View Full Version : Gilly 149 v Punters 140*?
in your opinion which knock was better?
RoosterLad
2 May 2007, 12:19
I can't split them. Both big tons in World Cup Finals which helped beat a sub continent team.
put me in coach
2 May 2007, 12:24
I can't split them. Both big tons in World Cup Finals which helped beat a sub continent team.
Can't argue with what RL said.:thumbsu:
bring it on
2 May 2007, 12:29
easily gilly......... he is exciting to watch... unlike ponting
pinkus maximus
2 May 2007, 12:39
gillies for sure. in the 2003 final everyone had a field day but only ponting and martyn really went on with it
frankrizzo
2 May 2007, 13:27
As good as punters knock was it didn't win the wc outright like gilly's knock
Gilly's knock was pure cricketing violence, it has to be up with the best one day knocks ever played.
Both brilliant knocks, but Eric's was better.
I think Gilly's as he simply won us the game of his own bat
Punter is an exciting batsman to watch but Gilly is just murderous when in full bash mode
I think consideration for Gilly in that his form has been fairly poor as well so to come through in the final speaks volumes for the man
Bond,ShaneBond
2 May 2007, 16:18
Gilchrist. While I remember watching Pontings and thinking "I've never seen anything like this before" I have to go Gilchrist because he single-handedly won the match. Look at everyone elses strike rates and imagine the result if he hadn't have played...
Mr_Smooth
2 May 2007, 16:45
gilly - daylight - ponting (and i'm a massive punter fan)
how many batsmen have ever looked like scoring a double ton in 38 overs before??
red+black
2 May 2007, 16:50
how many batsmen have ever looked like scoring a double ton in 38 overs before??
2. Gibbs and Gilchrist.
2. Gibbs and Gilchrist.
One is a legend of tha game, the other is a match-fixing, front running, world cup dropping know.
swantastic
2 May 2007, 18:06
easily gilly......... he is exciting to watch... unlike pontingDo you know any thing about cricket,Punter is exciting when he gets going but for sheer excitement Gilly is the one.He might as well keep going.
RoosterLad
2 May 2007, 18:21
One is a legend of tha game, the other is a match-fixing, front running, world cup dropping know.
+ racist
GoSydneySwans
2 May 2007, 18:21
As good as punters knock was it didn't win the wc outright like gilly's knock
Gilly's knock was pure cricketing violence, it has to be up with the best one day knocks ever played.
Back then 300+ scores were pretty rare, and getting 359 or whatever it was definitely put the match beyond doubt. Having said that, I voted Gilchrist because he did it with the batsmen around him getting about 20 or 30 each, whereas when Ponting did it there were a couple of 50s from teammates from memory.
OzBomber
2 May 2007, 18:41
Punter was awesome.
But Gilly was amazing!
'Tis my favourite Gilly innings.
don't get me wrong, both were fantastic..
BUT I really thought, from a cricketing purist's perspective, Punter's knock was more stylish and had a better array of shots.. Gilly seemed to play almost everything onto the leg side..
In 2003 Punter played almost every shot imaginable to a batsman and never looked like going out (and didn't)..!! Gilly on the other hand was dropped twice, one by the bowler and one by Sangakarra..
I remember one of Ponting's sixes (which was massive..!!!) was pulled viciously to a pace bowler and ended up stuck in the middle of a Pepsi ad near the scoreboard..
I'd love to see a wagon wheel of both player's inning's if someone can find it?!
R Man
frankrizzo
2 May 2007, 20:22
Back then 300+ scores were pretty rare, and getting 359 or whatever it was definitely put the match beyond doubt. Having said that, I voted Gilchrist because he did it with the batsmen around him getting about 20 or 30 each, whereas when Ponting did it there were a couple of 50s from teammates from memory.
Yes but martyn made a run a ball 80 odd to back him up( as well as gilly/hayden setting up a platform to launch)
Apart from a little while for sanath nobody seemed all that comfortable in the 07 final but gilchrist managed 150 odd off less than 110 balls.
freakish stuff, not that it takes away from pontings innings which is also up with the best played.
frankrizzo
2 May 2007, 20:25
don't get me wrong, both were fantastic..
BUT I really thought, from a cricketing purist's perspective, Punter's knock was more stylish and had a better array of shots.. Gilly seemed to play almost everything onto the leg side..
In 2003 Punter played almost every shot imaginable to a batsman and never looked like going out (and didn't)..!! Gilly on the other hand was dropped twice, one by the bowler and one by Sangakarra..
I remember one of Ponting's sixes (which was massive..!!!) was pulled viciously to a pace bowler and ended up stuck in the middle of a Pepsi ad near the scoreboard..
I'd love to see a wagon wheel of both player's inning's if someone can find it?!
R Man
that shot was off srinath, at the time i was thinking if only it had landed just above the 'i' in pepsi ;)
swansrule100
2 May 2007, 20:27
i went ponting because we had lost 2 early wickets and he started slow and then went ballastic and put the game out of reach of a powerful india batting line up.
i didnt think sri lanka were as much threat as india were 4 years ago thats what i based my vote on
red+black
2 May 2007, 20:45
I'd love to see a wagon wheel of both player's inning's if someone can find it?!
Just what I could get off cricinfo:
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3492/puntercrys4.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6554/gillycrjx5.jpg
OzBomber
2 May 2007, 20:57
I noticed that both batsman had most of their runs on the legside.
But Gilly had more on the offside than Punter (mainly due to the shots down towards long off).
Ponting hit 5 sixes to Long-on.
Gilly hit 3 to the same area.
Punter had 3 sices through midwicket, Gilly also had 3.
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i went ponting because we had lost 2 early wickets and he started slow and then went ballastic and put the game out of reach of a powerful india batting line up.
FoW: 1-105 (Gilchrist, 13.6 ov), 2-125 (Hayden, 19.5 ov)
Yeah, we were in big trouble!!
OzBomber
2 May 2007, 21:31
Oh yeah. I thought we'd never recover from that disastrous start. Punter came to the rescue!
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realsniper09
2 May 2007, 21:33
Gilchrist.
Why? He made 149 where as no one else could get close. He made it off 104, a strike rate of about 140, where as no one could get close. Even when Ponting, Clarke, Symonds had a free range to hit out in the end, they didn't even get close to striking it like Gilchrist. Just look at the boundary totals. Combined batsmen without Gilchrist was about 110 runs off 120 balls. He was just on another level in that match.
Ponting was also unbelievable, but in that game, other batsmen did actually get in and were okay at timing the ball. A more complete and cricketing innings than Gilchrist, but in terms of who was higher compared to the other players on that day, it has to be Gilchrist.
Both equally good and for different reasons.
Back then 300+ scores were pretty rare, and getting 359 or whatever it was definitely put the match beyond doubt.That's true, but we were batting a strike rate of 7.5 in the final. Over 50 overs that's a score of 375, so we were well on the way to a massive score still. Gilly's innings was just about the best one day knock I've ever seen, given the wet pitch, the fact that it was a final, and the extra pressure put on by losing so many overs.
spookism
3 May 2007, 00:31
Punter was awesome.
But Gilly was amazing!
'Tis my favourite Gilly innings.
Ashes, Test 4, Waca?????????
OzBomber
3 May 2007, 07:40
Nah. This tops that. That is 2nd. :D
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Joffaboy
3 May 2007, 09:30
The comparision is moot.
One on postage stamp in a rain shortened match, the other on the veldt in rarified atmosphere where the ball seems to travel further (note the match v SA last year).
Gilchrist dominated while most struggled. Ponting dominated however others scored runs (Martyn 85*).
For sheer power and clean hitting Gilly. For technique and perfect timing Ponting. One a knockout (Gilly) one a captains knock (Ponting).
Both with 8 glorious sixes.
We are priviliged to have seen these two champions represent our country in finals such as this.
Cassius_Clay
3 May 2007, 09:33
Too much Gilchrist love.
Ponting's was easily better. Against better opponents, bigger ground.
Too much Gilchrist love.
Ponting's was easily better. Against better opponents, bigger ground.
100% spot on.
Dingo - Alpha
3 May 2007, 11:10
GILLY by far!!!:thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu: :thumbsu:
frankrizzo
3 May 2007, 13:21
Rubbish better opponents indeed.
Sri lanka 07 was far stronger than india 03.
Gilly i think is the best
NYE TTTT
3 May 2007, 13:53
Gilly:)
Ponting:(
TorresIsGod
3 May 2007, 15:01
easily gilly......... he is exciting to watch... unlike ponting
I expect nothing less from you gillyrulz, NYE TTTT and thelionsrule
Agreed. Can't split them. Both innings were essentially the difference between Australia dominating the finals and having a close game. If I were to chose, I would pick Ponting's.
Sir_Adrian84
3 May 2007, 16:01
2. Gibbs and Gilchrist.
Gibbs was out for 175 (111) after 31.5 overs.
Gilchrist made 149 (104) after 30.3/38 overs.
Both had their chances,
I reckon Gilchrist's innings>Ponting's just. Both had a record 8 sixes.
Ponting had the better ending going from 50-140 of 48 balls.
Sir_Adrian84
3 May 2007, 16:05
That's true, but we were batting a strike rate of 7.5 in the final. Over 50 overs that's a score of 375, so we were well on the way to a massive score still. Gilly's innings was just about the best one day knock I've ever seen, given the wet pitch, the fact that it was a final, and the extra pressure put on by losing so many overs.
plus considering the last 10 could get as many as 130 runs, australia could have made 400-420.
sniper77
3 May 2007, 16:26
This would have to be Gilly's greatest knock.
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2001-02/AUS_IN_RSA/SCORECARDS/AUS_RSA_T1_22-26FEB2002.html
Watching it at home on TV, can you remember when he smashed that six and just missed the big prize (Gold Bullion I think)
OzBomber
3 May 2007, 17:07
This would have to be Gilly's greatest knock.
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2001-02/AUS_IN_RSA/SCORECARDS/AUS_RSA_T1_22-26FEB2002.html
Watching it at home on TV, can you remember when he smashed that six and just missed the big prize (Gold Bullion I think)
Yep. Right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMbVgSb90cg
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OzBomber
3 May 2007, 17:08
Gibbs was out for 175 (111) after 31.5 overs.
Gilchrist made 149 (104) after 30.3/38 overs.
Both had their chances,
I reckon Gilchrist's innings>Ponting's just. Both had a record 8 sixes.
Ponting had the better ending going from 50-140 of 48 balls.
Gilly would've had a chance at 200 if there was 50 overs. That's if he hadn't gone out!
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OzBomber
3 May 2007, 17:09
The comparision is moot.
One on postage stamp in a rain shortened match, the other on the veldt in rarified atmosphere where the ball seems to travel further (note the match v SA last year).
Gilchrist dominated while most struggled. Ponting dominated however others scored runs (Martyn 85*).
For sheer power and clean hitting Gilly. For technique and perfect timing Ponting. One a knockout (Gilly) one a captains knock (Ponting).
Both with 8 glorious sixes.
We are priviliged to have seen these two champions represent our country in finals such as this.
Martyn made 88. :D
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swansrule100
3 May 2007, 20:50
FoW: 1-105 (Gilchrist, 13.6 ov), 2-125 (Hayden, 19.5 ov)
Yeah, we were in big trouble!!
they are still early wickets
just had runs on the board
they are still early wickets
just had runs on the board
Yes big trouble, losing 2 wickets in 20 overs. We would have been 5 down at that rate, we would have been right up shit creek. :p
davey_magik
4 May 2007, 12:44
Too much Gilchrist love.
Ponting's was easily better. Against better opponents, bigger ground.
Sri Lanka 2007 attack > India 2003 attack by a long way.
India had Harbajhan and no others. Sri Lanka had Murali, Malinga and Vaas.
swansrule100
4 May 2007, 16:18
Yes big trouble, losing 2 wickets in 20 overs. We would have been 5 down at that rate, we would have been right up shit creek. :p
in all seriousness they fell close together it could of been the start of something, they are hard knocks to separate
what about steve waughs 120 in the 99 world cup
it wasnt a final but was still awesome
Steve Waugh's innings was the greatest one day innings ever played.
UpForGrabs
7 May 2007, 00:20
Sri Lanka 2007 attack > India 2003 attack by a long way.
India had Harbajhan and no others. Sri Lanka had Murali, Malinga and Vaas.
India had the deadly opening bowling partnership of Zaheer Khan and Javagal Srinath!!
We must've been quaking in our boots - especially after Zaheer's 12-ball opening over ;)
Steve Waugh was the most over-praised person who ever played.
Fixed for you.