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jockey-sized midfielder

12 May 2007, 19:02

Samuri Pizza Cat

12 May 2007, 19:04

not bad

I Rock

12 May 2007, 19:05

The problem is, like with alot of players on the list. That they need to be able to do it every week not just when they get a rocket up them.

SkiddyMcGhee

12 May 2007, 19:19

Serviceable I think is the right word!

Needed to kicka few more goals

rfctigerarmy

12 May 2007, 19:30

He was pretty good. Faded in and out of the match though.

Catsace

12 May 2007, 19:51

I rate Pettifer highly after his game against Geelong last season. I had always though of him as just another flanker-type, but he kicked 4 goals against us at Skilled, and he followed up with many similar efforts. Today he looked more like that player. You'd have to be pleased with Delidio also, he was lively and really put in. Port had too many P.Burgoyne/Pearce/N.Krakouer/Motlop types that always snuck in to kick the goals, plus Lade also. No Simmonds, who was a star last year kills as far as not getting first use of the ball.

Rayzorwire

12 May 2007, 22:54

Passable today - not the six games before.

Bit of an 'icing on the cake' player who should become more consistent as the team itself does. Needs plenty of opportunities because he's proven to be not that great at making his own luck, or becoming the kind of HFF who can be genuinely influential on the wing.

CoggaRules

12 May 2007, 22:57

ICE PICK

12 May 2007, 23:40

you dont have to be a super visionary to find one dimensional players.;)

He got best on ground round 1

CoggaRules

12 May 2007, 23:46

He got best on ground round 1

yep....and johnson won the the B&F last year. I rest my case. ;)

Rayzorwire

12 May 2007, 23:52

He got best on ground round 1

Well picked up, I forgot he was good rd.1 - it seems a long time ago! ;)

Bojangles17

12 May 2007, 23:54

Well picked up, I forgot he was good rd.1 - it seems a long time ago! ;)

you bet it was:rolleyes:

Bojangles17

12 May 2007, 23:56

INo Simmonds, who was a star last year kills as far as not getting first use of the ball.

it's the 15-20 possies & 6 -7 marks we lose out that really hurt in his absence...this is a year from HELLLLLL:eek:

benny_furs

13 May 2007, 14:21

Passable today - not the six games before.

4 goals in round 1 not passable?

Rayzorwire

14 May 2007, 01:16

4 goals in round 1 not passable?

Already corrected that above.

benny_furs

14 May 2007, 01:24

Already corrected that above.

Ah sorry mate I pressed quote without looking ahead ;)

Must say a lot of opinions on Pettifer have very quickly turned ugly due to a patch 4-5 games where he wasn't at the level we expect from him.

He doesnt' deserve to be grouped with Tivendale, Krakouer, Hall, Knobel etc... Pettifer is soft but he has heart and puts his body in more than he would if he didn't love the club.

If you go in and you're not scared, it's not courageous. If you're shit scared but you go in anyway, then you can say you have courage.

Tigerland

14 May 2007, 08:31

After being criticised over the past few weeks for his soft performances...i think he really stood up today. Although he wasn't abnormally pysical or tough...he in my opinion played very well today, kicking snags and setting them up. Really showed some leadership out their for the first time in his career. Played a consistant game of footy

How did all of you perceive his performance today?
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Not his worst game but not enough for me.
He is playing for his career and it certainly doesn't look like it.
Missed a few set shots - and when you don't have many tricks up your sleeve like Kane you need to convert them.

Who was he playing on and how many posessions did they get?
His opponents always run off him because they know that Pettifer won't hurt them too much on the scoreboard.

krustyman

14 May 2007, 10:10

pettifer was fantastic, he contested well and showed he is one of the better players in the side.

santa claws

14 May 2007, 11:49

a weak soft squib who is defensively pathetic. the odd good game is usually enough for most ferals to overlook his short comings for months on end.

astro_toby

14 May 2007, 13:16

After being criticised over the past few weeks for his soft performances...i think he really stood up today. Although he wasn't abnormally pysical or tough...he in my opinion played very well today, kicking snags and setting them up. Really showed some leadership out their for the first time in his career. Played a consistant game of footy

How did all of you perceive his performance today?

for all pett's weakness's , i definitely see some leadership material in him - last season when we were hot, he was an extremely important part of that - he at least shows some emotion on his face - win or lose.

needs to consistenyl be that though, but i certainly think he has leadership qualities in him

Calcium Man

14 May 2007, 13:42

You guys are so hard on Pettifer. Yes i'll agree he is a bit soft when the ball is on the ground. But from watching him its more because he goes to bump the men instead of going the ball. Which means he doesnt lay a tackle or get the ball and looks stupid.

The game against Carlton he kicked 4 and was probably our best player that night. Against WB he had 19 possies and 8 marks which was more the passable. Had 19 possies and 6 marks against geelong. He was one of a limited few who tried at all. And was very good against port. Had 9 marks and 16 possies and if the goal umpire had of paid the goal that was touched over the line he would have kicked 3.2.

So he has had 4 decent to good games and 3 below average games. He isnt as bad as you all make out. He is soft tho, especially when the ball is on the deck.

Rayzorwire

15 May 2007, 01:26

Ah sorry mate I pressed quote without looking ahead ;)

Must say a lot of opinions on Pettifer have very quickly turned ugly due to a patch 4-5 games where he wasn't at the level we expect from him.

He doesnt' deserve to be grouped with Tivendale, Krakouer, Hall, Knobel etc... Pettifer is soft but he has heart and puts his body in more than he would if he didn't love the club.

If you go in and you're not scared, it's not courageous. If you're shit scared but you go in anyway, then you can say you have courage.

That's a fair comment benny.

I'll judge him at season's end...as I said, I'm sure his output will improve overall on the days we are competitive. I'd like to see him improve on working harder to win his own ball - he was getting a little better at this last year and I'd hoped for that improvement to continue on into this season.

That's the only real disappointment I have with him so far...I'd hoped that after another pre-season with a REAL fitness coach, he'd have improved on his weakest area.

benny_furs

15 May 2007, 01:29

That's the only real disappointment I have with him so far...I'd hoped that after another pre-season with a REAL fitness coach, he'd have improved on his weakest area.

I'm surprised at the general fitness of most players, especially after the super competitive "NAB Challenge".

Krakouer is another one who would be great if he had better fitness, and he hasn't improved either.

CoggaRules

15 May 2007, 01:34

That's a fair comment benny.

I'll judge him at season's end...as I said, I'm sure his output will improve overall on the days we are competitive. I'd like to see him improve on working harder to win his own ball - he was getting a little better at this last year and I'd hoped for that improvement to continue on into this season.

That's the only real disappointment I have with him so far...I'd hoped that after another pre-season with a REAL fitness coach, he'd have improved on his weakest area.

his weakest area is that is slow, not that he is unfit. Completely bereft of any explosive speed off the mark with a turning circle akin to the queen mary.
WOuld be a great HF in the 60s but nowadays if you aint got the fleet of footedness, to first get yourself into comfortable scoring positions and secondly to be able to run down the modern HBs that are predominatly the runners who create the springboard for attacks, then you can pack it all in.
Would be surprised if this guy last another year or two. Of course he can prove me wrong by getting a spriniting coach and learning how to run ****ing fast and to turn sharply. Then we might see something akin to a modern day HF.;)

santa claws

15 May 2007, 02:28

his weakest area is that is slow, not that he is unfit. Completely bereft of any explosive speed off the mark with a turning circle akin to the queen mary.
WOuld be a great HF in the 60s but nowadays if you aint got the fleet of footedness, to first get yourself into comfortable scoring positions and secondly to be able to run down the modern HBs that are predominatly the runners who create the springboard for attacks, then you can pack it all in.
Would be surprised if this guy last another year or two. Of course he can prove me wrong by getting a spriniting coach and learning how to run ****ing fast and to turn sharply. Then we might see something akin to a modern day HF.;)
here here cogga.

tiger of old

15 May 2007, 09:11

Trade bait=Ruckman

Rayzorwire

15 May 2007, 23:35

his weakest area is that is slow, not that he is unfit. Completely bereft of any explosive speed off the mark with a turning circle akin to the queen mary.

LOL...yep, good point Cogga...it is that first few steps.

He's like a tall that can't play genuinely tall - though he can take a grab.

Having been familiarised with the Brown saga - how he simply couldn't run to save himself during his first few years at the Dogs - I had hoped that with the right coaching, players like Pettifer may be able to do better than get increasingly further behind chasing others...while grimacing and shaking their head back and forth while chasing to let the crowd and coaching box know for certain they are really trying hard. ;)

Foley has significantly improved his pace...maybe the coaching technique is there...it's just only getting through to a small handfull.

CoggaRules

16 May 2007, 00:53

LOL...yep, good point Cogga...it is that first few steps.

He's like a tall that can't play genuinely tall - though he can take a grab.

Having been familiarised with the Brown saga - how he simply couldn't run to save himself during his first few years at the Dogs - I had hoped that with the right coaching, players like Pettifer may be able to do better than get increasingly further behind chasing others...while grimacing and shaking their head back and forth while chasing to let the crowd and coaching box know for certain they are really trying hard. ;)

Foley has significantly improved his pace...maybe the coaching technique is there...it's just only getting through to a small handfull.

dude, its all about which way he wants to go. If you were a proffesional footballer and you had a deficiency, wouldnt you seek out your own means to make the grade? Get yourself a sprinting coach Petrified, tie the ****ing tyers on a rope and run. You would be surprised what can happen over the of season. But alas i feel you have coasted for to long. The way you are going now, you are heading for the back paddocks of a surbuban ground.
Lets just say at this point in time, the only team that would entertain picking you up would be a demons. Daniher loves the fast players, lets face it he hand picked cement legs Holland after hand pikcing the next bg thing in the funcke squad, the committee saw they needed to lend a hand so they hand picked Davey. ;)

Crumden

16 May 2007, 01:09

You guys are so hard on Pettifer. Yes i'll agree he is a bit soft when the ball is on the ground. But from watching him its more because he goes to bump the men instead of going the ball. Which means he doesnt lay a tackle or get the ball and looks stupid.
This is a real problem he needs to work on I reckon. He should be putting his head over the ball and winning it himself instead of trying to bump opponents out of the way, especially when he usually bounces off. Otherwise I think he is judged a bit harshly by some on here. 31 goals from a flanker two years in a row is a pretty good return and he also takes it into the 50 quite a bit. But he does seem to need a boot up the bum every now and then to make sure he keeps working hard enough on the field.

CoggaRules

16 May 2007, 01:18

This is a real problem he needs to work on I reckon. He should be putting his head over the ball and winning it himself instead of trying to bump opponents out of the way, especially when he usually bounces off. Otherwise I think he is judged a bit harshly by some on here. 31 goals from a flanker two years in a row is a pretty good return and he also takes it into the 50 quite a bit. But he does seem to need a boot up the bum every now and then to make sure he keeps working hard enough on the field.

man, he works his butt off every game, dont you get it? What you get now is what you are going to get. He is at 100% of capacity. Not good enough.
Do yourself a favour, make a list of all the HFs in the league and see how many you would have in the side, before Pettifer. You can start with the dees who are 0-7 and work up from there. ;)