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Larakin15
16 Apr 2007, 15:38
...showed again why is one of Bomber's favourites yesterday. Kept Davey very quiet yesterday, despite coming back from dodgy hammy's and Daveys pace. Daveys only contribution was his tackling, which is basically out of DJ's control...
His skills are very good as well, that bullet pass to Tommy in the 2nd quarter was brilliant, and that mark he took was a beauty. :thumbsu:
...
CatmanForever
16 Apr 2007, 15:51
he played a great game I agree, but it must also be mentioned that Davey is down on form at the moment which helped Johno's cause.
chapmanmagic35
16 Apr 2007, 16:35
He was very good. His determination and courage can never be questioned.
Hairy Cat Mooney
16 Apr 2007, 16:38
DJ should get a go on Mark Williams in the game next week.
thehoff
16 Apr 2007, 17:01
Once again, this sticks it up all those people who were doubting his worth to the team some weeks back..
DJ was fantastic, yet again. I'd have him in the side before a number of people, particully, Hunt.
Larakin15
16 Apr 2007, 17:14
he played a great game I agree, but it must also be mentioned that Davey is down on form at the moment which helped Johno's cause.
He may be down on form, but he is one of their most damaging players, and is due to come good at any stage - DJ stopped it from being against us...
catempire
16 Apr 2007, 17:30
Once again, this sticks it up all those people who were doubting his worth to the team some weeks back..
DJ was fantastic, yet again. I'd have him in the side before a number of people, particully, Hunt.
*waits for thehoff to be torn a new one by Geelong board Hunt lovers*
thehoff
16 Apr 2007, 17:54
*waits for thehoff to be torn a new one by Geelong board Hunt lovers*
Of all people of this board, i have the most right to rip into Josh.
catempire
16 Apr 2007, 18:14
Of all people of this board, i have the most right to rip into Josh.
Why's that?
darren forssman
16 Apr 2007, 18:33
Why's that?
he would not let hoff play with his string, thats why!!
thehoff
17 Apr 2007, 15:32
Why's that?
Because.
SriLankanCat
17 Apr 2007, 15:45
Thehoff i hope ur not blaming him for nick davis' goals a few years ago haha
He is a fantastic player David Johnson, can kcik goals too
cat in sydney
17 Apr 2007, 15:49
It's helpful for the commentators at least that he's allowed a three day growth to appear on his scalp... none of them confused him with Chappy this week :D :thumbsu:
imo, he's a very key part of our team. Gives it everything all the time.
someday-somehow
17 Apr 2007, 16:01
It's helpful for the commentators at least that he's allowed a three day growth to appear on his scalp... none of them confused him with Chappy this week :D :thumbsu:
imo, he's a very key part of our team. Gives it everything all the time.
Exactly, I don't think he will ever be a champion at the game but like Max Rooke always gives it his all and if all players did that then you have a champion team
thehoff
17 Apr 2007, 16:12
Thehoff i hope ur not blaming him for nick davis' goals a few years ago haha
He is a fantastic player David Johnson, can kcik goals too
Nope, i defended him black and blue about that... i have my reasons.
catempire
17 Apr 2007, 16:15
Nope, i defended him black and blue about that... i have my reasons.
Share the wealth Dave.
darren forssman
17 Apr 2007, 17:21
Nope, i defended him black and blue about that... i have my reasons.
you are not really called "hoff johnson" are you?
thehoff
17 Apr 2007, 17:29
you are not really called "hoff johnson" are you?
Don't Hassle the Hoff boys! :D
darren forssman
1 May 2007, 10:44
how good was this guy on sunday?
3 goals in 20 minutes!!!
chapmanmagic35
1 May 2007, 12:53
Further proof he gets cut up badly by good players.
sarah.13
1 May 2007, 15:20
Further proof he gets cut up badly by good players.
Should be capt. of the Vfl team next year.Good clubman but not up to it at the senior level.
Should be capt. of the Vfl team next year.Good clubman but not up to it at the senior level.
Righto, so you're saying he will be delisted at season's end. Fair enough...I'm sure many would agree with you. Won't it be a shock for you, though, if he is to re-sign in the coming weeks when contract talks with players begin! I guess we'll wait and see.
sarah.13
1 May 2007, 18:40
Righto, so you're saying he will be delisted at season's end. Fair enough...I'm sure many would agree with you. Won't it be a shock for you, though, if he is to re-sign in the coming weeks when contract talks with players begin! I guess we'll wait and see.
What's your piont? Are you saying that he should be kept on the list? If so,say so. In my opinion he is not,but as previously stated is a good clubman and should be kept at the club in some capacity.
catempire
1 May 2007, 20:08
This thread should be held up as an example of the fickle nature of Geelong supporters. Starts out praising a player, ends up bagging him. Classic.
FWIW, DJ has done some good jobs in the past (just two weeks ago in fact). He was pus on the weekend. That doesn't mean it's the end of him.
This thread should be held up as an example of the fickle nature of Geelong supporters. Starts out praising a player, ends up bagging him. Classic.
FWIW, DJ has done some good jobs in the past (just two weeks ago in fact). He was pus on the weekend. That doesn't mean it's the end of him.
I agree totally and can say the same for many players. Enright is one and Corey is another. The media rag on them, so everyone jumps on the bandwagon calling for them to be dropped. So predictable...
Notice a lack of Nathan Ablett threads / discussion recently??
catempire
1 May 2007, 20:34
Notice a lack of Nathan Ablett threads / discussion recently??
I do, but he has runs on the board from rounds 1 and 2. Another poor game though, and I'll be asking for him to be dropped.
I do, but he has runs on the board from rounds 1 and 2. Another poor game though, and I'll be asking for him to be dropped.
... and you'll be hunted down by fanboys for attacking a protected species (Abblet).
Nathan Ablett -- Crap pre-season, 2 good games, 2 poor games. He must perform this week.
Tonycam*
1 May 2007, 20:54
We all have our favourite players and I know it gets extremely hard to can them or hear them get canned. but the fact is everyones head is on the chopping block at the moment , one bad game and everyone will dive on you now. This week is going to be interesting for so many cats , Nathan , Johnson , Enright, Kelly , Joel and many more
Heads will roll
The sad part is they are all going to be judged by 2006 and there 2007 season under Thompson , and there will be most likely big names axed at the end of the year because of it. Its going to be a shame to see how some of them would have performed under someone new.
Once again, this sticks it up all those people who were doubting his worth to the team some weeks back..
DJ was fantastic, yet again. I'd have him in the side before a number of people, particully, Hunt.
Yeah really stuck it up us on Sunday:rolleyes: , Brent Harvey absolutely toyed with this dud on Sunday, so much that it cost us the game. As i've said many times before DJ just can't go with any player with footy smarts, but when will Bomber wake up to this?
I've had a gutful of Bomber playing favourites.
Yeah really stuck it up us on Sunday:rolleyes: , Brent Harvey absolutely toyed with this dud on Sunday, so much that it cost us the game. As i've said many times before DJ just can't go with any player with footy smarts, but when will Bomber wake up to this?
I've had a gutful of Bomber playing favourites.
DJ is no more effective than Hunt as a defender. Hunt is the best kick in our team, disposal is one of our major problems.... WTF??
DJ is no more effective than Hunt as a defender. Hunt is the best kick in our team, disposal is one of our major problems.... WTF??
DJ's a lot worse than Hunt.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 09:42
This thread should be held up as an example of the fickle nature of Geelong supporters. Starts out praising a player, ends up bagging him. Classic.
FWIW, DJ has done some good jobs in the past (just two weeks ago in fact). He was pus on the weekend. That doesn't mean it's the end of him.
thats bull, the guy has never been up to it. im still waiting for when we play collingwood and DJ for the umpteempth time doesnt stop him getting onto his left foot.
catempire
2 May 2007, 10:13
thats bull, the guy has never been up to it. im still waiting for when we play collingwood and DJ for the umpteempth time doesnt stop him getting onto his left foot.
I'm not surprised that you can't see the benefit he brings to the team.
It's Cameron Ling all over again.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 11:18
I'm not surprised that you can't see the benefit he brings to the team.
It's Cameron Ling all over again.
whats cameron ling got to do with this?
i do appreciate johnson's hardness and not shirking a contest but he gets beaten too easy and too often.
what perceived benefits apart from being a good clubman and giving his all does johnson bring?
whats cameron ling got to do with this?
i do appreciate johnson's hardness and not shirking a contest but he gets beaten too easy and too often.
what perceived benefits apart from being a good clubman and giving his all does johnson bring?
Actually Johnson is rarely beaten. Conceeded 14 goals last year (5 on Mark Williams in round 22). Obviously Johnson is not going to do well on Williams, if you take that game out he conceeded just over 1/2 a goal a game and 15 possesions. That is not a man that is "often beaten"
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 11:46
Actually Johnson is rarely beaten. Conceeded 14 goals last year (5 on Mark Williams in round 22). Obviously Johnson is not going to do well on Williams, if you take that game out he conceeded just over 1/2 a goal a game and 15 possesions. That is not a man that is "often beaten"
3 goals in 20 minutes on sunday...thats nearly 1/3 of his "conceded" goals from last year.
he probably does better in run with roles through the midfield than playing on the last line of defence. the good half forwards/pockets will tear him up.
he is no better or worse than hunt, yet josh gets towelled in this forum.
catempire
2 May 2007, 11:48
whats cameron ling got to do with this?
The common theme is you not adequately appreciating either of them.
what perceived benefits apart from being a good clubman and giving his all does johnson bring?
See DanA's post.
And DanA, for those who have said DJ is "worse" than Hunt, remind us how many goals Hunt had kicked on him last year.
Actually Johnson is rarely beaten. Conceeded 14 goals last year (5 on Mark Williams in round 22). Obviously Johnson is not going to do well on Williams, if you take that game out he conceeded just over 1/2 a goal a game and 15 possesions. That is not a man that is "often beaten"
Afraid I'm still shuddering from his game on Didak last year. Didak leading him to the ball and DJ looking around for someone else to blame.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 11:54
The common theme is you not adequately appreciating either of them.
i dont think ling should be playing in the midfield, in run with roles or gathering possesions. if thompson goes at years end i would be very surprised if our new coach sticks with ling anywhere near the midfield.
i appreciated what ling did on sunday, playing probably where he should be playing.
catempire
2 May 2007, 12:14
i dont think ling should be playing in the midfield, in run with roles or gathering possesions. if thompson goes at years end i would be very surprised if our new coach sticks with ling anywhere near the midfield.
i appreciated what ling did on sunday, playing probably where he should be playing.
It's a matter of getting the right matchup for him. He blanketed Stevens and did well against Johnstone and Mitchell.
Wells was not a good matchup for him. Adam Simpson would have been.
When there's no good matchup he should be played elsewhere.
Afraid I'm still shuddering from his game on Didak last year. Didak leading him to the ball and DJ looking around for someone else to blame.
Probably his two worst games every were against Collingwood (geez I hate Didak) & on the weekend. Johnson should have been on Wells on the wing he is the obvious choice if Wells is going to be tagged.
For what it is worth I think Hunt is a good player and should come back in for Corey Enright. In fact I think there should be wholesale changes with;
Tenace, S.J, Hunt & Ottens to come in
and
Enright, Kelly, Jnr (rested) & King out.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 13:16
It's a matter of getting the right matchup for him. He blanketed Stevens and did well against Johnstone and Mitchell.
Wells was not a good matchup for him. Adam Simpson would have been.
When there's no good matchup he should be played elsewhere.
well, if you are happy with our midfield basically playing 2 against 3 at stoppages/clearances because one guy is more concerned about stopping his player than winning the ball then you are happy that we will continually struggle in that area.
stevens is a possession accumulator, he could have got 50 possessions and been as equally dangerous as having 10 possessions.
johnstone more than broke even, most of melbourne's forward thrusts were setup by him.
and he played well against mitchell, but to what detriment. we got still got smashed at stoppages and clearances.
catempire
2 May 2007, 13:24
well, if you are happy with our midfield basically playing 2 against 3 at stoppages/clearances because one guy is more concerned about stopping his player than winning the ball then you are happy that we will continually struggle in that area.
stevens is a possession accumulator, he could have got 50 possessions and been as equally dangerous as having 10 possessions.
johnstone more than broke even, most of melbourne's forward thrusts were setup by him.
and he played well against mitchell, but to what detriment. we got still got smashed at stoppages and clearances.
Tagging is a necessary part of the game.
You weigh up what you lose by not having an attacking midfielder with what you gain by stopping one of theirs.
If the benefits outweight the detriments then you do it. There is a place for it in certain matches against certain oppositions.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 14:40
Tagging is a necessary part of the game.
You weigh up what you lose by not having an attacking midfielder with what you gain by stopping one of theirs.
If the benefits outweight the detriments then you do it. There is a place for it in certain matches against certain oppositions.
tagging is only necessary if your more worried about your opponents ability than having faith in your own teams ability.
most people would think that our midfield is better than the roos midfield yet the roos werent tagging our midfielders. we tag theirs.
catempire
2 May 2007, 15:02
tagging is only necessary if your more worried about your opponents ability than having faith in your own teams ability.
most people would think that our midfield is better than the roos midfield yet the roos werent tagging our midfielders. we tag theirs.
Most people would be wrong then.
Wells, Harvey, Grant, Simpson and Harris versus Bartel, Ling, the Coreys, Selwood and Prismall. On form and reputation North would have us there.
The North midfielders were in great form. We had to give them due respect. It's just a shame our coaches couldn't get the tags and the matchups right.
tagging is only necessary if your more worried about your opponents ability than having faith in your own teams ability.
most people would think that our midfield is better than the roos midfield yet the roos werent tagging our midfielders. we tag theirs.
There is no way our midfeild is better than Norths at the moment. Every team tags.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 16:10
Most people would be wrong then.
Wells, Harvey, Grant, Simpson and Harris versus Bartel, Ling, the Coreys, Selwood and Prismall. On form and reputation North would have us there.
The North midfielders were in great form. We had to give them due respect. It's just a shame our coaches couldn't get the tags and the matchups right.
wasnt an issue when we beat them by 69 points and nothing really much has changed between the two midfields.
catempire
2 May 2007, 16:28
wasnt an issue when we beat them by 69 points and nothing really much has changed between the two midfields.
Current form Darren. A year ago is of no relevance.
TheTimeCometh
2 May 2007, 16:38
tagging is only necessary if your more worried about your opponents ability than having faith in your own teams ability.
ahem...ce?
catempire
2 May 2007, 17:04
ahem...ce?
I figure while you're around you might as well make yourself useful. Keep him in line, will you?
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 18:06
Current form Darren. A year ago is of no relevance.
current form, not more than two weeks ago quite a few people were lauding our squad (and midfield) after we beat the blues and dees. now they crying for heads, even though the current issues were still prevalent.
historical data is always used, and has some basis. you just cant say "geelong is not playing well" therefore we cant compare.
do you think a company wont comapre their profit over 2 years because one year was abysmal? i think not.
current form, not more than two weeks ago quite a few people were lauding our squad (and midfield) after we beat the blues and dees. now they crying for heads, even though the current issues were still prevalent.
historical data is always used, and has some basis. you just cant say "geelong is not playing well" therefore we cant compare.
do you think a company wont comapre their profit over 2 years because one year was abysmal? i think not.
I seem to remember people "lauding" the run off the half back. I think we were actually beaten in both games at center clerances.
darren forssman
2 May 2007, 18:23
I seem to remember people "lauding" the run off the half back. I think we were actually beaten in both games at center clerances.
who or what are you referring to?
catempire
2 May 2007, 19:09
current form, not more than two weeks ago quite a few people were lauding our squad (and midfield) after we beat the blues and dees. now they crying for heads, even though the current issues were still prevalent.
historical data is always used, and has some basis. you just cant say "geelong is not playing well" therefore we cant compare.
do you think a company wont comapre their profit over 2 years because one year was abysmal? i think not.
I don't know what your point is.
Surely you'd agree that a game one year ago has less to do with "form" than does the past few rounds?
most people would think that our midfield is better than the roos midfield yet the roos werent tagging our midfielders. we tag theirs.
Most people would be wrong. Why? NONE of our midfielders hurt the opposition. Wells, Harvey, Grant can all take the game away from the opposition quickly, especially with running goals. Our mids, even Ablett and Chapman are not harmfull in this way.
Like I've said before.... the only people who rate our mids are Geelong supporters.
who or what are you referring to?
I was refering to your comment where you said people were lauding our midfield. I don't think that is the case. Our midfeild has struggled all year and has been shown up on the two occasions we have come up against sides good at clerances. I think the success of our backline and forwardline has covered the weaknesses in our midfeild in the Melbourne and Carlton games.
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 09:42
ISurely you'd agree that a game one year ago has less to do with "form" than does the past few rounds?
you are only as good as your last game!!!
surely when DanA brought up stats (about DJ's stopper presence) from last year then they should be also dismissed.
anyway, im still shocked, that in your eyes, that i cant have an opinion on DJ because i think ling is overrated and not playing in his correct position.
catempire
3 May 2007, 10:29
you are only as good as your last game!!!
surely when DanA brought up stats (about DJ's stopper presence) from last year then they should be also dismissed.
Hey, you are the one that brought up last years game against the Roos as evidence that our midfield is better. Clearly, on the evidence of the first 5 rounds of this season, it isn't. I don't know of what relevance last year's win has to this.
DanA's stats were brought up in a totally different context in an argument about who was the better stopper - DJ or Hunt. That's a question that spans more time than "who is in better form" and so warrants a look at stats over a longer period of time.
anyway, im still shocked, that in your eyes, that i cant have an opinion on DJ because i think ling is overrated and not playing in his correct position.
Never said anything of the sort.
TheTimeCometh
3 May 2007, 11:52
I'm not surprised that you can't see the benefit he brings to the team.
It's Cameron Ling all over again.
teeny meeny bit of the sort?
catempire
3 May 2007, 12:15
"anything of the sort".....at least something of the sort you'd think.
adequate appreciation?
He suggested that I said he can't have an opinion.
You quoted me. Is that what I wrote?
No, I said I wasn't surprised that he held that opinion.
You're slipping TTC.
TheTimeCometh
3 May 2007, 12:28
The common theme is you not adequately appreciating either of them.
in your opinion. what about in foreskin's?
p.s. a skerrick of the sort?
catempire
3 May 2007, 12:33
Nothing of the sort.
Not a skerrick.
Not a teeny meeny bit.
He gave his opinion (which he is entitled to do) and I said I'm not surprised that he held that opinion (which I am entitled to do).
TheTimeCometh
3 May 2007, 12:36
the point, possibly, is that we have lost the last couple with direct links to getting "smashed" at the clearances even tho' important players were stopped from 'impacting' by the likes of ling. maybe foreskin is getting at being more proactive and having another ball-winner - not tagger/stopper - coz we end up getting done over anyway.
every game i've seen, at stoppages we are always one man down coz one player is not concerned with getting the ball at all.
TheTimeCometh
3 May 2007, 12:39
you are amusing ce - ducking, weaving, arching the back - you'd do SJ proud.
cat in sydney
3 May 2007, 12:44
To: catempire, TTC, and martyk.
TAKE YOUR LITTLE SISSY SPAT ELSEWHERE!!
We know you've all got something against one another, so why not create an entirely separate thread that you can do it all you want?
At the moment, you have your little fight going on in three different threads, dominating post space meaning that others have to read it, wasting their time!
As I said, go and start the "Official catempire v martyk and TTC" thread. It will give everyone a well-deserved break.
To: catempire, TTC, and martyk.
TAKE YOUR LITTLE SISSY SPAT ELSEWHERE!!
We know you've all got something against one another, so why not create an entirely separate thread that you can do it all you want?
At the moment, you have your little fight going on in three different threads, dominating post space meaning that others have to read it, wasting their time!
As I said, go and start the "Official catempire v martyk and TTC" thread. It will give everyone a well-deserved break.
Where's this 3rd thread you speak of??? I want in!!!
catempire
3 May 2007, 12:59
To: catempire, TTC, and martyk.
TAKE YOUR LITTLE SISSY SPAT ELSEWHERE!!
We know you've all got something against one another, so why not create an entirely separate thread that you can do it all you want?
At the moment, you have your little fight going on in three different threads, dominating post space meaning that others have to read it, wasting their time!
As I said, go and start the "Official catempire v martyk and TTC" thread. It will give everyone a well-deserved break.
I've got nothing against martyk and TTC.
I only comment on the substance of their posts.
Feel free to place us on your ignore list.
I've got nothing against martyk and TTC.
I only comment on the substance of their posts.
Feel free to place us on your ignore list.
We could all agree with one another and pat each other on the back, where is the fun in that? How does that promote discussion? It doesn't..
Save it for your church group on Sunday Cat in Sydney...
cat in sydney
3 May 2007, 13:21
We could all agree with one another and pat each other on the back, where is the fun in that? How does that promote discussion? It doesn't..
Save it for your church group on Sunday Cat in Sydney...
i don't want you to all agree with each other. i like discussions and difference of opinion, but there have just been several posts that have been argumentative without discussing the actual topic.
And I don't want to put you on my ignore list, because each of you guys do say worthwhile things on the whole (when you actually talk about footy rather than throwing primary school insults at each other).
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 14:27
To: catempire, TTC, and martyk.
TAKE YOUR LITTLE SISSY SPAT ELSEWHERE!!
We know you've all got something against one another, so why not create an entirely separate thread that you can do it all you want?
At the moment, you have your little fight going on in three different threads, dominating post space meaning that others have to read it, wasting their time!
As I said, go and start the "Official catempire v martyk and TTC" thread. It will give everyone a well-deserved break.
i am always left out of everything
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 14:30
the point, possibly, is that we have lost the last couple with direct links to getting "smashed" at the clearances even tho' important players were stopped from 'impacting' by the likes of ling. maybe foreskin is getting at being more proactive and having another ball-winner - not tagger/stopper - coz we end up getting done over anyway.
every game i've seen, at stoppages we are always one man down coz one player is not concerned with getting the ball at all.
agreed.
i have never said drop ling from the 22, just that maybe we should play attacking football for once and see how that pans out.
sarah.13
3 May 2007, 14:32
i am always left out of everything
I want to joust also!
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 14:43
DanA's stats were brought up in a totally different context in an argument about who was the better stopper - DJ or Hunt. That's a question that spans more time than "who is in better form" and so warrants a look at stats over a longer period of time.
the stats (hard to believe that such a small amount was kicked against him especially when didak would have 3-4 on him) are still a matter of form though arent they?
should really be comparing their respective seasons thus far and not last years form!!!
i was actually nearly convinced through all the crap on this forum that hunt was a big part of the defensive struggles. watching the game on sunday there were still the same fumbles, ill directed kicks and handballs in defense.
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 14:44
I want to joust also!
en guard!!!
catempire
3 May 2007, 14:48
the stats (hard to believe that such a small amount was kicked against him especially when didak would have 3-4 on him) are still a matter of form though arent they?
should really be comparing their respective seasons thus far and not last years form!!!
i was actually nearly convinced through all the crap on this forum that hunt was a big part of the defensive struggles. watching the game on sunday there were still the same fumbles, ill directed kicks and handballs in defense.
dazza,
Firstly, they're Champion Data stats (AFAIK), so if you have an issue with them take it up with them.
Again, the argument wasn't about the "form" of DJ and Hunt - it was about who was "worse".
All I'm saying is that recent games have more to do with form than do games played a year ago. Surely you can't disagree with this.
In terms of who is "better" or who is "worse", that's a more general question than form and so it warrants a broader assessment, including last year.
Your last point is salient. If Hunt was dropped for those things then if all else was equal there would be other defenders in the gun this week. I'm betting that once again it will be a case of different standards applied to different players in this team.
darren forssman
3 May 2007, 14:58
dazza,
Firstly, they're Champion Data stats (AFAIK), so if you have an issue with them take it up with them.
Again, the argument wasn't about the "form" of DJ and Hunt - it was about who was "worse".
All I'm saying is that recent games have more to do with form than do games played a year ago. Surely you can't disagree with this.
In terms of who is "better" or who is "worse", that's a more general question than form and so it warrants a broader assessment, including last year.
Your last point is salient. If Hunt was dropped for those things then if all else was equal there would be other defenders in the gun this week. I'm betting that once again it will be a case of different standards applied to different players in this team.
i dont think i said either was worse than the other.
DJ is solid but nothing else, good forwards cut him up as much as they would any of our other small defenders. that i believe is the deeper issue, a lack of quality of a small defender.
you cant say that bomber has different rules for different players, that would surely cause unease among the playing group.
catempire
3 May 2007, 15:08
i dont think i said either was worse than the other.
I know you didn't. Others did.
you cant say that bomber has different rules for different players, that would surely cause unease among the playing group.
Surely you jest! :eek:
TheTimeCometh
4 May 2007, 13:02
foreskin, a ling questioner cannot possibly have a valid opinion on DJ - you surely paint him with the same brush do you not?
chapmanmagic35
4 May 2007, 13:16
i dont think i said either was worse than the other.
DJ is solid but nothing else, good forwards cut him up as much as they would any of our other small defenders. that i believe is the deeper issue, a lack of quality of a small defender.
you cant say that bomber has different rules for different players, that would surely cause unease among the playing group.
There are different rules for different players - and different tolerance level for that matter. It happens at every club.
Had Ben Cousins not been the Brownlow Medallist and numerous winner of club champions, there is little doubt he would have been given his marching orders by now.
catempire
4 May 2007, 13:35
a ling questioner cannot possibly have a valid opinion on DJ
Why's that TTC?
darren forssman
4 May 2007, 13:48
Why's that TTC?
i guess because you questioned my opinion on DJ due to my opinion on ling.
catempire
4 May 2007, 14:48
i guess because you questioned my opinion on DJ due to my opinion on ling.
Nope. Said I wasn't surprised that you held that opinion.
darren forssman
4 May 2007, 15:07
Nope. Said I wasn't surprised that you held that opinion.
yeah, but the implication that your not surprised that i held that opinion on DJ coz of my opinion on Ling infers that my opinion on DJ is not to be taken seriously.
catempire
4 May 2007, 15:18
yeah, but the implication that your not surprised that i held that opinion on DJ coz of my opinion on Ling infers that my opinion on DJ is not to be taken seriously.
You're reading too much into it.
I was merely pointing out that this wasn't the first occasion that you had failed to recognise the good aspects that a player brings to the team. It wasn't supposed to belittle your opinion. It was supposed to challenge it.
TheTimeCometh
4 May 2007, 18:42
Nope. Said I wasn't surprised that you held that opinion.
so DJ and Ling have similar strengths and weaknesses? i still don't get the connection to Ling over any other players that come under (particular) scrutiny from foreskin or anyone else for that matter.
you "failed to reconise" foreskin - hahahaha!!!! not that you should feel ashamed, just don't do it again - okay?
catempire
4 May 2007, 19:30
so DJ and Ling have similar strengths and weaknesses? i still don't get the connection to Ling over any other players that come under (particular) scrutiny from foreskin or anyone else for that matter.
you "failed to reconise" foreskin - hahahaha!!!! not that you should feel ashamed, just don't do it again - okay?
:confused:
so DJ and Ling have similar strengths and weaknesses? i still don't get the connection to Ling over any other players that come under (particular) scrutiny from foreskin or anyone else for that matter.
you "failed to reconise" foreskin - hahahaha!!!! not that you should feel ashamed, just don't do it again - okay?
Do you think it could be that they are both taggers?
TheTimeCometh
5 May 2007, 14:41
Do you think it could be that they are both taggers?
could be. dunno - ask ce.
catempire
5 May 2007, 14:43
Do you think it could be that they are both taggers?
could be. dunno - ask ce.
I was merely pointing out that this wasn't the first occasion that you had failed to recognise the good aspects that a player brings to the team. It wasn't supposed to belittle your opinion. It was supposed to challenge it.
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