14. Brad Fisher - AndSmithMustScore

[Jeremias]

This thread is to discuss Brad Fisher.

It will be used throughout the season for everyone, and will be the home for his buddy poster.

[cameron_rulzz]

This looks like my favourite thread for a while :thumbsu:

[AndSmithMustScore]

Hi i'm Brad's buddy poster AndSmithMustScore.

Welcome to Brad's page. :)

After a few injury ravaged seasons Brad has finally got a full preseason under his belt and is looking the best he ever has since his arrival at the club.

As yet in the two NAB games he hasn't had a huge impact and i put this down to the new forward set up and taking time to adjust to it.

If the NAB forward line set up is how the coach intends to go into the season it would appear Brad's role will be more up the ground around the half forward flank/wing as a link player.

With Whitnall,Kennedy and Cloke/Ackland all being in the forward line at some stage Brad's role probably won't be to kick large bags of goals but to set them up.

Which is probably not a bad thing as his kicking can let him down.

Beware other clubs though, because he could tear them apart if they don't get their match up on him right as he's deceptively tall, quick and his main asset is his great hands.


Stay tuned for more updates on Brad's season as it unfolds.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Had a good game against the Kangaroos i thought.

Led up the ground well and created space so that he could provide that link between the half back/half forward line.

I'd hope that he could average a goal a game in this role, so a realistic tally would be for him to kick between 20-30 goals for this season.

Progresing along nicely and as each game goes by he seems to be getting more confident with his role in the forward line structure.

Go Fish!!

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Agree ASMS. At the game I noticed just how many contests Fish gets to. He is often out of position by the time he gets to them but he always causes spillages and takes the knocks. He also busted a gut to chase some defenders who had 20 metres on him when they got the ball. You can't fault his application.

[Jeremias]

Thought Fish was excellent last night, and he has been very good so far this season.

ALWAYS presents and never stops trying. Mainly plays on the half forward line, but seems to be pushing into the middle some as well, which I love to see.

Adds another dimension to our forward line as he is a very hard player to match up on, with a great blend of height, skill and pace. Still a brilliant mark. Moving in to the middle is also promising as he will be hard to match, he is deceptively tall.

One thing I have noticed is the improvement in his kicking. Sure, at times it is still horrible, but on average I reckon it has improved. I reckon that it's because he has been able to stay injury free, and the knee isn't worrying him any more.

Great to see him doing so well so far. Hopefully he stays away from the injuries and continues his good form. I'll probably cry if he gets injured again :(

[AndSmithMustScore]

Thought Fish was excellent last night, and he has been very good so far this season.

ALWAYS presents and never stops trying. Mainly plays on the half forward line, but seems to be pushing into the middle some as well, which I love to see.

Adds another dimension to our forward line as he is a very hard player to match up on, with a great blend of height, skill and pace. Still a brilliant mark. Moving in to the middle is also promising as he will be hard to match, he is deceptively tall.

One thing I have noticed is the improvement in his kicking. Sure, at times it is still horrible, but on average I reckon it has improved. I reckon that it's because he has been able to stay injury free, and the knee isn't worrying him any more.

Great to see him doing so well so far. Hopefully he stays away from the injuries and continues his good form. I'll probably cry if he gets injured again :(

Shhhhhhhhh

[AndSmithMustScore]

Well we are NAB cup champions again and Brad played a major role in contributing to that success.

He showed in the grand final why he is going to be a thorn in alot of teams sides with some excellent one grab contested marks and some decent play up and around the ground.

It seems once sides start getitng worried about Fev's influence they will try and double/triple team him.

This is when we will see why Brad is so valuable to the teams forward structure as his ability to float across a pack or take that comtested mark will be an asset if teams choose to swamp Fev.

Well done lad on a top grand final game and solid contribution and hopefully it's a sign of better things to come.

FEED THE FISH!

[AndyWalkersGirl]

He was very very good last night. Amazing what this boy can do with a bit of confidence in himself. He'll be our quiet shining light up forward this year.

[Free Willy]

25-35 goals from 22 games should be the range that Fish aims for this year.

That alone sets up a good spread for us up forward with Eddies continued progression as well.

[Bluebear]

ON SHAKY GROUND: BRAD FISHER
He’s not so much on shaky ground, but it certainly is Brad Fisher’s time to deliver. Now into his fifth year at the club, Fisher has been unable to string together an interrupted season so far.

After being drafted at number six in the 2002 draft and making his debut in 2003, the 22-year-old has been hampered by injuries and has only been able to front in 51 of a possible 88 matches since.

On the back of a his strongest pre-season at AFL level, Carlton will look upon Fisher to play a crucial role in their forward line structure this year.


6th round I think Scotty..........number 72 overall.
I'm sure Bard would be happy with this though :thumbsu:

[The Grover]

He's going really well, looks like he's trimmed down & improved his endurance running.

Would like to see him play a Riewoldt role just running & presenting all day.The extra fitness will also help with 2nd & 3rd efforts.

[AndSmithMustScore]

6th round I think Scotty..........number 72 overall.
I'm sure Bard would be happy with this though :thumbsu:

Just shows the trash that is the media.

It's actually pretty funny really, shows they don't proof read or have a clue.

[AndSmithMustScore]

He's going really well, looks like he's trimmed down & improved his endurance running.

Would like to see him play a Riewoldt role just running & presenting all day.The extra fitness will also help with 2nd & 3rd efforts.

:eek: when was Brad ever big? :p

[The Grover]

:eek: when was Brad ever big? :p

He wasn't ever big, but he just looks to be even leaner & running better ( his knee is probably 100% ).

[AndSmithMustScore]

Another great game by Brad.

Stats wise:

13 kicks
4 handballs
8 contested pos.
9 marks(3 contested)
4 inside 50's
1 clanger
frees; 1 for, 1 against
2 goals 2 behinds
1 goal ass.
Time on ground; 81% of total game

For his role in the forward line they are very healthy returns and the kind of numbers we'd hope he would provide.

For a forward to have 8 contested posessions is a great sign he's working his arse off to make a contest and get in and get the ball.

Something alot of forwards tend to leave up to the onb and def.

[blues4flag]

Another great game by Brad.

Stats wise:



For his role in the forward line they are very healthy returns and the kind of numbers we'd hope he would provide.

For a forward to have 8 contested posessions is a great sign he's working his arse off to make a contest and get in and get the ball.

Something alot of forwards tend to leave up to the onb and def.
Just wondering, where do you get indepth stats such as clangers and TOG from?

[AndSmithMustScore]

Just wondering, where do you get indepth stats such as clangers and TOG from?

It's all in the Hun now mate. :thumbsu:

[blues4flag]

It's all in the Hun now mate. :thumbsu:

Rightio, thanks for that. It seems that they only put limited stats on the Herald Sun website, it's times like this that I regret canceling my subscription.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Despite a disappointing loss to Geelong Brad played an even game and was one of our more dangerous forwards on a night when alot went missing.

Kept up his avg of 2 goals a game for season 2007.

So far this season his tally stands at 4 goals 4 points.

Statictically

9 kicks
1 handball
3 contested pos.
5 marks(0 contested)
2 inside 50's
0 clangers
frees; 2 for, 0 against
2 goals 2 behinds
1 goal ass.
Time on ground; 74% of total game

[cameron_rulzz]

Just wondering does anyone know why Brad spent most of the 1st and 3rd quarters on the bench when he was proberly our best foward on Sat night.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Just wondering does anyone know why Brad spent most of the 1st and 3rd quarters on the bench when he was proberly our best foward on Sat night.

Well according to the stats he was on the ground for around 75% of the time which would indicate he spent around 20 minutes of the game on the bench.

Why i don't know, perhaps part of a rotation policy or due to the coach wanting a different set up in the forward line.

[AndSmithMustScore]

What a game!!!!!!!!!

And the Fish was in amongst it, really stood up today and i'm just pumped, so yeah!!!

Stats to come later :D

[blues4flag]

Has kicked 6 goals in three games, very good start to the year by Fish :thumbsu:

[Bluebear]

Has kicked 6 goals in three games, very good start to the year by Fish :thumbsu:

Spot on. If he can give us 40+ goals this year, we are well and truly on the way.
Also helps Fev out because they have to pay Fish some respect in the air to........wish he had of kicked that snap though.

[Jeremias]

Finally showing the effects of an uninterrupted preseason-showing what a damaging player he can be when he is fit and firing.

If he kicks 30-40 goals for us this season I will be a very happy man.

:thumbsu:

[AndSmithMustScore]

Brad was pivitol in our massive come back over the Bummers.

Another well rounded game that saw him contribute over the whole match.

One aspect of Brad's game that i'd like to point out is the lack of clangers he makes.

In the 3 games thus far he's only made 1 clanger which probably goes unoticed but as a stat it tells us his disposal has been excellent and he's not wasting the ball when he gets it.


12 kicks
5 handballs
4 contested pos.
9 marks(0 contested)
4 inside 50's
0 clangers
frees; 2 for, 1 against
2 goals 1 behind
3 assists.
Time on ground; 89% of total game

[ClayBlue87]

I say it week in week out, he will be causing nightmares for opposition backlines. Evry one is watching Fev and all the sudden pick 70 something has already kicked 2 goals. He is free-ing up fev quite a bit and is set to kick 35-45 goals this season. Brilliant return

[AndyWalkersGirl]

Brad was pivitol in our massive come back over the Bummers.

Another well rounded game that saw him contribute over the whole match.

One aspect of Brad's game that i'd like to point out is the lack of clangers he makes.

In the 3 games thus far he's only made 1 clanger which probably goes unoticed but as a stat it tells us his disposal has been excellent and he's not wasting the ball when he gets it.


Murphy and Stevens had the most clangers in our team yesterday :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes: Unnoticeable when they do it, when Fish or Carrazzo, or walker has an odd kick, they get hammered. Just proves that it happens to every single player

[Bluebear]

Murphy and Stevens had the most clangers in our team yesterday :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes: Unnoticeable when they do it, when Fish or Carrazzo, or walker has an odd kick, they get hammered. Just proves that it happens to every single player
Actually I did notice with Murph.......thought some of his kicks were unusually off.

[one_twelve112]

Fishers form in 07 has been one of the great positives of the year for me thus far. There was never any doubt about his footballing ability, but injuries have plagued his career and prevented us from seeing his best. I think Fish will stamp himself and an extremely dangerous 2nd or 3rd tall forward in 07.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Bloody injured again :mad:

[Bluebear]

Life's certainties.......death, taxes, Liberals lying to steal elections, and Brad Fisher getting injured...........skip the Nurofen........lets head for something a bit stronger......(Hick)........:D

[AndyWalkersGirl]

I was watching the Essendon game last night (again) and i realised just how important he is for our team set up - his pressure up forward is great, and he is the best mark at our club, and one of the best going around.

He is going to be sorely missed and he is a hard player to cover (in terms of loss) in my opinion.

Great start to the season, can only hope that he will come out firing in 4,5 weeks time :thumbsu:

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Some pretty damning statistics that suggest that Fish is the yardstick of this team ...
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323547

[bexta444]

Great against Port on Saturday night! Hope he can keep the body right and play out the whole season, fingers crossed!

[AndSmithMustScore]

Fish you champion!

It's all down to the beard.

Don't shave it off Fish you'll lose all your powers.

FEED THE FISH!

[blues4flag]

He has had a fantastic season - averaging over 2 goals from his 9 games this season. :thumbsu:

[Bluebear]

He has had a fantastic season - averaging over 2 goals from his 9 games this season. :thumbsu:

Accortding to Il Naso this stat menas nothing.........:rolleyes:

but I concur......Fish is stringing some games together now and we look very dangerous everytime we go forward.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Accortding to Il Naso this stat menas nothing.........:rolleyes:
but I concur......Fish is stringing some games together now and we look very dangerous everytime we go forward.

Who is think Il ****o guy i'll smash him one. :thumbsd:

[walkers a legend]

not been held goalless this year from memory good work

[walkers a legend]

in fevs absence hopefully him and waite kick bags well done fish havent been held goalless all season only blue to do that this year

[cwebb(go_fish#14)]

This is definatly Brad's big week to step up because the midfielders will be forced to look for another option to goal instead of goin to fev everytime.

[walkers a legend]

4 goals on the weekend :thumbsu:

go the fish

[AndSmithMustScore]

If Fish doesn't finish in the top 3 in the B&F count then it's a crock of shit.

Carrazzo will win it, i'm guessing Waitey will be up there, but for consistency Brad has been easily in out top 3 all year.

It would be just reward for him and give him extra incentive and confidence going into next season.

[blues4flag]

Fantastic season from the Fishman. :thumbsu: He'd have to be close to top 3 B&F, the two missed games might hurt a bit but not enough to make much of a difference, I would have thought.

[walkers a legend]

If Fish doesn't finish in the top 3 in the B&F count then it's a crock of shit.

Carrazzo will win it, i'm guessing Waitey will be up there, but for consistency Brad has been easily in out top 3 all year.

It would be just reward for him and give him extra incentive and confidence going into next season.simmo will be further up than waite and i think the fish will come second

[[ToTTi]]

39 goals at 75% conversion rate, given that he missed a few games as well, for me caps off an excellent season by Fish. :thumbsu:

[blues4flag]

Would've loved for him to kick one more and get past the 40 goal mark, but as Totti said, his season has been excellent and that is a remarkable tally given he's missed a few games and really is the 2nd or at times 3rd forward in one of the worst sides in the comp. Been a shining light this year and surpassed my expectations. :thumbsu:

[Go_Blues]

He's like a richo that can kick strait. He runs up the ground to take un-contested marks, but can take contested marks at full forward. Probably the best mark on the team, what a find at pick 72!!!

[bexta444]

dislocated his finger tonight v Port

[AndSmithMustScore]

We need to find a tall big bodied lad to take up the CHF position.

If Brad is asked to play CHF i can see his output from last season dropping as he's faced with a better opponent and more attention.

Needs to be the third tall option in our forward line.

[cwebb(go_fish#14)]

Hopefully will be back for rnd2 fish fingers healing quicker then first thought

[AndSmithMustScore]

That's good to hear, thanks for that.

As long as he doesn't try to rush back and do more damage to it.

[AndSmithMustScore]

Good call by cwebb.

Fisher it seems will be back for this round against the Aints.

Not a monent to soon either as we definately missed him last week as a forward option when looking for targets inside the 50.

Had he played last week the result might have been a bit different.

[Jeremias]

We missed him last week big-time and can't wait to see him back.

[Bluebear]

Good call by cwebb.

Fisher it seems will be back for this round against the Aints.

Not a monent to soon either as we definately missed him last week as a forward option when looking for targets inside the 50.

Had he played last week the result might have been a bit different.
Not to mention across HF, where Harts really let us down in the fourth last week........concussion is no excuse.:D

[cwebb(go_fish#14)]

I thought he did pretty well on sat night considering he had only played one 1/2 for the whole year so far. I heard that the thumb pulled up real sore at the last training before the match so i image he played with a jab against the saints. He presented pretty well all night and good to see him pull down one of those pack marks his famous for towards the end. :thumbsu:

[AndSmithMustScore]

He did very well considering.

I'd love to see Jake Edwards turn into another Fisher like forward and I can't see why he couldn't.

If Brad's shown anything it's that a bit of time and patience and the talent will shine through eventually.

Really looking forward to seeing how he goes with a game under his belt now against the Bumbers.

[BlueMania]

Hi all .

I'm Fishers buddy for the year . Apologies for taking so long to post . I wasn't at the game on the weekend and therefore not afforded the luxury of seeing what he was doing when not on the tv screen .
Coming back early from his injury , I wouldn't have expected him to have too much of an impact , especially in the pack marks . I didn't really see him enter any pack situations either . Overall he had a good night while being paid close attention by his opponent and it was pleasing to see him still manage to create some space for himself . He kicked his usual 2 goals and seemed to work up the ground a fair bit as well linking up well with the ball coming out of the back line and got it inside 50 on 3 occasions with 2 assists as well .
With his broken thumb , he still managed to take 11 marks even though only 1 was contested . Marking the ball at all is a big effort ! He will add a lot to our forward line again with his safe hands once the thumb is better and I think he will again be the forward flanker who plays well up the ground at times throughout each game . Like the rest of our senior guns , he still needs a bit of time to fully recover before we see his best .
Thats about it for now , good to see the man back in action again after missing the Tigers game , I was there for that misery . Next game I go to will be against the maggots in round 4 so I will only be able to report on what I see on the tv again next week against the Bummers . Looking forward to being able to see him live in action so I can see what he is actually doing when not in direct play . Feel free to include any additional info regarding Fish throughout the season .

[james Dean]

Dead set gun.. 13 marks 16 disposals and 2 goals

[BlueMania]

Again , I was unable to make it to the game so I settled in front of the radio and watched snippets of the delayed telecast . The man with the longest arms in the comp had a pretty good day out , played well up the ground and offered himself as a target to assist the ball coming out of the back line or the switching of play . His customary 2 goals were both , IMO ,vital at the time although it could be fairly suggested all our goals were vital .
Not so sure his thumb is fully healed as yet though . While he took 3 contested marks and hit a few other packs , I reckon he will start taking more contested marks per game over the next few weeks . He took 10 uncontested marks as well , indicating his ability to find space up the ground where he proved to be very servicable .
With improved midfield delivery to the forward 50 this season , I look forward to seeing his reliable hands winning more of the ball in the air and hopefully kicking 3 or 4 rather than the 2 he seems to kick consistently .
Below are his stats which I read in the hun yesterday .

Disposals; 1stQ; 4 - 2ndQ; 3 - 3rdQ;6 - 4thQ; 3 . Total 16
4 contested , 12 uncontested . 14 kicks , 2 handballs
81% efficiency .
Marks; 3 contested , 10 uncontested
Inside 50; 1
Clangers; 2
Frees for/against; 0/2
Score; 2 goals , 0 behinds , 1 assist
Tog; 78%

He could improve his kicking at times , 2 clangers he could do without as much as the rest of the group . I notice he can kick a low projectory pass and have it cut off as he did on sunday around the the wing trying to go forward . Luckily the ball was knocked out of bounds and subsequently thrown in . The previous week against Essendon (sorry I failed to write up a report) he did the same from around the 50 arc , dead in front , and the same thing happened and the ball was rebounded .
A very good player for us without being a star . Top game overall though .

[BlueMania]

Sorry folks , haven't seen the last 2 games . Was playing at the same time as the Melbourne game and although I was to be at the Adelaide game , I fell very ill on saturday and am only now recovering .
looks like the Brisbane game will be the next one I go to on saturday may 17 (7:10pm start - go watch it live ppl). Hopefully the Eagles game will be beamed in live later this week for us to hopefully enjoy .

As I don't even know how many goals Fisher has kicked this week , feel free to add any input you like . I will write up his stats against wce probably on saturday .

[i love carlton]

i think brad fisher is a great footballer.Put him 1 out in the goal square 9 out of 10 times he will mark it,so i cant understand why alot of times he plays outside the 50 where he looks lost, has not got the leg speed and cant kick 40 metres,God i hate to see if we lose Fev where we will get our goals from

[Five]

i think brad fisher is a great footballer.Put him 1 out in the goal square 9 out of 10 times he will mark it,so i cant understand why alot of times he plays outside the 50 where he looks lost, has not got the leg speed and cant kick 40 metres,God i hate to see if we lose Fev where we will get our goals from

Love Fev (our best player at present) but for the reasons you state above - if he was out at CHF then Fish and a couple of others would more than cover the reduction in his number of goals IMO

Hey Mods I am guilty of posting in this duplication - please tidy up the Buddy draft board and move all the duplications to their original

[frankie blues!!]

Brad Fisher will play better footy if he played forward pocket. Fisher can sit in the square one on one and you will back him to take the grab. Wheres Fevola is better on the lead. So if Fevola leads and marks, distance is not a problem.

[Bluebear]

Brad Fisher will play better footy if he played forward pocket. Fisher can sit in the square one on one and you will back him to take the grab. Wheres Fevola is better on the lead. So if Fevola leads and marks, distance is not a problem.

Hmm, as a lead up type inside 50 I'd agree.

Fisher has been playing a lot up the field, more as a CHF type, marking on the lead and finding space outside 50.

He has struggled the few times he has gone inside 50 for most of the game until the weekend.

For years we have seen players drifting back and zoning off onto Fev and we cry "where is his man........somone should be loose"........Fisher played Bowden beautifully, a number of times having him caught between going to Fev and staying on Fisher.........the question is can we reproduce that form again?

[pigeon26]

Fisher needs to be used closer to goals if we are to go close to the finals. can take a mark and kick goals but just need him to stay closer to goals and not up on a wing. It would also help out fev having another target close to him

[cwebb(go_fish#14)]

Brad had his best game of the year so far at the weekend, he was used to play behind fev in the goal square and also leading up occasionally. He kicked 2.3 and had 5 or 6 goal assists. He always seems to play well against the tiges and saints hopefully another big game nxt friday.