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Romeo
29 Apr 2007, 21:22
Great to see other countries imploding with fallout due to poor performances. And some in SA want KP to return there as captain:thumbsu: Schadenfreude is pleasant when muppet is the subject.

Fanie de Villiers calls for Graeme Smith's head
PTI
Friday, April 27, 2007 15:01 IST

BAN: Former South African paceman Fanie de Villiers has blamed captain Graeme Smith for the team's exit from the World Cup after a humiliating seven wicket defeat in the semi-final at the hands of Australia.
De Villiers said Smith lacked the ties to lead the team on and off the field.
"It's probably the time when we need to have a look at what is wrong with our cricket," De Villiers, now a cricket commentator, said.
"Is it the captain's fault? He (Smith) has played under Eric Simons (a former coach). Eric Simons got fired. He played under Rey Jennings, he got fired because of the captain. Now is it the coaches' problem again or it might be the captain, who knows.
"They've played terrible cricket. It's obvious he can't handle his team off the field because of all the stories behind the scenes," the former swing bowler said.
Former national coach Ray Jennings questioned the mental attitude and the preparation of the players.
He argued that as top level sportsmen, the national cricketers should have been able to play under any condition. Smith is to blame for them not being able to adapt to the conditions.
"For some players to say that the condition was taxing does not argue well. These players are top class sportsmen and they should be able to play under any condition," he said.

AND

Sack Smith and bring home KP as captain
29th April

The Proteas' dismal exit from the Cricket World Cup poses major questions about the future of the South African team. But how much of a change is needed?
At the start of South Africa’s campaign at the Cricket World Cup, we were ranked number one coming off 10 excellent games played by the Proteas. But then many questions were asked about our shocking and the one-dimensional bowling attack as we spluttered through the first round and Super 8s and got thrashed in the semis.

The blame must rest on the shoulders of the administrators, the Minister of Sport and the selectors. The national teams have forced quota systems. Why? Surely the best players should be picked, led by the best captain. Then, win or lose, we will all be behind our teams.

We ask ourselves, where to from here? Graeme Smith says we need to find a decent spin attack. Then how does Robin Peterson feel and why was he there, for goodness sake? We cannot blame Peterson for his dismal performance; he was simply playing his best but, simply put, his best is not good enough for this World Cup. Do we have other spinners better than Peterson? Yes, there are a few but the problem with them is political correctness.

Turning to our two strike bowlers, my heroes Shaun Pollock and Makhaya Ntini, why did they perform so far below par? They came off previous games in top form and Pollock is the world’s number one bowler. As support bowlers, stalwarts Andre Nel, Charl Langeveld, Jacques Kallis and Andrew Hall did their job. The difference between Australia and us was the fact that their strike bowlers and spinners performed. Smith must accept the blame for their collective loss of form.

OK, we must blame the tactics as well for the semi-final defeat - why on earth would you go out like we did without Plan B?

For the team to regain the support of South African cricket supporters, Smith and coach Mickey Arthur, the selectors and the whole committee must be fired immediately. They did not perform and should fall on their swords. The huge salaries they earn could be put to better use in development.

Pollock, Ntini, Peterson, Langeveld, Justin Kemp and Roger Telemachus should be dropped and old man Ali Bacher should take over the reins until a decent committee and a selection panel of former greats can be selected. Tell the Minister of Sport to take a hike - only then can we start preparing for next World Cup.

And on a lighter note, maybe we should ask Kevin Pietersen to come home and captain our side.

Meanwhile Jonty Rhodes thinks that political interference hamstrung SA but muppet refuses to use that as an excuse

Captain didn't have best team - Rhodes

Johannesburg - South African cricket captain Graeme Smith said on Sunday he would not use politics as an excuse for South Africa's performance in the Cricket World Cup in the West Indies.

A Johannesburg Sunday newspaper quoted Jonty Rhodes, the former South African international and the team's fielding coach at the World Cup, as saying Smith had been hamstrung by the selection policies of Cricket South Africa administrators.
Since emerging from the apartheid era, Cricket South Africa has sought to redress the racial imbalances of the past by including a number of black players in provincial and national teams.
They took seven black players to the West Indies, which prompted a number of commentators to imply South Africa did not take their best 15-man squad to the World Cup.
South Africa were well beaten by Australia in the second semi-final of the tournament in St Lucia on Wednesday.
"We were pathetic against Australia," Rhodes told Rapport, "but South Africa is the only land that can't say they had their best 15 players here.
"In a tournament like this, where every player in every game has to be at his best, is that a recipe for a problem. Can (CSA) honestly say they gave Graeme the 15 men he needed to win the World Cup?"
Speaking at a media conference in Johannesburg after arriving back in South Africa on Sunday, Smith said he had not read the report, but strongly denied that the selection policy had hampered the team in any way. "I would never have said that. That's not an excuse. One of the tough things is to control (at the World Cup) is the outside influences on the team, when there are things said and some lies are flying around. I won't be making any excuses about politics," said Smith.

beatnik
29 Apr 2007, 21:40
Great to see other countries imploding with fallout due to poor performances. And some in SA want KP to return there as captain :thumbsu: Schadenfreude is pleasant when muppet is the subject.

what do you mean 'other' teams? are you implying that your team underperformed? :eek:

i've long suspected that you were an Englishman in disguise (no self-respecting Aussie would think as you do of KP ;))

Romeo
29 Apr 2007, 21:55
what do you mean 'other' teams? are you implying that your team underperformed? :eek:

i've long suspected that you were an Englishman in disguise (no self-respecting Aussie would think as you do of KP ;))

Countries other than us (Australia) of course. Think about it! - Pakistan, India, West Indies, England and SA are all looking around as to where to cast the first stone after putatively below bar performances.

King Elvis
29 Apr 2007, 22:06
Christ they turn quick - in the lead up to the Tournament they were the Number One Ranked team in the world, and it was all going beautifully.

mate_67
29 Apr 2007, 22:11
there eating there young.

tis beautiful to see.

Romeo
29 Apr 2007, 23:33
http://www.beastinsight.com/images/stories/june06/cape-times-cricket.jpg

Ricketts
30 Apr 2007, 00:34
http://www.beastinsight.com/images/stories/june06/cape-times-cricket.jpg



gotta quote this. :thumbsu:

LongBomb
30 Apr 2007, 08:49
That is fantastic! :D

beatnik
1 May 2007, 20:12
Countries other than us (Australia) of course. Think about it! - Pakistan, India, West Indies, England and SA are all looking around as to where to cast the first stone after putatively below bar performances.

alright, i'll accept that...

...but it still doesn't explain your obsession with KP :confused:

unless you are actually a 'juliet'??

Romeo
1 May 2007, 20:18
alright, i'll accept that...

...but it still doesn't explain your obsession with KP :confused:

unless you are actually a 'juliet'??


Not an obsession I just like brilliance. In cricket and footy I gravitate towards following players who have flair and rare talent rather than plodders who are to be respected, maybe admired but bore me senseless! Also KP has a bit of individuality and maverick about him. I hate robots and run of the mill type people/players as well.

beatnik
1 May 2007, 20:34
Not an obsession I just like brilliance. In cricket and footy I gravitate towards following players who have flair and rare talent rather than plodders who are to be respected, maybe admired but bore me senseless! Also KP has a bit of individuality and maverick about him. I hate robots and run of the mill type people/players as well.

nah, try again...you haven't convinced me with that :rolleyes:

to speak so sycophantically (no offense intended but c'mon, that's what it is) about a player from an-other nation is odd in an Australian male

i mean, tendulkar is better and so is dravid, sanath, lara, kallis in recent times and i'd have kp on a par with gibbs, jayawardene (though i do acknowledge kp's potential for improvement possibly beyond both)

so either you're a short-sighted bird who fancies the skunk or you're a closet Pom...which is it? :p ;)

Corrosion
1 May 2007, 21:24
http://www.beastinsight.com/images/stories/june06/cape-times-cricket.jpg

ROFL! :D

ALwaysNorth
1 May 2007, 21:43
http://www.beastinsight.com/images/stories/june06/cape-times-cricket.jpg

Somebody must have forgotten to tell the Cape Times that Australia were the chokers !!!!! what about Australia being unable to defend 400 ???? Geoff Lawson should set them straight .

Cape Times seems to be more in touch with reality than some posters on this board , I wonder what the papers on the high veldt said or who they blamed can anyone translate Afrikaans ?

Romeo
1 May 2007, 22:04
Somebody must have forgotten to tell the Cape Times that Australia were the chokers !!!!! what about Australia being unable to defend 400 ???? Geoff Lawson should set them straight .

Cape Times seems to be more in touch with reality than some posters on this board , I wonder what the papers on the high veldt said or who they blamed can anyone translate Afrikaans ?


In Afrikaner territory they're bemoaning the fact that Hansie is no longer there. They're blaming muppet and the black players and the general lack of Afrikaners.

ALwaysNorth
1 May 2007, 22:08
In Afrikaner territory they're bemoaning the fact that Hansie is no longer there. They're blaming muppet and the black players and the general lack of Afrikaners.

Thanks for that Romeo , good to see the Boers are unchanged and still playing the blame game .