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apollo_creed
28 Apr 2007, 21:14
Saw this in today's HUN.
Hayden
Sangakkara
Ponting (El Capitan)
KP
Jayawardene
Gibbs
Styris
Tait
Bond
McGrath
Murali
Pretty hard to argue with that. :thumbsu:
Got the batting order right too, Tait coming in at number eight is scary. (for the bowlers obviously)
Sangakkara opening is the only thing that I would question.
mulhollanddrive
28 Apr 2007, 21:26
Wouldnt have Tait in there myself... Surprised Richards has some of our players in it, as he's hoping we get rolled so he doesnt look like a tool for writing us off.
Wouldnt have Tait in there myself... Surprised Richards has some of our players in it, as he's hoping we get rolled so he doesnt look like a tool for writing us off.
Sanga hasn't opened all tournament and has been below his best with the bat.
Christ thats a long tail.
Wouldn't like to be 7/200 cause it'd be all out 210 not long after.
GhostofJimJess
29 Apr 2007, 02:52
Smith (opening) and Malinga in for Gibbs and Bond out and it looks more like it to me.
Kallis and Jayawardene are six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Greg Miller= Messiah
29 Apr 2007, 03:03
Good to see Styris in there he had a great world cup. Did great for my dreamteam.
Agree with everything there
Afridi6666
29 Apr 2007, 08:45
i wonder if Viv could squeeze Gilly in over Sanga after his knock today.............hmmm....
King Elvis
29 Apr 2007, 08:56
Where is Clarke, Bracken & Hogg?
bushranger
29 Apr 2007, 10:24
wheres hodge
Ricketts
29 Apr 2007, 14:00
We are the world cup XI. No one else in the world would get close to getting a gig in our side.
mate_67
29 Apr 2007, 14:10
where the hell's hoggy?
chuckers should not be in world 11 sides.
Blues_Man
30 Apr 2007, 10:33
We are the world cup XI. No one else in the world would get close to getting a gig in our side.
Sir Viv ..i present you with the official world cup 11 :
Matthew hayden
Adam (Eric) Gilchrist
Ricky Ponting
Michael Clarke
Andrew Symonds
Michael Hussey
Shane Watson
Bradley Hogg
Nathan Bracken
Shaun Tait
ooh ahh Glen Mcgrath
Just thank your lucky stars Viv, that you never came up against a team like this in your 75 and 79 world cup wins ;)
gaelictiogar
30 Apr 2007, 10:43
You're obviously too young to remember Clive Lloyd's WI team bluesman which more or less seemlessly transferred to Richards. Robertsd, Holding, Marshall, Croft, Garner etc. McGrath would be first change adn tait would be nowhere.
They were the greatest ever cricket side.
Blues_Man
30 Apr 2007, 11:10
You're obviously too young to remember Clive Lloyd's WI team bluesman which more or less seemlessly transferred to Richards. Robertsd, Holding, Marshall, Croft, Garner etc. McGrath would be first change adn tait would be nowhere.
They were the greatest ever cricket side.
I was old enough to watch them play ..this current Australian side would have towelled them up big time. lets not let time put too much of an auror on a cricket team. The current Australian side would have any previous generation well and truly covered .
DeadlyAkkuret
30 Apr 2007, 13:57
You're obviously too young to remember Clive Lloyd's WI team bluesman which more or less seemlessly transferred to Richards. Robertsd, Holding, Marshall, Croft, Garner etc. McGrath would be first change adn tait would be nowhere.
They were the greatest ever cricket side.
:rolleyes:and the Windies were the most graceful side too, right? it's like a 30 year game of Chinese Whispers.
GhostofJimJess
1 May 2007, 04:38
The current Australian side would have any previous generation well and truly covered .
It's never going to be a level playing field. Don Bradman would struggle to get a game on that basis.
It's never going to be a level playing field. Don Bradman would struggle to get a game on that basis.
Look it is now well known that Bradman, Keith Miller, Lindwall and Oldfield were duds ..........
To say that the present Aussie team would blow the Windies of the 70's / 80's away, is something that I expect from a one eyed supporter. Richards, Marshall, Garner and Holding were not too bad, awesome was a word regularly used even by the "staid" ABC.
As you get older you get wiser ......, on second thoughts Tait is in the same league as Marshall, ..............
Both are very good teams.
DeadlyAkkuret
1 May 2007, 18:15
Look it is now well known that Bradman, Keith Miller, Lindwall and Oldfield were duds ..........
To say that the present Aussie team would blow the Windies of the 70's / 80's away, is something that I expect from a one eyed supporter. Richards, Marshall, Garner and Holding were not too bad, awesome was a word regularly used even by the "staid" ABC.
As you get older you get wiser ......, on second thoughts Tait is in the same league as Marshall, ..............
Both are very good teams.
Robert Walls anyone?
GhostofJimJess
1 May 2007, 19:17
Look it is now well known that Bradman, Keith Miller, Lindwall and Oldfield were duds ..........
To say that the present Aussie team would blow the Windies of the 70's / 80's away, is something that I expect from a one eyed supporter. Richards, Marshall, Garner and Holding were not too bad, awesome was a word regularly used even by the "staid" ABC.
As you get older you get wiser ......, on second thoughts Tait is in the same league as Marshall, ..............
Both are very good teams.
Restricted to the relative training practices, injury rehabilitation, cultural idiosyncracies, equipment and technologies afforded to players in the 70's, the current Aussie XI would just as likely get smashed by the West Indians just like their predecessors did.
Ponting is not necessarily a more naturally gifted batsman than Bradman, Harvey or Chappell(s), just the recipient of a more advanced training and development regime. Similarly, Glen McGrath most likely has no more natural bowling talent than Dennis Lillee or Ray Lindwall, but has just been physically and psychologically handled better.
Also, don't underestimate the effects of a great coach, like Bob Simpson or John Buchanan. They both redefined the direction of Australian cricket.
You're on the money there Jimmy.
The Windies were pretty good.
Blues_Man
2 May 2007, 17:31
You're on the money there Jimmy.
The Windies were pretty good.
They were awesome ...nobody has denied this ...but this current Australian side is just as awesome ..and IMO would have the windies covered.
as Jimmy quite rightly pointed out, players these days have much better coaching and preparation from a much earlier age...they also have better support, equipment, and pitch conditions .
Having watched the Windies through the 70's and 80's and the Aussies through the years i have no doubt in my mind that our current team would have them covered in most aspects of the game .
BarcaRulz
2 May 2007, 18:16
Clarke is really flying under the radar. He should be in that initial line up. He made some very good knocks, and his two wickets in the final were extremely important, especially that first one.
Milo the border collie
2 May 2007, 21:20
They were awesome ...nobody has denied this ...but this current Australian side is just as awesome ..and IMO would have the windies covered.
as Jimmy quite rightly pointed out, players these days have much better coaching and preparation from a much earlier age...they also have better support, equipment, and pitch conditions .
Having watched the Windies through the 70's and 80's and the Aussies through the years i have no doubt in my mind that our current team would have them covered in most aspects of the game .
But if you gave them the same opportunities, scientific input and big bats as the current generation of Australians they may well whip them and they were a very good fielding team and probably younger in their prime than this team where a lot of the members have peaked with age. But that made them probably more agile in the field and remember this current team did not get tested all world cup and it wasn't only because they were dominant. The opposition was often quite non-existent and lacklustre and some of them get psyched out which the west indies who were really aggressive wouldn't
Ricketts
2 May 2007, 23:12
Hayden
Sangakkara
Ponting (El Capitan)
KP
Jayawardene
Gibbs
Styris
Tait
Bond
McGrath
Murali
Pretty hard to argue with that. :thumbsu:
Not enough Aussies in there, so it's no suprise you agree with it.
The 80s Windies against the present Australian side would depend upon which laws you played under.
If it was unlimited bouncers (with just the intimidatory bowling thing) then I'd fancy them on any pitch that had a bit of life in it.
With them it wasn't just how brutal they were but they stopped you getting any momentum, ridiculously slow over rates, virtually nothing that could be played off the front foot unless Marshall was swinging it.This current Aussie side who like to get the game moving would get bloody frustrated.
jnash196
5 May 2007, 19:42
Robert Walls anyone?
He was never wise
GhostofJimJess
5 May 2007, 22:36
The 80s Windies against the present Australian side would depend upon which laws you played under.
If it was unlimited bouncers (with just the intimidatory bowling thing) then I'd fancy them on any pitch that had a bit of life in it.
With them it wasn't just how brutal they were but they stopped you getting any momentum, ridiculously slow over rates, virtually nothing that could be played off the front foot unless Marshall was swinging it.This current Aussie side who like to get the game moving would get bloody frustrated.
Bloody good point, Dipper.