Joel Tippett

[The Flying Belgian]

Thought I'd kick this off with an article on Joel. Hard not to get excited when you hear about his physical attributes. Still, being an athlete doesn't necessarily make you a footballer.

http://www.aflq.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=114149

I'm yet to see this young fella at training yet - I'm thinking my first glimpse will be at the intraclub.

[POBT]

Hard not to get excited when you hear about his physical attributes.
Edited. Think you missed a word there TFB.

Unbelievably results though. A long way from being a footballer but at least his athletic prowess won't hold him back.

[betterthanu]

exciting family!!!!!!

[Grimreepah]

Tippett's bio (http://www.southportsharks.com.au/profilesDetail.asp?PlID=53)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/981/tippettrh2.jpg

Without the rookie system these sort of players would probably never get a chance.

Does anyone think there may be some sort of ethical breach by pinching the best athletes from other sports? The game of basketball has lost out with the defection of the Tippett brothers.

[John]

Without the rookie system these sort of players would probably never get a chance.

Does anyone think there may be some sort of ethical breach by pinching the best athletes from other sports? The game of basketball has lost out with the defection of the Tippett brothers.

No Grim. Thats life. They have the choice to stay or go.

[POBT]

Without the rookie system these sort of players would probably never get a chance.


Keep in mind that Joel would have played u/18s next year as an over-aged player. So potentially he could have been drafted next year. But you are right - Joel's going to have the chance to cement a spot on our list 12 months before he would otherwise be considered. And as long as his attitude is right, you'd think he will get 2 years to prove he's worth persevering with.

Does anyone think there may be some sort of ethical breach by pinching the best athletes from other sports? The game of basketball has lost out with the defection of the Tippett brothers.

The opportunities to make a professional career of basketball in Australia are very limited. You have to be one of the most outstanding basketballers of your age/State to even get an opportunity at the professional level. Look at the Bullets roster. They list a roster of 12 players. 2 are imported players, leaving 10 places for Australasian players. Then there are "career" basketballers who take up most of the roster. There are then 3 "rookie types" from Queensland, the youngest of which is 23.

So, in basketball, you have smaller leagues, smaller playing rosters, less places for "developing" players and "older" rosters. Unless the Tippetts were superstars in the making, they are probably 4-5 years away from being able to actually play basketball full time professionally and even then, it is not a foregone conclusion.

I don't think that ethics are an issue - basketball is too much of a fringe sport comparatively to compete with the AFL. Where basketball can compete is in its international presence. Andrew Bogut would have been a pretty decent ruckman but I don't think we had much chance of poaching him!

[irel]

Thought I'd kick this off with an article on Joel. Hard to get excited when you hear about his physical attributes. Still, being an athlete doesn't necessarily make you a footballer.

http://www.aflq.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=114149

I'm yet to see this young fella at training yet - I'm thinking my first glimpse will be at the intraclub.
Finally we have someone with the ability to win the Grand Final half-time sprint race!

[TheBrownDog]

Finally we have someone with the ability to win the Grand Final half-time sprint race!

Give the Berger a run.

[Quigley]

Those are phenominal stats. With these types of reports though I always think of the investing maxim - if something looks too good to be true it probably is. That being said though if he is even close to those figures Joel makes one hell of an interesting prospect. Especially those agility scores. If he can keep that speed and agility as he puts on some weight he is going to be a nightmare match up. Usually the basketball guys have pretty fair hands and hopefully he takes after his brother in also being a pretty good kick for goal.

TFB - I will be interested in your reports over the year to see where he is playing and what his skills are like. I read all the reports coming out after the draft and no-one actually had down where he played. I was assuming ruck but with his brother and Renouf at Southport I was thinking maybe not. With the other ruck prospects at the Lions maybe they might aim to try him at key position.

When the Lions selected him I was wondering why they were taking another ruck prospect. With those scores though I can understand it. With that kind of athletic ability you have to give him a shot even if it is only on the rookie list.

[The Flying Belgian]

Yeah, I remember when a young big fella who hadn't played much footy and put in some scorching results at a state screening test, particularly the 20m sprint and the beep test. Went by the name of D. Merrett. Enough said.

I've not seen him play at all, but I picked him as I though he may be the most interesting study. From the little I can remember from reading the AFLQ reports last season he was rucking - at one stage fairly early in the year Southport were missing 3 or 4 of their ruckmen, hence Joel getting a go very early on in his development.

[danielcanberra]

From henceforth, I will refer to him as Mister Tippett. I don't know why, but we have too many Joels, plus just calling him Tippett sounds a bit impolite.

[irel]

From henceforth, I will refer to him as Mister Tippett. I don't know why, but we have too many Joels, plus just calling him Tippett sounds a bit impolite.

K D Lang suits better.

http://venus.provocateuse.com/images/photos/kd_lang_10.jpg



http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6901791&postcount=41

[danielcanberra]

K D Lang suits better.

http://venus.provocateuse.com/images/photos/kd_lang_10.jpg

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6901791&postcount=41

How rude! He's Mister Tippett to you, or Sir. :p

[TheBrownDog]

The Tippster has a broken thumb.

[The Flying Belgian]

Returned this weekend was listed as BOG for Suncoast, despite being pantsed by Mt. Gravatt. Rucked against fellow newbie Joel Smouha.

This from www.aflq.com.au:

The third term was the Lions’ best, when young ruckman Joel Tippett took control at the centre bounces and effected a string of clearances.

[charles202]

Returned this weekend was listed as BOG for Suncoast, despite being pantsed by Mt. Gravatt. Rucked against fellow newbie Joel Smouha.

This from www.aflq.com.au: (http://www.aflq.com.au:)

With the log jam that we have in our ruckstocks i would love to see this guy developed into a Full Forward.

[The Flying Belgian]

With the log jam that we have in our ruckstocks i would love to see this guy developed into a Full Forward.


Unfortunately, Joel is the only ruckman we have ATM. Mills played in the ruack a bit for Suncoast the previous week.

[Quigley]

Well there should be a pretty good AFL level ruck playing for the Suncoast this week to give Joel a few tips.

[charles202]

Unfortunately, Joel is the only ruckman we have ATM. Mills played in the ruack a bit for Suncoast the previous week.

Thanks for the update FB, excuse my ignorance :p

[Grimreepah]

End of Season Player Review

Heading into draft there was plenty of hype about brother Kurt, but Joel was an unknown and was somewhat of a surprise to be picked up on the rookie list. Joel is the quintessential ‘project player’ who is a sublime athlete but is new to the game. He has spent time in the ruck and as a key position player for Suncoast, but it seems like he still needs time to get up to AFL standard.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4808/tippettiw7.jpg

[Lace Out]

Lights.Camera.Action.

[Fairley]

194cm is much too small for a ruckman... :confused:

[TheBrownDog]

194cm is much too small for a ruckman... :confused:

He'd be taller than that now.

Brendon Lade and Jamie Charman would only be marginally taller than him, and Tippett has a leap like a frog.

[The Flying Belgian]

I was in an elevator with him recently. He got in with Leuey and I was surprised at how tall he looked. I'd seen him last year and thought he was pretty short for a ruckman. I reckon he'd be around 196-198cm. Has bulked up quite a bit from last year too.

[acuguy]

We will all get a good look at him tonight. If Clark continues to have injury woes and Luey or Charman go down at all during the season then Tippett walks into the team.

[BigCat2]

I was in an elevator with him recently. He got in with Leuey and I was surprised at how tall he looked. I'd seen him last year and thought he was pretty short for a ruckman. I reckon he'd be around 196-198cm. Has bulked up quite a bit from last year too.

Yeah not sure if the Tipster has actually grown that much, more to do with inconsistency in his height records. I've seen it listed at 194cm and 199cm. According to CtD(?) he's closer to 199cm.

We drafted him as a project ruckman. IMO if he was 194cm, the club would've more likely considered him as a KPP prospect.

TFB, was he much shorter than Leuey?

[Campbell's Chunky]

I reckon the Tippett brothers will be great for both their respective clubs.

[xplo]

Kurt was 199 last time I saw, they are pretty similar body types. 197 seems to stick in my head from Joel's state screening results. That was a 15-odd months ago now, so I'd be surprised at least 198 now. And, as has been intimated, his leap is phenomenal.

Kurt's vertical leap results were outstanding -- 60-70cm from memory -- but Joel had him covered by 8-10cm. Basically he's in the Leuenberger/Merrett/Brennan mold, as far as freakazoid athletic abilities go, so there's now worries whatsoever about whether he'll be able to physically cut it.

It'll all come down to how quickly JT can get himself some footy smarts. As JBiz and Strawb demonstrate, that doesn't happen overnight.

Some guys need three years to get there, but they only get given two and disappear with barely a ripple. Other blokes struggle for 4 years and then almost instantly are in everyone's 'top 5 most important players'.

Timing helps.

[The Flying Belgian]

I just saw one profile for him at 198cm which could be right. I remember seeing him last year alongside brennan and appearing about the same height. However I think he' hunches over slightly so that can be a bit deceiving. Didn't look as tall as Leuey but measure 5 cm roughly between your thumb and your forefinger and it's not much (particularly if you stand at 6 foot nothing like me).

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=459955)

Ruck stocks 'a bit thin' at Lions
15th February 2008, 18:02 WST

Brisbane Lions coach Leigh Matthews conceded new importance had been placed on Saturday night's NAB Cup opener against Essendon after their ruck stocks were left "a bit thin" following Beau McDonald's retirement.

Rookie Joel Tippett will come under close scrutiny against the Bombers after two-time premiership winner McDonald drew the curtain on his career at 28, leaving a senior ruckman vacancy for 2008.

After Cameron Wood left for Collingwood for Melbourne midfielder Travis Johnstone in a three-way trade in the off-season, Matthews admitted ruck depth could be tested this season with McDonald's departure.

Matthews will run the rule over Tippett in Saturday's game on the Gold Coast as the Lions contemplate who to elevate from their rookie list to replace McDonald.

Brisbane oozes class in the ruckman stocks with Jamie Charman and Matthew Leuenberger on the books.

But Matthews said: "We are a little bit thin below those two now, that's a fact."

"It (the Essendon game) does take on more significance for Joe," he said.

"He's not a big ruckman but quite agile. He will now get his chance to stake a claim to be elevated from the rookie list."

Link (http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=460284)

Rookie Joel Tippett is expected to be elevated this season after ruckman Beau McDonald's retirement and got a sobering taste of senior footy from David Hille (three goals).

"Joel is still a young kid and if Essendon had one advantage it was in the rucks with Hille and (Jason) Laycock, they were two men playing against boys," Leppitsch said.

I thought he did OK but was just monstered out of the contest a bit.

At the end of last season he was probably 6th in line behind Charman, Leuenberger, Wood, McDonald and Clark. Now if Charman or Leuey get injured he could find himself playing in round 1:eek:

[King Woodie]

I can't see the stats? What are they?

[chopperduck]

had a good look at tippett on sat nite, was along the boundry fence where the lions bench were running up and down. him and crackers were walking and he towered over crackers. he also has really wide bulky shoulders. as mentioned, once he gets some footy smarts he should work out pretty well i think. hopefully he isn't needed to play this year tho so he can play a full season in the 2nds to get some game time. we still need charmo and the berg for now tho

[awesome_assassin]

I thought he was ok on Sat night.

Sure he got out-muscled a few times, but the kids only young, he'll improve.

Another season of weights and another pre-season should help out.

[Grimreepah]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8905/tippettjb0.jpg

I know there is some conjecture about his height but Joel is listed at 194cm and 88kgs. He may (or may not) be a bit taller and a bit heavier since those measurements were taken, but based on that he gave up 7cm and 17kgs to Laycock and 7cm and 21kgs to Hille. It's tough to be competitive when you are that much smaller than the opposition.

[TheBrownDog]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8905/tippettjb0.jpg

I know there is some conjecture about his height but Joel is listed at 194cm and 88kgs. He may (or may not) be a bit taller and a bit heavier since those measurements were taken, but based on that he gave up 7cm and 17kgs to Laycock and 7cm and 21kgs to Hille. It's tough to be competitive when you are that much smaller than the opposition.


The 194cm is plain wrong.

He is taller than Charman.

He'd be 198 minimum.

[Grimreepah]

With the log jam that we have in our ruckstocks i would love to see this guy developed into a Full Forward.

This was posted 10 months ago. It's funny how quickly things can change.

Also Joel is now a possibility of debuting before his brother. Who would have thought?

[Grimreepah]

Number 47 did alot of the rucking, i think that is Tippett. He looked really athletic but got totally outmuscled around the ground by Mcintosh.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5567/tippettmq9.jpg

[POBT]

He'd be 198 minimum.

The player profile (http://www.lions.com.au/TheClub/Players/PlayerProfile/tabid/5189/Default.aspx?playerid=15602&typeid=1)on the Lions website mentions that he is 198cm.

[kerr brownlow 08]

Havent seen much of this fella, but the last name just oozes athleticism.
However one thing i am unclear of, was when Beau retired was he elevated from the rookie list? Because correct me if i'm wrong, which i apologize for if i am, he would be ur no.3 ruckman behind leuy and charman, and be first called upon if one went down?

Be seeing you fellas soon now, all the best

Cheers :thumbsu:

[POBT]

Havent seen much of this fella, but the last name just oozes athleticism.
However one thing i am unclear of, was when Beau retired was he elevated from the rookie list? Because correct me if i'm wrong, which i apologize for if i am, he would be ur no.3 ruckman behind leuy and charman, and be first called upon if one went down?

Be seeing you fellas soon now, all the best

Cheers :thumbsu:
He has not been promoted.

[charles202]

This was posted 10 months ago. It's funny how quickly things can change.

Also Joel is now a possibility of debuting before his brother. Who would have thought?

Thanks for that Grim, sorry for the bad typing, still trying to get egg of my face :rolleyes:

[xplo]

Havent seen much of this fella, but the last name just oozes athleticism.
However one thing i am unclear of, was when Beau retired was he elevated from the rookie list? Because correct me if i'm wrong, which i apologize for if i am, he would be ur no.3 ruckman behind leuy and charman, and be first called upon if one went down?

Be seeing you fellas soon now, all the best

Cheers :thumbsu:

Mitch Clark might be considered our 3rd ruck now, although he's played almost exclusively as a forward. Tippett's prospects have definitely bloomed since Beau pulled the pin.

[Grimreepah]

Thanks for that Grim, sorry for the bad typing, still trying to get egg of my face :rolleyes:

Sorry for singling you out Charles. I think many of us would have been thinking along a similar line at the time. But yeah, I think young Tippett should now be focusing on his ruck work.;)

[SuperHooper]

Tippet or Corrie?

[danielcanberra]

Mitch Clark might be considered our 3rd ruck now, although he's played almost exclusively as a forward. Tippett's prospects have definitely bloomed since Beau pulled the pin.

Mitch won't be played there at all.

I thought so too, but have been told that Mr Tippett is the 3rd, and from reports, he is coming along beautifully.

I wouldn't want Mitch rucking while he is still going through growing pains. I'd like to see him injury free for a change.

[Grimreepah]

I wouldn't want Mitch rucking while he is still going through growing pains.

Tippett and Clark are both similar ages so I'm not sure if that follows. And if we are being literal, Tippett seems to be growing at a faster rate than Clark.

I also had Clark as the 3rd ruck, so that's interesting if Tippett is the preferred option.

[xplo]

Mitch won't be played there at all.

I thought so too, but have been told that Mr Tippett is the 3rd, and from reports, he is coming along beautifully.


Was that reported somewhere or just a whisper, Dan?

[danielcanberra]

Was that reported somewhere or just a whisper, Dan?

From reports of how Tippett has played in the pre-season, I presumed he would be our 3rd, so I asked when the team was in Canberra.

You might want to confirm it by going to training in Brisbane and asking yourself.

[thebirdman 24]

Coming from an Adelaide supporter, i think that both Tippet's are exciting prospects. From Kurt's game the other night, there is some genuine excitement for him, haven't seen much of Joel but if his brothers anything to go by, you've got a beauty.

Be great if someday they rucked against each other :thumbsu:

[xplo]

From reports of how Tippett has played in the pre-season, I presumed he would be our 3rd, so I asked when the team was in Canberra.

You might want to confirm it by going to training in Brisbane and asking yourself.

Not much chance of that from downtown Collingwood, but interesting to hear. With Mitch being unavailable it's hard to get a read on whether they saw him spending some time developing in the ruck.

I really like the look of Joel, but wouldn't have minded seeing Mitch ruck. Seem to remember him debuting there at Geelong a few years ago and doing ok.

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4711-0-0-0&sID=56333&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5465432&sectionID=56333)

Joel Tippett showed plenty against his old club, providing a reasonable target in the forward line with Matthew Leuenberger doing the majority of the rockwork

[xplo]

Was Leuenberger working in a quarry?

[Melbourne Lion]

Was Leuenberger working in a quarry?

Not sure, but I may have seen him in the forward pocket with leather studded pants, long highlighted hair and from what I could see looked to be busting out a rendition of 'Living on a Prayer'.

[xplo]

Not sure, but I may have seen him in the forward pocket with leather studded pants, long highlighted hair and from what I could see looked to be busting out a rendition of 'Living on a Prayer'.

Lol, I can definitely see him with that look. :thumbsu:

[Campbell's Chunky]

How is the big J-Tipp going.

Will he be promoted at the end of the year?

I'd be happy to trade for him. :)

[xplo]

Could be elevated before season's end. Beau hasn't been replaced on the list so we have a spot available. But yeah, nothing's ever a certainty, but with MacDonald and Wood both gone from last year, you'd have to like his chances.

[dlanod]

Could be elevated before season's end. Beau hasn't been replaced on the list so we have a spot available. But yeah, nothing's ever a certainty, but with MacDonald and Wood both gone from last year, you'd have to like his chances.

I can't recall whether this applied to Beau's retirement, but unless he was on the long term injury list we can't promote someone for him.

[notting18]

I can't recall whether this applied to Beau's retirement, but unless he was on the long term injury list we can't promote someone for him.

I am 99% sure that Beau was retired as a result of injury and thus could be replaced by a rookie...

[Grimreepah]

I am 99% sure that Beau was retired as a result of injury and thus could be replaced by a rookie...

Same here.

Although with Clark showing he is capable in the ruck my guess is that Tippett won't get elevated this year.

[Campbell's Chunky]

Same here.

Although with Clark showing he is capable in the ruck my guess is that Tippett won't get elevated this year.
It is Joel's 2nd year on the Rookie list, right???

Which means he has to be either elevated or delisted at the years end.

Can't keep players on the Rookie list for more than 2 years.

[notting18]

Can't keep players on the Rookie list for more than 2 years.

You're allowed a 3rd year under some circumstances if they are under the age requirements IIRC

[Grimreepah]

It is Joel's 2nd year on the Rookie list, right???

Which means he has to be either elevated or delisted at the years end.

Can't keep players on the Rookie list for more than 2 years.

Yep. Would have to be delisted and then reselected in the rookie draft if we wanted to keep him on the rookie list.

Note that my comment referred to during the season. End of year list management is a different matter.

[Old Den]

Yep. Would have to be delisted and then reselected in the rookie draft if we wanted to keep him on the rookie list.

Note that my comment referred to during the season. End of year list management is a different matter.

Yep - if he is wanted, he'll have to be promoted at year's end if he can't be a rookie for a third year - be very unlikely to get him back if he is delisted - Kurt is going too well

[charles202]

I think its a bit of a moot point, surely he will be listed by the end of the season, he will be much further advanced than any ruck we would draft in the rokkie draft.

[xplo]

I think its a bit of a moot point, surely he will be listed by the end of the season, he will be much further advanced than any ruck we would draft in the rookie draft.

Yeah, unless we somehow managed to nab a highly regarded ruckman that slips much lower than expected -- basically exactly what happened with Wood and Leunenberger. We weren't shopping for ruckmen, but sometimes you can't ignore a bargain.

Short of that happening, JT would have to be the best prospect available.

[Chasing the Dream]

Now it is true that I am a huge Tippett fan, so I eagerly await his promotion from the rookie list.

From what I have heard at GC17 meetings, and some other gerenal areas, Joel will have to be promoted as if not, the GC17 team will have him tio themselves at the end of the year through their blanket authority over Queenslanders.

Also found it interesting that Gretel Tippett, Joels 14 year old sister is making waves in the sport of basketball as well. Not sure exactly of her height, but apparently she is a very tall girl as well with a huge future in basketball.http://www.qasport.qld.gov.au/athlete_profiles/gretel_tippett.cfm

[Grimreepah]

What is the reasoning behind the confidence that Tippett will get promoted to the senior list next year? Besides his athletic testing he doesn't seem to have shown all that much to indicate he will make it. He looked fairly raw and outsized during the NAB Cup.

There are other athletic freaks like Smouha running around, and I wouldn't have thought Tippett is guaranteed of anything.

[dlanod]

Also found it interesting that Gretel Tippett, Joels 14 year old sister is making waves in the sport of basketball as well. Not sure exactly of her height, but apparently she is a very tall girl as well with a huge future in basketball.http://www.qasport.qld.gov.au/athlete_profiles/gretel_tippett.cfm


Grab her on to the rookie list too!

[dlanod]

What is the reasoning behind the confidence that Tippett will get promoted to the senior list next year? Besides his athletic testing he doesn't seem to have shown all that much to indicate he will make it. He looked fairly raw and outsized during the NAB Cup.

There are other athletic freaks like Smouha running around, and I wouldn't have thought Tippett is guaranteed of anything.

That's a fairly good point. There were quite a few passable rucks not drafted last year that are eligible for drafting/rookie listing this year. I guess it'll come down to whether two years in the system beats a wild card, but I suspect it might.

[xplo]

What is the reasoning behind the confidence that Tippett will get promoted to the senior list next year? Besides his athletic testing he doesn't seem to have shown all that much to indicate he will make it. He looked fairly raw and outsized during the NAB Cup.

There are other athletic freaks like Smouha running around, and I wouldn't have thought Tippett is guaranteed of anything.


I'm mainly judging from what comes out of weekly press reports, but he appears to be making good progress this year. Given he was very much a project player from the start -- much like his brother -- I wouldn't have thought they'd be wanting to hit the eject button yet.

Looked potentially a little more like a MacPharlin type than a ruckman the only time I've seem him play.

[Chasing the Dream]

What is the reasoning behind the confidence that Tippett will get promoted to the senior list next year? Besides his athletic testing he doesn't seem to have shown all that much to indicate he will make it. He looked fairly raw and outsized during the NAB Cup.

There are other athletic freaks like Smouha running around, and I wouldn't have thought Tippett is guaranteed of anything.

I know he has produced little thus far, but better judges than me on the Coast have indicated to me that they felt that Joel would be a better player than Kurt.

The whole reason I want his promoted is that if we do not, he will be lost to the GC franchise, without a doubt. He is worth a shot, for no other reason than we can ill afford to lose a player of his height from our list, but trust me I really believe that he will prove to be a capable player at the elite level:thumbsu:

[chopperduck]

i agree ctd. i only saw him during one of the nab games, but being near the fence as he walked around with crackers was funny. he is much taller than you think and has very big shoulders. looks very very athletic too.

being a qld and late to the sport, you must give him another 2-3 years to develop. but i agree that someone his size, shape and athletic ability is well worth the risk. certainly isn't a clumsy ruckman thats for sure.

we will lose a lot of local talent in the next few years, we can't lose the ones we already have on our list

[Grimreepah]

AFLQ (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=63278)

While Morningside ruckman Jacob Gough tried valiantly, Suncoast youngster Joel Tippett won the majority of the hit-outs and gave his side first use of the ball. It was a huge effort by Tippett, who rucked virtually solo all day.

[Lehmo87]

Now Leuey has gone down for the year, what are the chances Tippett will get elevated to the senior list and get a game?

[Old Den]

It is an opportunity to give him some games to see how he will go in the seniors - why not take it?

[notting18]

I think Scotty C, as he has already been elevated, will get the go ahead of Joel. He also has Mitch Clark-like versatility, but I think Joel will get a game by round 22.

[Chasing the Dream]

I have asked this elsewhere, but can he actually be elevated? What I mean is can Leuy go on the LTI list seeing as though there is only 7 weeks left in the season, or do the finals count?

I just remember somewhere reading last year that there was a time limit as to when someone could go on the LTI list.

Oh well:o I just want him to get a game. I drive the bandwagon:D

[BigCat2]

Would be good to see the Tipster in action for the senior side this year. :thumbsu: I'm thinking promote him at the end of the year, but it'll be even better after we see how he goes in the firsts.

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://lions.com.au/tabid/5085/Default.aspx?newsid=63762)

... the side also received plenty of drive from rookie listed ruckman Joel Tippett, who has grown considerably in stature over the past month.

Tippett ensured his onballers received silver service from the start...

[Grimreepah]

Link (http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-4711-0-0-0&sID=56333&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=6187686&sectionID=56333)

Suncoast took a hit in the big man department with Joel Tippett leaving the ground clutching his shoulder during the second term. While he appeared to move the shoulder freely in a kick-to-kick with the trainer at halftime, he did not return to the fray.

[acuguy]

If fit and Clark is unavailable next week then he must be elevated

[Lehmo87]

If fit and Clark is unavailable next week then he must be elevated

He can only be elevated if Clark, or anyone else in the Brisbane team, is put on the long term injury list. What I'm not sure about is if someone can be put on the long term injury list this late in the season.

[xplo]

I think last opportunity to elevate was last week.

[John]

I think after watching Joel a couple of times this year I would suggest that he is a bit too light on. I suspect that he needs a bit more gym time. When we consider that Luey and Mitch have maybe suffered at the hands of bigger bodies I think that elevating Joel would have been a waste of time. He was not going to get us over the line for finals footy. In the end Wood demanding to leave and Beau having to retire due to injury has been a massive blow. I for one am glad that we drafted Luey as we would be very short in the ruck department in a couple of seasons time. It can be argued that he may have helped Charmo who is struggling but I am not too sure that Joel is ready to be of much help.
I think we need to let Joel Tippet mature naturally over the next seasons.

[acuguy]

I think after watching Joel a couple of times this year I would suggest that he is a bit too light on. I suspect that he needs a bit more gym time. When we consider that Luey and Mitch have maybe suffered at the hands of bigger bodies I think that elevating Joel would have been a waste of time. He was not going to get us over the line for finals footy. In the end Wood demanding to leave and Beau having to retire due to injury has been a massive blow. I for one am glad that we drafted Luey as we would be very short in the ruck department in a couple of seasons time. It can be argued that he may have helped Charmo who is struggling but I am not too sure that Joel is ready to be of much help.
I think we need to let Joel Tippet mature naturally over the next seasons.

You are spot on John, he is very light and my call for him to be elevated was a premature one. Do you think he will be rookied again or elevated at seasons end ?

[John]

You are spot on John, he is very light and my call for him to be elevated was a premature one. Do you think he will be rookied again or elevated at seasons end ?

I think that the club will retain him as a rookie at the minimum. He has looked good to me and I think you have said that from your viewing of the AFLQ tube games.
Depending on the trade period, I expect there to be little as is normal nowadays, I would think that his elevation as the 3rd rick behind Charmo and Luey is not such a bad idea. If the chance comes to trade for a quality ruck then that may not be the case.

[acuguy]

From what i have seen of Tippett spectators should expect a ruckman that will always aim to break even at best at the ruck contest. I have said this before but at times when i have watched him on aflqtube i have had to check myself when he has the ball, he looks very good with the footy and i guess we would like him to turn into a high possession ruck. John, do you think he could be a first ruck at AFL level or is he more likely to be a key position forward or back.

[John]

From what i have seen of Tippett spectators should expect a ruckman that will always aim to break even at best at the ruck contest. I have said this before but at times when i have watched him on aflqtube i have had to check myself when he has the ball, he looks very good with the footy and i guess we would like him to turn into a high possession ruck. John, do you think he could be a first ruck at AFL level or is he more likely to be a key position forward or back.

Jeez tough question. I caught Clousten doing the ruck work earlier this season when Tippett was not playing. I thought that Clousten was very athletic and noticeably got around the ground quicker though was a lesser player than Tippett in the ruck contest. Tippett was less versatile around the ground from my limited viewing. So with that out loud thinking I would suggest if we develop these two I would expect Tippett to be more a genuine ruck playing say a touch more loose and Clousten being say a Key Forward. I also expect that Luey will be a star ruck in about 2/3 season time. If Tippett stays, based on his career so far I would suggest a 2nd ruckman. If the ressies are playing prior to the game on Saturday I might be able to get there and have a look at Tippett a bit more. He has a bit to play for over the coming few AFLQ games.

[Chasing the Dream]

I think we would need to redraft Joel as a rookie for next season as he has already been on the list for 2 years. Not 100% sure:o Would he try his luck in the draft if we cut him?? His last name would probably mean that there would be some club willing to take a chance.

I would have him on the list next year, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly we really need a back up for Leuy and Charmo that isn't Clark or Hendo. There is absolutely no reason to rob Peter to pay Paul. Clark is not benefiting as much playing 10 minutes a quarter in the ruck as he would playing those same minutes or more as a forward.

Secondly, if we have him as a back up ruck, then we can just bite the bullet and draft midfielders. If we do not, I still fear we are a ruckman short.

Thirdly, he is my man, the only player badge I have ever bought is of the great Joel Tippet:D

[John]

I think we would need to redraft Joel as a rookie for next season as he has already been on the list for 2 years. Not 100% sure:o Would he try his luck in the draft if we cut him?? His last name would probably mean that there would be some club willing to take a chance.

I would have him on the list next year, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly we really need a back up for Leuy and Charmo that isn't Clark or Hendo. There is absolutely no reason to rob Peter to pay Paul. Clark is not benefiting as much playing 10 minutes a quarter in the ruck as he would playing those same minutes or more as a forward.

Secondly, if we have him as a back up ruck, then we can just bite the bullet and draft midfielders. If we do not, I still fear we are a ruckman short.

Thirdly, he is my man, the only player badge I have ever bought is of the great Joel Tippet:D

On the highlighted point if that is true then I would elevate him.

[Grimreepah]

Playing well for Suncoast without dominating may not be good enough, simply because of the difference in standard to the seniors.

The fact that he has not been elevated despite our ruck shortages is not a good sign. Henderson has been the preferred option, and he is a makeshift ruckman at best. It suggests at the very least that Tippett is still not ready for senior action.

I don't think ruck depth will be much of a factor though. It will simply be a case of whether he is rated as a good prospect, and if not then he won't be elevated.

[chopperduck]

I don't think ruck depth will be much of a factor though. It will simply be a case of whether he is rated as a good prospect, and if not then he won't be elevated.

i agree with this. i think we have enough depth with charmo and luey, then to maybe use clark or hendo or even brennan if the worst happens. tippett is one of those long term prospects, and it will come down to weather he has shown enough to the club that he is worth keeping to develope further to have in another year or 2 time.

is no reason why luey wont be a start and will hold down our ruck for the next 10 years, so we only need a serviceable 2nd ruck option after charmo is gone. plenty of time to develope tippett if he has shown enough.

[Chasing the Dream]

LINK (http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/tabid/5586/Default.aspx?newsid=65936)

It appears it is not too late to elevate someone from the rookie list.

If results do not go our way this weekend:mad: I wonder if there is any way we will elevate Joel in order to see what he has got at the top level??

[Lehmo87]

LINK (http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/tabid/5586/Default.aspx?newsid=65936)

It appears it is not too late to elevate someone from the rookie list.

If results do not go our way this weekend:mad: I wonder if there is any way we will elevate Joel in order to see what he has got at the top level??


It depends on this....


Collingwood placed Rusling, who had a shoulder reconstruction earlier this year, on the long-term injury list this month prior to the AFL's long-term injury list placement deadline.


Sorry, my memory escapes me atm, but did we put anyone on the long-term injury list prior to the deadline, which would have passed only recently?

[Chasing the Dream]

Sorry, my memory escapes me atm, but did we put anyone on the long-term injury list prior to the deadline, which would have passed only recently?


:( Probably not.

I am guessing that maybe Beau must have been but that is what they will use for Hanley if that happens.

[TheBrownDog]

:( Probably not.

I am guessing that maybe Beau must have been but that is what they will use for Hanley if that happens.

Clouston was elevated in Beau's spot I think?

We would have another spot available for an elevation because of Leuey.

[Tassie4ever]

Had a reasonable look at him last week in the Suncoast- has talent but right now lacks body size and definition. Then again, Carlton's rucks aren't that great either.

[Lehmo87]

Clouston was elevated in Beau's spot I think?

We would have another spot available for an elevation because of Leuey.

Thanks for that TBD:thumbsu:

I knew I was forgetting someone:o

[Old Den]

i agree with this. i think we have enough depth with charmo and luey, then to maybe use clark orhendo or even brennan if the worst happens. tippett is one of those long term prospects, and it will come down to weather he has shown enough to the club that he is worth keeping to develope further to have in another year or 2 time.

is no reason why luey wont be a start and will hold down our ruck for the next 10 years, so we only need a serviceable 2nd ruck option after charmo is gone. plenty of time to develope tippett if he has shown enough.

Hasn't been enough during our recent season ruining run of away losses - with Leuenberger out for the rest of the season and,until round 20,Charman playing so far below his best there have been lots of calls on this forum to ship him out (not by me)

Clark and Merrett are KPP's and only pinch hitting ruckmen IMO,especially Merrett who is required at full back anyhow and Clark is injured now as well

I know this discussion will go on endlessly but I will disagree with the proposition of not having at least 3 but preferably 4 SPECIALIST ruckmen on the list - the downside of that is when young players like Wood want more top grade action and I remember reading that Wood said he would have stayed if Big Beau had retired at the end of the 2007 season

I have been in favour all year of Tippett being promoted to the senior list at season's end but will be happy to go along with what the club decides as his potential has been assessed and there is no doubt an early draft pick won't be used on a ruckman

[Grimreepah]

Just to shed some light/confusion on the 'how tall is Tippett?' controversy:

Found this on the Griffith Sports College (http://www.griffith.edu.au/sport/profiles/content_tippett.html) website:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5683/tippettpv6.jpg