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Sam the RAMA fan
16 Apr 2007, 17:08
What is going on with Camporeale?
Can someone please give me an update...
When do we expect to see him playing his first game in 07?
Guys read the posts, club website Bendigo reports, Newspaper etc etc.
Half the questions asked here can all be found with just a little reading and have been asked too many times already
Poz_Utd_V.2
16 Apr 2007, 17:13
What is going on with Camporeale?
Can someone please give me an update...
When do we expect to see him playing his first game in 07?
Played for Bendigo on the weekend expect to see him soon
he'll be playing for essendon within a month i reckon
Dont people read the match reports that get put up here from the Bendigo games or do we just waste our time putting them up :rolleyes:
Dont people read the match reports that get put up here from the Bendigo games or do we just waste our time putting them up :rolleyes:
No , i and others read them and appreciate them.
Unfortunatly there are many people in this world that are...
1:Lazy
2:Want to be spoonfed
DeeKayLillee
17 Apr 2007, 14:56
he'll be playing for essendon within a month i reckon
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
Say no to DeeKayLillee on BigFooty 2007 :p
kelvin_sheedy
17 Apr 2007, 15:30
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
SAY NO TO DeeKayLillee 2007 :thumbsd:
DeeKayLillee
17 Apr 2007, 16:22
ha ha ha ha ha
crunch decision for you would-be-essendon coaches then........
does he get in your best 22 for 2007 ??
in 2008 and beyond ????
he doesn't make my preferred top 30 ATM
I'd like more games for our kids instead of a washed up 'kickchaser' who is going to offer EFC nothing beyond this season !!!!
Boris_Bewick
17 Apr 2007, 16:24
No , i and others read them and appreciate them.
Unfortunatly there are many people in this world that are...
1:Lazy
2:Want to be spoonfed
Settle down Merv it was a simple question with a sentence or two answer, he didn't want you to write a report about it.
Some people don't spend as much time as people on Bigfooty as others, and would not search high and low for an answer, when someone could explain it in five minutes.
I read and very much appreciate the Bendigo reports too, but they are long and I can see why some would not have the time to read them.
ha ha ha ha ha
crunch decision for you would-be-essendon coaches then........
does he get in your best 22 for 2007 ??
in 2008 and beyond ????
he doesn't make my preferred top 30 ATM
I'd like more games for our kids instead of a washed up 'kickchaser' who is going to offer EFC nothing beyond this season !!!!
Spot on DK.
I was for his acquisiton some 18 months ago but now find myself completely against it. We were in the process of delisitng some Haynes, Alvey and Cupido and thought he could provide a little bit for a couple of years until we get some quality kids.
Right now im more interested in seeing if Dyson, Winderlich, Dempsey and co can capitalise on their unquestionable ability and be 10 year players for the club. I see in no value in picking Campo what so ever.
We have far too many players around his age and experience fighting for too few a spots. JJ, Pev, Heff, Campo, MJ, Bolton. I would like only the Johnsons to be our list next season....
Gotta say I wouldn't be to fussed on Campo coming back in, especially with JJ to come in also. I was for his acquisition also and still stand by it, but Winderlich, Lovett, Watson an co are a lot more consistent and I think we have a good balance of speed/ball winning and experience/youth
it is round 4 and we are already talking about playing the kids. we want to make the finals don't we???
we had 11 players playing who had played just 50 games or less on saturday. maybe that was the reason for the fade out.........
if campo is fit we need his skills and experience in the side.
DeeKayLillee
17 Apr 2007, 16:57
it is round 4 and we are already talking about playing the kids. we want to make the finals don't we???
we had 11 players playing who had played just 50 games or less on saturday. maybe that was the reason for the fade out.........
if campo is fit we need his skills and experience in the side.
hulld = the man with all the answers.......
how does not rating CAMPO as highly as you do equate to me thinking that we should throw away the season and play kids ????
I am simply stating that OUR kids are equal to CAMPO and should now be placed well ahead of him at the selection table..........
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
Pie_squasher
17 Apr 2007, 16:58
He was sub-standard on for Bendigo on the weekend....better off giving young player chance to develop into long term prospect. Has seen his best days
i thought that he was pretty good on the weekend.
our youngsters have plenty of time to develop. campo is ready to play senior footy and he should at least be given the chance to prove that he is still capable of playing good footy
chelsworthgale
17 Apr 2007, 17:08
cut your losses... delist him now and promote a rookie... would be a costly exercise but you would probably get more heart and hard balls gets from a raw 1st year rookie than a washed up reject!
kelvin_sheedy
17 Apr 2007, 17:14
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
Hey DeeKeadLillee,
Which kids have shown more than Campo apart from Winderlich?
Where were they last year when Campo was out?
I'm not fussed either way if he plays or not. What I care about is the best players being picked.
If Campo is playing the better footy then he should be picked. I hope alot of these kids pass him by this year because it will mean we are progressing very well.
I still believe though that his experience and kicking skills will be valuable throughout the year as it is/was our major downfall last year.
Get over your personnel bias and hatred and support ALL of our players.
cut your losses... delist him now and promote a rookie... would be a costly exercise but you would probably get more heart and hard balls gets from a raw 1st year rookie than a washed up reject!
there is no point playing a rookie if he isn't up to it
chelsworthgale
17 Apr 2007, 17:23
there is no point playing a rookie if he isn't up to it
of course, totally agree but get 10-15 games into a youngster to teach him a thing or two and think towards the future. You give 10-15 games to an overpaid reject who will end his career if not at the end of this year the end of next and you waste a good opportunity to blood some youth.
of course, totally agree but get 10-15 games into a youngster to teach him a thing or two and think towards the future. You give 10-15 games to an overpaid reject who will end his career if not at the end of this year the end of next and you waste a good opportunity to blood some youth.
If he's not up to it you could do more harm than good, look at Kepler Bradley and Josh Kennedy, could both have done with more time in the VFL. You play kids when they are ready or you could go backwards.
chelsworthgale
17 Apr 2007, 17:32
If he's not up to it you could do more harm than good, look at Kepler Bradley and Josh Kennedy, could both have done with more time in the VFL. You play kids when they are ready or you could go backwards.
kennedy is being starved of good ball because of fevola... there is also a confidence issue with him, not him but the boys using him as an alternative to fev. The step between AFL and VFL is huge, i know it is a poorish example because he is going to be a star (all signs are looking good) but take Bryce Gibbs. What his first NAB cup game and he looked lost. Did some good things, but only a hand full. But the last couple of weeks playing on a half backline he has been able to pick up the pace and learn the game well. The half back flank is possibly the easiest position to play (if there is one) and playing a young bloke there they are able to learn the game very well.
IMO, he played quite well for essendon on the weekend, leave Dyson in the side. Let him run off the half back and I reckon you will end up with another mcviegh style player from him!... just put him in the side and leave him there! oh and give him game time!
DeeKayLillee
17 Apr 2007, 17:34
Hey DeeKeadLillee,
Which kids have shown more than Campo apart from Winderlich?
Where were they last year when Campo was out?
I'm not fussed either way if he plays or not. What I care about is the best players being picked.
If Campo is playing the better footy then he should be picked. I hope alot of these kids pass him by this year because it will mean we are progressing very well.
I still believe though that his experience and kicking skills will be valuable throughout the year as it is/was our major downfall last year.
Get over your personnel bias and hatred and support ALL of our players.
jetta,davey,watson,monfries,stanton,slattery,dyson,nash, lonergan,dempsey, houli (in the preseason)
should I keep going kelvin ??????
kennedy is being starved of good ball because of fevola... there is also a confidence issue with him, not him but the boys using him as an alternative to fev. The step between AFL and VFL is huge, i know it is a poorish example because he is going to be a star (all signs are looking good) but take Bryce Gibbs. What his first NAB cup game and he looked lost. Did some good things, but only a hand full. But the last couple of weeks playing on a half backline he has been able to pick up the pace and learn the game well. The half back flank is possibly the easiest position to play (if there is one) and playing a young bloke there they are able to learn the game very well.
IMO, he played quite well for essendon on the weekend, leave Dyson in the side. Let him run off the half back and I reckon you will end up with another mcviegh style player from him!... just put him in the side and leave him there! oh and give him game time!
Not bagging Kennedy, he should be good in the future, but he too could have benefited from playing a little more in the VFL over the last 18 months, could have helped with the confidence aspect you alluded to. Kepler is the same, could easily have benifited with more time in the VFL, unfortunatley like Carlton with Kennedy, we really had no alternative, but I believe by playing them both too early have set them back a little and hindered their growth, it's easier said than done to throw a rookie in for 10-15 games and expect them to be better, Gibbs on the other hand, seems ready, some would be, some wouldn't be.
cut your losses... delist him now and promote a rookie... would be a costly exercise but you would probably get more heart and hard balls gets from a raw 1st year rookie than a washed up reject!
Thank you for your concern and advice.
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ha ha ha ha ha
crunch decision for you would-be-essendon coaches then........
does he get in your best 22 for 2007 ??
in 2008 and beyond ????
he doesn't make my preferred top 30 ATM
I'd like more games for our kids instead of a washed up 'kickchaser' who is going to offer EFC nothing beyond this season !!!!
He not in my best 22 but i dont hate the guy. Have seen how much work he has put in with a few of our young blokes and he is pretty well repsected around the club. Even if he doesnt play another game he will have done something for us. I agree we need the kids playing this year. There are two or maybe three spots in the side for Pev, JJ,Heff and Campo so for Campo to get a run in my best 22 one of the previous mentioned need to be out. Should be a minimum two, possibly three first year blokes playing every week.
Expect to see Hislop very soon ;)
cut your losses... delist him now and promote a rookie... would be a costly exercise but you would probably get more heart and hard balls gets from a raw 1st year rookie than a washed up reject!
Has done some good work with our young blokes behind the scenes. Doesnt look like we will get much out of him on the field for our two years but he has played some part in the development of our young mids.
IMO, he played quite well for essendon on the weekend, leave Dyson in the side. Let him run off the half back and I reckon you will end up with another mcviegh style player from him!... just put him in the side and leave him there! oh and give him game time!
we aren't disputing whether or not dyson should be in the side. i am a fan of his and i would love to see him play for the remainder of the season in the ones.
. I agree we need the kids playing this year. There are two or maybe three spots in the side for Pev, JJ,Heff and Campo so for Campo to get a run in my best 22 one of the previous mentioned need to be out. Should be a minimum two, possibly three first year blokes playing every week.
i agree. if we had everybody available i would have just jj and campo playing out of these four guys. that's not to say that pev and heff don't try their guts out
.
Expect to see Hislop very soon ;)
i'll take it you have heard some whispers ant???
RED AND BLACK SOLDIER
17 Apr 2007, 21:11
Thank you for your concern and advice.
It has been onforwarded to the appropriate department
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haha, nice one:thumbsu:
donsman4eva
17 Apr 2007, 21:21
jetta,davey,watson,monfries,stanton,slattery,dyson,nash, lonergan,dempsey, houli (in the preseason)
should I keep going kelvin ??????
Jetta: looks out of sorts, drop hin to VFL for confidence
Davey:Lacks silky disposal of Campo
Watson: looks very slow and indecisive
Monfries: Not in great form
Slattery: Different type of player to Campo, can't compare
Dyson: Fringe player
The rest: Have shown very little glimpses at league level, if any.
My point is everyone has downsides. You can't just be biased against one player because you don't like him. I'd rather see the selectors stick with youth, but in reality, an in-form Campo is in our best 22. He is only going to find form playing AFL, not VFL. Give him a go for 3-4 weeks. If he hasn't found anything, then drop him back.
i'll take it you have heard some whispers ant???
No selection whispers but whispers around about how impressed they where with his game on Sunday.
My point is everyone has downsides. You can't just be biased against one player because you don't like him. I'd rather see the selectors stick with youth, but in reality, an in-form Campo is in our best 22. He is only going to find form playing AFL, not VFL. Give him a go for 3-4 weeks. If he hasn't found anything, then drop him back.
exactly
we having nothing to lose by giving campo a few games. the best out come is that he sticks it up DeeKayLillee and he plays well.
the worst that can happen is that he gives some guidance to our youngsters and he ends up playing for bendigo
No selection whispers but whispers around about how impressed they where with his game on Sunday.
so who do you think would get a game first: tommy or campo????
exactly
so who do you think would get a game first: tommy or campo????
Personally i would go Hislop. But in saying that team selection is a whole different area . Lots of things that i dont agree with or see coming happen on the selection table.
if tommy doesn't get a game this week i can see sheeds debuting him on anzac day
To be truthful, it wouldnt bother me if I never see him play a senior game for us again. Im happy with us putting time into the kids.
we don't want to play too many kids though. otherwise we will be inconsistent and suffer from more second half fadeouts
kelvin_sheedy
17 Apr 2007, 22:06
jetta,davey,watson,monfries,stanton,slattery,dyson,nash, lonergan,dempsey, houli (in the preseason)
should I keep going kelvin ??????
What have half these guys done so far?
The likes of Dyson, Lonergan, Houli, Dempsey, Jetta aren't actually demanding a spot in the 22.
I'm not fussed if he plays or not. It just bad form when we turn on our own players. Constructive criticism is the way to go:thumbsu:
we don't want to play too many kids though. otherwise we will be inconsistent and suffer from more second half fadeouts
Well, we're playing 2 right now...Id much rather see them running around, than Campo take their spot in our 22.
go team
17 Apr 2007, 22:56
cut your losses... delist him now and promote a rookie... would be a costly exercise but you would probably get more heart and hard balls gets from a raw 1st year rookie than a washed up reject!
advice from a carlton fan? weren't they the ones that wanted to trade fev a few years back?
exactly
we having nothing to lose by giving campo a few games. the best out come is that he sticks it up DeeKayLillee and he plays well.
the worst that can happen is that he gives some guidance to our youngsters and he ends up playing for bendigo
so who do you think would get a game first: tommy or campo????
Guidance? From the bench...Who would you drop for Campo and if you say Pev, you're an idiot.
it is round 4 and we are already talking about playing the kids. we want to make the finals don't we???
we had 11 players playing who had played just 50 games or less on saturday. maybe that was the reason for the fade out.........
if campo is fit we need his skills and experience in the side.
Most sides are playing their kids this time of year...rewarding them for exceptional pre seasons and showcasing their talent to measure where they're at. We faded out because we got lazy, had nothing to do with the kids. Davey still tackled, Jetta still ran when given the game time. These kids we've drafted have pace, which is what we lacked last season You were saying something about making finals now?? Please continue.
I think the Bombers would be crazy to leave a young guy out for Campo. The midfield you are building is quick and exciting, I cant see how Camporat (forgive me guys, still pissed off about him leaving) is going to improve the side you are building. Anyway they are my thoughts.
Go Blues
DeeKayLillee
18 Apr 2007, 14:12
What have half these guys done so far?
The likes of Dyson, Lonergan, Houli, Dempsey, Jetta aren't actually demanding a spot in the 22.
I'm not fussed if he plays or not. It just bad form when we turn on our own players. Constructive criticism is the way to go:thumbsu:
what the hell has CAMPO done for EFC ????
Kickchased in his 12 games last year, undisciplined talking back to the umpires, lurking dog hack I tell you......
SAY NO TO CAMPO 2007
Just play the kids is all I ask - when it is a line ball selection decision I just want Sheeds to play the kids instead of CAMPO - he is finished and will only hinder player development
my opinion will not change
Strike Swiftly
19 Apr 2007, 14:10
I agree. Say no to Campo.
He need to take a look at ourselves seriously. we are not premiership contenders this year. we need to blood as many players as we can. find out who is there or thereabouts, and aim for next year or the year after. no point playing old hacks like campo who prevent new blood coming into the side. we dont need top up players at this point in time. and for those who might be thinking, im anti tanking.
I agree. Say no to Campo.
He need to take a look at ourselves seriously. we are not premiership contenders this year. we need to blood as many players as we can. find out who is there or thereabouts, and aim for next year or the year after. no point playing old hacks like campo who prevent new blood coming into the side. we dont need top up players at this point in time. and for those who might be thinking, im anti tanking.
so with that theory should we not play hirdy as well????
the club is hoping for a top 4 finish and to do that we have to play our best side everyweek.
it doesn't matter how old campo is, if he is in form he should be played.
we don't want to rush any of the kids before they are ready. we have plenty of time to get game time into the likes of houli, lonergan, hislop, gumby and reimers
so with that theory should we not play hirdy as well????
the club is hoping for a top 4 finish and to do that we have to play our best side everyweek.
it doesn't matter how old campo is, if he is in form he should be played.
we don't want to rush any of the kids before they are ready. we have plenty of time to get game time into the likes of houli, lonergan, hislop, gumby and reimers
Can you substantiate anything that he is in form?
Strike Swiftly
19 Apr 2007, 22:43
so with that theory should we not play hirdy as well????
the club is hoping for a top 4 finish and to do that we have to play our best side everyweek.
it doesn't matter how old campo is, if he is in form he should be played.
we don't want to rush any of the kids before they are ready. we have plenty of time to get game time into the likes of houli, lonergan, hislop, gumby and reimers
You call Hird a hack?? what kind of football follower are you?