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i think it will be either james clement, josh friaser, or ben johnson.
do u think heath shaw, dale thomas or scott pendlebury will captain collingwood in the future?
magpies42
8 May 2007, 22:40
i think it will be either james clement, josh friaser, or ben johnson.
do u think heath shaw, dale thomas or scott pendlebury will captain collingwood in the future?
it will definetly be jimmy james in the interim. Then either Heath, Josh, pendelbury,thomas who knows
Chris Judd... thank you Eddie
uncle dom
8 May 2007, 22:52
i think it will be either james clement, josh friaser, or ben johnson.
do u think heath shaw, dale thomas or scott pendlebury will captain collingwood in the future?
very very simple it has to be Heath Shaw, the kids a star and he is collingwood though and though.
He is every thing you want in a leader he simply plays for the JUMPER!
Tarkyn_24
8 May 2007, 22:59
Tarkyn Lockyer
I seriously don't think we have had enough threads on this :eek:
Jabso, please remove.
I seriously don't think we have had enough threads on this :eek:
Jabso, please remove.
Haha nothing wrong with a harmless refresher.
Tarkyn_24
9 May 2007, 10:15
Haha nothing wrong with a harmless refresher.
But there was one on here yesterday.
Whoever made this thread, please Browse before starting
Heath Shaw is making a better case by the week.
If I had to select someone today it would be Ben Johnson but he can’t talk to the media.
Josh Fraser’s case is deteriorating.
My money is on Josh unfortunately.
Tarkyn Lockyer
i reckon it has to be him too, tries his heart out every game like no other except burns
I like Rhyce Shaw to be our next captain, is experienced, comes through hard time (03,04,05) , plays for the jumper like his little brother, can talk to the media (when they know he is around), looks deeply hurt when we lose/ his opponent beats him or he misses a match, always keeps his head over the ball and never gives up, and he is also in our leadership group meaning he is rated by other players.
I do think it'll be Clement then Fraser, but would really like a young player to be given when Buckley retires
goal sneak
9 May 2007, 17:27
I like Rhyce Shaw to be our next captain, is experienced, comes through hard time (03,04,05) , plays for the jumper like his little brother, can talk to the media (when they know he is around), looks deeply hurt when we lose/ his opponent beats him or he misses a match, always keeps his head over the ball and never gives up, and he is also in our leadership group meaning he is rated by other players.
I do think it'll be Clement then Fraser, but would really like a young player to be given when Buckley retires
Rhyce Shaw? Na, mate that GF has ruled out Rhyce shaw from any leadership job. Big players rise to the occassion and he didn't. You can say it was a long time ago and he has matured since then but his peers and opposition won't forget. Do you wan't him leading you the next time your side makes a grand final? I don't think so.
His younger brother however is mounting a great argument and has shown that he can handle the big stage. However will he be ready by next year or will Clement have to have it for a year or two. I would love to see them hand it straight to Heath but i think the Clement may have earnt the job for the interim.
Id like to think that moment you talk about now doesn't affect anything (he averages 20 odd disposals now) but i think your right it would be remembered by opposition supporters.
and i would like to see him in another Grand final say he would put ina blinder to make up from 03
Tarkyn_24
9 May 2007, 21:59
i reckon it has to be him too, tries his heart out every game like no other except burns
You're my new best friend:) :thumbsu:
Invigoration
10 May 2007, 00:35
Hopefully no-one takes this the wrong way, but does anyone think Heaths A.D.D might effect him for getting the captaincy?
I thought about it a bit since that article popped up about him and how he deals with it. Some of the things just made me think he might struggle with it a bit. Just the sitting in team meetings etc, and how he was easily distracted and unable to keep focused.
No doubting he's on field leadership skills, but it's still something that needs to be taken into consideration when thinking of him as captain material?
I don't really know much about A.D.D, so I can't really judge the effect it would have, but it would be interesting to hear what others thought
How come Didak is never mentioned btw?
LOOK AT THE DUKES
10 May 2007, 14:20
I would think Jimmy Clement would captain for the next 3 yrs then
Dale Thomas should take over, but I would really love to see Heath Shaw be the man.
I like Rhyce Shaw to be our next captain, is experienced, comes through hard time (03,04,05) , plays for the jumper like his little brother, can talk to the media (when they know he is around), looks deeply hurt when we lose/ his opponent beats him or he misses a match, always keeps his head over the ball and never gives up, and he is also in our leadership group meaning he is rated by other players.
I think he's improved immeasurably since the GF, i just dont think he is captain material. He still tends to make bad decisions on occasion and while this doesnt necessarily detract much from his performance as a player the last thing you want to see is your captain make a huge clanger
typewriter
10 May 2007, 15:33
i think Jimmy should and will be made captain for the next two years and then hand it down it heathy. heath has only played 30 odd games and although plays like he has been around for 10 years needs to be allowed to develop at his own right without being captain of the most famous club in australia.
i think it would make a mockery of our captaincy if it were given to Johno. i am a bit of a tradionalist but the captain of Collingwood cannot have a history of trouble at night clubs. you look at all the great skippers bucks hird voss and they r all model citizens that have never been in trouble. i think johno is a great player and is irreplacable to our team howver captain i dont think so.
doppleganger
10 May 2007, 15:44
Josh Fraser
I think he's improved immeasurably since the GF, i just dont think he is captain material. He still tends to make bad decisions on occasion and while this doesnt necessarily detract much from his performance as a player the last thing you want to see is your captain make a huge clanger
People forget details of 2003, but R.Shaw was pretty good throughout it. It probably saved him from being delisted. 2004 was shocking despite some ok games as a tagger.
Hadders
10 May 2007, 17:55
Give it to Clement as a short-term, 2-3 year appointment and by then a number of candidates should have emerged to to put their hands up as next in line for the job. Whether it's Fraser, Shaw or Thomas who knows (could be all 3) but give them all a bit more time while Clement does an outstanding job leading the club on and off the field. :thumbsu:
Coin_Toss
10 May 2007, 18:11
Why did Rocca step down from the leadership group? He could have been the next captain, he has a presence which is immeasurable on a ruler, and he is younger than James Clement (turns 30 this year).
In the long-term, I think Scott Pendlebury is captain material. He's an option we can toss up along with Josh Fraser, Heath Shaw, Dale Thomas and Nick Maxwell. So we have a few options.
How come Didak is never mentioned btw?
A: Players of his prestige don't necessarily make good captains.
I can't think of the word I was going to use, ah well.
stui magpie
10 May 2007, 20:34
As much as Clement is definitely leadership material, I think appointing a captain when he's 30 with so many young guys would be a backward step. While Josh's star may have waned a little, he thrives on responsibility and he's my pick for next captain, with Heath to be deputy vice to start with then Captain when Josh retires.
Hopefully Heater can reverse his fathers record in Grand Finals.:thumbsu:
Therussian
10 May 2007, 22:38
I seriously don't think we have had enough threads on this :eek:
Jabso, please remove.
agreed or at least merge them all.
by the way, there is nothing more certain in football then Heath Shaw captaining the CFC.
Stakerz
10 May 2007, 22:53
Joint Captains?
the lemon wedge
11 May 2007, 02:33
Who will captain saturday?
3 or 4 years too late.
Bucks should have stepped aside in 2003 or 2004 and allowed Jimmy or someone else to develop into being Captain.
The decision to hold onto Bucks as Captain came directly from the top, as Bucks is our most bankable player he had to remain as Captain.
Disagree Tess. Buckley is the best captain we have and while he plays he should remain captain. The whole succession planning thing while the old captain remains is a complete crock. In reality a new captain has a far greater chance to put his stamp on the club without the old captain present. Clement, if he is made captain will be no worse for his extended wait and in the mean time we’ve had the best captain we could have had. If Buckley plays next year (unlikely I suspect) I’d still have him as captain.
scottyD
12 May 2007, 14:21
st. jimmy clement
then
srgnt heath shaw
Danny_CFC
12 May 2007, 21:23
Didak?
Snatcher01
13 May 2007, 13:52
Didak is a good player for sure. Probably my favourite player on the team. But he just doesn't seem to have those leadership qualities of being the next captain. i like the sounds of Josh Fraser being the next Collingwood captain. Works hard every game, has a major role in the side and has those leadership qualities that every team looks for.
Didak is a good player for sure. Probably my favourite player on the team. But he just doesn't seem to have those leadership qualities of being the next captain. i like the sounds of Josh Fraser being the next Collingwood captain. Works hard every game, has a major role in the side and has those leadership qualities that every team looks for.
didak was captain of the australian under 18's that toured ireland and he was south aust under 18 captain at state champions so think again
Danny_CFC
13 May 2007, 19:31
Didak 4 Captain.
Invigoration
14 May 2007, 01:53
A: Players of his prestige don't necessarily make good captains.
I can't think of the word I was going to use, ah well.
So why are names like Thomas and Shaw constantly thrown around with extremely little, apart from their on field performances, to show they have what it takes to be a captain?
It should apply across the board
"didak was captain of the australian under 18's that toured ireland and he was south aust under 18 captain at state champions so think again"
That would go along way to proving that players of he's prestige actually do make good captains :)
FootyHead_1
14 May 2007, 10:48
didak was captain of the australian under 18's that toured ireland and he was south aust under 18 captain at state champions so think again
I guess Didak could be the next Collingwood captain then if he has those leadership qualities like you say he does. Guess i never thought about Didak being captain. But honestly i like the sounds of Josh Fraser being captain to.
Danny_CFC
14 May 2007, 19:22
didak should lead the club through a successful era
Do a Brisbane, captains can be: Clement, Didak, Lockyer, Thomas and Pendles.
Danny_CFC
14 May 2007, 19:41
Maybe a st kilda change the captain every year?
Tarkyn_24
15 May 2007, 22:22
Maybe a st kilda change the captain every year?
I prefer Sydney's balloting of names method?
Kieren Jack... it's you're turn this week for the Swans:thumbsu:
Didz_is_God_4
15 May 2007, 22:29
Gotta be Tarkyn Lockyer. I think in years to come one of the Shaws will lead the club, more than likely Heath.
Tarkyn_24
15 May 2007, 22:31
Gotta be Tarkyn Lockyer. I think in years to come one of the Shaws will lead the club, more than likely Heath.
This kid's smart:thumbsu:
FootyHead_1
21 May 2007, 13:24
Hopefully no-one takes this the wrong way, but does anyone think Heaths A.D.D might effect him for getting the captaincy?
I thought about it a bit since that article popped up about him and how he deals with it. Some of the things just made me think he might struggle with it a bit. Just the sitting in team meetings etc, and how he was easily distracted and unable to keep focused.
No doubting he's on field leadership skills, but it's still something that needs to be taken into consideration when thinking of him as captain material?
I don't really know much about A.D.D, so I can't really judge the effect it would have, but it would be interesting to hear what others thought
How come Didak is never mentioned btw?
ther all shit
it'll go Jimmy Clement then when he retires it will go to Dale (Superstar) Thomas.
The Royal Sampler
9 Jun 2007, 16:49
Martin Clarke.
Thommo 42
9 Jun 2007, 17:29
Clement if Bucks gives it away next year.
Otherwise Lockyer in 2009 and then Travis Cloke.
People forget Tarkyn was VC when he busted his knee
Tarkyn_24
9 Jun 2007, 22:27
Clement if Bucks gives it away next year.
Otherwise Lockyer in 2009 and then Travis Cloke.
People forget Tarkyn was VC when he busted his knee
I don't.
nick_savo
9 Jun 2007, 22:53
Tarks 4 PM
Tarkyn_24
9 Jun 2007, 23:06
Tarks 4 PM
knew you'd come crawling back:D
nick_savo
9 Jun 2007, 23:19
I dont remember me ever saying anything bad about Tarks, he is a superstar, please find a post of mine baggin Tarks so i know i did it cause i cant remember
Hadders
10 Jun 2007, 14:48
Clement if Bucks gives it away next year.
Otherwise Lockyer in 2009 and then Travis Cloke.
People forget Tarkyn was VC when he busted his knee
Clement will be captain next year regardless. If Bucks does play again next year he'll hand it over in case he gets re-injured and spends the majority on the sidelines.
If the Pies had had a crystal ball at the start of the year and knew that Bucks would spend more than half the year on the sidelines they wouldn't have changed his mind on stepping down as captain.
Thommo 42
10 Jun 2007, 16:09
I mean gives away the captaincy.