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according to channel 10 news, no changes to our team
Mr.Kennedy
12 Apr 2007, 18:49
according to channel 10 news, no changes to our teamConfirmed on CFC website.I was hoping Hartlett or Edwards would get a game.
Jeremias
12 Apr 2007, 18:50
That is a ****ing disgrace.
When you get pumped by more than 11 goals, changes must be made.
:thumbsd:
gandaal
12 Apr 2007, 18:53
Surprising but considering most of the poor performers were senior players last week, Grigg got himself injuried and Blackwell struggled in the VFL for the first time in ages prehaps it isn't so surprising.
bluegal1983
12 Apr 2007, 18:57
That is a ****ing disgrace.
When you get pumped by more than 11 goals, changes must be made.
:thumbsd:
Disagree. I think it's good Pagan is persisting with the same team.
BlueWorld
12 Apr 2007, 19:06
That is a ****ing disgrace.
When you get pumped by more than 11 goals, changes must be made.
:thumbsd:
Changes for the sake of changes? That team had won 5 games straight.
Jeremias
12 Apr 2007, 19:12
Disagree. I think it's good Pagan is persisting with the same team.
If the team is working then by all means-but it didn't work last week...
Jeremias
12 Apr 2007, 19:13
Changes for the sake of changes? That team had won 5 games straight.
Chang for the sake of improving the team-there should be serious improvement from last week.
bluegal1983
12 Apr 2007, 19:14
If the team is working then by all means-but it didn't work last week...
It didn't work for one week and you want heads to roll?
Geelong would have beaten anybody on Saturday night! Everything went their way!
Poz_Utd_V.2
12 Apr 2007, 19:14
Changes for the sake of changes? That team had won 5 games straight.
Exactly one bad week don't mean we need massive changes, remember we were taking the NAB cup seriously so we had won 5 in a row which is good.
If we play like we did against Geelong again this week though there will be changes.
blues4flag
12 Apr 2007, 19:43
One loss and suddenly the sky is falling...
We've just come of five wins in a row, and yet as soon as we lose one some supporters expect massive changes. It was only one loss, yes it was a thumping but get on with it. I would've like to see Lappin dropped, but other than that, leave the team as it is (Whitnall was never going to be dropped). If there's continuous bad performances, then make changes.
whippersnipper
12 Apr 2007, 19:47
Matthew Lappin should count his lucky stars he is getting a gig this week.
stokesy
12 Apr 2007, 19:57
Matthew Lappin should count his lucky stars he is getting a gig this week.
Absolutely, hopefully he is set for a big game this weekend. We need him to fire.
blueboys1
12 Apr 2007, 19:59
what a joke
here we go again
the only way for us to get better is give a few kids a go each week
turn them over like the top teams have done
look what brisbane have done
all the kids played last year and now they have game time into them
our team that going out this week is not good enough PAGAN
the best this team can finish is 14th
Hartlett must play soon
Just a joke
Essendon will kill us ( I hope I'm wrong )
I'm sure Pratt we not put up with this sh.t for too long
Andyt30
12 Apr 2007, 20:03
That is a ****ing disgrace.
When you get pumped by more than 11 goals, changes must be made.
:thumbsd:
thank god your not our coach you wouldn;t have a side to coach ;)
ya just don't chop and change every time ya loose
they need to play like that week in week out not 1 game
we needed that Even Fev was expecting the Loss
good Pagan its up to you not the supporters when their is axing :thumbsu:
The Lance Whitnall distraction continues...
blueboys1
12 Apr 2007, 20:06
Joe Anderson, Luke Blackwell , Adam Hartlett would love to see any of them playing before Whitnall
blueboys1
12 Apr 2007, 20:09
A team more like this would give us something to grow with
B Russell, S O’hAilpin, Thornton
HB Bower, Waite, Lappin
C Simpson, Stevens , Walker
HF Fisher, Kennedy ,Carrazzo
F Hartlett, Fevola, Betts
R Ackland, Gibbs, Murphy
Int, Blackwell, Bentick, Anderson, Cloke
to this side we have
B: Ryan Houlihan, Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Walker , Lance Whitnall , Heath Scotland
C: Matthew Lappin , Nick Stevens , Kade Simpson
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Jarrad Waite, Brad Fisher
F: Josh Kennedy, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
FOLL: Cameron Cloke , Bryce Gibbs , Marc Murphy
I/C: Cain Ackland, Adam Bentick, Jordan Russell, Simon Wiggins
EMG: Joe Anderson, Luke Blackwell , Adam Hartlett
The red ones should go
Sure Houlihan Scotland get kicks but they don't chase and how many winning teams have they played in
Whitnall is far to slow for AFL of today ( What a joke he is Captain )
Wiggins works hard but just isn't up to it
Jeremias
12 Apr 2007, 20:10
thank god your not our coach you wouldn;t have a side to coach ;)
ya just don't chop and change every time ya loose
they need to play like that week in week out not 1 game
we needed that Even Fev was expecting the Loss
good Pagan its up to you not the supporters when their is axing :thumbsu:
Thank god you're not a teacher-they usually need to be able to spell correctly and form gramatically correct sentences.
Poz_Utd_V.2
12 Apr 2007, 20:22
A team more like this would give us something to grow with
B Russell, S O’hAilpin, Thornton
HB Bower, Waite, Lappin
C Simpson, Stevens , Walker
HF Fisher, Kennedy ,Carrazzo
F Hartlett, Fevola, Betts
R Ackland, Gibbs, Murphy
Int, Blackwell, Bentick, Anderson, Cloke
to this side we have
B: Ryan Houlihan, Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Walker , Lance Whitnall , Heath Scotland
C: Matthew Lappin , Nick Stevens , Kade Simpson
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Jarrad Waite, Brad Fisher
F: Josh Kennedy, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
FOLL: Cameron Cloke , Bryce Gibbs , Marc Murphy
I/C: Cain Ackland, Adam Bentick, Jordan Russell, Simon Wiggins
EMG: Joe Anderson, Luke Blackwell , Adam Hartlett
The red ones should go
Sure Houlihan Scotland get kicks but they don't chase and how many winning teams have they played in
Whitnall is far to slow for AFL of today ( What a joke he is Captain )
Wiggins works hard but just isn't up to it
Yeh why don't we just not play the most experienced players we have in our side, if you play that side right now then welcome another wooden spoon and another number 1 pick
blueboys1
12 Apr 2007, 20:23
Yeh why don't we just not play the most experienced players we have in our side, if you play that side right now then welcome another wooden spoon and another number 1 pick
The side we have now will give us that forsure
BlueWorld
12 Apr 2007, 20:26
Hartlett must play soon
I'm sure Pratt we not put up with this sh.t for too long
We have too many talls as it is. We'd have to drop Kennedy.
Should Pratt pick the team?
Poz_Utd_V.2
12 Apr 2007, 20:28
The side we have now will give us that forsure
And you are basing that prediction after 2 rounds of the season??? Where we have 1 win and 1 loss
blues4flag
12 Apr 2007, 20:28
what a joke
here we go again
the only way for us to get better is give a few kids a go each week
turn them over like the top teams have done
look what brisbane have done
all the kids played last year and now they have game time into them
our team that going out this week is not good enough PAGAN
the best this team can finish is 14th
Hartlett must play soon
Just a joke
Essendon will kill us ( I hope I'm wrong )
I'm sure Pratt we not put up with this sh.t for too long
Interesting you state the Lions comparison. Of Brisbane's 21 players twenty years old and under, 5 played 10 or more games. Only one of their under 20 players played 10+ games, that being Rhan Hooper.
Meanwhile of our 20 players twenty years old and under, 6 have played 10+, with two players of our under 20's having played 10+ games in Murphy and Kennedy.
The difference with Brisbane is that they've got a lot of 21-23 year olds coming through now, guys who matured at QAFL level because they couldn't break into the Lions premiership side. To put it into perspective, the "young" Lions like Rischetteli, Adcock, Moody, Selwood, Roe, Mcgrath are all Bentick's age or older. Although young, they're not as young as many would think, in particular Roe, who although inexperienced is already 23. Their other talented youngsters, like Sherman, Begley and Wood are all about Walker's age. All these guys, although recent debutants , have mature bodies as they're older than most debutants which is why they've had an impact straight away.
BlueWorld
12 Apr 2007, 20:31
Sure Houlihan Scotland get kicks but they don't chase and how many winning teams have they played in Whitnall is far to slow for AFL of today
They've probably played in more winning teams than anyone else- Whitnall & Houlihan pre 2002 when we generally won, Scotland played in 2 Grand finals at Collingwood.
TheGeneral
12 Apr 2007, 20:39
We have too many talls as it is. We'd have to drop Kennedy.
We should drop Lance if he doesn't fire soon.
Should Pratt pick the team?
No, but he'll pick the coach of that team.
Pratt's record to date in signing Swan, Icke and Rogers gives us more cause for optimism than the coaching panel. We should have dropped Lappin to bring in Anderson or Bower speed to play on one of their smalls, but we do match up well against their best players and we beat them in the NAB cup.
The likes of Jetta, Lovett, Winderlich and Davey are front runners so we shouldn't expect too much from them if we break even in the middle and the ruck.
Blues by two goals.
TheGeneral
12 Apr 2007, 20:43
They've probably played in more winning teams than anyone else- Whitnall & Houlihan pre 2002 when we generally won, Scotland played in 2 Grand finals at Collingwood.
Is it 2002 or 2007?:confused:
The game has changed since then and Lance is slower than ever, Houlihan is still a Houlihan and soft as butter and Scotland lets the likes of Thomas get a lot of the ball.
Should we bring back Simon Fletcher and Prendergast as well? ;)
BlueWorld
12 Apr 2007, 20:48
If we're going to drop everyone who hasn't played in winning teams we'd have nobody left. And let's hear some more boring cliches.
I think this is interesting and not a bad tactic .. one more week for the guys who played below par to redeem themselves or else surely there will be a few who have a spell in the two's if we lose this one.
Btw stop counting pre-season games as wins .... it shows good form to win them but they're not 4 points!
That is a ****ing disgrace.
When you get pumped by more than 11 goals, changes must be made.
:thumbsd:
I think Dennis has a policy of giving guys a chance to redeemd themselves. Fair enough too.
Not too many times I would have though ever that a team gets belted by 13 goals, and doesn't make a single change. Very surprising indeed.
Sublime
12 Apr 2007, 23:32
Pagan has made it clear thats he's going to have alot of faith in his best 22, especially his captain. But that said, if we have another bad week the changes will ring in for next week i'm sure of it. There is only so much faith he can keep when push comes to shove. Lappin being at the head of the queue.
AndyWalkersGirl
12 Apr 2007, 23:45
Not too many times I would have though ever that a team gets belted by 13 goals, and doesn't make a single change. Very surprising indeed.
I think it's fair to say that if we lose this week, changes will be made?
I think it's fair to say that if we lose this week, changes will be made?
yes. i don't doubt that for a second.
Pagan has made it clear thats he's going to have alot of faith in his best 22, especially his captain. But that said, if we have another bad week the changes will ring in for next week i'm sure of it. There is only so much faith he can keep when push comes to shove. Lappin being at the head of the queue.
More likely, we just don't have the depth right now.
Someone earlier called for Scotland to be dropped. A week after getting 38 touches! I'm sure that has never happened in the history of the game. At least he's getting a kick - unlike certain other players in the team...
KnockOut
13 Apr 2007, 02:03
Lappin
Whitnall
Kennedy
Fev
all need to play good for Carlton to play well. Unfortunately they've 'cemented' there spot in the side with little trouble. Disappointing to see guys like Carazzo & Bentick have one off day and sent straight back to the reserves. We're getting there though.
a1118374
13 Apr 2007, 03:31
Not too many times I would have though ever that a team gets belted by 13 goals, and doesn't make a single change. Very surprising indeed.
adelaide crows last year, after they got done by west coast
everybody needs to relax. have a little faith. let the boys play one more match isnt gonna matter in 2-3 years. if we struggle as bad as last week again it will change
a1118374
13 Apr 2007, 03:34
Lappin
Whitnall
Kennedy
Fev
all need to play good for Carlton to play well. Unfortunately they've 'cemented' there spot in the side with little trouble. Disappointing to see guys like Carazzo & Bentick have one off day and sent straight back to the reserves. We're getting there though.
agree on carrots and bentick but your first bit is oversimplified. coleman medal....best and fairest/captain.......lappin this is probably his last chance and last week wasnt kennedys fault,i cant believe the 4 you chose ? very odd post
Kennedy should be dropped. He really hasn't done much. Although he didn't play too bad last year against Essendon. Ryan Jackson should be promoted from the rookie list in place of Grigg. Wouldve love to see Hartlett or Blackwell this weekend
Kennedy should be dropped.
i don't agree. he should play every game rain hail or shine and should have been told that he would play every game right from the start of the season.
unlikely that we will have the ultimate success this year, so invest this year into the future.
i don't agree. he should play every game rain hail or shine and should have been told that he would play every game right from the start of the season.
unlikely that we will have the ultimate success this year, so invest this year into the future.
to some degree, I agree with you. Though if we should invest into the future, shouldn't we also see Hartlett, Blackwell, Raso and the like making senior appearances? Is it possible that we can use a rotation system with our kids?
to some degree, I agree with you. Though if we should invest into the future, shouldn't we also see Hartlett, Blackwell, Raso and the like making senior appearances? Is it possible that we can use a rotation system with our kids?
I think we should see some other young guys in the team during the year, but Kennedy is a little different and should playe evry game no matter what.
KnockOut
13 Apr 2007, 16:36
agree on carrots and bentick but your first bit is oversimplified. coleman medal....best and fairest/captain.......lappin this is probably his last chance and last week wasnt kennedys fault,i cant believe the 4 you chose ? very odd post
No i wasn't saying to drop them. More of a need to play well for Carlton to win matches. Lappin & Kennedy should be at the top of the order. Unfortunately players like Bentick, Carazzo and Wiggins don't get as much of a chance as the others.
sticks74
13 Apr 2007, 16:49
No i wasn't saying to drop them. More of a need to play well for Carlton to win matches. Lappin & Kennedy should be at the top of the order. Unfortunately players like Bentick, Carazzo and Wiggins don't get as much of a chance as the others.
Wiggins has had 7 years on our list and Carazzo has been at two clubs...Id say thats a fair chance!
mediumsizered
13 Apr 2007, 22:40
A team more like this would give us something to grow with
B Russell, S O’hAilpin, Thornton
HB Bower, Waite, Lappin
C Simpson, Stevens , Walker
HF Fisher, Kennedy ,Carrazzo
F Hartlett, Fevola, Betts
R Ackland, Gibbs, Murphy
Int, Blackwell, Bentick, Anderson, Cloke
to this side we have
B: Ryan Houlihan, Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Walker , Lance Whitnall , Heath Scotland
C: Matthew Lappin , Nick Stevens , Kade Simpson
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Jarrad Waite, Brad Fisher
F: Josh Kennedy, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
FOLL: Cameron Cloke , Bryce Gibbs , Marc Murphy
I/C: Cain Ackland, Adam Bentick, Jordan Russell, Simon Wiggins
EMG: Joe Anderson, Luke Blackwell , Adam Hartlett
The red ones should go
Sure Houlihan Scotland get kicks but they don't chase and how many winning teams have they played in
Whitnall is far to slow for AFL of today ( What a joke he is Captain )
Wiggins works hard but just isn't up to it
Interesting that you didn't highlight Lappin. He has done less than Scotland, Houlihan & Wiggins in both games. I'm assuming it was just an oversight, otherwise it truly demonstrates your bias against certain players. Lappin's 20 disposals in 2 games, most of them as soft as hot butter, makes him the player who should be most under the pump.
Interesting that you didn't highlight Lappin. He has done less than Scotland, Houlihan & Wiggins in both games. I'm assuming it was just an oversight, otherwise it truly demonstrates your bias against certain players. Lappin's 20 disposals in 2 games, most of them as soft as hot butter, makes him the player who should be most under the pump.
yeah that normal butter can be hard to spread at times :P