View Full Version : Griffen Vs Franklin
Deledio2Tambling
19 Apr 2007, 14:19
OK, so we have had the myriad of Bling V Buddy threads, but what about this one? The Doggies had Pick 3 so could have had Buddy to shore up their Key Forward stocks, but they chose a wingman/half-back flanker. Griffen is 'supposedly' a gun, yet has shown us nothing in this his 'Brownlow Year'. What do ya'll think? Who would you rather?
RECORDS!
19 Apr 2007, 14:22
Easy, Franklin is a gun, Griffen is the most over rated youngster in the game. Mmmmmm Buddy.
Buddy. Would be the most sought after 20 yr old if he was out of contract. No doubt in my mind.
I don't get the Griffen hype. Solid player but nothing brilliant yet.
benny_furs
19 Apr 2007, 17:22
I don't get the Griffen hype. Solid player but nothing brilliant yet.
Same here, in 5 years he'll be a solid good player but is nothing overly special.
I can't believe he was in Sheahan's top 50 players :thumbsd:
CyberKev
19 Apr 2007, 18:12
Griffen easily atm.
On the strength of what?
Buddy. Would be the most sought after 20 yr old if he was out of contract. No doubt in my mind.
I don't get the Griffen hype. Solid player but nothing brilliant yet.
Agree.
He was having a ripping pre season until he was injured. Hopefully next year he can take his football to another level. Remember, he is only 20, he still has a lot more development.
But at this stage Franklin would be ahead, even though i voted for Griff.
Would i want Franklin over Griff. No.
Griffen easily atm.
Surely you jest.
always right
19 Apr 2007, 18:48
Griffen will be a gun...........but people are justifiably excited by a big bloke who can run and kick goals. If you were asked before you saw either one of them play, if you would prefer a gun midfielder with strength and pace, or a power forward who has pace and goal sense, you'd go the second option every time.
Hawkie_McHawkHawk
19 Apr 2007, 20:44
Griffen will be a gun...........but people are justifiably excited by a big bloke who can run and kick goals. If you were asked before you saw either one of them play, if you would prefer a gun midfielder with strength and pace, or a power forward who has pace and goal sense, you'd go the second option every time.
What is it about Doggie supporters and theyre lack of shi+ talking? Easiest supporters to get along with.
thumbs up for your honest opinion.
Griffen easily. Buddy is all hype.
Bulldog1954
19 Apr 2007, 21:14
Saying Griff will only be a good solid player in five years is strange and is probably related to some problem with him due to the constant Deledio / Griff arguments. Having said that I'd take Franklin over anyone in the draft, will be the best of them all
always right
19 Apr 2007, 21:50
What is it about Doggie supporters and theyre lack of shi+ talking? Easiest supporters to get along with.
thumbs up for your honest opinion.
Despite my user name, the truth is bulldog supporters like me haven't had enough success to be arrogant. It is my geatest desire for our club and supporters to be despised in the future :D
to be honest it would be nice having buddy running around in our lineup.
Richo83
19 Apr 2007, 22:39
Before we run along to our next assignment we must realize that Griffen has played extremely well in his career so far, and has shown great skill of half back.
Franklin, who knows. People say he can't take a mark but if he keeps kicking goals the way he is I wouldn't care. Franklin reached the 50 goal mark early, IIRC earlier than some players like Riewoldt and Brown (not sure though) and that's skill. If I had to pick one, I would pick Franklin, and the thing is, we could have, he was available to us. :o
But Tambling's getting better.
lol just had to throw that last line in there hey Rich :D
Buddy easily :thumbsu: Theres no doubt in my mind that on performances to date he is thus far, the best of the 04 draft. He's the closest to looking like a consistent game breaker at this point in time. Credit where its due, hes a freak :thumbsu:
Griffen oozes class and will be a superstar, no doubt whatsoever, but i think hes been over-hyped to date.
Having said all that I dont think doggies supporters would swap griffen for franklin and hawks fans vice versa.
Warwick
20 Apr 2007, 00:15
What has Griffen done? Such an over-hyped youngster.
Franklin. And quite easily.
Thewlis Dish
20 Apr 2007, 00:38
Ironic that people are picking Buddy on the reasoning that Griffen is all hype and not enough substance.
Hawthorn could have had both, regardless.
Cheeseman
20 Apr 2007, 00:55
Ironic that people are picking Buddy on the reasoning that Griffen is all hype and not enough substance.
I dont see the irony myself, Think back to the game on Sunday, Buddy won the game for the Hawks, I'd say that's fairly substantial. ;)
Thewlis Dish
20 Apr 2007, 01:26
I dont see the irony myself, Think back to the game on Sunday, Buddy won the game for the Hawks, I'd say that's fairly substantial. ;)
Yet another example of how everything he does is put through a magnifying glass.
Griffen has arguably achieved more than Franklin at AFL level, and is at least on level footing.
Magic17
20 Apr 2007, 01:43
Buddy has at least done something.
Griffen is the most overated footballer in the AFL.
cschreuder61
20 Apr 2007, 11:12
Ironic that people are picking Buddy on the reasoning that Griffen is all hype and not enough substance.
Hawthorn could have had both, regardless.
How can you prove that? Bulldogs may have taken Franklin at 3 over Tambling if we had taken Griffen at 2.
CyberKev
20 Apr 2007, 11:26
Buddy has at least done something.
Griffen is the most overated footballer in the AFL.
???
How come you've voted for Griffen then?
Benno From Berwick
20 Apr 2007, 11:44
OK, so we have had the myriad of Bling V Buddy threads, but what about this one? The Doggies had Pick 3 so could have had Buddy to shore up their Key Forward stocks, but they chose a wingman/half-back flanker. Griffen is 'supposedly' a gun, yet has shown us nothing in this his 'Brownlow Year'. What do ya'll think? Who would you rather?
Mate, typical Richmond crap. Have a look inwardly before you start bagging our draft selelctions.
Magic17
20 Apr 2007, 11:49
???
How come you've voted for Griffen then?
Because I hate both the overated suckers.:D
benny_furs
20 Apr 2007, 11:55
Mate, typical Richmond crap. Have a look inwardly before you start bagging our draft selelctions.
How about we both bag Hawthorn's selections together? :D
Roughead you dud! Buddy you over-hyped fools gold! :p
The_Flying_Egg
20 Apr 2007, 13:35
Griffen has done a lot so far in his career for someone his age. The coaches voted him best young player for a reason, last year he had a good season, whereas Buddy has had a few great games. Buddy has more ability and greater potential though, although the thing inside his noggin is a concern and is the only thing that can stop him from being great
vanders
20 Apr 2007, 15:10
KPP or Midfielder?
KPP for me - Franklin. There are plenty of Griffens out there, but how many Franklins?
Benno From Berwick
20 Apr 2007, 15:52
How about we both bag Hawthorn's selections together? :D
Roughead you dud! Buddy you over-hyped fools gold! :p
I am with you.
It is a stupid poll....
philhawk
20 Apr 2007, 15:55
although the thing inside his noggin is a concern and is the only thing that can stop him from being great
Seriously, where do people get this misconception from?
jasrocks
20 Apr 2007, 16:03
Buddy is better at this stage of their careers. He can kick goals and Griffen for me doesn't go in hard at the football like many other players in that draft do.
Lynch takes a mark
20 Apr 2007, 16:04
Ryan Griffen is the new Drew Banfield
delirious1
20 Apr 2007, 16:05
Seriously, where do people get this misconception from?
Reason he went 5th, not second, but he seems to have sorted himself out and isnt as undisiplined as his junior days:thumbsu:
always right
20 Apr 2007, 16:16
Buddy is better at this stage of their careers. He can kick goals and Griffen for me doesn't go in hard at the football like many other players in that draft do.
I've already acknowledged that most would select Buddy in this poll, but this statement is just bullshIt
always right
20 Apr 2007, 16:55
Ryan Griffen is the new Drew Banfield
Agree......the new Drew Banfield if Drew Banfield had enormous talent, kicked on his right foot, broke tackles with brute strength, and hit targets from 60 meters. Other than that they are identical.
How about we both bag Hawthorn's selections together? :D
Roughead you dud! Buddy you over-hyped fools gold! :p
Tambling you...:o
vandalay industries
21 Apr 2007, 11:32
What has Griffen done? Such an over-hyped youngster.
Franklin. And quite easily.
You don't watch much AFL do you?? Stupid comments from a stupid person!
Both very good picks for their clubs.
I can't remember a single Hawthorn fan who wanted Franklin over Tambling, but in his first season and a half he won everyone over with his tallent. Now no-one can believe that he slipped to us.
Griffen has been great over his first 2 seasons. Started this year in bad form but signs were at the end of last nights game that he was finding his feet again. I would say that he's the best midfielder out of that draft and the Doggies would be stoaked to have him over some of the players that went before he did.
Both teams are happy.
Bulldog1954
21 Apr 2007, 13:48
Seriously, where do people get this misconception from?
Maybe him not being allowed to go ut by himself and having to have a minder has something to do with it :confused: He hardly seems like a brain surgeon
flamethrower
21 Apr 2007, 14:20
Ryan's slow start to the season shows how important a full, injury free preseason is for developing players.
Claude Balls
21 Apr 2007, 14:35
Until I see Franklin take a contested mark, I would rather have Griffen. Beautiful kick, quick, evasive etc. Admittedly he hasn't done all that much yet, though neither has Franklin. Anyway, you can see what he will be doing in 2 or 3 years time and it bodes well for the dogs.