View Full Version : Danny Meyer's Dad
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 10:15
I was talking to a mate of mine last night who works as an electrician here in adelaide, hes a crows fan but i trust what he says to be true.
he reckons he bumped into danny meyers dad at work yesterday and had a bit of a chat to him. apparently danny is very dissatisfied at richmond and 'cant wait until the end of the year' so that he can shop himself around to other clubs (being out of contract he has no intention of re-signing with the tigers). he also said that when the tigers gave the job to terry wallace it was because of his media nous and they saw him as a means to get the club out of debt and that he has no idea when it comes to team structure and that sort of thing.
now i am not saying that these things are definitely true, just that this is what was relayed to me second hand from the dad of a dissatisfied player's point of view. interesting is all.
Wouldn't be surprised.
Meyer never looks happy, even when we first drafted him, he looked disapointed.
The stuff about Wallace is probably true as well and I remember hearing Gary March saying he has told Terry to stop focusing on the media and just coach, Terry is a good coach, I just think that his first priority has been with the media.
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 10:25
one other thing is he said that the club would have gone for eade if not for the media thing and the ability to 'sell' the club.
The BRICKSTER
12 May 2007, 10:27
i hope it is true, i am sick of this kid, pick 12 and again another good pick up by the richmond footy club. We pretty much lost ottens for nothing, cause meyer is no better than pick 80. Pattison i still have many ??? over, not tall enough for a ruckman but not mobile enough for a CHF, and can people stop saying that he is a CHF, he may be a good CHF in the vfl, but he will never make it as a CHF in the afl. Should have taken Wood who is a ruckman and was a richmond supporter growing up as a kid. On that point that is exactly what richmond need more of. Players that supported richmond as kids, that will actually play with some pride and passion for the jumper they are wearing.
The BRICKSTER
12 May 2007, 10:35
so Meyer for Messen make it happen, if the prick stooges us and goes in the PSD Meesen better do the same thing
i hope he wants out too... he doesnt want to play for the tigers.. if anyone has seen coburg games might feel the same way... anyone who dont want to play for the yellow and black piss off!!!
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 10:40
the thing i find disapointing is that if one young player is disatisfied with the coach then i wonder how many of the others are, when we look at last weeks performance. i dont know if i conveyed that in my original post but from what the guy said it sounded like terry was a big part of the problem with dannys attitude.
Bojangles17
12 May 2007, 10:58
I was talking to a mate of mine last night who works as an electrician here in adelaide, hes a crows fan but i trust what he says to be true.
he reckons he bumped into danny meyers dad at work yesterday and had a bit of a chat to him. apparently danny is very dissatisfied at richmond and 'cant wait until the end of the year' so that he can shop himself around to other clubs (being out of contract he has no intention of re-signing with the tigers). he also said that when the tigers gave the job to terry wallace it was because of his media nous and they saw him as a means to get the club out of debt and that he has no idea when it comes to team structure and that sort of thing.
now i am not saying that these things are definitely true, just that this is what was relayed to me second hand from the dad of a dissatisfied player's point of view. interesting is all.
and we are accepting the opinion of an electrician who's son couldn't get a kick in a stampede
sometimes u just gotta cut your losses... with this attitude if true, he has no chance of turning it around at the tigers. Says abit abt his character too. If he was hungry and motivated hed have done something about his skinny frame , as it is it looks as though he cant be ar.sed getting into the gym and putting on some size. Bugger him, glad he was dropped then... but still id rather someone else was brought in instead of krak ffs
whta the hell would he know about Wallace lacking in team structures etc? Hes just being a petulant little f.u(k
the thing i find disapointing is that if one young player is disatisfied with the coach then i wonder how many of the others are, when we look at last weeks performance. i dont know if i conveyed that in my original post but from what the guy said it sounded like terry was a big part of the problem with dannys attitude.
you always have some players dissatisfied with the coach, happens at every club, sometimes you just dont click with a certain coach, no chemistry oir whatever you want to call it. I have seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest the young guys arent happy with Wallace, on the contrary i think its obvious they really try to play for him... the senior core )richo excepted) well thats another issue....
so Meyer for Messen make it happen, if the prick stooges us and goes in the PSD Meesen better do the same thing
Remember Meesen won't be going anywhere unless he asks to be traded.
What you're seeing from Hamish McIntosh at the moment, is what you'll be seeing from the Meese in 2 years.
krustyman
12 May 2007, 11:10
Most kid wouldnt risk tanking it in the hope that they will somehow be picked up by another club. the only thing of interest would be his high draft pick.
the thing i find disapointing is that if one young player is disatisfied with the coach then i wonder how many of the others are, when we look at last weeks performance. i dont know if i conveyed that in my original post but from what the guy said it sounded like terry was a big part of the problem with dannys attitude.
Wouldn`t listen to much to his criticism Darth ... just an excuse to get out IMHO ... Not like it`s based on his wide football knowledge .
Will say this though .... i don`t care what anyone says .... last weeks performance wreaks of something wrong at the club other than our list
silence ofthe Robert
12 May 2007, 11:44
Wouldn`t listen to much to his criticism Darth ... just an excuse to get out IMHO ... Not like it`s based on his wide football knowledge .
Will say this though .... i don`t care what anyone says .... last weeks performance wreaks of something wrong at the club other than our list
I like it how Danny is hanged for a comment he most likely hasn't said. Meyer is a rare talent and will play very good footy - hopefully at the tiges. If he goes it will another monumental stuff up by RFC.
polakthetiger
12 May 2007, 12:03
seems obvious....let the kid go home....or rather tell him the best way is to play well for the rest of this year so we can make sure he can go where he wants...make it a win-win....tell him we will play him ...if he shows some, Port or Crows will be after him...but move him on!
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 12:21
look, lets get one thing straight. i never said that these comments are correct. i simply conveyed something that was said to me. you are getting fouth hand info here, so take it as you will. i just think its a worry.
1980GFVideo
12 May 2007, 12:38
Good thread Darth
We all hear things and somethimes they are true, you can only convey them.
Its a good topic as Im sure a number of young players are wondering about the place. Its what worries me and is the price that clubs must pay when they are not performing. Its a topic because we have to pay over the price for the second contract often.
Terry wasnt popular with all Bulldogs durring his time. Could be that he told Meyer to pull his finger out. Might be another Dad thinking his son should be getting more senior play. I often think to his credit he uses all after match press conferences alot better than other coaches. Rather than sulk during them he tends to make his headlines there.
Drunken Wookie
12 May 2007, 13:03
So what you're saying here is that Meyer allegedly told his father that the Richmond board selected Wallace purely for his media skills, suspecting he was incompotent when it comes to team structure etc.
My question would be, who is feeding the playing group this kind of negative information, unless that's just Meyer's bitter opinion. If the whole playing group doesn't have any respect for Terry as a football coach that'd go some way to explaining our 157 point loss...
astro_toby
12 May 2007, 13:10
the thing i find disapointing is that if one young player is disatisfied with the coach then i wonder how many of the others are, when we look at last weeks performance. i dont know if i conveyed that in my original post but from what the guy said it sounded like terry was a big part of the problem with dannys attitude.
wallace when he left the dogs was not having a good relationship with the young players - didn't give them the tim of day - he left Rhode to look after them (thats why rhode wa appointed coach - he had their respect )
I'm pretty worried at several of the young players attitudes, and morale. And it starting to seem as if he is losing the senior group now, with his handling of Kellaway and Gaspar. Starting to wonder if Terry will last - hope so, don't kow if i can deal with another coach coming in and starting HE'S plan from scratch
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 13:10
yep drunken, that pretty much sums it up. i am only the messenger. thought it was interesting and worth passing along.
Drunken Wookie
12 May 2007, 13:15
I think we all appreciate any inside stories like this, lord knows we won't be getting this type of stark honesty from the club.
Brooksy88
12 May 2007, 13:20
I think we all appreciate any inside stories like this, lord knows we won't be getting this type of stark honesty from the club.
of course we wouldn't, nor would we want to. if other clubs knew of meyers desire to leave to the extent where he had no intention of staying at richmond no matter what, his trade value wld b worth zilch. let at least try and get a 3rd or 4th rounder for him.. can't believe people are suggesting the crows wld give us meesen for him. ruckmen will be SOOOO over priced this offseason and danny wont even be worth meesens bootlace.
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 13:23
exactly, he has done nothing but show a few glimpses. i find it funny if true that he just thinks that clubs will be knocking down the door for his signature.
astro_toby
12 May 2007, 14:00
of course we wouldn't, nor would we want to. if other clubs knew of meyers desire to leave to the extent where he had no intention of staying at richmond no matter what, his trade value wld b worth zilch. let at least try and get a 3rd or 4th rounder for him.. can't believe people are suggesting the crows wld give us meesen for him. ruckmen will be SOOOO over priced this offseason and danny wont even be worth meesens bootlace.
the fact he was a pick 12 only e years ago will still give him some currency, especially to an adelaide side - who will be confident of getting the most out of him
Remember - we got simmonds for fiora - so people still do rate an early pick.
we may swindle a meyer for meesen if meesen wants to leave to go home (similar to simmo )and we have the first PSD selection - it will of course cost us money in the cap, as we will have to pay him extra to make him make such a commitment.
maybe meyer and a third rounder will make it happen? if meesen does want to leave, don't underrate how much that will sap from his value also
If this is true...then get lost Danny. Seriously, im sick of trading these sooks...if you dont wanna bleed for the RFC then get lost....you have shown nothing as it is...so good luck back in the city of churches....if you get picked up.....fool
David_Brent
12 May 2007, 14:42
He was a sooky little private school boy when you drafted him. And still hasnt grown up.
Watch him get gifted the last 5 games of the year to increase his currency on the market.
polakthetiger
12 May 2007, 14:49
Watch him get gifted the last 5 games of the year to increase his currency on the market.
'gifted'??? makes business sense ....so 'pushed in' with orders 'put in' to increase his currency on the market!
dyertribe
12 May 2007, 14:51
so Meyer for Messen make it happen, if the prick stooges us and goes in the PSD Meesen better do the same thing
Meyer won't be going in the PSD unless there's zero interest from either us or Port which of course is highly unlikely.
If he's homesick and all the rest of it, why would he risk ending up at the Dees or Carlton for another 2 years of his life?
What you're seeing from Hamish McIntosh at the moment, is what you'll be seeing from the Meese in 2 years.
Jeez you reckon?
There's no doubt North have found one in HaMac.
Meanwhile Meesen is just another kid who was taken with a high pick but has shown nothing - yet to even make his debut in what is his third season on the list, remember.
polakthetiger
12 May 2007, 15:23
Meyer won't be going in the PSD unless there's zero interest from either us or Port which of course is highly unlikely.
If he's homesick and all the rest of it, why would he risk ending up at the Dees or Carlton for another 2 years of his life?
Jeez you reckon?
There's no doubt North have found one in HaMac.
Meanwhile Meesen is just another kid who was taken with a high pick but has shown nothing - yet to even make his debut in what is his third season on the list, remember.
Alright...we'll take Chad off your hands then;)
Realistic Tiger
12 May 2007, 15:37
Have not read the whole thread but if Danny was getting regular games because he was performing to his potential would his old man have any sort of criticism to level. Fair enough some might be warranted but it works both ways. The kid puts in on the track he gets the rewards, the kid wants to think it will be handed to him others with more desire will pass him by.
Simply put you only get out what you put in and it seems he just ain't putting in what is required.
GUN-BARREL STRAIGHT
12 May 2007, 15:47
you always have some players dissatisfied with the coach, happens at every club, sometimes you just dont click with a certain coach, no chemistry oir whatever you want to call it. I have seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest the young guys arent happy with Wallace, on the contrary i think its obvious they really try to play for him... the senior core )richo excepted) well thats another issue....
Yeah, even Caro - who never shirks an opportunity for putting a boot into the club - has conceded that the players really like and respect Terry. Their only complaint is that they don't get enough time with him. Perhaps that is likely to change now?
kainokaino
12 May 2007, 16:43
I was talking to a mate of mine last night who works as an electrician here in adelaide, hes a crows fan but i trust what he says to be true.
he reckons he bumped into danny meyers dad at work yesterday and had a bit of a chat to him. apparently danny is very dissatisfied at richmond and 'cant wait until the end of the year' so that he can shop himself around to other clubs (being out of contract he has no intention of re-signing with the tigers). he also said that when the tigers gave the job to terry wallace it was because of his media nous and they saw him as a means to get the club out of debt and that he has no idea when it comes to team structure and that sort of thing.
now i am not saying that these things are definitely true, just that this is what was relayed to me second hand from the dad of a dissatisfied player's point of view. interesting is all.
LOAD OF BULLSHIT
davey_23
12 May 2007, 17:56
Wait so Danny and his Father are both dissatisfied at Richmond and Wallace yet Danny's father spends alot of his time as a volunteer scout in Adelaide for the club. Sure. :rolleyes:
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 18:40
you two can think i am full of it if you want to. hey its a free country. i never said it was true. i am just relaying to you that this is what a mate of mine said and that i trust him that he would not mislead me. believe it or not it makes no difference to me either way.
Calcium Man
12 May 2007, 18:44
I really hope it isnt true. From the intra club first match with 2004 draftees i really rated him. Im not sure what has happened to him since then but i just know he will go to another club and dominate.
Magic17
12 May 2007, 19:31
If true the selfish %&^ can **** off!
Meyer for Rodan..
Oh wait :confused:
When Meyer shops himself around and find no takers it might be the rude shock he needs. The assumption that the Adelaide clubs will want him will be false. They didn't want him on draft day and he ain't done much since.
When Meyer shops himself around and find no takers it might be the rude shock he needs. The assumption that the Adelaide clubs will want him will be false. They didn't want him on draft day and he ain't done much since.
So the story has some substance?
Well Darth, I've been around here for a year now, and you are one of the posters here that I put some semblence of credence into so I'm not disbelieving you. Having said that, perhaps the real story lies somwhere in between?
I can't help but agree with IDGAF. Last week's effort stinks, not in your traditional way, but something really sinister.
If Meyer does want out, then good riddance. We got Patto and Meyer for Ottens. At least Patto has a dip.
Magic17
12 May 2007, 20:27
Last week's effort stinks, not in your traditional way, but something really sinister.
Well the fact that Wallace dumped him(by surprise to many) lends some credence to what's going on here.
Seems like a couple want out..
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 20:35
thanks tugga. like i have said and said and said: i was told this by someone i know so you are getting my interpretation of an interpretation of something that was said by danny meyers dad. take it with a grain of salt.
CoggaRules
12 May 2007, 20:40
Wouldn`t listen to much to his criticism Darth ... just an excuse to get out IMHO ... Not like it`s based on his wide football knowledge .
Will say this though .... i don`t care what anyone says .... last weeks performance wreaks of something wrong at the club other than our list
you are not alone dude. Something just doesnt add up...dont know what,but what I am 100% set on is that there is most definetely something. ;)
Darth_Tiger
12 May 2007, 21:15
just one other thing, for the record i hope it isnt true. i rate meyer and dont want to lose him.
Bojangles17
12 May 2007, 22:45
just one other thing, for the record i hope it isnt true. i rate meyer and dont want to lose him.
i wish there was something to rate him on Darth, aprt from a couple of flukey snaps there is precious little to hang our hats on with DM.....where is salopek these days..Injured or cant get a game...just the kinda mature bod midfielder we need:thumbsu:
davey_23
12 May 2007, 22:57
i wish there was something to rate him on Darth, aprt from a couple of flukey snaps there is precious little to hang our hats on with DM.....where is salopek these days..Injured or cant get a game...just the kinda mature bod midfielder we need:thumbsu:
Salo is injured. It took him long enough to do anything and he was a top10 pick.
tigerfan22
12 May 2007, 23:43
Settle settle,why do you all enjoy bagging just about the whole squad at RFC?.Danny loves playing at RFC his girlfriend has moved over he loves living in Melbourne and has been told one more good game at Coburg and his back in the seniors.Please be patient the quiet achiever,doesnt want to let you down.By the way Meesen isnt even playing.
Porthos
12 May 2007, 23:51
Salo is injured. It took him long enough to do anything and he was a top10 pick.9 games in his first season. 11 games in his second season (our premiership year). 6 games in the third. 21 games in 2006 and 5/7 games this year. 50 games in your first five years, with as much injury as he's had, is pretty good.
Bojangles17
12 May 2007, 23:51
9 games in his first season. 11 games in his second season (our premiership year). 6 games in the third. 21 games in 2006 and 5/7 games this year. 50 games in your first five years, with as much injury as he's had, is pretty good.
would you trade him?
Porthos
13 May 2007, 01:17
Nah, and certainly not for Meyer. Was just pointing out that Sala hasn't done as badly as is made out.
Just want to say one thing about Darth Tiger ... directed to those who have not been around here all that long ...
DT is probably the most stand up bloke around these parts ... so if he says thats what he has heard then i believe it .... and i`m the biggest f..kin cynic around here
don`t try and character assasinate a bloke who you don`t know .
From someone who has been posting around here a while , pull your heads in . This is what these forums are about ... chewing the fat over scuttlebut ... if darth says it , i believe it
Spot on IDGAF. Darth has been around for some time, talk to him a fair bit and is honest as all ****.
he's provided you all with some decent info which all adds up and seems to be very close to obvious.
why shoot him down...? Because you struggle to believe it? grow up ****nuts and realise it may just be reality and not how you wish to see it. :cool:
Cheers for the info Darth:thumbsu:
DT is probably the most stand up bloke around these parts ... so if he says thats what he has heard then i believe it .... and i`m the biggest f..kin cynic around here
He may well be Gandhi - but the rumour comes from someone he talked to. Who talked to Meyer's dad, who talked to Meyer. Big game of Chinese Whispers. Fair enough to wonder about it. DT has said he has cautious about it too.
Is Meyer unhappy? Bloody well hope so. If he is content playing at Coburg he needs an attitude adjustment.
Plenty of players not getting games regularly become sooks and whingers who tell anyone who listed that they are not to blame. There is a conspiracy agaisnt them. There are always plenty of back-slappers around who are prepared to stroke their ego ... tell them what they want to hear. Tough - doesn't mean they are in the right.
Some elements of this rumour are just bitching. Meyer has told his dad that Wallace was just appointed for media-spin and Eade was preferred? Meyer has sat in on board meetings has he? Miller, March, Wright and Casey have taken him into their confidence have they? Sat him down and undermined the coach? That is just one guys opinion. Meyer's or his dads - but has no more value than any of ours.
Its over to Meyer. PLAY GOOD FOOTY.
And the idea that clubs will be lining up for him is going to be a rude shock to the kid if it is true he wants to leave. A rookie-listing maybe. The Adelaide clubs known full well that he has never gotten his hands on the ball. He is a luxury HFF who can finish in a team that is already good. Adelaide don't carry guys like that and do you see Port really enthusiastic about another Dan Motlop?
Magic17
13 May 2007, 17:13
Its over to Meyer. PLAY GOOD FOOTY.
The Adelaide clubs known full well that he has never gotten his hands on the ball. He is a luxury HFF who can finish in a team that is already good. Adelaide don't carry guys like that and do you see Port really enthusiastic about another Dan Motlop?
This is the single biggest issue I have always had with Meyer.
May have great skills but doesn't get anywhere near enough of it.
Unless the guy looks like he's going to be the next Daicos or even Blake Caracella then at dp 12 he was an absolute waste and currently he barely looks like he's even going to be a servicable HFF.:thumbsd:
He may well be Gandhi - but the rumour comes from someone he talked to. Who talked to Meyer's dad, who talked to Meyer. Big game of Chinese Whispers. Fair enough to wonder about it. DT has said he has cautious about it too.
You may have misunderstood me Weaver ... not defending the quality of the rumour ...merely the bloke who is repeating it
Darth_Tiger
14 May 2007, 11:18
You may have misunderstood me Weaver ... not defending the quality of the rumour ...merely the bloke who is repeating it
thanks idgaf and tambo :thumbsu:. think i am gonna cry :D sniff sniff. and as weaver said it is third or even fourth hand info, the guy i heard it from wasn't even all that clear on how meyers dad came about his opinion that the club would have opted for eade but for ploughs media spinning ability. just passing on some info passed on to me. might be true might be crap make up your own mind or dont even make it up at all it make little difference to me.
Coughlan
14 May 2007, 11:26
He's old man sounds like sounds like a bit of a w@nker if he really said that, he would obviously be making it up because he's kid isn't getting a game, why would danny meyer know, he wasn't even at the club when Wallace was drafted.
Bit of a Damir Cloke even
emperor
14 May 2007, 12:11
Bit of a Damir Cloke even
and we thought we'd avoided getting a damir:cool:
If it is true why do we all care? I had massive wraps on the kid last year and pre-season but he's had about 3 good games in his 3 year career. What the Richmond FC need to start doing is evaluating their picks after 3-4 years and MOVE THEM ON if they aren't progressing. At least this way we'll get something for him.
Any wonder why our senior list is so incompetent. A player like Tivendale should have been gone a long time ago when he was actually worth something. Now we have a senior lemon who we're constantly crying about.
It's all about list management a facet at Richmond that has improved but still needs work on. These are the tough decisions that need to be made that make a better club. Persisting with no-hopers who become senior duds will get us nowhere.
Calcium Man
14 May 2007, 14:12
If it is true why do we all care? I had massive wraps on the kid last year and pre-season but he's had about 3 good games in his 3 year career. What the Richmond FC need to start doing is evaluating their picks after 3-4 years and MOVE THEM ON if they aren't progressing. At least this way we'll get something for him.
Thats just a waste of money. You spend 100k developing a kid only to move him before he has any real chance to show you anything. You then send them off to a club for very little, because they wont be worth much, who then get the benefit of your development. The only time a kid should be moved on before their 6th season is if they want to go home.
What richmond really needs is to invest more money in recruiting and development.