View Full Version : The Ruckmen - So who is out of contract
brown_2000au
11 May 2007, 13:15
I think we all know it is our priority at season end to obtain a ruckman from a rival club, so who should/can we target.
As far as i know and correct me if i am wrong but players out of contract are
Charman - Bris
Meesen - Adel
Maric - Adel
Taylor - Hawks?
Hale - North?
Warnock - Freo?
astro_toby
11 May 2007, 13:30
I think we all know it is our priority at season end to obtain a ruckman from a rival club, so who should/can we target.
As far as i know and correct me if i am wrong but players out of contract are
Charman - Bris
Meesen - Adel
Maric - Adel
Taylor - Hawks?
Hale - North?
Warnock - Freo?
charman, maric hale, meesen - would be what we want.
i can't see any of them leaving their respective sides except for meesen though
I'd say we would have a crack at Meesen. His from down our way. Also wants to come home. King we have no idea how llong he has left. Also Ottens could break down at anytime. I think we will be looking to trade for a ruckman or either pick one up in the draft. I have no idea what we would offer to for him though.
jimmy15_
11 May 2007, 16:45
Warnock is Victorian except he is still a little raw as well
Hale would be the one if he is out of contract. He has fallen behind McIntosh now and North have a few younger ruckmen coming through as well. Would only be worth it if we had PSD bargaining power though.
big bruno
11 May 2007, 17:39
Why wouldn't we stick with Simmo, Knoble, Pattison??
Can't Hall ruck as well??? I'd be worry about getting a specialised on baller..
jimmy15_
11 May 2007, 19:30
Why wouldn't we stick with Simmo, Knoble, Pattison??
Can't Hall ruck as well??? I'd be worry about getting a specialised on baller..
Because we would never win a premiership with either Hall or Knobel in the team
corporal
12 May 2007, 03:42
This is a great time for Greg Miller to step up and go get the club a quality ruckman, we will be in the best position at draft time and we should have plenty of salary cap room.
I think we all know it is our priority at season end to obtain a ruckman from a rival club, so who should/can we target.
As far as i know and correct me if i am wrong but players out of contract are
Charman - Bris
Meesen - Adel
Maric - Adel
Taylor - Hawks?
Hale - North?
Warnock - Freo?
Charman would be the best bet, he is still only 24yo so we could get a good 8 or so years out of him, and Brisbane now have Cam Wood, Beau McDonald and the supposedly fantastic Luenbeurger, so maybe we could either get Charman through the PSD or a good trade for us.
Supertiger
12 May 2007, 06:45
Mark Seaby from WCE is out of contract and has put his contract negotiations on hold till the end of the year.
tiger of old
12 May 2007, 10:31
Mark Seaby from WCE is out of contract and has put his contract negotiations on hold till the end of the year.Krakour & Petrified for Seaby would be nice.
What about C.Wood. Bris
We DONT want anyone with the initials C Wood at Tigerland :(
Seaby would be a great get IMO.
Please not Charman, the bloke is always getting suspended/injured.
TheBrownDog
12 May 2007, 12:06
Your chances of getting Charman at all are slim to nil, let alone just expecting him to walk to you for nothing in the PSD.
Try and keep your grip on reality guys.
Your chances of getting Charman at all are slim to nil, let alone just expecting him to walk to you for nothing in the PSD.
Try and keep your grip on reality guys.
He wouldnt come to us for nothing, players entering the PSD can name there price, it would be Brisbane who would be morons to not let him go for a draft pick or a player.
nineteen eighty
13 May 2007, 09:31
If we start throwing around the dollars for a quick fix there is nothing surer than my membership not being renewed. I'm sick of of the Tige's going to market paying over the dollars for mediocre players. They're paying average / good players star rates by doing this. All we end up with is overpaid average / good players. And hence, our list is where it is.
Leave it alone and look at developing a list. Get the friggin recruitment department properly organised (which I hope has already occurred) and go out and select the right players. And FFS, select someone who can go in and get the ball. No more boundary riders please. Geez we're missing Coughlan!
I'd like to throw up another name and see what people think:
Barry Brooks
Been in the system quite a while now, drafted in 2001. Only played 9 games but and has been perhaps a bit underutilised at St. Kilda. As a result, he could perhaps come a bit cheaper in a trade. Depends I guess on St. Kilda's ruck future with Clark and Gardner aging. Still seems to be behind plenty of others at the Saints.
Played the final H&A game last season and kicked 3 up forward so may be useful resting up there as well.
Anyone got any thoughts?
brown_2000au
13 May 2007, 15:39
Brooks is not and should not be a target for us!!! He has only played 9 games for a reason. You mentioned that he could be handy as a forward, firstly i don't think this is the case and secondly this should not come into consideration. We selected Pattison as a player who could fill a ruck and/or KP forward spot, but he hass deficiencies in both positions (i.e. height for a ruck spot and speed for CHF/HFF). What we realy need is a true ruckman. A bloke who is 200+ cm and a solid tap ruckman, so that we can give our fast mids first use of the ball. I think if we are looking for an alrounder Kruezer should be the target in the draft.
Well Brooks is 198 which is tall enough, and as I said one of the contributing reasons he wouldn't have played many matches is being under Grant Thomas.
Be interesting to see what any of the guys who go and watch Coburg today say about him, he's been mentioned a lot in the radio coverage so far.
What we're looking for is a player that will be reasonably cheap to pick up in a trade or PSD, but can play straight away. They will be a backup to Simmonds while we develop Pattison and any others we draft.
If we start throwing around the dollars for a quick fix there is nothing surer than my membership not being renewed. I'm sick of of the Tige's going to market paying over the dollars for mediocre players. They're paying average / good players star rates by doing this. All we end up with is overpaid average / good players. And hence, our list is where it is.
Leave it alone and look at developing a list. Get the friggin recruitment department properly organised (which I hope has already occurred) and go out and select the right players. And FFS, select someone who can go in and get the ball. No more boundary riders please. Geez we're missing Coughlan!
OK, first of all, Jaime Charman is a very good player, strong bodied, tough and a ruckman in the mould of the modern ruckman that of which getting possies and hitouts to advantage, also he is only 24yo therefore would not be a quick fix for a couple of years as with others in the past ie: Leon Cameron, Justin Blumfield etc.
Charman would be a great pickup and would give so many more players the freedom to play in other positions that being Simmo in the forward line and also Polak down back.
Well Brooks is 198 which is tall enough, and as I said one of the contributing reasons he wouldn't have played many matches is being under Grant Thomas.
Be interesting to see what any of the guys who go and watch Coburg today say about him, he's been mentioned a lot in the radio coverage so far.
Brooks is interesting. Casey play mostly him mostly af FF with Luke Van Rheenan in the ruck.
Brooks can't have too many fans at the Saints if they bring in Gardiner and Clarke and keep selecting Rix and Blake. Be interesting to see what they do - in a perfect world they'd probably dump all 5.
Warwick
14 May 2007, 20:50
He wouldnt come to us for nothing, players entering the PSD can name there price, it would be Brisbane who would be morons to not let him go for a draft pick or a player.
You seem to be under the impression Richmond hold the upper hand. :confused:
Let's be honest - Charman will be a Lion in 2008.
You seem to be under the impression Richmond hold the upper hand. :confused:
If he decides to accept our offer, and we have pick 1 in the PSD we don't have to deal with Brisbane at all. Don't have to compensate them, or organise a trade.
Let's be honest - Charman will be a Lion in 2008.
Probably but you will be paying more for him which is a small victory for us at least. Forcing other clubs to pay over-the-odds for guys can only help us.
KB talked up the value of picking up Stephen King to no end on Sunday as a good option for Richmond.
I shuddered.
polakthetiger
14 May 2007, 21:09
You seem to be under the impression Richmond hold the upper hand. :confused:
Let's be honest - Charman will be a Lion in 2008.
Let's be realistic....you have one too many Rucks...so who is going to leave?
santa claws
14 May 2007, 21:57
Why wouldn't we stick with Simmo, Knoble, Pattison??
Can't Hall ruck as well??? I'd be worry about getting a specialised on baller..hhaaarrrggghhh hhhhaaarrrggghhh hhhaaarrrggghhh. the question is why would we. in all seriousness you cant sit there and imply pattison is a ruckman or knobel is a long term solution with his deficiencies. jeezus when are we going to start rating our players as they should be. unf&^%^^ing believable.i hope your not suggesting we dont need a quality young ruckman or 2 ot that ray hall is a ruckman sheesh.