestone and that with the dropping of the 'kid' title he will be expected to perform at a high level on a consistent basis.
- The article points out that he has averaged just 20 possessions a game over his first 35 games, Simon Black averaged 16.
- His name is pronounced Chay-nee, not Shaney.
chopperduck
13 Mar 2008, 16:57
always liked the way stiller goes about his game, and is very simular to how nig plays his game. nothing wrong with getting another nice link man in our team.
while he has sometimes been a lil poor with his disposal, it certainly isn't any worse than others in our team the past 2 years and he is still learning. it will improve. he manages to find it 20 times a game which is a very good base to start with.
was a guy who sat a few rows behind us last year who always trash talked stiller bout his disposal. half the time it wasn't his fault, there wasn't much to kick to or it was a very outnumbered contest.
but i can't say ive never seen him give up or not have a go, and thats a good starting base too. will only improve
Yeah, look, I've never had a problem with Stiller's disposal. Sure, you can find dud kicks from anyone if you look long enough, but I've never felt particularly nervous with the ball in Cheynee's hands. Mid season last year he was often the one cruising down a wing only to look up and see Browny triple teamed and nothing else on. Where other blaze away he tends to be the type to shorten the stride, the eyes dart around, looking for a better option while the wolves close in.
Don't know if you can knock his kicking efficiency for taking responsibility for the play.
Lace Out
13 Mar 2008, 20:32
Looking forward to his season,I really cant see him being an A grader but this is probably the year we find out.Its difficult to assess how improvement is left with guys like Cheynee.
The Flying Belgian
13 Mar 2008, 20:51
A couple of years ago when he started out on our rookie I asked someone that watched a bit of local footy who they'd equate him to. They said Ryan Lonie. Hmmm...
possum8
13 Mar 2008, 23:42
2 Years, averaging 20 disposals a game. Has good decision making, stamina and seems pretty switched on.
I rate him very highly and would not leave him out of my 22.
I'm on the Stiller bandwagon.
A couple of years ago when he started out on our rookie I asked someone that watched a bit of local footy who they'd equate him to. They said Ryan Lonie. Hmmm...
That's alright. I think I said Aaron Fiora!
2 Years, averaging 20 disposals a game. Has good decision making, stamina and seems pretty switched on.
I rate him very highly and would not leave him out of my 22.
I'm on the Stiller bandwagon.
Me too,I think he is very underated.
nameless
15 Mar 2008, 00:52
I think im one of the few people from oppositions clubs who appreciates this guy. There is so much talk of murphy, nathan jones etc. This guy has smashed their averages, playing in a similar sort of team - lots of injuries, not making finals etc.
Wonder if you guys didnt have no many injuries in 06, if he would have been given as much opportunity. He is a solid kick and mark...and tackle - great AFL player.
I think im one of the few people from oppositions clubs who appreciates this guy. There is so much talk of murphy, nathan jones etc. This guy has smashed their averages, playing in a similar sort of team - lots of injuries, not making finals etc.
Wonder if you guys didnt have no many injuries in 06, if he would have been given as much opportunity. He is a solid kick and mark...and tackle - great AFL player.
Very true. You can only imagine the number of similarly talented rookies who may well have gone on to play 200 games if given the chance, but that instead sat out their time playing good footy without ever getting a spot.
I know I was pretty keen to see Jason Roe get elevated, and so was a little deflated when they first picked Stiller. He looked more like a work experience kid so he was tagged 'Cheynee the Trainee'.
Injuries really only hurt you (as you would know only too well) when they hit you during your flag window, because it takes you years to get back to the position.
Hey,
Just wanted your opions on stiller being dropped from the 1's. After watching the match against the pies i felt stiller would have been a good inclusion, and after a solid season last year he shouldn't have been dropped for one below par performance. I rate this guy massively he runs all day and has an elite running base after only 1 full season of afl. Im just wondering if he is carrying an injury or there is any other contributing factors to him getting dropped? Did he play for suncoast on friday ?
Look forward to your thoughts.
Hey,
Just wanted your opions on stiller being dropped from the 1's. After watching the match against the pies i felt stiller would have been a good inclusion, and after a solid season last year he shouldn't have been dropped for one below par performance. I rate this guy massively he runs all day and has an elite running base after only 1 full season of afl. Im just wondering if he is carrying an injury or there is any other contributing factors to him getting dropped? Did he play for suncoast on friday ?
Look forward to your thoughts.
so who do you think should be dropped to pave the way for cheynee to stroll back into the side?
Most of us were surprised he got dropped -- wasn't mentioned in any pregame discussions as being in the gun. Bit hard to say when he'll be back when it isn't clear why they dropped him.
Well i think sherman was poor. And i would rather cheynee in them him. I think cheynee was playing exceptional footy and his stats back that up, it seems he had a few average games including nab cup, so maybe they have sent him back to suncoast to shake him a bit make sure he dosnt have a false sense of security about his position in the team, thats all i can really think of.
chopperduck
2 Apr 2008, 13:53
Well i think sherman was poor. And i would rather cheynee in them him. I think cheynee was playing exceptional footy and his stats back that up, it seems he had a few average games including nab cup, so maybe they have sent him back to suncoast to shake him a bit make sure he dosnt have a false sense of security about his position in the team, thats all i can really think of.
i would imagine it would be along these lines as selwood was also dropped and, agree or not, is picked in our teams 22 no questions.
stiller does well, but does waste the ball a bit sometimes and i think has gotten a lil worse lately, however, im sure this is something that will improve with game time. was a simular thing with selwood, didn't really play bad, but should have done a bit better round 1. maybe a week or 2 in the 2's will let them find a bit of fight and maybe shake them a lil.
with bushy and maybe ash back in this week, shall be interesting if both stiller and selwood get back in, as that would mean dropping 4 players from our winning side
Yeah i think your right i cant see them getting back in this week. I think henderson might be given another game and Bradshaw will go down back which would make me think ash will play he is always good for a couple of goals. Proud played well and deserves another game so only outs i can see are drummo obviously and possibly shermo.
TheBrownDog
2 Apr 2008, 18:42
Yeah i think your right i cant see them getting back in this week. I think henderson might be given another game and Bradshaw will go down back which would make me think ash will play he is always good for a couple of goals. Proud played well and deserves another game so only outs i can see are drummo obviously and possibly shermo.
Yeah, Hendo will get another go. I think Leigh said something last year about how he doesnt like to bring someone in for one game then drop them.
chopperduck
2 Apr 2008, 19:43
i think also lethals comments after the game of that it wasn't a great game for a marking type play like him to debut in shows he will get another go too. they want to see him play in conditions that suit him to give him a true go
Grimreepah
11 Apr 2008, 02:53
Link (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4711-0-0-0&sID=56333&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5279379§ionID=56333)
Regular Lions senior player Cheynee Stiller, used mostly in defence in the opening round loss to Morningside, dominated the midfield and used the ball precisely.
Link (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4711-0-0-0&sID=56333&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5290249§ionID=56333)
Votes Suncoast Lions v Labrador
5 Votes Cheynee Stiller Suncoast Lions
4 Votes Bradd Dalziell Suncoast Lions
3 Votes Trent Knobel Labrador
2 Votes Scott Harding Suncoast Lions
1 Vote Scott Clouston Suncoast Lions
Link (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,23519276-5016169,00.html)
Stiller is a tireless runner and a penetrating kick and coach Leigh Matthews will be hoping he can convert his best-on-ground performance in the reserves on Saturday on to the big stage at West Lakes.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1119/stillerzm4.jpg
ZoBlitz
11 Apr 2008, 08:59
He can find the ball but I think he needs to learn to be more damaging when he gets the ball. I remember games where he'll get over 20 possessions but not really do anything with the ball.
Fairley
11 Apr 2008, 12:53
I hope Cheynee comes out tomorrow night, plays a good hard solid game, gets all his confidence back and plays every game left in the season.
chopperduck
11 Apr 2008, 15:03
I hope Cheynee comes out tomorrow night, plays a good hard solid game, gets all his confidence back and plays every game left in the season.
would love to see the same. as said above, he does seem to average around 20 possies without really doing anything tho. hopefully he will use it the ball better as he goes on, but its a great start if you can find it 20 times when you start, usually the rookies have trouble getting the ball first up.
possum8
11 Apr 2008, 18:13
He can find the ball but I think he needs to learn to be more damaging when he gets the ball. I remember games where he'll get over 20 possessions but not really do anything with the ball.
Didn't really have much to kick to last year to be honest. What i would like Chinny to do is to kick some goals for himself. He seems to get all the space in the world half the time and could run in goals if we setup our forward line properly.
ZoBlitz
11 Apr 2008, 19:34
Didn't really have much to kick to last year to be honest. What i would like Chinny to do is to kick some goals for himself. He seems to get all the space in the world half the time and could run in goals if we setup our forward line properly.
You're right, he is the type of midfielder who should be getting forward and kicking goals.
brisbanelioness
11 Apr 2008, 22:05
Really glad to see Cheynee back. I think he's a great player and contributor with a big motor. We're are going to need that Saturday night.
Average game, but that kick from the boundary....
Switched us from 'fantasy win' to 'boys, this is dead set on'. Beautifaul kick.
ZoBlitz
15 Apr 2008, 08:47
Hopefully he can kick on from this win...
Havent seen the Melbourne game yet but I am interested there has been so little comment on Cheynee recently.
Now that we have talk up both Riskya Telli and Sherman till they have found form, can we start the proceess on Cheynee. He is another we need "to take the next step" this year. I have to say I find it hard to rate him as a footballer. Sometimes he looks ordinary and other times he looks like the greatest bargin as a rookie promotion in the history of the game.
How did he go against the Ds and what do those posters who see him regularly think he needs to do TTTNS?
notting18
29 Apr 2008, 14:26
How did he go against the Ds and what do those posters who see him regularly think he needs to do TTTNS?
IMO he looked really good against the Dees, providing a lot of run off half back. However, there wasn't a lot of time when it was down back to need to be brought forward. I also think he had quite a few telling possessions that "hurt" which has been one of the criticisms of him.
Yeah, I'm not so sure. Looks to be treading water a bit to me.
But that's ok. Rischa, Sherman, Selwood, Harding, Hooper, etc have all gone through flattish periods and look to be coming out the other side. He can play and the game is evolving towards his strengths.
Grimreepah
15 May 2008, 22:21
Stiller dropped again. Bit unlucky I would have thought, but he seems to have fallen out of favour somewhat. Wouldn't have imagined Sherman, Harding and Selwood getting a game ahead of him at the start of the year. Maybe it's a matter of pace and a bit like Hadley last year finds himself on the outer as the club looks to inject pace and cull a slowy.
I don't think I am breaking any news here but I just think that Matthews demands that his players play a team oriented and disciplined game. I reckon he has pretty much said "Right, if you blokes can't do the team things, then you won't stay in the side". It is not about turning them into a bunch of taggers but simply saying that each player needs to be able to play accountable footy on his opponent when circumstances demand. It is also about telling the players that Black, Power and Lappin have earnt the right to focus on the footy and not really worry about their opponent - these young blokes haven't.
It is a lesson that Shermo and Riska have learnt - to start from the role you've been given and then worry about what else you can contribute. Maybe Phyllis, Albie etc have to learn the same thing.
KungFooSing
14 Jun 2008, 21:35
Someone needs to point out to Cheynee that the blokes in different jumpers to his are his opposition and he needs to get rid of the ball before they get near him.
Grimreepah
14 Jun 2008, 21:55
Someone needs to point out to Cheynee that the blokes in different jumpers to his are his opposition and he needs to get rid of the ball before they get near him.
Problem was our lack of run which makes everyone's decision making and disposal look bad. Stiller worked hard to give someone to kick it to, and got plenty of the ball, but didn't have much to kick to himself, and he doesn't have the pace to take players on.
KungFooSing
14 Jun 2008, 22:34
It wasn't just this game, its every game. This is the first senior game he's played since I've joined BF, so its the first time I've felt the need to comment.
charles202
15 Jun 2008, 21:04
I really hope that Cheynee is given the next 6 weeks to make a case for himself.
He doesnt deserve to get judged solely on a game that most our players had their colours lowered.
yep he deserves another run. geez he looked like the only guy out there trying to offer a target. he'd run to space to get it from a kick in, only to turn and see that there was absolutely no-one else to kick to.
Our young blokes, like everyone, weren't particularly effective, but were at least valiant IMO. It's the older guys, I think who should be putting their hands up for this one.
On disclosed form, I'd prefer him any day of the week to "fall over" Selwood.
At least Stiller goes and gets the ball and looks like he's interested in spotting up a target forward, rather than backwards.
yep he deserves another run. geez he looked like the only guy out there trying to offer a target. he'd run to space to get it from a kick in, only to turn and see that there was absolutely no-one else to kick to.
Our young blokes, like everyone, weren't particularly effective, but were at least valiant IMO. It's the older guys, I think who should be putting their hands up for this one.
we don't have too many of those though and brown was forced out on the wing all day.
Grimreepah
21 Jun 2008, 01:03
Link (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,23896216-10389,00.html)
Stiller, who has taken Sherman's place, was called in from outside the 25-man squad named on Thursday which could lead to a $5000 fine.
The AFL football operations department will rule on the change early next week, but is likely to be satisfied with Brisbane's explanation that Stiller was a like-for-like replacement and decide against imposing a fine.
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9095/stiller13lr4.jpg
Grimreepah
10 Aug 2008, 10:52
AFLQ (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4711-0-0-0&sID=56333&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=6187686§ionID=56333)
Cheynee Stiller did plenty of good things in the midfield and used the ball cleverly. Stiller played wide of Eagles ace Matthew Payne in a roving role, Payne too being a significant factor in the game.
Despite carrying a heavy flu into the game, he racked up 30 possessions until being rested halfway through the last quarter.
He received plenty of buffeting at the stoppages, but produced his usual workrate to win the ball in all parts of the field.