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MickyCrow
17 Mar 2007, 06:22
Greetings Bomber Fans.
The countdown is on to ROund one, should be a nice tight game between the two clubs, With Lloydy back and Michael freeing up Fletcher the DOns look pretty good this year.
My question is, not having the opportunity to follow Essendons form from over here, is are there any young fellas you reckon will debut against us, or any other selection surprises?
Have heard Alwyn Davey is going alright, not surprised, was spewin the Crows didnt pick him up, saw him at a few SANFL games last year and damn is he fast:eek: . Cheers people
Boris_Bewick
17 Mar 2007, 07:27
Overall consensus that I have gathered is that Davey is almost certain to play.
Leroy Jetta has showed some top pre-season form and to a lesser extent, Bachar Houli. So one of those two may debut against you guys. But doubtful. Jetta being the most likely.
Either way you should see at least one debutant
I thought Houli was a better chance of selection than jetta given we have Davey/Monfries/Lovett all in the Jetta mould!
eastaugh36
17 Mar 2007, 08:58
Bring on round 1! Can't wait to be there. Crows were ordinary last night. We are a big chance.
I thought Houli was a better chance of selection than jetta given we have Davey/Monfries/Lovett all in the Jetta mould!
Thats how i've been thinking. Jetta is close, but i very much doubt that we'll head into the game with three debutants. Davey and Houli to play.
Thats how i've been thinking. Jetta is close, but i very much doubt that we'll head into the game with three debutants. Davey and Houli to play.
Davey and Houli for mine also, but you never know with Sheeds and i think he likes the "unexpected" from Jetta....
mcphee_is_a_gun
17 Mar 2007, 10:44
I'd debut all 3 of them, they offer more than Peveril, Bolton + the fact its likely JJ and Campo wont be fit. Stick Monfries and Lovett into the midfied and rotate Jetta and Houli through one HFF and let Davey have the other.
MickyCrow
17 Mar 2007, 11:07
Bring on round 1! Can't wait to be there. Crows were ordinary last night. We are a big chance.
That is one word for it. I can think of another few that wouldnt get through the blocker:D . Seriously though it should be a cracker, I reckon you guys are in for a good year
Darealrath
17 Mar 2007, 11:29
That is one word for it. I can think of another few that wouldnt get through the blocker:D . Seriously though it should be a cracker, I reckon you guys are in for a good year
You guys appear to be a bit vulnerable atm but I just can't see us beating you over there.
Pawtucket Patriot
17 Mar 2007, 12:31
With the Crows low in ruck stocks then if Hill and Laycock can play well and give some good footy to the midfield then I reckon the Bombers are in with a chance.
I'd debut all 3 of them, they offer more than Peveril, Bolton + the fact its likely JJ and Campo wont be fit. Stick Monfries and Lovett into the midfied and rotate Jetta and Houli through one HFF and let Davey have the other.
I agree with that, except I wouldnt think Houli would be used across half forward at this stage. Dont think he can handle having an aggressive half back opponent on his hammer so soon. He's still a long way off taking someone on from what Ive seen of him.
He'd have trouble dealing with a Johncock or McLeod off HB also, personally I'd wait to debut him, although I'm not a coach
jules101
17 Mar 2007, 13:50
He'd have trouble dealing with a Johncock or McLeod off HB also, personally I'd wait to debut him, although I'm not a coach
I agree I dont think Houli is good enough yet to debut... Would much rather Winderlich or Slattery or someone like that in the team at this stage then Houli. You guys have been pumping him up a lot, he has done some good things but is not consistent enough for the seniors yet..
danzan22
17 Mar 2007, 15:49
You guys appear to be a bit vulnerable atm but I just can't see us beating you over there.
I will be happy if we dont lose by more than 40 points, a win is a bonus, we cant get any worse than last years game.
dave_27
17 Mar 2007, 16:53
I'd debut all 3 of them, they offer more than Peveril, Bolton + the fact its likely JJ and Campo wont be fit. Stick Monfries and Lovett into the midfied and rotate Jetta and Houli through one HFF and let Davey have the other.
Didnt you learn anything from Round 1 2004? ;)
We cant afford to be taking 3 debuts interstate especially against the most experienced side in the league, even Sheedy admitted along the lines after that particularly game in '04 with Kepler, Stanton and Lovett Murray debuting, doing nothing and the team getting belted by Port by nearly 100 points.
Hille reported and Laycock did a hamstring so the ruck situation could be interesting
danzan22
17 Mar 2007, 17:01
Hille reported and Laycock did a hamstring so the ruck situation could be interesting
Well isnt that just great, what exaclty was hille reported for?
Well isnt that just great, what exaclty was hille reported for?
Was on SEN...think it was striking
mcphee_is_a_gun
17 Mar 2007, 17:07
Laycock has a hamstring strain so miught of just been a precaution.
Play Ryder/Bradley in the ruck.
Didnt you learn anything from Round 1 2004? ;)
We cant afford to be taking 3 debuts interstate especially against the most experienced side in the league, even Sheedy admitted along the lines after that particularly game in '04 with Kepler, Stanton and Lovett Murray debuting, doing nothing and the team getting belted by Port by nearly 100 points.
we would've got pumped that game no matter who we played. look at the rewards now, stants and lov-murray are both established players.
there is no point playing heff, pev and bolts as they won't be any better than they were last year.
i wouldn't play houli yet, but i would include davey (obviously in), jetta and dempsey. even if they only touch the ball ten times each they will hurt the opposition.
mcphee_is_a_gun
17 Mar 2007, 18:09
Bradley also reported apparently...
Bradley also reported apparently...
I thought Bolton was the better ruck option anyway. He was better than Bradley last year when we ere relying on them 2 to ruck!
eastaugh36
17 Mar 2007, 18:32
Bradley also reported apparently...
Great to see the fantastic example of discipline is still there in 07 :rolleyes:
kepler got reported for "making forceful contact" to the head of birchall.
what the hell does that mean?????? isn't that just striking???
carnthedons07premiers
17 Mar 2007, 18:55
From what ive heard hille might escape with a reprimand but i hope bradely gets suspended indefinetly.
mcphee_is_a_gun
17 Mar 2007, 18:57
From what ive heard hille might escape with a reprimand but i hope bradely gets suspended indefinetly.
We dont need supporters like you, go support Richmond.
Whilst there is never a good time to have players reported, at least we are playing Adelaide in round 1. If David Hille's report is as minor as everyone says and he is unlucky enough to get a week, it won't be the end of the world. Adelaide's combination of Hudson and Griffen are hardly going to kill us. Paddy should play and this should be a good oppurtunity for him to play in the ruck against beatable opponents.
From what ive heard hille might escape with a reprimand but i hope bradely gets suspended indefinetly.
it is probably 50/50 whether he receives games or not. the incident wasn't too bad but his suspension from last year might hurt him. if he had a good record he would definitely get a reprimand. i think it was munston that got "hit" and he wasn't affected from it.
maybe essendon and hawthorn can strike a deal. munston and birchall can defend kepler and hille. while pevs and lloydy can back up hodge. sounds fair to me.
If Hille is unfortunate to miss the Adelaide game he should be pumped for the home game against Freo, which would be a little bonus.
Darealrath
18 Mar 2007, 13:48
Ok so now that all the practice matches have finished, what's everyones R1 team ?
Mine (I know you've all been waiting for it, don't deny):
B: McVeigh Michael NLM
HB: McPhee Fletcher Welsh
C: Stanton Watson Monfries
HF: Davey Lucas Hird
F: Jetta Lloyd M. Johnson
R: Hille Lovett Winderlich
INT: Ryder Dempsey Slattery Heffernan
should probably wait till we find out about Hille
dave_27
18 Mar 2007, 14:20
Like the look of that team Darealrath especially in the middle.
Only thing I think is that it is a very young midfield and Sheedy will probably elect to take a more experienced midfielder interstate with JJ out.
Ive got the feeling Pev or Dyson will play instead of Dempsey or Jetta.
dave_27
18 Mar 2007, 14:25
If Hille is unfortunate to miss the Adelaide game he should be pumped for the home game against Freo, which would be a little bonus.
Yeah or costing us the game in Adelaide in the process through the team missing him like last year against the dogs in round 3 after hitting Mitch Clarke the week before against the lions.
donsman4eva
18 Mar 2007, 17:18
Well here is my team, assuming both Hille and Bradley get suspended and Laycock and JJ are missing thru injury.
FB: Welsh, MM, Slattery
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, NLM
C: Winders, Watson, Stanton
HF: Hird, Lucas, Lovett
FF: Jetta, Lloyd, Davey
Rucks: Ryder, Monfries, McVeigh
Interchange: Heffernan, Bolton, MJ, Dyson
danzan22
18 Mar 2007, 18:17
Fletcher into the ruck with ryder and him rotating through ruck and CHB maybe?
Not a Wellman
18 Mar 2007, 18:53
Who is our next ruckmen? hille laycock bradley Ryder (although he is officially from now a CHB or HBF) then who???? who rucked in the 2's last year when ryder played ones?
Ok so now that all the practice matches have finished, what's everyones R1 team ?
Mine (I know you've all been waiting for it, don't deny):
B: McVeigh Michael NLM
HB: McPhee Fletcher Welsh
C: Stanton Watson Monfries
HF: Davey Lucas Hird
F: Jetta Lloyd M. Johnson
R: Hille Lovett Winderlich
INT: Ryder Dempsey Slattery Heffernan
i am happy with this team.
although swap lovett and stants.
cj will play. he will kick two goals a game on the third best tall defender
good work having dempsey in.
good work not having kepler in.
i think pevs would be ahead of heff. although neither will be in when jj returns
i wouldn't be surprised if dyson was picked
Let's Fly Jetstar!
18 Mar 2007, 21:53
I don't care if Bradley gets done either, at this stage, he's no where near the best 22.
Charliebrow 16
18 Mar 2007, 22:06
Did we use Bolten at some stage in the ruck last year?
Happy with the team above also.
jules101
18 Mar 2007, 22:08
Ok so now that all the practice matches have finished, what's everyones R1 team ?
Mine (I know you've all been waiting for it, don't deny):
B: McVeigh Michael NLM
HB: McPhee Fletcher Welsh
C: Stanton Watson Monfries
HF: Davey Lucas Hird
F: Jetta Lloyd M. Johnson
R: Hille Lovett Winderlich
INT: Ryder Dempsey Slattery Heffernan
Johns still injured?
Charliebrow 16
18 Mar 2007, 22:14
I didn't even know Johns was injured...
Must've missed it.
cj didn't play as they didn't want to risk him after the corky he received against the eagles.
i wouldn't be surprised if he played for bendigo this week to get some match fitness.
if he is fit he should be picked for round 1
Jasiano
19 Mar 2007, 13:05
The team Sheedy actually plays will be something very similar to this:
(Not taking into account possible suspensions).
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Dyson, Bradley
I think that Davey, Jetta, Houli will all miss out rnd1. It's not ideal to debut at AAMI. Then again, Sheeds debuted Stants there a couple of years ago now when he was only 17? Still, try and find a spot for him in that side...There's no room in midfeild. The only possible starter is Davey, that's it.
And those who believe one of the three could come in for Peverill or Heff...We simply don't have any more room for inexperienced draft picks in that midfeild. Pev and Heff have to play with JJ out.
Davey, Houli, Jetta, Gumbleton - They can all gain some experience down at Bendigo for now. Let them dominate that, then give them a chance in the big time a few rounds in depending on how we are (and they are) travelling.
Backline will be interesting, we should be able to handle the Crows alright, with Michael the huge plus obviously. We really missed that second key position player down back last season imo, hopefully he can do us proud when in the red and black. McVeigh will probably get a stint or two on the ball, depending on how the Crows line-up. Slattery can come off the bench if neccesary.
The middle is very worrying for mine. Without JJ, we could struggle to win the hard ball from stoppages and get killed in clearances. Hopefully Hille doesn't get rubbed out, that would be extremely harsh. Our pace is going to have to be our strength through their, but we need to also put emphasis on hitting targets, composure will be needed from our pacy wingmen.
Forward line just makes me grin. Lloyd, Lucas, Johns. How many sides this year have three big men that can control all three of those at once? You could maybe keep one or two quiet at best, but all three..good luck. Then, you add Hird to that, who this year will probably kick around 50, as he won't be pushed into the middle nearly as often.
Can't wait!
kelvin_sheedy
19 Mar 2007, 13:36
Davey is a lock for round 1.
The team Sheedy actually plays will be something very similar to this:
(Not taking into account possible suspensions).
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Dyson, Bradley
I think that Davey, Jetta, Houli will all miss out rnd1. It's not ideal to debut at AAMI. Then again, Sheeds debuted Stants there a couple of years ago now when he was only 17? Still, try and find a spot for him in that side...There's no room in midfeild. The only possible starter is Davey, that's it.
And those who believe one of the three could come in for Peverill or Heff...We simply don't have any more room for inexperienced draft picks in that midfeild. Pev and Heff have to play with JJ out.
Davey, Houli, Jetta, Gumbleton - They can all gain some experience down at Bendigo for now. Let them dominate that, then give them a chance in the big time a few rounds in depending on how we are (and they are) travelling.
Backline will be interesting, we should be able to handle the Crows alright, with Michael the huge plus obviously. We really missed that second key position player down back last season imo, hopefully he can do us proud when in the red and black. McVeigh will probably get a stint or two on the ball, depending on how the Crows line-up. Slattery can come off the bench if neccesary.
The middle is very worrying for mine. Without JJ, we could struggle to win the hard ball from stoppages and get killed in clearances. Hopefully Hille doesn't get rubbed out, that would be extremely harsh. Our pace is going to have to be our strength through their, but we need to also put emphasis on hitting targets, composure will be needed from our pacy wingmen.
Forward line just makes me grin. Lloyd, Lucas, Johns. How many sides this year have three big men that can control all three of those at once? You could maybe keep one or two quiet at best, but all three..good luck. Then, you add Hird to that, who this year will probably kick around 50, as he won't be pushed into the middle nearly as often.
Can't wait!
surely your not serious about davey not playing in round 1.
pev and heff should not be played in the same team
you don't have slats in your 22. he should be picked ahead of heff and pev
kepler and paddy shouldn't be played in the same team if hille is right to play
donsman4eva
19 Mar 2007, 15:19
The team Sheedy actually plays will be something very similar to this:
(Not taking into account possible suspensions).
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Dyson, Bradley
I think that Davey, Jetta, Houli will all miss out rnd1. It's not ideal to debut at AAMI. Then again, Sheeds debuted Stants there a couple of years ago now when he was only 17? Still, try and find a spot for him in that side...There's no room in midfeild. The only possible starter is Davey, that's it.
And those who believe one of the three could come in for Peverill or Heff...We simply don't have any more room for inexperienced draft picks in that midfeild. Pev and Heff have to play with JJ out.
Davey, Houli, Jetta, Gumbleton - They can all gain some experience down at Bendigo for now. Let them dominate that, then give them a chance in the big time a few rounds in depending on how we are (and they are) travelling.
Backline will be interesting, we should be able to handle the Crows alright, with Michael the huge plus obviously. We really missed that second key position player down back last season imo, hopefully he can do us proud when in the red and black. McVeigh will probably get a stint or two on the ball, depending on how the Crows line-up. Slattery can come off the bench if neccesary.
The middle is very worrying for mine. Without JJ, we could struggle to win the hard ball from stoppages and get killed in clearances. Hopefully Hille doesn't get rubbed out, that would be extremely harsh. Our pace is going to have to be our strength through their, but we need to also put emphasis on hitting targets, composure will be needed from our pacy wingmen.
Forward line just makes me grin. Lloyd, Lucas, Johns. How many sides this year have three big men that can control all three of those at once? You could maybe keep one or two quiet at best, but all three..good luck. Then, you add Hird to that, who this year will probably kick around 50, as he won't be pushed into the middle nearly as often.
Can't wait!
What's the point? they aren't gonna learn a great deal by absolutely killing oposition. They need to be challenged, especially Davey who is a bit older.
kepler and paddy shouldn't be played in the same team if hille is right to play
why not? Kepler isn't just a back up ruckman
because we have better wingman than kepler
our forward line is already tall enough
fletch, big mal, mcphee and paddy can take any tall forwards of adelaide
and on a dewey night in adelaide his poor skills will be compounded by the conditions.
because we have better wingman than kepler
our forward line is already tall enough
fletch, big mal, mcphee and paddy can take any tall forwards of adelaide
and on a dewey night in adelaide his poor skills will be compounded by the conditions.
It's at lunchtime Sunday.
He can also help out down back if needed or play wing under the right circumstances
It's at lunchtime Sunday.
oops sorry, i thought it was a saturday night
it still doesn't change my mind
It's at lunchtime Sunday.
HAHA Gold!!
Jasiano
20 Mar 2007, 11:50
surely your not serious about davey not playing in round 1.
pev and heff should not be played in the same team
you don't have slats in your 22. he should be picked ahead of heff and pev
kepler and paddy shouldn't be played in the same team if hille is right to play
Well, with JJ out, i feel Pev and Heff should both be in the side. Bradley is a versatile option on the bench, he can do a bit of everything.
Slattery could play for either Pev or Heff, maybe. In that case, you could slot McVeigh into the middle...
I think a lot of you guys are under rating how raw a lot of our young kids are. Davey is a chance as i said, but personally, i wouldn't pick him rnd1.
Well, with JJ out, i feel Pev and Heff should both be in the side. Bradley is a versatile option on the bench, he can do a bit of everything.
Slattery could play for either Pev or Heff, maybe. In that case, you could slot McVeigh into the middle...
I think a lot of you guys are under rating how raw a lot of our young kids are. Davey is a chance as i said, but personally, i wouldn't pick him rnd1.
Davey isn't a kid, thats the big difference with him.
Have you seen him play?
He is a shoe in for round 1 and is a long way in front of some guys who are 5 year players
couldn't have said it better myself merv
stop suking up hulld...................... hes not a straw!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for that hullsy (a.k.a my annoying brother)
Pevers-Legend
21 Mar 2007, 12:54
Ratings for the game:
10+ goals - schite
5-10 goals - crap but expected
<5 goals - a great return for us:(
draw - ha!!
A win - :eek: - we can only dream.
Adelaide will beat us by 8 goals I reckon. In Melbounre I reckon we would win strangely enough - but in Adelaide - we're so bad it doesn't even matter.
Footballers are dumb when you think about it.
Pevers-Legend
21 Mar 2007, 12:57
The Team I expect Sheedy to pick (not nec the one I would like):
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Davey, Bradley
One change to Jasiano's team - Davey in- Dyson out.
I think we will be too slow - Heff, Ryder, Bradley, Pev, Welsh, Hird, Johns - slow!!
One or two extra players with pace are needed - i.e. Slats, Dyson, Dempsey, Houli, Jetta etc.
PS How is Nash going?
eastaugh36
21 Mar 2007, 13:58
Ratings for the game:
10+ goals - schite
5-10 goals - crap but expected
<5 goals - a great return for us:(
draw - ha!!
A win - :eek: - we can only dream.
Adelaide will beat us by 8 goals I reckon. In Melbounre I reckon we would win strangely enough - but in Adelaide - we're so bad it doesn't even matter.
Footballers are dumb when you think about it.
If we lose by anything more than 4 or 5 goals with the team Adelaide has got then it is going to be another long season.
Pevers-Legend
21 Mar 2007, 14:37
If we lose by anything more than 4 or 5 goals with the team Adelaide has got then it is going to be another long season.
Yes - but we did lose by 90 odd points in 96.
Games in Adelaide are irrelevant as footballers are dumb and have no idea how to travel.
Unless it is a final;)
Yes - but we did lose by 90 odd points in 96.
Games in Adelaide are irrelevant as footballers are dumb and have no idea how to travel.
Unless it is a final;)
How is a game from 96 or 06 any relevant? We beat them there in 04 also, it's a whole new year, I expect us to be reletively close at 3 quarter time.
Pevers-Legend
21 Mar 2007, 18:09
How is a game from 96 or 06 any relevant? We beat them there in 04 also, it's a whole new year, I expect us to be reletively close at 3 quarter time.
They were crap in 04 - we were not.
We are crap - they are not. Pretty simple. Hence I expect us to do poorly.
Lets not get carried away - we have won how many games travelling since 2001? And we finished where in 06? I don't see how we can win - it is clearly more mental - that and Adelaide are too big for us and too confidnet and too well disciplined. I would like us to be as disciplined as them - we would make the 8 for sure.
And the 96 reference is that getting thumped in adelaide in round 1 will not nec. mean we will have a bad year.
The Team I expect Sheedy to pick (not nec the one I would like):
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Davey, Bradley
One change to Jasiano's team - Davey in- Dyson out.
I think we will be too slow - Heff, Ryder, Bradley, Pev, Welsh, Hird, Johns - slow!!
One or two extra players with pace are needed - i.e. Slats, Dyson, Dempsey, Houli, Jetta etc.
PS How is Nash going?
if heff, pev and kepler all play in the same team when we don't have many injuries i will cry
eastaugh36
21 Mar 2007, 22:10
We are crap - they are not. Pretty simple. Hence I expect us to do poorly.
Lets not get carried away - we have won how many games travelling since 2001? And we finished where in 06? I don't see how we can win - it is clearly more mental - that and Adelaide are too big for us and too confidnet and too well disciplined. I would like us to be as disciplined as them - we would make the 8 for sure.
And the 96 reference is that getting thumped in adelaide in round 1 will not nec. mean we will have a bad year.
I would back the 96 team over us any time.
They will be missing Ricciuto,Hentschel,McGregor. They have a depleted ruck setup, with their lead ruckman(Hudson) back from a year out and their backup (Griffin) is a raw kid who will play his first game and probably isnt ready for another year or two but due to injuries is in. We have had a relatively good pre-season by our standards and have few injuries. They have had a shocking pre-season and have not been impressive. We have no excuses.
eastaugh36
21 Mar 2007, 22:13
Yes - but we did lose by 90 odd points in 96.
Games in Adelaide are irrelevant as footballers are dumb and have no idea how to travel.
Unless it is a final;)
Games are very relevant in Adelaide, unfortunately I rarely see us win here but when we do it's like a finals win!
warney7
21 Mar 2007, 22:55
I'd debut all 3 of them, they offer more than Peveril, Bolton + the fact its likely JJ and Campo wont be fit. Stick Monfries and Lovett into the midfied and rotate Jetta and Houli through one HFF and let Davey have the other.
Quality post, agree with everything you've said there! :thumbsu:
It's time for Sheeds to bite the bullet and throw the kids straight into the deep end for a month, and find out if they can swim!
They were crap in 04 - we were not.
We are crap - they are not. Pretty simple. Hence I expect us to do poorly.
Lets not get carried away - we have won how many games travelling since 2001? And we finished where in 06? I don't see how we can win - it is clearly more mental - that and Adelaide are too big for us and too confidnet and too well disciplined. I would like us to be as disciplined as them - we would make the 8 for sure.
And the 96 reference is that getting thumped in adelaide in round 1 will not nec. mean we will have a bad year.
That's exactly why it isn't relevant, they were different years, we were bad they were good, we were good they were bad ect ect.
It may very well be a mental thing as to why we play badly over there but it doesn't mean Sheedy isn't addressing it, if we are to improve this year that's one thing we need to look at.
In all likely hood we may not win, but we don't know how good or bad us and Adelaide will start the year, you just never know.
macca69
22 Mar 2007, 09:52
The Team I expect Sheedy to pick (not nec the one I would like):
B: McVeigh, Michael, Lovett-Murray
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, Welsh
C: Lovett, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Monfries
F: Johns, Lloyd, M.Johnson
R: Hille, Stanton, Peverill
INT: Ryder, Heffernan, Davey, Bradley
One change to Jasiano's team - Davey in- Dyson out.
I think we will be too slow - Heff, Ryder, Bradley, Pev, Welsh, Hird, Johns - slow!!
One or two extra players with pace are needed - i.e. Slats, Dyson, Dempsey, Houli, Jetta etc.
PS How is Nash going?
Didn't Sheeds say Houli and Jetta would play also? I'd be very surprised if they missed tbh. Adelaide will have a very short forwardline given their injuries, so an extra tall in Kepler isn't required. Heffernan is the other who IMO won't play round one.
So from that side:
Out - Heff, Bradley
In - Jetta, Houli
Didn't Sheeds say Houli and Jetta would play also? I'd be very surprised if they missed tbh. Adelaide will have a very short forwardline given their injuries, so an extra tall in Kepler isn't required. Heffernan is the other who IMO won't play round one.
So from that side:
Out - Heff, Bradley
In - Jetta, Houli
never actually seen a quote form Sheeds, it was just hinted at in a newspaper, I'd prefer Heff to Houli at this stage, especially in Adelaide
macca69
22 Mar 2007, 10:11
never actually seen a quote form Sheeds, it was just hinted at in a newspaper, I'd prefer Heff to Houli at this stage, especially in Adelaide
I didn't know that, but I still think Houli will debut in round 1. The way Freo went about beating Adelaide in the most recent praccy game was spot on; played on at all cost and ran the lines. Adelaide looked slow and struggled to cope, if you are to cause an upset come round 1 guys like Heff aren't the answer IMO. I think Houli will get a gig early.
jules101
22 Mar 2007, 12:09
I didn't know that, but I still think Houli will debut in round 1. The way Freo went about beating Adelaide in the most recent praccy game was spot on; played on at all cost and ran the lines. Adelaide looked slow and struggled to cope, if you are to cause an upset come round 1 guys like Heff aren't the answer IMO. I think Houli will get a gig early.
Would rather Dempsey then Houli if we are going for someone to break the lines.
Pevers-Legend
22 Mar 2007, 13:30
That's exactly why it isn't relevant, they were different years, we were bad they were good, we were good they were bad ect ect.
It may very well be a mental thing as to why we play badly over there but it doesn't mean Sheedy isn't addressing it, if we are to improve this year that's one thing we need to look at.
In all likely hood we may not win, but we don't know how good or bad us and Adelaide will start the year, you just never know.
If Sheedy is addressing the mental thing - then why do we still suck - I would say he is trying with no success on the travel problem.
I'm just sick and tired of getting my hopes up in Adelaide - 04 was a real suprise - mind you all I can think of from that game was murphy's goal on the run from outside 50.
The 05 and 06 games were deplorable.
If they beat us in the middle we are dead! And Hudson will account for Hille with ruckwork - Hille can't ruck (not to say we don't need him in the ruick we do. But he is a poor ruckman who is there for strength and he iis ability around the ground/up forward).
Pevers-Legend
22 Mar 2007, 13:31
Didn't Sheeds say Houli and Jetta would play also? I'd be very surprised if they missed tbh. Adelaide will have a very short forwardline given their injuries, so an extra tall in Kepler isn't required. Heffernan is the other who IMO won't play round one.
So from that side:
Out - Heff, Bradley
In - Jetta, Houli
Bradley will play midfield/back up ruck -so we are not tall - just slow.
And Sheedy is/has been far too conservative - hence my selections.
If Sheedy is addressing the mental thing - then why do we still suck - I would say he is trying with no success on the travel problem.
Maybe so, as long as he's trying to do something about it. No point thinking about the last couple of years as its a whole new season, things can change
If they beat us in the middle we are dead! And Hudson will account for Hille with ruckwork - Hille can't ruck (not to say we don't need him in the ruick we do. But he is a poor ruckman who is there for strength and he iis ability around the ground/up forward).
The midfield battle will be our challenge every single week as our forward line is our strength while Mal has helped down back. If we play well in the midfield we'll have a shot every week, but it's a big if, our kicking still needs big improvements
Darealrath
24 Mar 2007, 13:03
Had a vivid dream last night of R1 and we won by 100 points. Great game too. Houli scored the best goal i've ever seen :thumbsu:
jules101
24 Mar 2007, 13:10
Had a vivid dream last night of R1 and we won by 100 points. Great game too. Houli scored the best goal i've ever seen :thumbsu:
Tell him he's dreaming ;)
Darealrath
24 Mar 2007, 13:14
Tell him he's dreaming ;)
:D
Was mighy annoyed when I woke up. Even in the dream I had a moment where I've said to a mate "gee I hope we don't wake up and find this was a dream". Alas...
jules101
24 Mar 2007, 13:21
:D
Was mighy annoyed when I woke up. Even in the dream I had a moment where I've said to a mate "gee I hope we don't wake up and find this was a dream". Alas...
haha
Lets hope it comes true mate
Not a Wellman
24 Mar 2007, 14:40
If we come somewhere near even in the midfield and kick straight we will win.
It would be a fair specticule if Davies, Lovett, Dempsy, Basher, Jetta, Winders, Hird, Dyson and Monfries all played in the same side this week all getting a crack Wing midfield and Forward line.
After reading all the hype about how we have a full side to pick from and how adelaide have a few missing, anything more than a 4 goal loss will be a disgrace.
Had a vivid dream last night of R1 and we won by 100 points. Great game too. Houli scored the best goal i've ever seen :thumbsu:
did you also dream you were there? ;)
After reading all the hype about how we have a full side to pick from and how adelaide have a few missing, anything more than a 4 goal loss will be a disgrace.
I think it's unfair to designate a margin as fluctuation will vary. For example, it could be a really windy day where it's hard to kick a score and a 3 goal loss could be fairly comprehensive. Another example being that the game could be played exceptionally open and whilst we were very much in the game, the margin turned out to be a bit above 4 goals. I think it will be a disgrace if we don't give any sign that were up to winning the game.
as long as we are competitive for four quarters i will be happy.
obviously i will be stoked if we win but winning at aami is just as hard as winning at subi.
don't forget adelaide just missed out on a grand final. it's not going to be as easy as some people are predicting.
Darealrath
24 Mar 2007, 18:42
did you also dream you were there? ;)
Nope :D Was at this pub/beer garden type place and they were playing a new Radiohead album for the first time in the background. Good times.
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
25 Mar 2007, 22:56
B: Welsh, Michael, M.J
HB: McPhee, Fletcher, NLM
C: Monfries, Watson, Winderlich
HF: Hird, Lucas, Lovett
F: Johns, Lloyd, Davey
R: Hille, Stanton, McVeigh
INT: Ryder, Heffernan/Peverill, Dyson, Slattery
-Monfries and Lovett to rotate with each other
-Ryder could rotate with Fletch if need be, or help out in the ruck
-Slattery to possibly go into the middle, his agression in the middle could be usefull
-And Heff or Peverill in the side as a tagger to shut down goodwin
-McVeigh in the middle, we need his great disposal and skill in the middle
couldn't mcveigh or slats tag if they are playing in the middle???
besides that it is a good team.
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
26 Mar 2007, 20:40
couldn't mcveigh or slats tag if they are playing in the middle???
besides that it is a good team.
Yeh they could, but i think that only Slattery should if he's in the middle, but id rather McVeigh being used as an attacking midfielder because I think he could be much more damaging playing attacking. If we had just slattery in the team as our tagger, do you think he would be able to handle someone like Goodwin, or would it be better just going with an experienced tagger such as Pev or Heff just in case?
Azzballz Deluxe
27 Mar 2007, 01:44
FB: mcveigh michael welsh
HB: mcphee fletcher NLM
C: lovett watson winderlich
HF: hird lucas monfries
FF: davey lloyd MJ
R: hille jj stanton
int. ryder slattery johns peverill
emer. bradley campo bolton
lovett wont play in the middle ahead of Angry Angus. Houli is a definite walkinto our 22. He has endurance, speed, and a ****load of heart. Davey is our forward lockin and Jetta IMO will most likely miss. McVeigh wont and cant play midfield, he doesnt have the temperament or the abilty IMO. Also expect the same trick we've seen for over a decade now with Hirdy named on the flank but starting on the ball so i'd look for another flanker in the team not a midfielder!
Yeh they could, but i think that only Slattery should if he's in the middle, but id rather McVeigh being used as an attacking midfielder because I think he could be much more damaging playing attacking. If we had just slattery in the team as our tagger, do you think he would be able to handle someone like Goodwin, or would it be better just going with an experienced tagger such as Pev or Heff just in case?
if mcveigh was playing in the midfield he would be used in an defensive role. stants and jobe will be the attacking players. obviously it would be nice if mcveigh can hurt the crows when we have the ball.
i wouldn't mind slats be used as a tagger as his aggression could be very valuable against the big bodies of the crows. i'm not sure that pev or heff could do much better than slats. goodwin has mauled us the last two times we have played them
crows98
27 Mar 2007, 17:00
I don’t know how many Essendon supporters are coming over to Adelaide this weekend but for the one who are and the Essendon supporters group that live in Adelaide there will be delays around the stadium on Sunday.
******delays on Sunday*****
March 27, 2007 02:15am
AAMI Stadium's gates will open early at 9.45am on Sunday - and Crows, Bombers and all football fans are being urged to find new routes to the West Lakes arena.
Brebner Drive, which stradles AAMI Stadium alongside the Grange Golf Club, will be closed until 10.30am because of a major triathlon in the area.
The Adelaide FC last night advised fans to add extra time to their journey on Sunday and to avoid Brebner Drive at the southern end of AAMI Stadium.
I don’t know how many Essendon supporters are coming over to Adelaide this weekend but for the one who are and the Essendon supporters group that live in Adelaide there will be delays around the stadium on Sunday.
******delays on Sunday*****
March 27, 2007 02:15am
I'm not actually coming across but thanks for thinking of the ones that are.
Cheers mate
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
27 Mar 2007, 17:52
So hulld, where do you think McVeigh should play?, which position do you think he could hurt sides most when playing?
I think McVeighs best position for us in on the bench and used as a pinch-hitter. Give him a 10 minute burst at the end of the first and 3rd quarters on a wing or up forward and otherwise i'd slot him in down back if Welsh or Lovett-Murray are getting beaten.
I think McVeighs best position for us in on the bench and used as a pinch-hitter. Give him a 10 minute burst at the end of the first and 3rd quarters on a wing or up forward and otherwise i'd slot him in down back if Welsh or Lovett-Murray are getting beaten.
I think that's wasting him. McVeigh's got great fitness and great pace. McVeigh is also the most likely of the small defenders to stop his opponent. Impact players are guys that struggle with the pace of the game, those being young players and older players. McVeigh has no such problem and thus, is a full game player.
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
27 Mar 2007, 19:14
:thumbsu:I think that's wasting him. McVeigh's got great fitness and great pace. McVeigh is also the most likely of the small defenders to stop his opponent. Impact players are guys that struggle with the pace of the game, those being young players and older players. McVeigh has no such problem and thus, is a full game player.
You couldn't be more right! :thumbsu:
Good luck beating the scum.
I hope Lloydy and Michael have blinders.
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
27 Mar 2007, 20:18
Good luck beating the scum.
I hope Lloydy and Michael have blinders.
As do i!!!!
bomberbilly
27 Mar 2007, 20:44
I'm not actually coming across but thanks for thinking of the ones that are.
Cheers mate
anybody know if theres a pub near the ground we can get to early before the game? Id like to avoid the traffic that could be happening due to the triathalon. This is my first trip to adelaide so hopefully it will be memorable for all the right reasons :thumbsu: go bombers!