Heritage Guernsey

[Smeagle]

Read in the paper that you boys are wearing the Old Easts jumper in Heritage Round (Round 14).
I am quite pleased with it my self (I actually sent that design to the club during the preseason:) ), but what do you guys think of it?

Here is what i sent in:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/5c9be587d7.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

[Cameron_K]

disgusted

[Kram81]

It's alright. Dunno about the Coasters wearing State of Origin jumper though, ridiculous really. It's supposed to represent the West Australian born players.

[dominguez]

I don't have a problem with us wearing an East Freo jumper. Hase will be stoked!

Can't believe the eagles are allowed to wear the state jumper. I know they won 2 flags with a state side, but it's ridiculous. Talkback radio would be going into melt down if we were wearing it.

[Plugga]

I don't have a problem with us wearing an East Freo jumper. Hase will be stoked!

Can't believe the eagles are allowed to wear the state jumper. I know they won 2 flags with a state side, but it's ridiculous. Talkback radio would be going into melt down if we were wearing it.

BIGGEST DISGRACE THIS YEAR including Cousins et al

[Lach72]

Vomit

[Cameron_K]

I found it funny, the eagles wearing the state jumper and Chris Judd modelling it :D

[Freo Shark]

Love the East Freo Guernsey. We should use it every second year.

[inferno66]

Love the East Freo Guernsey. We should use it every second year.

Yep... looks brilliant :D

[Ripper]

Yep... looks brilliant :D

Too right.

[Brumbies]

Eagles have to wear to try and scrounge up some heritage before they existed........State closest thing they have got. Most probably been alright if Freo wernt in the comp.

[Lach72]

Too right.

Ghey...
and vomitous...

[legitimatic]

Ghey...
and vomitous...

Agreed

Horrible, horrible jumper.

[Ripper]

Agreed

Horrible, horrible jumper.

That is not exactly like the 1979GF one that we are supposed to be wearing though. :thumbsu:

[Cameron_K]

Ghey...
and vomitous...


You are a wise man Lach ;)

[Lach72]

You are a wise man Lach ;)

Can't talk...chundering...

[tico]

*finally ....... after everything else that has happened to this club all the lows, we have resorted to this?(old easts jumper) this is the lowest point in Fremantle's history:(



*= tounge in cheek.

[Kerr4PM]

Has anything officially been said about the eagles wearing the state jumper or is this all bullshit?

[Jamodu]

That is not exactly like the 1979GF one that we are supposed to be wearing though. :thumbsu:

As much as it disgusts me, the only positive to come out of the debacle that is Fremantle wearing that filth, would be for the same result. God knows how I'm going to support the team in blue and white over the team in red and white.

[Freo Dr]

Lot of people see the Eagles wearing the state jumper as the pathetic grab for a history they don't have as exactly that. Many have said it including even Langdon on radio Eagles but what does it matter ..... Eagles inc. do whatever the hell they like and get away with it.

It's happened so many times now you just get numb to it after a while......

[Freo Dr]

Reckon this is the go isn't it - the Old Easts jumper, Swannies play the role of South Freo with a South Melbourne 'V' jumper instead and we recreate the Fremantle Derby GF of 1979....

http://www.lawnbowlerland.com/heritage.jpg

(Courtesy Shane at DL.)

[pistol17]

Just a question, because I seriously dont know. Is Fremantle Footy Club directly linked to South Freo? Or are we linked to both South and East Freo? Is it like Port Adelaide moving into the AFL from SANFL but we have combined both South and East Freo?

[Ripper]

Just a question, because I seriously dont know. Is Fremantle Footy Club directly linked to South Freo? Or are we linked to both South and East Freo? Is it like Port Adelaide moving into the AFL from SANFL but we have combined both South and East Freo?

No direct links , it was set up deliberately like that by the WAFC to protect their cash cow.

The original board had people appointed from everywhere bar the Freo clubs and a CEO who knew Hockey , not Footy.

You would have a hard time convincing me that if the Souths and East Presidents had been on the board at the start that We wouldn't have sprung free a heap of the original Freo eagles stars and they certainly would have clarified the Father/son rule so any Freo boys would have been linked to us only.

[pistol17]

No direct links , it was set up deliberately like that by the WAFC to protect their cash cow.

The original board had people appointed from everywhere bar the Freo clubs and a CEO who knew Hockey , not Footy.

You would have a hard time convincing me that if the Souths and East Presidents had been on the board at the start that We wouldn't have sprung free a heap of the original Freo eagles stars and they certainly would have clarified the Father/son rule so any Freo boys would have been linked to us only.

When it comes to Heritage tho, who do we go back to? Back to South Freo alone or East as well?

[Jamodu]

When it comes to Heritage tho, who do we go back to? Back to South Freo alone or East as well?

In theory, neither as it goes back further than that. The usual heritage jumper is a reproduction worn by the original Fremantle Football Club. Club was one of the original teams in what became the WAFL and eventually split to form South, East and North Fremantle.

[Docker_Brat]

Looks fantastic. Lot of haters around.

[pistol17]

Looks fantastic. Lot of haters around.

Yea i dont mind it. The haters would be most of the South Freo supporterd altho i am one of them but jumper looks good.

[Scotland]

No direct links , it was set up deliberately like that by the WAFC to protect their cash cow.

If the WAFC's sole objective was to protect their cash cow, you would think they would have fought tooth and nail to make WA a one AFL club state and not sought a second AFL license.

The original board had people appointed from everywhere bar the Freo clubs and a CEO who knew Hockey , not Footy.

You would have a hard time convincing me that if the Souths and East Presidents had been on the board at the start that We wouldn't have sprung free a heap of the original Freo eagles stars and they certainly would have clarified the Father/son rule so any Freo boys would have been linked to us only.

Possibly, but the notion that a group of players who had spent 8 years playing a large part in forming a new and successful club would jump off because the presidents of their WAFL clubs were on the board of a new AFL club is a bit rich.

In theory, neither as it goes back further than that. The usual heritage jumper is a reproduction worn by the original Fremantle Football Club. Club was one of the original teams in what became the WAFL and eventually split to form South, East and North Fremantle.

In reality, none of the above. You aren't Souths, Easts or the original FFC (regardless of how many sheep trot out the 'we are Freo footy' line), nor are we the WA S.O.O. side. We were formed as a club in 1986, you in 1994. The whole concept of the 1970's heritage round means absolutely nothing to the WA clubs. As shown by the Port fiasco, it's not designed to include any side that wasn't playing in the VFL in the 1970's, despite their existance as a club at the time. The purpose of the concept is simply a Victorian 'look at us, aren't we great' money spinning exercise.

[Freo Big Fella]

If the WAFC's sole objective was to protect their cash cow, you would think they would have fought tooth and nail to make WA a one AFL club state and not sought a second AFL license.

They did. The AFL, fearful of a West Coast "dynasty" post-1994, simply forced the issue. The WAFC relented, but did the petulant thing and kneecapped us with an incompetent administration.

[Ripper]

They did. The AFL, fearful of a West Coast "dynasty" post-1994, simply forced the issue. The WAFC relented, but did the petulant thing and kneecapped us with an incompetent administration.

Yep , they ended up with a license they didn't particularly want , as when the WAFC took over/rescued from disaster WA footy part of the agreement was that they had first rights on a second license if one was issued.

[dugrene]

As an Old East's supporter seeing our team playing in the blue and white will be one of the highlights of the year.

Club heritage is what this round is all about no doubt some time in the future we will see our team in the Souths strip.

I am also looking forward to seeing then budgies lining up in the Western Warriors creams, Perth Fury skirts or even in our State water polo strip that reflects the hollow feeling they must feel that forces them plagiarise our State football team's heritage.

[Scotland]

As an Old East's supporter seeing our team playing in the blue and white will be one of the highlights of the year.

Club heritage is what this round is all about no doubt some time in the future we will see our team in the Souths strip.

I am also looking forward to seeing then budgies lining up in the Western Warriors creams, Perth Fury skirts or even in our State water polo strip that reflects the hollow feeling they must feel that forces them plagiarise our State football team's heritage.

So we are plagiarising the state football team's heritage by wearing the state football team's jumper (a jumper I do NOT want us to wear), while the Dockers wearing the jumper of a WAFL will be one of the highlights of the year?

Bit of activity recorded on the hypocrisy meter...

We are West Coast, you are Freo. SFFC, EFFC, old FFC and WA SOO are all totally separate entities to our two clubs.

[pistol17]

So we are plagiarising the state football team's heritage by wearing the state football team's jumper (a jumper I do NOT want us to wear), while the Dockers wearing the jumper of a WAFL will be one of the highlights of the year?

Bit of activity recorded on the hypocrisy meter...

We are West Coast, you are Freo. SFFC, EFFC, old FFC and WA SOO are all totally separate entities to our two clubs.

The problem i have with west coast wearing the SOO jumper is the fact the jumper is meant to be given to "WA" players. As a west australian i am pretty annoyed that guys like Judd, Selwood, Wirrpunda etc who are from Victoria are going to be wearing the WA jumper. It is not the plagiarising im annoyed with.

[dugrene]

So we are plagiarising the state football team's heritage by wearing the state football team's jumper (a jumper I do NOT want us to wear), while the Dockers wearing the jumper of a WAFL will be one of the highlights of the year?

Bit of activity recorded on the hypocrisy meter...

We are West Coast, you are Freo. SFFC, EFFC, old FFC and WA SOO are all totally separate entities to our two clubs.

Look I dont care if Freo wear the jumper of Shay Gap sharks. It is a Club jumper being worn in a Club competition.
Wearing a State representative strip in Club game is about as wrong as it can get.

Mabey if the Eagles had thought a bit more laterally they would have drawn a Club strip from the multitude of Clubs playing footy around our State. But no.... they go straight for a State jumper.
It really defines the arrogance of your team.

[Scotland]

Look I dont care if Freo wear the jumper of Shay Gap sharks. It is a Club jumper being worn in a Club competition.
Wearing a State representative strip in Club game is about as wrong as it can get.

Mabey if the Eagles had thought a bit more laterally they would have drawn a Club strip from the multitude of Clubs playing footy around our State. But no.... they go straight for a State jumper.
It really defines the arrogance of your team.

I disagree. Us wearing the SOO jumper is no different to us wearing an East Perth jumper, or a Wallabies jumper for that matter. Hell, the Western Force wear blue, let's wear that. :rolleyes: We are the WCE, and as such should only ever wear a WCE jumper.

How is wearing the jumper of another club thinking laterally?

Fremantle are attempting to invent a link between the history of another club that existed long before them and their own by wearing their 1970's jumper in the AFL 1970's themed round.

What would the reaction be if we wore a South/East Fremantle jumper in heritage round?

West Coast wearing a 1970's SOO jumper to acknowledge the heritage of WA football during the 1970's as a WA-based AFL club which did not exist at that time is no more 'arrogant' than Fremantle wearing the jumper of aWAFL club of the same era to acknowledge the heritage of that club.

[pistol17]

I disagree. Us wearing the SOO jumper is no different to us wearing an East Perth jumper, or a Wallabies jumper for that matter. Hell, the Western Force wear blue, let's wear that. :rolleyes: We are the WCE, and as such should only ever wear a WCE jumper.

How is wearing the jumper of another club thinking laterally?

Fremantle are attempting to invent a link between the history of another club that existed long before them and their own by wearing their 1970's jumper in the AFL 1970's themed round.

What would the reaction be if we wore a South/East Fremantle jumper in heritage round?

West Coast wearing a 1970's SOO jumper to acknowledge the heritage of WA football during the 1970's as a WA-based AFL club which did not exist at that time is no more 'arrogant' than Fremantle wearing the jumper of aWAFL club of the same era to acknowledge the heritage of that club.

Us wearing the SOO jumper is no different to us wearing an East Perth jumper, or a Wallabies jumper for that matter. Hell, the Western Force wear blue, let's wear that. :rolleyes: We are the WCE, and as such should only ever wear a WCE jumper. It is very different. All west coast players are australian as far as i know so i would have no problems with the eagles wearing a wallabies jumper. East Perth is a WAFL club and if you want to link with them then so be it. The force is the same, they are a club not a state.

Fremantle are attempting to invent a link between the history of another club that existed long before them and their own by wearing their 1970's jumper in the AFL 1970's themed round. Fremantle football club turned into East, South and North Fremantle, that is wear the link is from.

West Coast wearing a 1970's SOO jumper to acknowledge the heritage of WA football during the 1970's as a WA-based AFL club which did not exist at that time is no more 'arrogant' than Fremantle wearing the jumper of aWAFL club of the same era to acknowledge the heritage of that club. If the entire eagles side was from WA then fine, wear the WA SOO jumper but when you have Judd, Selwood, Wirrpunda from Victoria wearing our representative jersey that is where the arrogance comes in.

Disgrace IMO that they are wearing it, like i said if they were all from WA then thats fine but they are not.

[Scotland]

It is very different. All west coast players are australian as far as i know so i would have no problems with the eagles wearing a wallabies jumper. East Perth is a WAFL club and if you want to link with them then so be it. The force is the same, they are a club not a state.

Right. A national rugby jumper is more suitable than a State footy jumper. Interesting.

Fremantle football club turned into East, South and North Fremantle, that is wear the link is from.

Not the 'Fremantle Football Club' that you support. A different entity altogether.


If the entire eagles side was from WA then fine, wear the WA SOO jumper but when you have Judd, Selwood, Wirrpunda from Victoria wearing our representative jersey that is where the arrogance comes in.


Disgrace IMO that they are wearing it, like i said if they were all from WA then thats fine but they are not.

I would imagine we have more players who are from WA than you have players who have played for East Fremantle, not that West Coast has claimed to be, or have any links to, the SOO side.

[Kerr4PM]

Ah well... Lets drop all non-west aussies :)

[docker_azza]

Wait for Brad Hardie and George Grizzleguts to get started on our heritage jumper...:D

[pistol17]

[/color]

Right. A national rugby jumper is more suitable than a State footy jumper. Interesting.

[/color]

Not the 'Fremantle Football Club' that you support. A different entity altogether.




I would imagine we have more players who are from WA than you have players who have played for East Fremantle, not that West Coast has claimed to be, or have any links to, the SOO side.

Whether you have more wa players or we do is totally besides the point. The point is (if you would actually think about it instead of thinking i am having a go at the eagles) non-wa players should not wearing the WA SOO jumper regardless of what round it is.

The point on the national jumper is everyone in the side would be australian. Now not everyone in the eagles in West Australian. That is the difference.

[Roundhouse]

Wait for Brad Hardie and George Grizzleguts to get started on our heritage jumper...:D

If they get too upset the club could always offer to wear the SOO jumper intead. In fact, that may not be a bad idea. :eek:

Us and the Weags could wear the WA guernsey, all the Vic clubs could wear the big V, the SA clubs could wear thier SOO jumper, and Sydney and Brisbane could kit out half their players in big V and the other half in Allies guernseys. :thumbsu:

It might make for an interesting round. Alternatively it might make the AFL realise how ridiculous it is to allow any side to claim a SOO jumper as reflecting their heritage in the first place. :rolleyes:

[Scotland]

Whether you have more wa players or we do is totally besides the point.

Correct. In fact if you read my point it says we have more WA players than you have East Fremantle players, yet apparently it's alright for you to wear an Easts jumper?

[pistol17]

Correct. In fact if you read my point it says we have more WA players than you have East Fremantle players, yet apparently it's alright for you to wear an Easts jumper?

Who cares if you have more WA players than we have east freo players. We are adopting the jersey of a club which we have a link to but the eagles are adopting a WA jumper which should be worn by WA players only.

If freo had of come out and said they were wearing the SOO jumper i would be saying the same thing as i am now. It is the principle of the whole thing, non-wa players should not be wearing our jumper. Dont compare it to Fremantle wearing east freo cos it is not the same.

[Jamodu]

In reality, none of the above. You aren't Souths, Easts or the original FFC (regardless of how many sheep trot out the 'we are Freo footy' line), nor are we the WA S.O.O. side. We were formed as a club in 1986, you in 1994. The whole concept of the 1970's heritage round means absolutely nothing to the WA clubs. As shown by the Port fiasco, it's not designed to include any side that wasn't playing in the VFL in the 1970's, despite their existance as a club at the time. The purpose of the concept is simply a Victorian 'look at us, aren't we great' money spinning exercise.

Agree completely with most of this statement. A 1970's themed Heritage Round, a period when 4 clubs definitely did not exist, a 2 others were in a different city, different name is ridiculous. The current Fremantle Football club wear the Heritage FFC once and only once a year because the AFL "strongly encourages" clubs to participate in Heritage Round by wearing different guernsey. As FFC is not linked to any current team, from the region, they wisely chose something that represented the whole of Fremantle and as this team no longer exists, remove the risk of alienating a large chunk of supporters. Hence why I am unhappy they will be wearing something representative on one particular, current team. If the AFL had not created, purely to appease Victorian clubs, the joke that is Heritage Round, would we ever see the old FFC guernsey, I think not

[Scotland]

Who cares if you have more WA players than we have east freo players. We are adopting the jersey of a club which we claim that we have a link to but in reality don't but the eagles are adopting a WA jumper which should be worn by WA players only.

Play on. :)

[Scotland]

Agree completely with most of this statement. A 1970's themed Heritage Round, a period when 4 clubs definitely did not exist, a 2 others were in a different city, different name is ridiculous. The current Fremantle Football club wear the Heritage FFC once and only once a year because the AFL "strongly encourages" clubs to participate in Heritage Round by wearing different guernsey. As FFC is not linked to any current team, from the region, they wisely chose something that represented the whole of Fremantle and as this team no longer exists, remove the risk of alienating a large chunk of supporters. Hence why I am unhappy they will be wearing something representative on one particular, current team. If the AFL had not created, purely to appease Victorian clubs, the joke that is Heritage Round, would we ever see the old FFC guernsey, I think not

My preference would be for both clubs to either wear their standard jumper, or to make up something ridiculous (ie metallic silver with orange shorts etc.) to show the AFL how ridiculous the concept is.

[pistol17]

Play on. :)

The only part of this i am annoyed about is non-wa players wearing the jumper. I would be annoyed if Pavlich lined up in the WA SOO jumper. My point has nothing to do with west coast cos they were forced to choose a heritage jumper and as i said if they were all from wa then fine but some players are not.

Must be just me but i thought the jumper meant something...

[ImperialPurple]

Freo wearing the original FFC guernsey, or the East Freo guernsey, is not the club trying to conjure some ties which do not exist - merely they are celebrating the "heritage of Australian football in Fremantle". Full stop. End of story.

I always find it amusing that WCE supporters will argue till they are turning blue that "Freo has no connection to the Freo WAFL clubs", and whether that is true or not will be debated for a long time yet.

However, they are completely and totally missing the point. The wearing of a "heritage" guernsey from anything to do with Fremantle is merely recognising and celebrating the long and rich heritage of footy being played in Freo. Because no matter what anyone says, footy in Freo has been played since the 1880s, and to showcase on the Main Stage that footy was religion to people outide of suburban Melbourne is a good thing. A Really Good Thing.


The thing that should really irk us - and by "us" I mean all of us, is that the AFL could be so mindlessly and thoughtlessly arrogant and ignorant as to specify a period for special recognition - a decade when 3 of their 16 clubs (Freo, WCE and Adelaide) didn't even exist, and another was playing in another competition altogether (Port). Talk about exclusivity. :rolleyes:


I'm not all particularly happy that WCE have chosen the SOO guernsey, because clearly they would be representing everyone EXCEPT the Fremantle Football Club. I mean it's fair to say that they can draw their bow across every club, everywhere by saying "We are WA"... except the one club that plays in the same competition as they (ie us) are direct competitors, so therefore they clearly can't represent the FFC, even though we, too, are WA representatives in the national competition.... However, having said that, I can see why they have done it. The AFL didn't really give them a whole lot of room to move to make their choice by naming a time period before their existence... What to do??

I think it's a bad choice, but I don't actually blame them. Perhaps a better choice would have been to look at all the regional competitions and have a set of criteria - say "most premierships of any club in WA during the 70s", "most players who went onto play WAFL during the 70s", "had most players end up in the VFL"... or whatever. But whichever club best fit their criteria would have the "privilege" of having their guernsey as the "WA 70s heritage" and worn by WC...

My 2c.

[Ripper]

Good post IP.

I understood that seeing how the theme is the 1970's that Freo are paying tribute to Freo footy in the 1970's.

What better way to do that than replicate the biggest (Pre AFL), best attended (ever) game of Aussie rules footy ever played in WA between the two Fremantle sides.

The 1979 GF.

[macka6210]

guys shot me down if u will but i dont think any victorian team will ever ever ever be allowed to wear the big V . Now when i grew up only the best players in this state were allowed to wear that jumper and i think its a disgrace that the wafl or wafc would allow a single team to wear that jumper. For FFS you cant have those same aspects as a jumper if u want that one designed for ur club, competition or rep side but we will allow the seagulls to wear it . no way !!!! shows where the loyality of the governing body of football in this state lies. YOU EARN THAT JUMPER NOT GIVEN IT IN A MARKETING EXERCISE

[EasternHills]

If the Eagles were called East Perth Eagles id agree we should never touch the SOO jumper. But as the Eagles have heritage of representing WA at a national level as the States side, does the club not have the same right to a jumper they never used as another club who are using a jumper that in reality they didn’t use either.

Fremantle are not the Fremantle sides and as IP said it represents Fremantle “a geological and political area” by using the Fremantle jumpers, by West Coast using the SOO jumper are they not doing the same thing celebrating West Australia?

Celebrating a small important part, sure we get the hitch of Victorians wearing the Jumper. Perhaps that is the only Wrong part. But that’s it, technically im sure someone who has not moved on from the WAFL days might cringe at the thought of the Dockers playing in there jumper.

The Dockers fans might cringe about this part of History and fact that in some regards it still holds true today but its reality. Most wanted the Eagles to succeed in the VFL as a West Australian Club representing WA. It’s Time to bring back SOO anyway.

[Rob]

I reckon it illustrates their 'head in the sand' mentality perfectly.

They killed SoO, mostly because of their selection policies and their attitude towards their players that played it.
Now they are celebrating it with a complete ignorance of it all.

I wonder if Dalton sees the irony. Probably not.

[Roundhouse]

. But as the Eagles have heritage of representing WA at a national level as the States side, ...

No they don't.

[Billy Hunt]

beautifully put Rob.
love him or hate him, shane has hit the nail on the head again.
http://www.dockerland.com/sgio.html

[dominguez]

That's gold!

[dugrene]

If you want to have your say about something you can write to the WAFC

I have had my say. here is the link. (http://www.wafootball.com.au/contact-us/view-5.html) I sent my message to Corporate Relations.

I Wrote
Dear WAFC,
This letter is to try and describe the sickening feeling I have after finding out The West Coast Eagles will be wearing a copy of a State representative jumper in a Club game in 2007.

I have a deep affection for our State jumper and every time I see a team take the field wearing the black and gold I get a sense of pride knowing these people are representing our State.

To let the jumper be used in a Club game is reprehensible and cheapens it.
I will never again be able to look at the jumper without thinking of a Club game.
What message does this send to the young in our community who would strive to represent our State.
Please reverse this decision of using our State colours in a Club game.
Surely you could think more laterally about this. Mabey select a Club from one of our suburban or country associations that might have some sought of a record during the seventies that could be recognised by wearing a copy of their jumper.
Don’t ruin people’s memories of our great State teams.

Yours Sincerely
................

[Freo Hitman]

Look I dont care if Freo wear the jumper of Shay Gap sharks. It is a Club jumper being worn in a Club competition.
Wearing a State representative strip in Club game is about as wrong as it can get.

Mabey if the Eagles had thought a bit more laterally they would have drawn a Club strip from the multitude of Clubs playing footy around our State. But no.... they go straight for a State jumper.
It really defines the arrogance of your team.

Who cares about the eagles , couldnt care if they paraded that jumper on a float at the gay mardigras. The point of your comment I want to know about was Shay Gap Sharks ??? I am 99.9% certain Shay Gap are the Hawks . I remember as a young tacker , my beer gutted uncle used to wear a yellow TShirt with the Shay Gap Hawks . Now I dont know if it is or was a two teamed town or Shay Gap renamed themselves . I reckon , actually I assure you this shirt must be 30 years old easily !!!

[ThePope]

Pistol, just to correct you, the original Fremantle Football Club did not "split" into East, South and North Freo, it actually co-existed with East Freo for a couple of years, but it's demise did co-incide with South Freo's creation.

Spend half an hour or so reading the extremely informative www.fullpointsfooty.net for the details.

"After serving a successful apprenticeship in Western Australian football's 2nd tier competition, the 1st Rate Junior Association, North Fremantle was admitted to the elite tier, the Western Australian Football Association, in 1901"
"Fremantle which, in 1883, had been the main instigator of a move to alter the allegiance of Western Australian football clubs from rugby to Victorian Rules, was a founder member two years later of the Western Australian Football Association. Within another two years it was defunct"
"Admitted to the Western Australian Football Association in 1886, Unions gave the port city of Fremantle two representatives in the competition. When the second of those representatives, the Fremantle Football Club, went into mothballs at the end of the 1886 season, Unions acquired a large number of players from its erstwhile rival, and immediately sprang into prominence. Indeed, for the next decade, Unions enjoyed unprecedented success, both under its original name, which it bore until 1889, and under the new name of Fremantle which it subsequently adopted "because of the district" (see footnote 1).
...
At the 1899 season's end, with debts mounting up, the club hierarchy saw no option but to pull the plug, bringing the reign of the most consistently successful team in Western Australian football history to a peremptory and, one is forced to suggest, premature end.

If any club can claim to have, in some small measure, perpetuated the traditions of the second club to bear the name of Fremantle it would have to be South Fremantle. Formed in 1900, and admitted to the WAFA senior competition the same year, the red and whites not only adopted identical colours to their extinct predecessor, they also inherited a large proportion of its playing list."
East Freo entered the league in 1898, the year after Imperials disbanded

But, back on topic... yep, we have no official link to any past Freo team, but we have a STRONG link to the town of Fremantle, and by not too much of a stretch, to the football teams that have previously represented it. As a South fan I'd probably prefer some form of composite jumper, but I can live with it this year, given the 70s theme and our opponents on the day.

So by the same angle, WC can claim a strong claim to the state (or at least the few metres of coastline!) so want to show a link to its past teams.

Considering how they helped destroy SOO footy, however, I think it's a fair bit of cheek requesting it. But at the end of the day, it's only a jumper. And the black duck on the gold is the better state jumper than the stripe, anyway.

[Freo Hitman]

Pistol, just to correct you, the original Fremantle Football Club did not "split" into East, South and North Freo, it actually co-existed with East Freo for a couple of years, but it's demise did co-incide with South Freo's creation.

Spend half an hour or so reading the extremely informative www.fullpointsfooty.net for the details.

"After serving a successful apprenticeship in Western Australian football's 2nd tier competition, the 1st Rate Junior Association, North Fremantle was admitted to the elite tier, the Western Australian Football Association, in 1901"
"Fremantle which, in 1883, had been the main instigator of a move to alter the allegiance of Western Australian football clubs from rugby to Victorian Rules, was a founder member two years later of the Western Australian Football Association. Within another two years it was defunct"
"Admitted to the Western Australian Football Association in 1886, Unions gave the port city of Fremantle two representatives in the competition. When the second of those representatives, the Fremantle Football Club, went into mothballs at the end of the 1886 season, Unions acquired a large number of players from its erstwhile rival, and immediately sprang into prominence. Indeed, for the next decade, Unions enjoyed unprecedented success, both under its original name, which it bore until 1889, and under the new name of Fremantle which it subsequently adopted "because of the district" (see footnote 1).
...
At the 1899 season's end, with debts mounting up, the club hierarchy saw no option but to pull the plug, bringing the reign of the most consistently successful team in Western Australian football history to a peremptory and, one is forced to suggest, premature end.

If any club can claim to have, in some small measure, perpetuated the traditions of the second club to bear the name of Fremantle it would have to be South Fremantle. Formed in 1900, and admitted to the WAFA senior competition the same year, the red and whites not only adopted identical colours to their extinct predecessor, they also inherited a large proportion of its playing list."
East Freo entered the league in 1898, the year after Imperials disbanded

But, back on topic... yep, we have no official link to any past Freo team, but we have a STRONG link to the town of Fremantle, and by not too much of a stretch, to the football teams that have previously represented it. As a South fan I'd probably prefer some form of composite jumper, but I can live with it this year, given the 70s theme and our opponents on the day.

So by the same angle, WC can claim a strong claim to the state (or at least the few metres of coastline!) so want to show a link to its past teams.

Considering how they helped destroy SOO footy, however, I think it's a fair bit of cheek requesting it. But at the end of the day, it's only a jumper. And the black duck on the gold is the better state jumper than the stripe, anyway.

Even though I really dont care about the state jumper we have to remember that the West Coast Eagles are in Fact the WAFC golden child so it is appropriate that they hand the scum club its prized jumper . Its only then they realise how much they have cheapened the geurnsey when on that fateful day in round 14 when Brissy rock up into town. What are Brissy gonna wear . Something from the Bears heyday ??? If they did what a joke to the state jumper . Will they wear something Fitzroy could afford to wear back in the day ??? still not worthy of a state jumper , Its unlikely that they will wear an allies jumper.
The only jumper worth pulling the state jumper out for is against the Big V which no victorian club would go near or a South Aussie jumper . & even then the state jumper has a swan on it in some form or another , where does the eagle come into it ??? Mybe the Eagles just wanna be like the Swans - Drug Free

[dugrene]

Who cares about the eagles , couldnt care if they paraded that jumper on a float at the gay mardigras. The point of your comment I want to know about was Shay Gap Sharks ??? I am 99.9% certain Shay Gap are the Hawks . I remember as a young tacker , my beer gutted uncle used to wear a yellow TShirt with the Shay Gap Hawks . Now I dont know if it is or was a two teamed town or Shay Gap renamed themselves . I reckon , actually I assure you this shirt must be 30 years old easily !!!

lol.
Yeah I played against them. Only one team in the Town.

5 hour bus trip oneway including p!ss stops. Played on Sunday arvo's stayed for presentations, barbque etc usually got back about midnight. Our whole team (on a bus) got escorted by the cops to Headland limits one time after getting a little bit obnoxious at the 24 hour.

It was actually Dampier that was the Sharks. Played on windy hill.

Shay Gap was just for illustrative purpose.

[Scotland]

Some good recent posts, particularly IP and dugrene.

If the logic for Fremantle wearing an EFFC jumper is to acknowledge 'Freo footy' in the 1970's (rather than claiming association to EFFC), then the logic for West Coast wearing a WA jumper could just as easily be seen as to acknowledge WA footy in the 1970's (rather than claiming an association to the WA SOO side).

That being said, it's not our jumper and I'd rather we not wear it. One of our post 1970's jumpers will do fine. That or wear something made up, or a 100% yellow jumper for cancer fundraising etc.

[pistol17]

Pistol, just to correct you, the original Fremantle Football Club did not "split" into East, South and North Freo, it actually co-existed with East Freo for a couple of years, but it's demise did co-incide with South Freo's creation.

Spend half an hour or so reading the extremely informative www.fullpointsfooty.net (http://www.fullpointsfooty.net) for the details.

"After serving a successful apprenticeship in Western Australian football's 2nd tier competition, the 1st Rate Junior Association, North Fremantle was admitted to the elite tier, the Western Australian Football Association, in 1901"
"Fremantle which, in 1883, had been the main instigator of a move to alter the allegiance of Western Australian football clubs from rugby to Victorian Rules, was a founder member two years later of the Western Australian Football Association. Within another two years it was defunct"
"Admitted to the Western Australian Football Association in 1886, Unions gave the port city of Fremantle two representatives in the competition. When the second of those representatives, the Fremantle Football Club, went into mothballs at the end of the 1886 season, Unions acquired a large number of players from its erstwhile rival, and immediately sprang into prominence. Indeed, for the next decade, Unions enjoyed unprecedented success, both under its original name, which it bore until 1889, and under the new name of Fremantle which it subsequently adopted "because of the district" (see footnote 1).
...
At the 1899 season's end, with debts mounting up, the club hierarchy saw no option but to pull the plug, bringing the reign of the most consistently successful team in Western Australian football history to a peremptory and, one is forced to suggest, premature end.

If any club can claim to have, in some small measure, perpetuated the traditions of the second club to bear the name of Fremantle it would have to be South Fremantle. Formed in 1900, and admitted to the WAFA senior competition the same year, the red and whites not only adopted identical colours to their extinct predecessor, they also inherited a large proportion of its playing list."
East Freo entered the league in 1898, the year after Imperials disbanded

But, back on topic... yep, we have no official link to any past Freo team, but we have a STRONG link to the town of Fremantle, and by not too much of a stretch, to the football teams that have previously represented it. As a South fan I'd probably prefer some form of composite jumper, but I can live with it this year, given the 70s theme and our opponents on the day.

So by the same angle, WC can claim a strong claim to the state (or at least the few metres of coastline!) so want to show a link to its past teams.

Considering how they helped destroy SOO footy, however, I think it's a fair bit of cheek requesting it. But at the end of the day, it's only a jumper. And the black duck on the gold is the better state jumper than the stripe, anyway.

Thanks mate ill have a read, i was told by someone else on here it was south, east and north but guess i was misinformed. My whole arguement for the heritage jumper has been taken well beyond what i was saying tho (not by you). It was the fact of non-wa players wearing our jumper. I can only imagine what would happen if a victorian team wore the Big V.