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mathew ollaik
13 Apr 2007, 01:21
CARLTON V ESSENDON
Saturday, 2:10pm AEST, MCG
CARLTON
B: Ryan Houlihan, Setanta O’hAilpin, Bret Thornton
HB: Andrew Walker , Lance Whitnall , Heath Scotland
C: Matthew Lappin , Nick Stevens , Kade Simpson
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Jarrad Waite, Brad Fisher
F: Josh Kennedy, Brendan Fevola, Eddie Betts
FOLL: Cameron Cloke , Bryce Gibbs , Marc Murphy
I/C: Cain Ackland, Adam Bentick, Jordan Russell, Simon Wiggins
EMG: Joe Anderson, Luke Blackwell , Adam Hartlett
No change
ESSENDON
B: Patrick Ryder, Mal Michael, Mark McVeigh
HB: Adam McPhee, Dustin Fletcher, Henry Slattery
C: Brent Stanton, James Hird, Angus Monfries
HF: Mark Johnson, Scott Lucas, Andrew Lovett
F: Leroy Jetta, Matthew Lloyd, Jobe Watson
FOLL: David Hille, Jason Winderlich, Damien Peverill
I/C: Jason Laycock, Alwyn Davey, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Chris Heffernan
EMG: Courtney Johns, Kepler Bradley, Ricky Dyson
I think mcveigh would tag nick stevens, watson in the midfield andhird will start the game in the forward line and move up the ground as the game goes on. Get ready for Fletcher to get around 25 posessions.
Riddell_Bombers
13 Apr 2007, 01:54
Poor Setanta looks like he's going to have a long, long day.
ManWithNoName
13 Apr 2007, 02:04
Whittnall on Lucas :D
Sentanta on Lloyd :D
Message to Setanta:
"Its no longer pre-season cup. Prepare to have your ass handed to you."
It will be nice to see all of the Carlton faithful who splurted their crap in the AFL thread after the first pre-season game have to eat their words. It was LLloyds first game back, of course he was going to be rusty.
Setanta, be prepared.
Whittnall on Lucas :D
Doubt Lance will play on Lucas. Probably will go to Waite.
And if Sentanta is getting stitched up by Lloyd, move Thornton on him. It is all gonna depend on the midfield anyway, I expect a good showing from your forward line regardless. In particular, I expect a good showing from Fev. He's gonna want blood after last week.
Will be a good match, as usual. :thumbsu:
....and llyod has been in such awesome form as well.
....and llyod has been in such awesome form as well.
Like 2 goals, seventeen or so disposals against Ben Rutten. His form is alright although I still feel like he is still a bit underdone.
Smyth94
13 Apr 2007, 08:08
Lloyd has been solid without being spectacular... If he can still kick a lazy 4 goals a game while Scotty is ripping it up then I would be a very happy man
Bluebear
13 Apr 2007, 08:44
Message to Setanta:
"Its no longer pre-season cup. Prepare to have your ass handed to you."
It will be nice to see all of the Carlton faithful who splurted their crap in the AFL thread after the first pre-season game have to eat their words. It was LLloyds first game back, of course he was going to be rusty.
Setanta, be prepared.
You make me laugh.............I really hope for your sake that Lloyd is switched on.........;)
thebigboy
13 Apr 2007, 08:49
You make me laugh.............I really hope for your sake that Lloyd is switched on.........;)
Yeah its not everday that you can see a full-forward kick 10+. Even if he's playing with in himself, i'd expect him to kick 5+ on Sentanta.
Pie_squasher
13 Apr 2007, 09:07
I think mcveigh would tag nick stevens, watson in the midfield andhird will start the game in the forward line and move up the ground as the game goes on. Get ready for Fletcher to get around 25 posessions.[/quote]
Fabulous news - Stevens will surely get 35 possessions then
whippety boy
13 Apr 2007, 09:09
Yeah its not everday that you can see a full-forward kick 10+. Even if he's playing with in himself, i'd expect him to kick 5+ on Sentanta.
Is that like when Matty only stages for free kicks sometimes?
[B]Fabulous news - Stevens will surely get 35 possessions then
wow, you obvioulsy haven't watched us yet, carry on :thumbsu:
Bronx Bomber
13 Apr 2007, 09:21
wow, you obvioulsy haven't watched us yet, carry on :thumbsu:
Absolutly right. McVeigh cut Peter Bell to pieces last week. I would say he was close to best on ground. Kicked 2 great goals in the first quarter as well.
He could really hurt Stevo & Carlton on the rebound.
whippety boy
13 Apr 2007, 09:28
Absolutly right. McVeigh cut Peter Bell to pieces last week. I would say he was close to best on ground. Kicked 2 great goals in the first quarter as well.
He could really hurt Stevo & Carlton on the rebound.Bell was Freos best in the first half, had 22 touches and kicked a goal. at 32 you wouldn't expect Bell to be dominating these days.
Bronx Bomber
13 Apr 2007, 09:43
Bell was Freos best in the first half, had 22 touches and kicked a goal. at 32 you wouldn't expect Bell to be dominating these days.
True. But McVeigh was very good at I thought that his disposal hurt Freo more than Bell's hurt Essendon.
Pie_squasher
13 Apr 2007, 10:27
wow, you obvioulsy haven't watched us yet, carry on :thumbsu:
I'm not the one getting ahead of myself.....McVeigh is nowehere near the class of Stevens. Who played on him in the NAB cup game earlier this year?
you're not the one getting ahead of yourself???
carlton were going to make the eight weren't they after they won the all important NAB cup?
I'm not the one getting ahead of myself.....McVeigh is nowehere near the class of Stevens. Who played on him in the NAB cup game earlier this year?
You're showing yourself up again, yes Stevens is a very good player but so is McVeigh who has started the year extremely well, he's been a major factor in both wins
Bell was Freos best in the first half, had 22 touches and kicked a goal. at 32 you wouldn't expect Bell to be dominating these days.
Bell had an excellent first quarter and was shut down for most of the game after that, McVeigh also kicked a goal himslef in the first quarter and applied much pressure through out the game, I'd suggest to Carlton fans to watch some games before making unfounded comments.
Not sure what his age has to do with anything, apparently on Big Footy footy players die on their 30th birthday.
didn't mcveigh kick two goals in the first quarter???
jack_mack50
13 Apr 2007, 13:21
i thought McVeigh kicked 2 in the 1st as well. Oh well i would think Waite to take Lucas, pity it's not Lance though, Scotty would've done enough to assure him the coleman at round 3;)
mathew ollaik
13 Apr 2007, 13:22
didn't mcveigh kick two goals in the first quarter???
yeh he did.
mathew ollaik
13 Apr 2007, 13:28
The only reason carlton won last time was because Fletcher and Lloyd were out. Plus Joel (retard) Renalds played on fevola!!!!
donsman4eva
13 Apr 2007, 13:41
Bell was Freos best in the first half, had 22 touches and kicked a goal. at 32 you wouldn't expect Bell to be dominating these days.
Actually Bell had 20 possies. Only 8 of those were after McVeigh got moved to him.
donsman4eva
13 Apr 2007, 13:42
I'm not the one getting ahead of myself.....McVeigh is nowehere near the class of Stevens. Who played on him in the NAB cup game earlier this year?
We're not saying he is of the class of Stevens. But taggers don't need to be of that quality, they only need to know how to stop players of that quality.
S.C[BANKS]
13 Apr 2007, 14:48
Oh well i would think Waite to take Lucas, pity it's not Lance though, Scotty would've done enough to assure him the coleman at round 3;)
:D Nice post man
:thumbsu:
FieryNayta
13 Apr 2007, 15:31
you're not the one getting ahead of yourself???
carlton were going to make the eight weren't they after they won the all important NAB cup?
Most of us carlton fans didnt buy into the post nab cup hype. We do however believe we can be alot more competitive and give a few teams a scare this season
Most of us carlton fans didnt buy into the post nab cup hype. We do however believe we can be alot more competitive and give a few teams a scare this season
if have been to the carlton board you would have seen that most of you carlton supporters did think you were going to make the eight, including your dud captain
Bluebear
13 Apr 2007, 19:05
if have been to the carlton board you would have seen that most of you carlton supporters did think you were going to make the eight, including your dud captain
i have been there all year, and you are wrong. No nice way to say it, but after the NAB cup we took a poll, and MOST posters had us finishing between 10th and 15th win somewhere between 6-10 wins.
This is achievable.
I want my captain to come out and say we are aiming for finals, if they weren't I would be disappointed. Does that mean he thinks that's were we should be? No, don't be silly, but set your aim high or you will always under achieve.
Unlike the Tigers, whose coach came out the week before the season started and said we are aiming to not improve this year........WTF?
No wonder their start to the year has been less than inspired.
Now, you can of course be ridiculous and come out and say that we are aiming to go from 3 1/2 wins and equal last to the top 4.......but what kind of idiot would make that sort of prediction........you could even allow speculation that the coaches future rides on that kind of success..........but that would just be foolish now wouldn't it. :rolleyes:
didn't mcveigh kick two goals in the first quarter???
yes he did i was at the game and Essendon mid range players all played well and thats why we are improving so much
Now, you can of course be ridiculous and come out and say that we are aiming to go from 3 1/2 wins and equal last to the top 4.......but what kind of idiot would make that sort of prediction........you could even allow speculation that the coaches future rides on that kind of success..........but that would just be foolish now wouldn't it. :rolleyes:
hirdy said that he believed that they could finish top 4. after beating two "top 4" sides in a row what is he expected to say???
"oh, we have a couple of goods win but we will probably drop off soon."
sheedy himself wouldn't deny the fact that he is in troouble if we don't have a vastly improved season. i don't think hirdy was breaking any news there
i have been there all year, and you are wrong. No nice way to say it, but after the NAB cup we took a poll, and MOST posters had us finishing between 10th and 15th win somewhere between 6-10 wins.
This is achievable.
I want my captain to come out and say we are aiming for finals, if they weren't I would be disappointed. Does that mean he thinks that's were we should be? No, don't be silly, but set your aim high or you will always under achieve.
Unlike the Tigers, whose coach came out the week before the season started and said we are aiming to not improve this year........WTF?
No wonder their start to the year has been less than inspired.
Now, you can of course be ridiculous and come out and say that we are aiming to go from 3 1/2 wins and equal last to the top 4.......but what kind of idiot would make that sort of prediction........you could even allow speculation that the coaches future rides on that kind of success..........but that would just be foolish now wouldn't it. :rolleyes:
Incorrect, because we finished 15th....not equal last....
FiNaTiC
13 Apr 2007, 20:38
dont get me wrong the dons look great this year and i think will have a good year.. but if i no essendon they will let this should win game slip and undo their good work// I really hope im wrong.. but our previous early season carlton games have not been good.. even in our stronger years.. hope they have turned the cornor and i think this game is one of the msot important games of the year.. cos its all well and good to win the ones u are not expeceted to win.. .but games like these can make or break a young sides year....
you haven't got a young side mate. fletcher, llyod, hird, lucas, michael, johnson, johnson, peverill, not really a young side. the difference is that this year michael has come in and freed fletcher, which has also allowed mcphee to play a running game off the half back line. once those two players are allowed latitude they cut sides apart....imo and hope that it won't happen this week.
dave_27
13 Apr 2007, 22:04
you haven't got a young side mate.
Half of the side selected to play tomorrow has played less than 60 games.
Thats not a very experienced side.
Bluebear
13 Apr 2007, 23:45
Incorrect, because we finished 15th....not equal last....
good spot this......might change tackle though......get me some of those gig uns.....:p
donsman4eva
14 Apr 2007, 00:41
you haven't got a young side mate. fletcher, llyod, hird, lucas, michael, johnson, johnson, peverill, not really a young side. the difference is that this year michael has come in and freed fletcher, which has also allowed mcphee to play a running game off the half back line. once those two players are allowed latitude they cut sides apart....imo and hope that it won't happen this week.
Ok for a start, 1 of those players isnt named. We have 2 first year players playing. Our most experienced midfielder apart from Peverill is probably Stanton, who you could hardly call old.
Sure, on averages we dont hav a young list, but it isnt a very experienced list. Most of the guys you have named havent got 200 games to their name.
Weve still got years of building ahead of us, this is simply the start of a dynasty.
Darealrath
14 Apr 2007, 10:52
If those articles in the Age and Sun today don't fire the boys up something is wrong. Walls as smug as ever and the H/S going on about '99. God I hope we smash them.
The only reason carlton won last time was because Fletcher and Lloyd were out. Plus Joel (retard) Renalds played on fevola!!!!
You're a loser.
Pie_squasher
18 Apr 2007, 12:33
The only reason carlton won last time was because Fletcher and Lloyd were out. Plus Joel (retard) Renalds played on fevola!!!!
Dearest Matthew,
What is your excuse after the weekend? Stop looking for excuses - a good side has good depth
don4eva
18 Apr 2007, 12:59
Dearest Matthew,
What is your excuse after the weekend? Stop looking for excuses - a good side has good depth
That rules out Carlton being a good side then. :rolleyes:
Bluebear
18 Apr 2007, 13:22
That rules out Carlton being a good side then. :rolleyes:
Does it still taste bitter? :p
Hey, great get on the Mal Michale thing too.......he gonna be a star at full back...........just wait until he plays on the big Wrestling type FF's who don't really lead..............oh wait..............um..........shit eh?
Never mind, was a good idea at the time.:o
don4eva
18 Apr 2007, 13:28
Does it still taste bitter? :p
More than you'll know!
Hey, great get on the Mal Michale thing too.......he gonna be a star at full back...........just wait until he plays on the big Wrestling type FF's who don't really lead..............oh wait..............um..........shit eh?
Never mind, was a good idea at the time.:o
You'd be a fool not to take him at the price we got him... which was nothing.
Didn't stop us from drafting 8 quality kids last year though. :thumbsu:
Guys, just stop replying to the posts abour carlton v Essendon as the carlton supporters are just trying to extend our pain.
Bear, we have moved on and are looking ahead to our game this weekend.
PS:Yes it still tastes very bitter
Bluebear
18 Apr 2007, 13:32
Guys, just stop replying to the posts abour carlton v Essendon as the carlton supporters are just trying to extend our pain.
Bear, we have moved on and are looking ahead to our game this weekend.
PS:Yes it still tastes very bitter
Would we do that?;)
Good luck this week.
Saints - hard to read their form. No Fraser though - ? Drop Michael.........in all honesty doesn't really have a match up against the saints.
Not sure who to tip - is there form here for one side vs another?
kelvin_sheedy
18 Apr 2007, 13:52
Would we do that?;)
Good luck this week.
Saints - hard to read their form. No Fraser though - ? Drop Michael.........in all honesty doesn't really have a match up against the saints.
Not sure who to tip - is there form here for one side vs another?
Neither do Lucas and Lloyd with Hudghton and Maguire out. I think we should drop them also so we can find better matchups ;)
Bluebear
18 Apr 2007, 14:05
Neither do Lucas and Lloyd with Hudghton and Maguire out. I think we should drop them also so we can find better matchups ;)
Possibly the dumbest post i have ever read in my life.
My IQ dropped by the end of the first sentece.
For the sake of humanity don't reproduce.:(